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Title: Paper Mario2 announced!!!
Post by: WuTangTurtle on March 31, 2004, 09:25:18 AM
I dont know if anyone else already knows about this or have posted this but.......

Ign just released news on Paper Mario2!!!!
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Post by: Bill Aurion on March 31, 2004, 09:27:01 AM
After knowing about the game for a good year, finally there's official confirmation...

I really hope they get rid of the buddy system, and just make it like M&L
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Post by: Ian Sane on March 31, 2004, 09:39:39 AM
Crap!  Okay that might seem like a weird comment for what is for the most part good news but hear me out.  I was hoping for one of two possibilities.  Either Nintendo would go with the formula of having a different developer for each Mario RPG like they had done so far (Square, Intelligent Systems, Alpha Dream) OR they would have Square return to the series that they started.  If any developer should be making more than one Mario RPG it should be Square.  Odds are that if the N64 wasn't cartridge based Square would have made the next Mario RPG and would have made ALL of them up to this point.  As good of a developer Intelligent Systems is they were a replacement and thus if the original developer is available (and in theory they are) I want to see the originals continue the series.

Now Paper Mario was a great game and Paper Mario 2 surely will be as well but in my opinion it's not as good as Super Mario RPG and it's irritating that Nintendo is going forward with what I consider the "inferior" design.  Nintendo seems to ALWAYS go with the most recent design for their games regardless of which one is more popular.  Since DKC Donkey Kong has always had his Rare look, Yoshi has maintained the Yoshi's Story look (for reasons I don't understand since Yoshi's Island and Super Mario World are obviously more popular games), and I'm worried of Zelda retaining the Wind Waker look (though they seem to change Zelda up a little bit every gen).  It's like if Nintendo changes something on you and you don't like it, TOUGH, because they're keeping it.

For comparisons sake imagine that Rare was bought by Electronic Arts but the next James Bond game went to another developer.  
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Post by: Bill Aurion on March 31, 2004, 09:47:04 AM
We've known about the game for a good year, so it should have been expected that the name "Paper Mario 2" would assume a direct sequel(in terms of story and in design) ^_^

It also gives IS something to do, considering this is their first GC title...
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Post by: theRPGFreak on March 31, 2004, 10:09:56 AM
How about Mario RPG2 for crying out loud?!
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Post by: SearanoX on March 31, 2004, 10:50:38 AM
Gotta love it.  The first Paper Mario was a blast, and if they can fix up the difficulty (a bit easy near the end), and the length (not too short, but not your typical RPG length), then it'll be a great game.  I have confidence that they'll live up to the original, even surpass it.
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Post by: Berny on March 31, 2004, 11:15:09 AM
Yummy! I can't wait. I like how everything is paper .
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Post by: Mario on March 31, 2004, 12:40:16 PM
Yes! This is great news, and we should get screens and info in the next week, because supposedly the next issue of Famitsu Weekly in Japan will cover it.

Can't wait!
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Post by: CaseyRyback on March 31, 2004, 01:41:56 PM
Intelligent Systems making a Gamecube game . . .gasp!!!
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Post by: WuTangTurtle on March 31, 2004, 02:20:58 PM
Now if only Intelligent Systems would make a Advance Wars game on GCN.

Doesnt japan have a "Wars" game on every Nintendo System?  If so has anyone heard of a "Wars" game for GCN?
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Post by: Bill Aurion on March 31, 2004, 02:22:39 PM
Every system except the 64...A GC version is rumored to be in development...
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Post by: Pikkcuber on March 31, 2004, 03:07:22 PM
Yes a mario RPG sequel would be great.  The two best game developers of all time nintendo and square join the same team once again.  It would have geno and malo back in at least for a cameo.  And maybe incorporate some fianl fantasy characters like kingdom hearts.  But alas nintendo show intelligence systems.
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Post by: evil intentions on March 31, 2004, 03:49:24 PM
I've never played Paper Mario.  Is it really good?
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Post by: mouse_clicker on March 31, 2004, 03:50:11 PM
Quote

I've never played Paper Mario. Is it really good?


Do yourself a favor and play it as soon as you can- it's easily one of the best RPG's I've ever played.  
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Post by: Berny on March 31, 2004, 05:00:07 PM
It's not a good game. It is a GREAT game. All Mario RPGs are. I haven't played the original in a long time though. I need an SNES *coughoraconvenientGBAportcough*.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on March 31, 2004, 05:02:50 PM
You better go out and find a copy...NOW!

