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Title: Cube Wars Confirmed!....sorta
Post by: jmoe316 on April 19, 2004, 05:07:39 PM
IGN Mailbag

In today's Mailbag, when a person asks about good party games to get, matt responds with some upcoming games. One of those games - Cube Wars!

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Matt responds: There are some good multiplayer titles on the way, actually. You have the obvious ones: Mario Party 6, Super Monkey Ball 3, Metroid Prime (four-player deathmatch mode), Fire Emblem, Pikmin 2 (split-screen cooperative should cool), Cube Wars will be fun, Star Fox 2 will provide a serious deathmatch option, Geist should have a compelling four-player mode, and we can't forget about titles like Mario Tennis or Donkey Konga either.


I don't remember this ever being officially confirmed. Do you think this is supposed to be one of Nintendo's surprised E3 games that maybe Matt has slipped? Also, a reader at the very top asks about Sk and they restate that the news is indeed true, but who knows, let's all pray it's a hoax!  
Title: RE:Cube Wars Confirmed!....sorta
Post by: mouse_clicker on April 19, 2004, 05:17:07 PM
It was really only a matter of time, regardless of whether IGN is making an assumption or not- every Nintendo console except for the N64 has had a Wars game, so I don't see why they'd skip the Gamecube, especially not after announcing Fire Emblem.
Title: RE:Cube Wars Confirmed!....sorta
Post by: jmoe316 on April 19, 2004, 05:19:45 PM
True, but I don't think it has made the leap to full 3D has it? (making it not as expected) Just like Fire Emblem, but I don't follow FE so I could be wrong. Hopefully since the GBA Wars did well here, they'll localize this for us cuz it would be a pretty cool game!  
Title: RE: Cube Wars Confirmed!....sorta
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 19, 2004, 05:28:05 PM
It's a simple 3D look with semi-cel-shaded character models.  Current screenshots show the game at this point is not very detailed.
Title: RE:Cube Wars Confirmed!....sorta
Post by: Pale on April 19, 2004, 05:29:41 PM
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Originally posted by: mouse_clicker
every Nintendo console except for the N64 has had a Wars game, so I don't see why they'd skip the Gamecube


Because they skipped the N64?    Just messing around, but every console except the N64 is what... two out of three?  

Title: RE:Cube Wars Confirmed!....sorta
Post by: jmoe316 on April 19, 2004, 05:31:49 PM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
It's a simple 3D look with semi-cel-shaded character models.  Current screenshots show the game at this point is not very detailed.


Screenshots...where?? I don't think I've ever seen screenshots of Cube Wars. Remember at all where you saw those, cuz I'd love to see them! that would be sweet
Title: RE: Cube Wars Confirmed!....sorta
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 19, 2004, 05:34:31 PM
There has been a Famicom Wars, Super Famicom Wars, Advance Wars, and now will be Cube Wars...But this news was pretty much expected since the "rumor" of the game has been around as long as a GC version of Fire Emblem...

And jmoe, Professional is talking about Fire Emblem...
Title: RE: Cube Wars Confirmed!....sorta
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 19, 2004, 05:36:49 PM
Ah, sorry, I misread.  Yes, I was referring to Fire Emblem.
Title: RE:Cube Wars Confirmed!....sorta
Post by: jmoe316 on April 19, 2004, 05:43:27 PM
ahh ok sorry got a little too excited with the thoughts of possible CW screens, Guess that's what E3 will be for.

Oh and Bill, if you come here again and read this, please tell me everything you know! You are one of very few users i always recognize and it's because you are so sly and secretive as if you know a lot of things we don't in regards to GCN and stuff..so please feel free and talk now! or, like i said in another topic, if you have insider sources and dont want to ruin that, post under a different username.
Title: RE:Cube Wars Confirmed!....sorta
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on April 19, 2004, 07:01:53 PM
PLEASE INCLUDE NETWORK SUPPORT ARRRGGHGHHH
Title: RE: Cube Wars Confirmed!....sorta
Post by: Ian Sane on April 20, 2004, 08:34:11 AM
Wow, I totally skimmed over that mailbag and completely missed that.  It makes total sense to make a Cube Wars since it not only is a major hit that should attract some GBA users to the Cube but also because realitically it could use the exact same engine as Fire Emblem.  I'm actually surprised that Fire Emblem was revealed first.  Since the Wars games are like the Fire Emblem games but more basic it would make more sense to develop that game first and build and improve off it's design for Fire Emblem.

