Post by: alvinaloy on March 27, 2004, 03:12:36 AM
Anyway, Nintendojo has some scan of a magazine in France which spoke of Gamecube Online. See the scans here and here.
Similar images here.
Thanks to tenguman for translation here:
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Everyone wants Gamecube to support online gaming, but the Japanese company firmly refused to appease players and only allowed local area network gaming. Analysts thus predicted a death sentece, but with the success of Playstation Online, could you really blame them for predicting this? However, perhaps in part to spur sales of the GC, Nintendo is ready to show off their new plans at E3... ahead of the presentation of their new portable.
Nintendo of America is creating an online service to use with the broadband adapter. Not having any real experience in the networking field, they made an agreement with Gamespy which has many years experience in centralized servers used to join players for games on the Internet. Logitech, an unexpected 3rd player in this venture, will supplement the accessories used for communication. The result of this surprising triple alliance has been seen before with Xbox Live!...and it will have some things similar to Xbox Live.
The headset is like the Wavebird in that it is free from wires. The options are very close to Microsoft's service...it will be possible to have a list of friends, take part in vocal chats, or look up player's records. Some things are different from Microsoft's service. A large asset to Nintendo's online servce (which doesn't have an official name yet) will be the ability to play current LAN anabled games via <Tunneling> (well known to do-it-yourself'ers). This will give developers a way to offer an online mode for a lower cost and it would seem that Ubi Soft will be the first to use this online mode with the next Rainbow 6 and Splinter Cell Pandora Tomorrow. There is a slight possibility that you could use the GBA Player with this service as well. It would be then possible to simulate a GBA-link and play on the internet...practical for Pokemon games.
It's odd that Nintendo seems to have changed their opinion suddenly, especially since the Gamecube is near the end of its life and the N5 being around the corner. Perhaps this service will play a larger role for future generations? In any case, people will greet the effort of this new service. We will, however, need to wait until E3 to see the definitive version on Nintendo online....to know the pricing policy and especially if there are Killer Apps for the service on the way (Pokemon Online has been a rumor that keeps popping up, and Mario 128 could be a candidate).
As always in this kind of situation, I will quote my friend Clara Morgane: "Wet and Sex."
-ZePOULPE
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At the time of DICE, Nintendo has led us to think that online is not in their agenda, but we announce a change pre-E3. Is it still time for a revolution?
A simple interface, but functional.
Will Zelda Four Swords be playable online? A mystery.
The Logitech headset is ergonomic and it's undeniable that it will be wireless
Mario Kart Double Dash!! will finally leave the ghetto(?) that are LAN parties!
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"Ubi Soft doesn't seem to be the only company ready to support Nintendo online. A young company called Level of Detail will have an 4-player adventure game in the same vein as FF:CC but with real-time combat. Watch out Zelda-4 Swords!"
I'd just like to know if it's a very good hoax or is it an extremely good news for all Cube gamers?
Post by: SuperLink666 on March 27, 2004, 06:46:20 AM
Post by: thecubedcanuck on March 27, 2004, 06:50:47 AM
Post by: SuperLink666 on March 27, 2004, 06:52:53 AM
And looking at Logitech website i seen pics exactly like that headset.. I think it was photo shopped
Post by: Chongman on March 27, 2004, 07:21:51 AM
that...just...sounds...fake...
but i can't helpe but be hopeful...because i'm dumb like that....*squeals like little girl*
geist online! pikmin 2 online! MK DD online! custom robo online! pokemon online! animal crossing 2 online! star fox online! mario 128 online! phantasy star no longer alone!
*drools* i'm happy with nintendo right now, but really...if they did this i'd spasm.
but yeah, we know its 99.9999999999% fake...so oh well
Post by: SuperLink666 on March 27, 2004, 07:38:35 AM
Also would like to add, maybe that is why we are seeing the huge memory card coming out very soon.. to store info like Buddy Lists.. 250 blocks is fine for most people but 1000 is enough to store so much data..
Post by: mouse_clicker on March 27, 2004, 07:46:10 AM
Cubed: If you want to get into an argument with me over thise, be a bit more direct.
Post by: theRPGFreak on March 27, 2004, 08:58:14 AM
Post by: PaLaDiN on March 27, 2004, 09:21:38 AM
It's not all it's cracked up to be. You'd think people would have figured this out by now.
Post by: SuperLink666 on March 27, 2004, 09:33:32 AM
Post by: WuTangTurtle on March 27, 2004, 10:06:49 AM
I own Xbox live and i hardly use it ever!
ppl playing online are either really mean or have issues, some ppl are really cool but most competitive games will have too many video game jocks.
If online gaming is ever gonna really revoultionalize gaming it needs some more games that are not about direct competition.
Online RPGs would be a better route, Zelda, Pokemon. Enough with all the FPS.
Post by: SuperLink666 on March 27, 2004, 10:44:58 AM
Post by: John Cena on March 27, 2004, 11:41:10 AM
Post by: thecubedcanuck on March 27, 2004, 11:49:51 AM
LOL, I was only referring to your penchant for "online" discussions, nothing more.