A very beautiful and entrancing game... ^_^
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Post by: Deguello on March 31, 2004, 05:42:55 PM
I'm gonna disagree heartily with Ian and say that Square should keep their glad hands off Mario.  I found Alpha Dream's and Intelligent System's Mario Action-Platformer-RPGs to be FAR superior to Square's.  Definitely Alpha Dream's.

"Now Paper Mario was a great game and Paper Mario 2 surely will be as well but in my opinion it's not as good as Super Mario RPG and it's irritating that Nintendo is going forward with what I consider the "inferior" design."

Aww Ian I hate to say this, but can you at least wait until the game is released before you make a judgement on it?
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Post by: Ian Sane on March 31, 2004, 06:03:09 PM
"Aww Ian I hate to say this, but can you at least wait until the game is released before you make a judgement on it?"

You're right.  I shouldn't have assumed that Paper Mario 2 will be a great game as well.
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Post by: savanna03 on March 31, 2004, 06:06:52 PM
i was hoping for ALPHA DREAM but hey INTELLIGENT SYSTEM will do.  they are pretty good development group.  comon, ADVANCE WARS, FIRE EMBLEM and PAPER MARIO in their resume, how can you go wrong with that.  

SQUARE??? meh, i hate SQUARE after playing CRYSTAL CHRONICLES.   how in the world did the last boss battle last almost 2 hours to beat.  the first boss was pretty simple up until in the 3rd form... then this stupid RAEM guy comes in and no save point in between whos freakin' hit (the real boss) takes 1/4 of my life each time and his crewny takes 2 hearts for one hit and i only have 7 hearts in all with a crappy weapon, armour and artifacts...   nice going SQUARE no balance at all.  
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Post by: KDR_11k on March 31, 2004, 06:18:11 PM
Since I skipped the N64 generation I have no idea what PM is like, but hell, Mario&Luigi was godlike, so this should be good, too. And if all fails we still got Mario vs. Donkey Kong.
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Post by: Sir Pinch-a-Loaf on March 31, 2004, 07:40:12 PM
SCREENSHOTS: http://game-science.com/news/000528.html

Hottness!
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Post by: Bill Aurion on April 01, 2004, 12:17:05 AM
Meh, that link isn't working for me...So use this one instead...

-I see Ninty is still sticking with that weird buddy system...
-The game looks great
-Playing as Koopa!?
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Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on April 01, 2004, 01:00:22 AM
Good lord, why are the 2 Paper Mario Famitsu Scans in .bmp and over 2MB???????????????
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Post by: Oldskool on April 01, 2004, 03:17:19 AM
How about Paper Mario 2: Cardboard Mario. Its the next generation of paper!
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Post by: Ymeegod on April 01, 2004, 05:18:59 AM
Still waiting for "confirmation".  Otherwise this is a sad-utter aprils fools that someone should be shot over.

Guess in a week we'll know for sure.

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Post by: theRPGFreak on April 01, 2004, 05:50:45 AM
Wow... it looks REALLY good...cant wait to play it
Title: RE: Paper Mario2 announced!!!
Post by: Ian Sane on April 01, 2004, 05:58:35 AM
Looks pretty similar to the N64 one.  That's not bad or anything I'm just a little surprised since lately it's been a rarity for Nintendo to release sequels that look exactly how we expect them to.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on April 01, 2004, 06:33:40 AM
It looks much better than it did on the 64...Take a look at the difference between the shot of M&L's house in PM2 VS. PM...You'll notice the difference...
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Post by: Ian Sane on April 01, 2004, 06:39:51 AM
I know it looks BETTER than the N64 game.  I meant the style is virtually identical.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on April 01, 2004, 06:46:51 AM
Oh, well it is a direct sequel...Just as Wind Waker 2 is going to look basically the same as Wind Waker and as Majora's Mask was similar to OoT...So it makes sense to keep the same style...
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 01, 2004, 10:00:06 AM
Very Sexy.
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Post by: evil intentions on April 01, 2004, 10:17:20 AM
Wait, so what system is the first Paper Mario for? I thought it was for Gamecube.  
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Post by: Myxtika1 Azn on April 01, 2004, 03:28:58 PM
The original Paper Mario was released on the N64.
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Post by: KDR_11k on April 01, 2004, 07:00:14 PM
Reminds me of those first "Project Reality" "screenshots" where they pasted images of Mario&co into a normal photo.
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Post by: mouse_clicker on April 01, 2004, 08:13:45 PM
Does this remind anyone else of that Paper Mario GBA hoax a while back, complete with a faked video? That suddenly came back to mind just now.
Title: RE: Paper Mario2 announced!!!
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 02, 2004, 01:20:53 AM
Do you mean that side scroller?  That wasn't a fake, just a illegally produced game...
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Post by: mouse_clicker on April 02, 2004, 02:19:51 AM
Really? I have to say, it was very well done. I hope the people that made it put their talents to projects that won't get them sued.
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Post by: Mario on April 02, 2004, 01:20:42 PM
Those screenshots look very nice, they've got me excited. Hopefully Luigi plays more of a role in Paper Mario 2 than he did in Paper Mario, he's in a few of the screens, but they're all in his house... i wonder if he leaves the house in this one, i hope he does. It appears Toadsworth is in the game, he's becoming more and more "popular", i like him.

