Post by: DrZoidberg on March 27, 2004, 03:16:34 PM
i was looking around ebay for an NTSC snes to buy, to play all those wonderful NTSC games that arn't available in PAL format, and i came accross this little gem, i was bidding on it but got out bid, but the thing is i've never even heard of one of these before, neither has Berto2k or Infernal Monkey, anyone know what their deal is?
pro tip i'm not selling this so yeah not trying to get bids on my auction, it may be finnished by the time you read this anyway, didn't have long to go.
Post by: ib2kool4u912 on March 27, 2004, 03:29:18 PM
Edit:Yeah, its even the super nintendo showed at nintendo.com.
Post by: Ian Sane on March 27, 2004, 03:36:30 PM
That's messed up that they put that model on the Nintendo web page. I always thought Nintendo were masters of revisionist history what with their insistance in adding crappy voices to their GBA ports. Now I know for sure.
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 27, 2004, 04:20:03 PM
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Post by: ruby_onix on March 27, 2004, 05:38:15 PM
The controllers in that auction are the wrong ones. "Super Nintendo" with an underline is printed on the controller face.
The controllers that came with the newer-model SNES have Nintendo's oval "race track" logo engraved into them instead.
The engraved ones are cooler, and obviously much more rare.
Edit: Actually, "engraved" seems like the wrong word. Umm... "recessed" maybe? Yeah, that sounds better.
Post by: Arbok on March 27, 2004, 06:09:32 PM
Also, as I recall, Game Genie didn't work with the "mini" version of the SNES, much to my dismay as I still can't beat the Super Star Wars games any other way.
Post by: KDR_11k on March 27, 2004, 07:01:00 PM
Post by: DrZoidberg on March 27, 2004, 07:13:07 PM
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Originally posted by: Hedorah64
Also, as I recall, Game Genie didn't work with the "mini" version of the SNES, much to my dismay as I still can't beat the Super Star Wars games any other way.
i beat the original Super StarWars two days after i got it
i love that game.i figured it would be like the toploading NES, released late in the life of the SNES etc, i've just never seen one before, too bad i didn't win it ;__; atleast i know it's not rare ++ (even though i should have guessed from the price).
side note, the NTSC-J and PAL snes' look FAR better than the regular NTSC snes, soooo blocky ;__;
Post by: Molobert on March 27, 2004, 08:39:33 PM
Post by: DrZoidberg on March 27, 2004, 11:42:59 PM
Post by: ruby_onix on March 27, 2004, 11:56:02 PM
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The mini-SNES also has the A/V (red/white/yellow) cords, unlike the older one which uses the RF switch thing that plugs into the cable in the back of your TV.
Yeah. But it's not so much that it "has" AV cables, but it "doesn't" have the RF-out port.
But the back of the unit was perfectly-sized so you could plug an RF adaptor from the N64 into the multi-out port.
(The N64's adaptor is a little "black brick" that lets you use the NES's "grey rectangle" RF switch. Odd note, the GameCube's RF adaptor is NES and N64 technology, with the same N64 logos and everything, just with new packaging.)
The N64's RF adaptor physically can't fit onto the earlier SNES model's multi-out port, unless you were to chop some plastic (which is pointless, since you can just use the RF port provided, but...).
Post by: KnowsNothing on March 28, 2004, 02:50:14 AM
When I got my SNES it was used. It's the old version, but if what ruby says is true I got the rare controller.
(and a thrid party one that's creaky and squeaky, but I hardly use that one.)
Post by: KDR_11k on March 28, 2004, 05:16:02 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on March 28, 2004, 10:17:11 AM
Actually I think the problem is with two different models of the Game Genie. According to a really old Gamepro issue I have there are two models of the SNES Game Genie. Apparently around 1994 or so Nintendo made a slight change to the SNES hardware that prevented the Game Genie from working (intentional or accidental? Who knows with Nintendo). So a second Game Genie was made that would work with both SNES designs. The problem is that most Game Genies that you find are older pre-1994 models so they not only don't work with the new design SNES but also any models that were made after 1994. I bought my SNES new shortly after DKC came out so I have a post-1994 model and sure enough I have twice bought used Game Genies and both times they wouldn't work with my system. As far as I know there's no noticable physical difference between the two Game Genie models.
Post by: nitsu niflheim on March 28, 2004, 03:49:51 PM
Post by: Infernal Monkey on March 28, 2004, 04:46:19 PM
I can't wait for the Mini-GameCube in a few years, it'll replace my current key ring!
Post by: Uglydot on March 29, 2004, 09:00:41 AM
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Post by: King of Twitch on March 29, 2004, 10:46:47 AM
Post by: ruby_onix on March 29, 2004, 03:59:50 PM
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Originally posted by: Fluke Worm
Ok since no one mentioned the biggest difference between the new and old model type of the SNES I will, no eject button. Not really a big difference between the two unless you consider all the SNES consoles stupid kids must have broke pulling cartridges out without actually using the eject button. At least that's what I assume because later in the SNES's life it's cartridges changed to what it would appear a new design to help prevent the breaking of the eject lever. But like I said, I'm just assuming this.
Good point. Reminds me of something I heard once.
Early SNES games had a "notch" in them. There was a wide plastic "peg" of sorts inside the SNES, and when you turned on the power, it would slide into the notch, "locking" the cart into the unit, so you couldn't yank the cart out while the power was on (you could prbably break your eject lever trying).
I was talking with a guy at Nintendo of Canada once (something I should really do more often, but you kind of need an excuse), and he explained that "some a-hole" went and took out a patent on the mechanisim, after Nintendo started using it.
As a way to avoid the issue, Nintendo removed the peg from all later SNES units (including the model-2), and they redesigned the "notch" into a "slant" for later SNES games.
This "slant" changed the way the mechanisim worked, so it would push the bar, switching off the power if you tried to eject the cart while the power was on. I don't think it really worked very well, but newer units didn't come with the peg (unless an NOC employee happened to "accidentally" drop one into your later-model SNES
), and older units used the peg in a different way "about half the time", so it put Nintendo into the clear.This "patent on the locking mechanisim" situation also apparently affected the original GameBoy.
Oddly, later Super Famicom games were not affected by this. Which I guess means that it was just an "American" legal issue.
Post by: ib2kool4u912 on March 30, 2004, 09:20:19 AM
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