Post by: Darc Requiem on April 11, 2004, 11:29:55 AM
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Post by: akdaman1 on April 11, 2004, 01:06:33 PM
Namco actually estimated 500 000 JUST for JApan. Now thats quite a lot for a gamecube game. But seeing how Nintendo loved the game so much ( It put them over sony for a week ) Im sure they bought an exclutivity deal for a period of time.
Baten Kaitos on the other hand flopped. It was supposed to sell around 110 000 or something in Japan but only made it to 80 000.
So in answer to your question yes, we are getting Legendia.
Post by: ruby_onix on April 11, 2004, 01:24:52 PM
The only thing I can say is that The MagicBox said that Namco had announced it in Japan, and they seem to be pretty good about being on top of things over there.
Here's a PGC link saying Symphonia sold almost 200k in it's first week, and that Namco hoped to sell a half-million in total.
Here's a MagicBox link showing Symphonia as being ranked the #31 in all of Japan in the 2003 calendar year, having sold 311,473 units.
Here's another MagicBox link showing Tales of Destiny 2 as the #8 game in Japan in 2002, having sold 662,699 units.
If we go with 2002 fiscal year numbers, which cut off at the end of March, we cut out three months of time from when the game hadn't launched yet, and add three months of after-Christmas sales. This gives Destiny 2 an extra 171,208 units, giving them the rank of #6, with 833,877 total units sold.
That extra 171k units at the start of 2003 must have been at a discounted price or something, because it seems that it didn't help Destiny 2 crack the top 100 of calendar 2003, which seemed to bottom out with games that sold 130k units.
I haven't found any "fiscal year" numbers to apply to Symphonia yet, although the fiscal year for 2003 did end more than a week ago now.
Post by: CHEN on April 11, 2004, 03:46:23 PM
Also Namco never registered the name 'Tales of Legendia', at least not that I know. So basically it's just a rumour.
Here are the names they did register:
Tales of Rebirth
Tales of Justice
Tales of Honesty
Tales of Tactics
They've just trademarked it though, so not all of them are going to be developed.
I don't know how they can do a sequel of it anyway, seeing I don't know the ending of it. I hope it's not one of those 'open' endings. I mean, both planets can't survive the ordeal can they? (Don't answer this! I was being rhetorical.) Maybe Bill can help us out. *calls for Bill*
EDIT: Oops, forgot Tales of Truthia
Post by: ruby_onix on April 11, 2004, 04:56:01 PM
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I don't know how they can do a sequel of it anyway, seeing I don't know the ending of it. I hope it's not one of those 'open' endings. I mean, both planets can't survive the ordeal can they? (Don't answer this! I was being rhetorical.)
"Sequel" doesn't always mean "same planet".
Just that one game is set in the same... I guess we could call it "universe" as the other game.
(PS: I have no inside info about the games, so you don't have to worry about that being a spoiler.)
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 11, 2004, 05:38:06 PM
Last I heard Tales of Legendia isn't a rumor(and Magicbox isn't a rumor mill anyway) and will feature GC/GBA connectivity with the GBA Tales that Namco is also working on...
Post by: akdaman1 on April 11, 2004, 06:39:39 PM
Check Denkgies ( or however you spell it ) for a more accurate #.
P.s - I believe that Namco were happy with TOS sales.
Post by: Darc Requiem on July 27, 2004, 11:57:24 AM
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Post by: Bill Aurion on July 27, 2004, 12:14:59 PM
(Oh, and the story only gets better and better...There's no possible way you can pull back your judgement... ^_^)
Post by: theRPGFreak on July 27, 2004, 05:17:02 PM
) and I was suprised that they didn't try to stop the port or the game or even Tales of Rebirth for the PS2.
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 27, 2004, 05:36:39 PM
And because of that, it seems that Ninty will be getting the action/rpg titles exclusively(time-delay or not), and that Sony will be getting the standard RPGs...The Legendia "rumor" even stated that Legendia for the GC/Rev would be using the linear action battle system, while Tales of Truthia(another PS2 game) would be using the standard turn-based format...