I absolutely love the graphical style, and i'm glad they're sticking with the 2D paper look. The paper plane thing sounds like a really cool idea, how could someone not say "cool!" when you tell them that Mario can fold into a paper plane? This game looks really fun, i can't wait to play it. I hope to see some of that trademark humor that's present in all the Mario RPG games too.

I hope that somehow we get the original Paper Mario as a bonus disk or something, because i've played it (by renting it a million times), but because only a limited number of copies were released here i could never buy myself a copy, and i would love to own the game. I doubt it... but it's possible!
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Post by: Berny on April 02, 2004, 02:11:39 PM
I haven't been this happy since I first played TTS. That wasn't too long ago making that a horrible example. Meh. I love Paper Mario like a scissors. ^_^
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Post by: Pale on April 02, 2004, 04:15:30 PM
Uhmmm yeah, i didn't really post anything here...  I think i'm losing my mind...
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Post by: evil intentions on April 02, 2004, 06:26:54 PM
I went to Gamestop and they didn't have paper mario.  I asked them if they were getting it and they said no.  Is there anywhere that they are selling them? I don't know where else to go.  Gamestop is the only place that really sells games around here.

PaleZer0: Tell us something we don't know...
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Post by: joshnickerson on April 03, 2004, 03:41:30 AM
Good luck. I had to buy Paper Mario USED only FIVE or SIX months after it's original release, because I couldn't find it new ANYWHERE.
I'd try e-Bay, or it's actually in stock on Gamestop.com
http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=918345
and sometimes even Amazon.com will surprise you
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/offering/list/-/B00004U1R3/all/ref=dp_pb_a/103-9943418-9741401
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Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on April 03, 2004, 11:08:53 AM
Why doesn't Peach have a nose in Paper mario 2?  
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Post by: Berny on April 03, 2004, 11:12:11 AM
That's the plot. In this game, her nose is stolen.

NOSE GET!
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Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on April 03, 2004, 11:17:05 AM
Well They stole her voice in Superstar Saga, so I guess her nose is fair game

Mario has this huge snozz, while Peach has no nose whatsoever, maybe their kids will end up in between with a normal nose
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Post by: Berny on April 03, 2004, 11:33:58 AM
I was alluding to M&L.

I hope we can play as Luigi in PM2.
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Post by: RABicle on April 03, 2004, 10:34:58 PM
This is definatly one of the happiest game announcements I've heard since Tales of Phantasia 2 (now known as Symphonia) was announced for cube.
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Post by: KDR_11k on April 04, 2004, 07:44:44 AM
RABicle: You sure that was the working title? Some Tales of ... 2 game is coming for PS2, or was that Tales of Destiny 2?
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Post by: Bill Aurion on April 04, 2004, 08:17:19 AM
Tales of Destiny 2(aka Tales of Eternia in Japan) was for the PS...The Tales game that is coming to the PS2/PS3 is Tales of Truthia, while the GC/N5 will be getting Tales of Legendia...

(And I don't recall Peach having a nose in the first Paper Mario, either...It's just the she was designed for the game)  
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Post by: couchmonkey on April 04, 2004, 12:07:37 PM
I can't wait!  I've always thought of all the games in the series as being sort of equal, each with it's own strengths.  But looking at the Paper Mario 2 screenshots, I'm starting to realize that Paper Mario is my favourite.  It's just so...Marioesque.  It's got a level of Marioness that I haven't seen in a game since Yoshi's Island was released on the Super Nintendo.  The graphics, the gameplay, the music, the storyline, it's all so Marioy!  

