Post by: Jessmo26 on April 24, 2004, 11:38:14 AM
1# Fire emblem which there now doing Kudos
2# faxxanadu one of the better forgotten franchises Of Nintedno
3# Earth bound Gc really could use this
4# golden sun I want a mature and graphically impressive GS on the GC
5# retros Unfinished raven blade (would make a Nice faxxanadu remake)
6# Beg someone to make another act raiser (the ultimate snes RPG)
8# star tropics
9# FF: CC I dont mind the Kiddy games but there are already enough on the system I want a mature and techinally please FF:CC Like FF:CC meets FF 8
Gc should carve out a hard core rpg gamer Niche
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 24, 2004, 12:19:39 PM
Post by: Syl on April 24, 2004, 12:29:29 PM
Fire emblem, they have more fire emblem games than most people realize, I hope this one makes it to america.
Never played Faxxanundo, can't comment on it.
Mother 3 is currently in devolopement for the GBA.
Golden Sun is NOT a nintendo franchise, its purely owned and made by camelot. Likewise, the rumors stated an "Golden Sun" for the gamecube.
Raven Blade was an RPG? I was under the impression it was an action game.
Act Raiser is a square franchise, and a very strange one at that.
Never played a Star Tropics either, constantly hear good things about it.
FFCC, i don't really understand what you were trying to argue with this. But, Odds are square will have another cube game shown at E3, though i'm not sure what type of game it will be.
Likewise, you already forgot the RPG's that *ARE* coming out for cube later this year.
Paper Mario 2.
Baiten Kaitos: new, original Namco RPG
Tales of Symphonia: also made by namco... part of an incredibly popular franchise in japan, that never really got the acceptance over here.
Pokemon, as well, would be a great game to finally bring to the next generation, but I'm under the impression nintendo wants to keep the "pocket" aspect of the game.
Post by: Krazie26 on April 24, 2004, 12:34:29 PM
Post by: Draygaia on April 24, 2004, 04:37:51 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 24, 2004, 05:16:55 PM
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on April 24, 2004, 06:03:07 PM
Edit: Changed the abv. for Japanese so it would not be offending people sorry about that.
Post by: ThePerm on April 24, 2004, 06:06:43 PM
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on April 24, 2004, 06:24:25 PM
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Originally posted by: Jessmo26
2# faxxanadu one of the better forgotten franchises Of Nintedno
It's spelled 'Faxanadu' - I have the game and also vividly remember the related episode of Captain N.
For you guys who haven't played it, it's pretty cool. Now that damned catchy tune is stick in my head again. :S
Post by: NeonDestruction on April 24, 2004, 06:29:38 PM
Edit: Well since I now know their is only one x in the name, I found a fansite for the game. The game was made by Falcolm and published by Hudson Soft it seems (I'm not exactly sure), so Nintendo cannot dig it up from the videogame graveyard themselves.
Post by: Syl on April 24, 2004, 06:30:14 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill
Genius Sonority just finished Colosseum...Camelot will eventually reveal their Golden Sun Sequel...As for Brownie Brown and Skip LTD, who knows?
As i stated above, Camelot is *NOT* a second party, They are free to develope for anyone, even though im sure having mario character franchises is restricing that at the moment, nor do i think they want to develope for anyone.
Brownie brown just finished the remake of Seiken Dententsu (sword of mana) so, perhaps, they could be working on remaking secret of mana. Hopefully, better source material will make for a better remake. I'm also curious that magical vacation never came out here.
Skip? have they made anything at all? O_o;
...who made Giftpia?
Intelligent Systems, however, has been raking in the cash, which is a good thing.
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 24, 2004, 06:49:39 PM
And where did I say that they were? Considering that Golden Sun is on the GBA, it would make logical sense that a sequel will be on a Nintendo system...And also adding the fact that Nintendo and Camelot are bunkmates, it was silly to even bring up the point...
And Skip made Giftpia...
Post by: Rich on April 24, 2004, 07:58:58 PM
Post by: Infernal Monkey on April 25, 2004, 12:56:01 AM
Post by: Gremio on April 25, 2004, 01:29:29 AM
Isn't Camelot the same team that made the Shining Force games on Sega systems in past days? I'd LOVE to see a Shining Force game on the Gamecube.
Post by: Termin8Anakin on April 25, 2004, 02:52:49 AM
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Originally posted by: Infernal Monkey
Every game is a role playing game.
Yeah. In every game, you take the role of some fictional character
When I was younger, I never understood why people called some games 'role playing games' and others not.