Post by: SuperLink666 on March 27, 2004, 01:24:17 PM
If you look at the picture of the guy standing there with the GC online screen look.. the GC controller doenst look plugged in, there is no GC, he isnt wearing a headset and is in the 'Voice Chat' portion of the setup..
how odd
Post by: John Cena on March 27, 2004, 01:53:15 PM
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Post by: John Cena on March 27, 2004, 01:58:31 PM
Post by: theRPGFreak on March 27, 2004, 02:23:05 PM
Go play FFXl and then well talk
Post by: BlkPaladin on March 27, 2004, 03:04:22 PM
Post by: DrZoidberg on March 27, 2004, 04:20:24 PM
Post by: Draygaia on March 27, 2004, 04:26:23 PM
Post by: Chongman on March 27, 2004, 05:02:20 PM
Is it just me or is there a lot of nintendo rumors that are flying around the net as of late?
I hope there's some truth to them...if anything, gamecube is the most talked about console it seems :-P
Post by: The Omen on March 27, 2004, 05:21:02 PM
nline. Is there a quicker way to get 1 million Nintendo-ites online than Super smash bros? I think not....
Post by: Rich on March 27, 2004, 06:15:50 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on March 27, 2004, 06:46:48 PM
Yes, the experienced people are one factor online games aren't that much fun, you'll hit people who know every last exploit in the game and just completely waste you every time you encounter them. This isn't much of a factor in MMOGs that don't involve PvP, but those usually demand money. And teamplay. I mean, yes, you can play cooperative against bots, but why go online when you're fighting the same old AI you fought offline and the only difference is your teammates won't do what you tell them?
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 27, 2004, 08:17:58 PM
off-topic: how do you find out who owns a web site domain?
GamecubeOnline.net
NintendoOnline.net
Post by: Deguello on March 27, 2004, 10:33:55 PM
I disagree. While the ability to have opponents all the time may be convenient, the fact of the matter is that Online features are either multiplayer or useless downloads (extra levels, why not include it to begin with?/ PATCHES ARE EVIL.) It is, in fact, the MULTIPLAYER aspect that is giving the game longevity.
" You need to find a group of people to play with. I have a large group of people I play rainbow six 3 with and none are mean and just play for fun but are also really good. None cheat and all can host good servers so its great to have people to play with always.."
That kinda contradicts that whole "Find anyone on earth to play games against" idea, because why not just seacrh out people in your area to play games with? If ound that to be easier, and cheaper.
"Go play FFXl and then well talk"
Oh God Ugh Ack ugh. Fight monsters to level up to fight more monsters. Make it STOP.
Post by: PaLaDiN on March 27, 2004, 11:48:57 PM
I stand by my statement, it's not all it's cracked up to be.
Finding someone you know to play against on the same TV or on a LAN is WAY better. It's not even close.
Post by: The Omen on March 28, 2004, 04:12:04 AM
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Finding someone you know to play against on the same TV or on a LAN is WAY better. It's not even close.
And having an online option would change all that?
Post by: Renny on March 28, 2004, 04:49:29 AM
Post by: Draygaia on March 28, 2004, 11:07:24 AM
Post by: theRPGFreak on March 28, 2004, 11:25:12 AM
Post by: mouse_clicker on March 28, 2004, 03:17:04 PM
Post by: Ian Sane on March 28, 2004, 04:02:20 PM
One thing I do find interesting is that it mentions specifically Nintendo of America as if they want to go online and are going to find a way to make it happen with or without the coopertion of NCL. That's what I interpreted anyway. The whole thing just sounds like them making an official warp pipe style solution for LAN games. In that way it actually sounds like a realistic solution. But then there's talk of Four Sword online support and all sorts of unrealistic stuff that just kills it. People have to learn that when making a hoax make it really sound realistic and resist throwing in anything that's too good to be true.
"That's why I dont understand the whole link cable thing! Did Nintnedo ever think when making Four Swords that not everyone has three extra GBAs, 3 link cables, and three other people ready to play when you are? With online gaming you can play anyone anywhere."
I agree. How is that any easier than setting up an online game? Oh but we're forgetting that with this method Nintendo gets to sell four GBAs and four cables. That's the REAL reason they're favouring this connectivity junk. It's to sell GBAs and nothing more. Online isn't proprietary and thus doesn't let Nintendo sell as much product.
I'm REALLY tired of people telling me that online play sucks so therefore we shouldn't care about it. Um, just because YOU don't like it doesn't mean that I won't and there's nothing wrong with giving people options. I mean I don't like sports games but I don't think the Cube shouldn't have any. A good console provides variety. Forcing the userbase to only go with one option all the time is a big part of the reason why the Cube hasn't amounted to much.
I don't think Nintendo will ever go online with the Cube. It won't make a difference now anyways and I don't imagine they would support it just to be nice to the people who want it. The N5 will be the console where Nintendo goes online. They used this generation to see what options the competition would go with to see what works best with the intention of introducing a "better" solution with the N5. Or at least that's what I hope they're doing. Online play will be a REQUIRED feature next gen and they'll get creamed if they have no plans. But then NCL seems to be run by total loons these days so who knows what they'll do. For all we know the N5 controller will have only one button.