Though the question remains.  Does IGN actually know there's a Cube Wars in the works or are they just guessing?
Title: RE:Cube Wars Confirmed!....sorta
Post by: CHEN on April 20, 2004, 10:11:11 AM
The question is: Who will be developing it? Since Intelligent Systems got their hands full and everything.
Title: RE: Cube Wars Confirmed!....sorta
Post by: Ian Sane on April 20, 2004, 10:46:03 AM
"Who will be developing it? Since Intelligent Systems got their hands full and everything."

Considering those guys in a little over two years have managed to crank out two Advance Wars games, two Fire Emblem games, and two Metroid games for the GBA I'm sure they can handle two Cube games at once.
Title: RE:Cube Wars Confirmed!....sorta
Post by: CHEN on April 20, 2004, 10:59:50 AM
I don't think it has been two years. And Metroid Zero Mission weren't developed by them, only Metroid Fusion. But I get your point. That's the thing, I don't know if they'll use the engine of FE:SnK for it. It seems it be a lot more complicated when you want to develop in 3D. GBA games are much easier and faster to develop. Since the two Advance Wars and Fire Emblem's have the same engine, it's even easier.

And they're busy developing Paper Mario 2 as well. So we'll just have to wait and see. I like my Advance Wars 2D and portable anyway. I don't know about you though.
Title: RE: Cube Wars Confirmed!....sorta
Post by: ghostVi on April 20, 2004, 11:01:55 AM
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?section_name=dev&aid=3326

In short, the rumor is Kuju are making a "strategy focused" game with action elements.
Title: RE:Cube Wars Confirmed!....sorta
Post by: CHEN on April 20, 2004, 11:14:20 AM
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Originally posted by: ghostVi
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?section_name=dev&aid=3326

In short, the rumor is Kuju are making a "strategy focused" game with action elements.


Wha? Is Kuju Entertainment any good? I usually don't like development teams stationed in Great Brittain.

<_<
>_>

*puts up shield*
Title: RE:Cube Wars Confirmed!....sorta
Post by: mouse_clicker on April 20, 2004, 11:39:19 AM
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Wha? Is Kuju Entertainment any good? I usually don't like development teams stationed in Great Brittain.


Well, they made Reign of Fire. Really, though, they're in the same boat as N-Space- they're a small developer who doesn't have enough clout to do their own games and gets contracted, I would assume, by large publishers to make games like these (N-Space's credits include Mary-Kate and Ashley Sweet 16). All in all they're most likely a very talented group of people that just haven't had their time to shine until now.  
Title: RE: Cube Wars Confirmed!....sorta
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 20, 2004, 11:44:30 AM
It's actually rumored that Kuju is working on an FPS that will have added vehicular combat, but you never know...
Title: RE: Cube Wars Confirmed!....sorta
Post by: Rich on April 20, 2004, 12:58:27 PM
Where do you guys hear all these rumors, I've never heard about Kuju making a FPS, why don't you guys put any of this stuff in the rumor thread.
Title: RE: Cube Wars Confirmed!....sorta
Post by: Mannypon on April 20, 2004, 05:33:57 PM
if it is a fps with vehicular combat mixed in, I hope its somewhat like helo or the new unreal tornament but with a big enphasise on story.  IF there is a cube wars, hopefully it'll have an FREE online mode for battles.  The gba games are tight.
Title: RE: Cube Wars Confirmed!....sorta
Post by: KDR_11k on April 21, 2004, 03:01:18 AM
What's helo? The official Hello Kitty game?
Title: RE: Cube Wars Confirmed!....sorta
Post by: Mario on April 21, 2004, 04:28:14 PM
Hmmmm, i'm not sure if i like what i hear. From IGN:
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But don't expect a full-blown RTS here. This is much more of an action game set to the Advance Wars universe. You'll be able war in fully 3D environments and command your units in real-time.

But... but... Advance Wars isn't supposed to be real time. They better not screw this up.
Title: RE: Cube Wars Confirmed!....sorta
Post by: Perfect Cell on April 21, 2004, 06:01:49 PM
Sounds to me like an action type game. Kinda like their Reign of Fire game... and nothing like Advance Wars/Fire Emblem
Title: RE: Cube Wars Confirmed!....sorta
Post by: Ian Sane on April 22, 2004, 07:13:37 AM
"But don't expect a full-blown RTS here. This is much more of an action game set to the Advance Wars universe. You'll be able war in fully 3D environments and command your units in real-time."