They should just called em 'Turn-based action/adventure/fantasy/fighting/strategy games', but then the abbreviation would be pretty nasty hahahha.
Post by: SearanoX on April 25, 2004, 06:02:24 AM
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They should just called em 'Turn-based action/adventure/fantasy/fighting/strategy games', but then the abbreviation would be pretty nasty hahahha.
Are you sure? TBAAFFSG...I like the sound of that. Has a nice ring to it, kind of in the vein of MMORPG.
Anyway, Jessmo26, from what I can tell, you essentially want the GameCube to have a lot of RPGs. However, you're ignoring the fact that there are around three or four high-budget and highly-rated titles that are coming out this year (Paper Mario 2, Baiten Kaitos, Fire Emblem, and Tales of Symphonia come to mind), ones which are either GCN exclusive, or are coming out first on the GCN. Why not focus on those games rather than the ones that are coming out rather than the ones that aren't?
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 25, 2004, 06:15:51 AM
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Originally posted by: Gremio
Isn't Camelot the same team that made the Shining Force games on Sega systems in past days? I'd LOVE to see a Shining Force game on the Gamecube.
Yep, they did the three Saturn games...
And while I'd love to see a 3d version of Earthbound, HAL isn't very good using a 3d engine...That's why they canned Mother 3 on the 64 in the first place... :\
Post by: mouse_clicker on April 25, 2004, 06:45:47 AM
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Isn't Camelot the same team that made the Shining Force games on Sega systems in past days? I'd LOVE to see a Shining Force game on the Gamecube.
Technically that wasn't Camelot, I believe- it was a company called Sonic Co., which was headed by the Takahashi brothers, who later on did go to create Camelot. That means Camelot doesn't own the rights to Shining Force, Sega does (as is evident with Shining Soul 1 and 2 and the remakes of Shining Force 1 and 2 on the GBA). So don't get your hopes up for Shining Force coming to the Gamecube, at least not from Camelot.
Post by: Terranigma Freak on April 25, 2004, 06:45:57 AM
Post by: mouse_clicker on April 25, 2004, 06:46:12 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 25, 2004, 06:55:59 AM
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Originally posted by: Terranigma Freak
Intelligent Systems is the one not good with 3D. Hal had plenty of experiencemaking games for N64 and GC. I would rather have Earthbound on GC as well.
Notice that most of HAL's games on the 64 and GC have been 2d-plane games...(SSB and Kirby) They are getting better, but apparently not good enough yet...
Post by: mouse_clicker on April 25, 2004, 06:58:38 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 25, 2004, 07:00:04 AM
Post by: Syl on April 25, 2004, 07:02:59 AM
Shining Force is an intirely different game from shining soul, and both of them are coming out for the GBA in remake form. I'm thinking that Shining Soul II is actually mostly original.. either way, I'm planning on buying it.
Post by: mouse_clicker on April 25, 2004, 07:10:05 AM
I just thought pointing out that Kirby's Air Ride was a full 3D game would have helped the conversation.Syl_Aran: I wasn't saying that Shining Soul 1 and 2 were the remakes of Shining Force 1 and 2, just that they're based around the same license and are on the GBA in addition to the remakes.
Post by: BlkPaladin on April 25, 2004, 09:31:40 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 25, 2004, 09:42:41 AM
Ruin Explorers was an RPG-ish anime, I believe, but I don't recall it being made into a game...
Post by: Rich on April 25, 2004, 12:33:36 PM
Post by: BlkPaladin on April 25, 2004, 12:50:12 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 25, 2004, 01:39:06 PM
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Originally posted by: Rich
Any chance of Skies of Arcadia2, I'm loving the first one.
Yep, the sequel is in the planning stages...
Post by: Rich on April 25, 2004, 04:56:00 PM
Post by: GaimeGuy on April 25, 2004, 05:14:40 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 25, 2004, 05:55:12 PM
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on April 25, 2004, 06:40:29 PM
We should know when E3 is over; hopefully. I'm praying for a Skies sequel!
Post by: Ian Sane on April 25, 2004, 09:06:11 PM
Not Pong. Or Breakout. Or Tetris. Or Mah Jong.
It's funny how people use the literal translation of role playing game to justify calling every game an RPG. Yet action means movement and you don't see anyone saying that all games with movement (which would be like every single game ever made) are action games.