Post by: mouse_clicker on March 28, 2004, 04:07:10 PM
Post by: Ian Sane on March 28, 2004, 04:11:19 PM
How so?
Post by: Mario on March 28, 2004, 04:18:28 PM
Post by: mouse_clicker on March 28, 2004, 04:22:11 PM
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and i doubt they would take a loss to provide online gaming just to make gamers happy.
I won't counter this at all- I've already stated my thoughts on the subject- but I love how you guys make these completely implausible claims, offer no support or evidence to back yourself up, and then expect everyone to agree with you.
Post by: Ian Sane on March 28, 2004, 04:27:48 PM
Well my name does suggest I'm insane.
But what actual part of my post sounded impractical? I'm not insulted or anything I'm just curious.
Post by: mouse_clicker on March 28, 2004, 04:36:43 PM
Post by: Mario on March 28, 2004, 04:46:20 PM
I'm getting a bit annoyed at Nintendo myself, because they aren't providing me with enough quality lately, maybe it's just this current first party game drought talking, but i'm drifting further away from Nintendo games and closer to other consoles by the day. I really hope Nintendo restore my faith at E3, but i'm doubtful. Oh well, I will wait. Nintendo has made me comfortable with long waits.
If Nintendo announced a Pokemon game that was online i would explode in tears of joy, but hey, the chances of that happening aren't very good, so i'll just stop hoping and go play something else.
Post by: Ian Sane on March 28, 2004, 04:48:26 PM
Post by: mouse_clicker on March 28, 2004, 04:50:52 PM
Ian: But why are you almost always negative? You give the impression that those are the only thoughts going through your head, bad ones. Just because this is a forum is no excuse to constantly be negative- I'm positive half the time and negative half the time, and I've found that's the perfect balance. You seem to always weed out the good things and foucs on the bad things. Why?
Post by: Berny on March 28, 2004, 05:56:20 PM
I have a question for all ye posters regarding online gaming. Is it not more fun to be in a room with a group of friends and playing a game? I don't know about you but I have so many memories and jokes created from hours and hours burned away on Mario Party 4 and Super Smash Bros Melee. I wouldn't have those if I'd been playing online. It's not the same to me. Obviously you are entitled to your own opinion, but I believe that online gaming takes away from the multiplayer experience.
Post by: Ian Sane on March 28, 2004, 07:06:41 PM
I think so too. Playing with friends in the same room is a blast. However my friends and I aren't together as a group all of the time so online play would let me play with them more often. When they come over we would play together of course but when not everone is around we can play too. Think of online play not as a replacement for four player multiplayer but rather as an addition to it. It's just another way to play with your friends. Plus I can play with you guys on the forum with online play. I can't do that otherwise. Online play isn't all playing with strangers.
"Ian: But why are you almost always negative?"
Beats me. How should I know? I'm not actively trying to be negative or anything.
Post by: Rich on March 29, 2004, 10:26:05 AM
Post by: theRPGFreak on March 29, 2004, 03:03:18 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 29, 2004, 03:41:41 PM
Post by: Berny on March 29, 2004, 06:31:37 PM
Basically, I don't see online play as a way of playing with friends when they can't be there. I see it as playing against computers with different skill levels.
Post by: AMac2002 on March 29, 2004, 07:01:57 PM
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Originally posted by: Berny
As I said before, I do not have any interest in playing online. It seems to anonymous. As much as I'd like to Smash or Kart you guys to death, I don't think I'd like to do it online. What would I gain from that? I'd see your character do some cool stuff, but I really would not learn anything about the person behind Bowser.
I don't understand that statement at all. Are you doing a character study, or playing video games?
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It might as well be just another computer I'm playing against. Surely a smarter and more alert computer, but AI is getting better and better and the difference is hard to tell.
No it's not. Not even close. I could see for something simple like a racing game, but for team strategy games, or really... any other game... no the AI is nowhere near that of a human.
Part of the fun of online games is going into a game with complete strangers and having to work together to accomplish a goal. You'd be surprised how cool of a feeling it is when doing that works really well, and you probably won't hesitate to add him to some form of a friends list.
Post by: Berny on March 29, 2004, 07:09:27 PM
I am not doing a character study. My point was that multiplayer games were meant to bring people together, not to get them to play in their basements alone with only friends' text to keep them company. That's why I am beginning to like what CC did with the Gameboy while staying offline.
Post by: KDR_11k on March 30, 2004, 01:36:14 AM
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Post by: Pale on March 31, 2004, 04:08:03 PM
Post by: AMac2002 on March 31, 2004, 06:50:16 PM
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I don't really care about playing games online. I think the whole idea is just plain stupid. Multiplayer is good enough for me. But that's just my opinion.
Yeah I know a lot of ppl who share your view, and there's nothing wrong with that. Hell I prolly enjoy playing with friends in the same room a bunch more than online. It's just there not always here, so online is cool too, for me atleast.