That's not a Wars game.  It's an action game with the Wars name attached.  If Nintendo isn't going to give us a "true" Cube Wars they should just make this a completely new franchise.  Though I suppose it's possible that it's a different game and IGN is just assuming it would be called Cube Wars.

Lately though Nintendo doesn't seem to "get" why people like their franchises.  We like them because they're great games, not because of the name or the content.  Star Fox is popular because it's a great 3D shooter.  The Star Fox characters have no real affect on it's popularity which is why virtually everyone was pissed off when Dinosaur Planet became Star Fox Adventures.  Warioland is a popular series on the Gameboy yet Wario World was poorly received because it was a completely different game that had nothing to do with the classic Gameboy series.  Pokemon Colosseum was a 3D Pokemon RPG but it had no resemblance to the 3D Pokemon RPG the fans had been asking for for years.  Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles is a good game in it's own right but it is far from what people were asking for when they said they wanted Final Fantasy on Gamecube.  The name is just a name.  The gameplay is what matters.

I want to see a Cube Wars game released but I want it to play similar to Advance Wars.  Otherwise it's not the game we've asked for.
Title: RE: Cube Wars Confirmed!....sorta
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 22, 2004, 07:22:47 AM
"Pokemon Colosseum was a 3D Pokemon RPG but it had no resemblance to the 3D Pokemon RPG the fans had been asking for for years."

It was pretty damn close to it...A perfect representation for a first try...

As always, the "fans" expect way too much, sometimes even more than what is feasible...
Title: RE: Cube Wars Confirmed!....sorta
Post by: Ian Sane on April 22, 2004, 07:41:51 AM
"It was pretty damn close to it...A perfect representation for a first try...

As always, the 'fans' expect way too much, sometimes even more than what is feasible..."

That game wouldn't even let you battle or catch wild Pokemon.  That's like the WHOLE POINT of Pokemon and they took it out.  Every Pokemon fan I've ever talked to in my life has said they've always wanted a 3D Pokemon RPG like the Gameboy games where you capture Pokemon in the wild, fight trainers, trade with friends, explore the world (in 3D!) and collect badges from gyms.  That's different then all these crazy MMORPG ideas that people have.  That was perfectly feasible and Nintendo gave us something completely different.

I'm sensing much off-topic conversation.
Title: RE:Cube Wars Confirmed!....sorta
Post by: PaLaDiN on April 22, 2004, 09:27:15 AM
Don't be ridiculous, Pokemon has everything to do with Cube Wars.

Anyway, I don't see how this will work... Realtime strategy has never worked on consoles, and action isn't Cube Wars. This whole thing reminds me of C&C: Renegade for some reason, and that game was horrible.

I'll give the game a chance if it's good, but the odds are stacked against them.
Title: RE:Cube Wars Confirmed!....sorta
Post by: ThePerm on April 22, 2004, 09:31:48 AM
hmmm, i remember seeing a video of n64 wars for i beleive 64dd quite a while ago at one spaceworld....im not sure if it ever came out...but it doesnt seem so. Hmm, well as far as Kuju goes..who knows they could be good. For instance I didn't know much about Silicon Knights till Eternal Darkness came out. Actually I used ED as a heavy test for them. That game was make or break for them in my eyes...luckily they passed with flying colors.  
Title: RE:Cube Wars Confirmed!....sorta
Post by: jmoe316 on April 22, 2004, 01:40:16 PM
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Originally posted by: ThePerm
For instance I didn't know much about Silicon Knights till Eternal Darkness came out. Actually I used ED as a heavy test for them. That game was make or break for them in my eyes...luckily they passed with flying colors.



And now they have left us... Maybe....
Title: RE: Cube Wars Confirmed!....sorta
Post by: ThePerm on April 22, 2004, 02:30:15 PM
yep maybe
Title: RE: Cube Wars Confirmed!....sorta
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 22, 2004, 02:43:12 PM
Maybe is such a cowardly term...You guys on the fence should be brave enough to choose one side or the other... ^_^
Title: RE: Cube Wars Confirmed!....sorta
Post by: ThePerm on April 22, 2004, 08:47:38 PM
im really caring less and less....games don't really rule my life right now...more or less the girlfriend does
Title: RE:Cube Wars Confirmed!....sorta
Post by: Dazzybee on April 26, 2004, 01:55:04 PM
Kuju recently did a tester day and someone I know went, they couldnt tell me what it was, but it DEFINATELY wasn't Cube Wars. I believe him. It maybe being made, but it aint Kuju. I cant see it myself, but we shall see.