Anyhoo I'd say the major RPG goldmine Nintendo is sitting on is Camelot. Those guys are loyal and so far this gen are exclusive yet the only Cube game they've released thus far is a sequel to Mario Golf which in my opinion was totally unneeded and a waste of their talents. RPGs are huge sellers in Japan and Nintendo NEEDS an exclusive RPG series to compete with the many PS2 exclusive RPGs. They don't need another Mario spinoff game that will have no effect on system sales. Camelot should be working on nothing but original content. That way they may create a new franchise with huge system selling appeal. They'll NEVER create anything like that if all they're working on is Mario games. Mario games don't sell systems anymore. The only team that should be working on Mario games is EAD.
In regards to Skies of Arcadia I would love to see a sequel. And I think it could sell decently if it was actually advertised. Sega could re-release the original game as a player's choice title and promote it heavily about a year before Skies 2's release. Then they should advertise the f*ck out of Skies 2. If the ads for the first game's re-release are effective it should build up a small Skies fanbase that would drive sales of Skies 2. The only thing that held the first game back was zero advertising and the fact that a lot of people who wanted it couldn't find it in stores. Both of those factors are completely under Sega's control.
Post by: Syl on April 26, 2004, 02:20:56 PM
Legends, however, wasn't nearly as great.
Post by: Jessmo26 on April 26, 2004, 10:24:34 PM
(on top of it being a decent RPg) if nintendo got a good Rpg with market appeal the others would have trouble selling good. it seems theve neglected the rpg market for years and now there playing catch UP. On another note it would be cool if they used a marquee character like LInk to make a RPg spin OFF
Post by: Skyman_Welks on April 27, 2004, 12:01:47 PM
Swinging your yo-yo at an enemie and seeing the "level up" notice appear above Mike's head.........ahhhh.
Post by: the_zombie_luke on April 27, 2004, 01:22:15 PM
Post by: jasonditz on April 27, 2004, 02:19:50 PM
IIRC, they even re-released it on one of their Sega Saturn compilation CDs (Japan only of course).
Falcom hasn't made a game for a Nintendo console since the SNES, in fact mostly they make PC games nowadays (with the occasional PS2 title).
I'd love to see them try to do some gamecube titles, but a new Xanadu title might be a tough sell (the World Tree and elf storyline might seem a little too Zelda-y). Better to get an original Ys title.
Post by: joeamis on April 28, 2004, 02:07:18 PM
it's not by Nintendo. (my neighbors mom ran over my friends
copy of Faxanadu by accident, it was crushed all over and cracked
to pieces, but he put it in and it still worked!)
Star Tropics was cool too, a little bit of copying zelda but
still had enough originality. But, I'm almost certain
Nintendo did not make Star Tropics or Star Tropics 2.
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 28, 2004, 02:21:37 PM
Post by: the_zombie_luke on April 28, 2004, 07:33:51 PM
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They did...In fact, it was supposed to be a sister series to Zelda, but it just wasn't a hit like it...
Which is disappointing. Startropics had such interesting stuff in it. Such as pouring water on the instruction manual to get that number, and it had stuff that reminded me of The Goonies. I think it would be awesome for Nintendo to dust off lesser-known franchises like Startropics and Kid Icarus, and give them another chance at the limelight.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 28, 2004, 08:57:12 PM
Post by: Skyman_Welks on April 29, 2004, 11:23:53 AM
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Originally posted by: Bill
They did...In fact, it was supposed to be a sister series to Zelda, but it just wasn't a hit like it...
Which is disappointing. Startropics had such interesting stuff in it. Such as pouring water on the instruction manual to get that number, and it had stuff that reminded me of The Goonies. I think it would be awesome for Nintendo to dust off lesser-known franchises like Startropics and Kid Icarus, and give them another chance at the limelight.
I completely agree. I wish these series had gained more popularity because they were great games. Maybe it would be difficult translating them to 3d, but I still have my fingers crossed for some "surprise announcement"
Post by: joeamis on April 29, 2004, 01:27:27 PM
I hope Mario 128 is 2d too
Post by: Rich on April 29, 2004, 01:41:29 PM
Post by: joedaddy on April 30, 2004, 06:25:05 AM
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Originally posted by: ThePerm
say japanese or jpn please that is not an appropriate abbrieviation.
what was the inappropriate abbrieviation??? i hope it wasnt "jap", because if it was, to denounce it would be overly conservative. all my jap mates call jap stuff "jap". jap food, jap games, jap (as in japanese language) etc. its the same as calling an australian, "aussie".
if the word wasnt "jap" you have my apologies permy.
JAP!
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 30, 2004, 07:17:45 AM
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Post by: jasonditz on April 30, 2004, 10:21:52 AM
Post by: Skyman_Welks on May 01, 2004, 04:14:07 AM
see my crappy however many minute cover art projects