Post by: Hostile Creation on July 27, 2004, 05:37:44 PM
And did everyone get banned or something, or is altering your identity slightly just a fad?
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 27, 2004, 05:42:16 PM
And I had mine changed because I <3 Kratos with a passion! ^_^
Post by: Urkel on July 27, 2004, 09:47:29 PM
The Playstation Tales games are turn-based? Screw that. Sony can keep those games.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 27, 2004, 10:31:08 PM
Post by: Hostile Creation on July 28, 2004, 12:22:41 PM
Post by: KnowsNothing on July 28, 2004, 12:47:06 PM
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I've got nothing against the name. . but Legendia is just the most retarded name I've ever heard.
It looks like you DO have something against the name. ^_^;
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 28, 2004, 01:15:07 PM
Post by: Darc Requiem on July 28, 2004, 01:50:21 PM
Edit: Why does it say Happy Birthday Terminate under my avatar? WTF?
Darc Requiem
Post by: rpglover on July 28, 2004, 02:05:25 PM
Post by: Hostile Creation on July 28, 2004, 02:55:11 PM
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It looks like you DO have something against the name. ^_^;
Oops. . . I'm pretty sure I meant to say "game". . .
Sorry Bill. But y'know what I think would be good? If they named the next one Tales of Taleia.
Post by: ruby_onix on July 28, 2004, 03:01:28 PM
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How did ToS do on PS2, not in sales I mean the quality of the conversion. Outside of the overworld I'd have to think there would be a framerate reduction, or some scaling back of the games graphical quality.
It's not out in Japan yet, so I don't think anyone really knows.
It comes out in Japan on September 22, last I saw.
Post by: Syl on July 28, 2004, 06:43:17 PM
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Wait...
The Playstation Tales games are turn-based? Screw that. Sony can keep those games.
Not sure how you got this information, Tales currently has 4 games (Tales of Phantasia/destiny/eternia(destiny 2 in the states) and Symphonia)
Not a single one has been turn based, Every single one used the linear battle engine, cept for Symphonia, which used a 3d variant.
I don't know why they would randomly decide to make a turn based one now... it goes against the entire Tales Series.
Likewise, I'm not quite sure where the name Symphonia came from, tis never once mentioned in the game in any way/shape or form.
I would love a sequel though, it has some MAJOR shoes to fill though.
oh.. and i was under the impression that the GBA tales game was simply yet another remake of Tales of Phantasia (Modified off of the playstation version). I hope that ToS does well enough here that they think its a good idea to localize it.
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 28, 2004, 06:49:27 PM
Symphony - Harmony, especially of sound or color.
The goal of the game is to breed harmony, so I guess it could be attributed to that...
Post by: Polemistis on July 28, 2004, 07:28:09 PM
Post by: Ray00101 on July 28, 2004, 10:48:04 PM
Post by: Deguello on July 29, 2004, 12:46:15 AM
That may be true on all fronts, even if you own a PS2, unless you wanna import. SCEA hasn't been very kind as of late about games that look like Rebirth.
and if it IS turn-based? Eww yuck keep it away from me.
Post by: Uglydot on July 29, 2004, 06:29:41 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 29, 2004, 07:02:24 PM
Tales of Eternia
Tales of Symphonia
Tales of Legendia
Post by: Syl on July 29, 2004, 07:30:50 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Tales of Phantasia
Tales of Eternia
Tales of Symphonia
Tales of Legendia
Tales of Destiny-ia?
Tales of Rebirth-ia?
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 29, 2004, 07:53:42 PM
Post by: Urkel on July 29, 2004, 08:00:07 PM
Maybe they know something we don't know, or maybe it's just a mistake.
If TOS is selling as well as most people think, I don't see any reason why they wouldn't release it in North America.