All three games are amazing, though, and I'm sure this one will be no exception.  I hope that Intelligent Systems improves the writing and beefs up the battle system.  A few more hours of game time would be nice too.  But even if it's a pure cookie cutter sequel to Paper Mario, I think I'll love it.


 
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Post by: mjbd on April 04, 2004, 12:42:05 PM
When I first played Paper Marioon the N64, I didnt care for it.  But I only played for about 15 minutes.  At the time, I didnt like RPG's.  I thought they were boring.  The game that change my mind was Ogre Battle 64, one of my favorite games of all time.  I am now much more open to RPG's, and wanted to give Paper Mario another try.  I dont care to buy games used, being that I dont know how well they were taken care of prior to my purchase, but luckely I was able to find a brand new copy on ebay today for $35, kinda pricey for a N64 game, but its demand is pretty high.  Looking forward to getting it in the mail, and I am sure when I am done with that I will be looking forward to the GCN sequel.
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Post by: Mannypon on April 06, 2004, 09:31:33 AM
dam all this talk has got me in the mood to dust off my n64 and give paper mario another run lol.  But onto the topic, paper mario 2 looks almost identical to the first cept in higher resolution and of course better colors and whatnot.  From the pics Ive seen, it seems they might still be using the buddy system again.  I agree somewhat wit lan though in the sence that I'll like to see a mario rpg 2 since I loved the snes one.  There was just something special about seein mario run around in an rpg world, visiting towns and having turn based battles with a group.  A little off topic now, if square and nintendo were to get together again to make another colab rpg I think they should skip on mario rpg and make a nintendo rpg somewhat like kingdom hearts but with all of nintendo's franchises.  You can visit the mushroom kingdom, hyrule, planet zebes, the world of star fox, earthbound's world.  and whatever else you'll like to add.  It'll be nice if you had the option of creating the main character and have the main characters look slightly change dependin on what world you go to in order to fit in a lil better.  Like if you go to hyrule, the game will use the cell shaded look and all the characters are cell shaded and so on.
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Post by: mjbd on April 06, 2004, 03:33:31 PM
I have made the mistake in the past of judging a game by screen schots.  I thought Mario Kart DD looked horrible from the screenshots, but one the game is in motion, it was very nice.  So the same will probably hold true with this game.
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Post by: KDR_11k on April 06, 2004, 09:18:09 PM
Manny: That'd be called the Captain N RPG.
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Post by: Smashman on April 07, 2004, 08:15:41 AM
This will surely make GC the best system of all time, if it is not already!

Paper Mario pwned M&L and SMPRG.
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Post by: PaLaDiN on April 07, 2004, 11:12:54 AM
What's wrong with paper airplanes?

How quickly you forget Luigi Board in M&L. Nothing wrong with that.
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Post by: Mannypon on April 08, 2004, 10:20:05 AM
word lol, forgot all about captain n lol but yeah it would be like that in a sence but I'll prefer creatin my own character instead of using captain n or having him as one of the sub characters lol.
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Post by: mjbd on April 08, 2004, 03:59:59 PM
Really looking forward to seeing more of this game when E3 rolls around.  It would be nice if this game was closer to completion than we think.
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Post by: Smashman on April 09, 2004, 01:03:13 PM
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars and Paper Mario were both CLASSICS. I hope they change the name from 'Paper Mario 2' to something else, to make it less sequel-ish, much like they did with Melee.

Maybe or Svelte Mario, or Super Mario "ER"PG: Too Much Liposuction.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on April 09, 2004, 02:20:02 PM
It's been a while since Ninty has spattered a number to one of their main sequels(Mario Party doesn't really count), so I wouldn't worry about a title change... ^_^
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Post by: CHEN on April 10, 2004, 10:25:41 AM
I'll Nintendo for eternity, if they'll include the original Paper Mario as a promotion item. There must be a lot of people who haven't experienced it yet, considering it was released at the end of the N64 life cycle. Someone should e-mail them or something.
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Post by: WuTangTurtle on April 11, 2004, 09:49:38 AM
oh man i didnt even think that would be a possibility!

I just bought the 64 version for $30 a couple of days ago.

sigh........
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Post by: Berny on April 11, 2004, 01:33:09 PM
Quote

Originally posted by: CHEN
I'll Nintendo for eternity, if they'll include the original Paper Mario as a promotion item. There must be a lot of people who haven't experienced it yet, considering it was released at the end of the N64 life cycle. Someone should e-mail them or something.


A Paper Mario Promotional item? Wouldn't that be a paper cut out of Mario? Meh, at least it's cheap.