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Title: Bigger GameCube Memory Cards Might be on the Way
Post by: StrikerObi on March 22, 2004, 04:16:19 PM
For those of you who need even more space for your game saves.

According to Game Informer, Nintendo is planning on releasing a new official memory card for the GameCube. This new card will weigh in at more four times the size of the Memory Card 251. This card will hold 1019 blocks of memory. Finally, enough room to save a ton of Madden data.


This new card is rumored to have a release sometime this spring season. Keep in mind that the card has not been officially announced and there is no price set yet.

Title: RE:Bigger GameCube Memory Cards Might be on the Way
Post by: Eminem on March 22, 2004, 04:36:50 PM
I guess that's good for people who need the room. I still have a new memory card from Christmas that I haven't even used yet. Maybe some games in the future will require more space that these new cards will be needed.
Title: RE:Bigger GameCube Memory Cards Might be on the Way
Post by: anubis6789 on March 22, 2004, 05:02:00 PM
Hmmm... I just bought my 3rd 251( I also have 3 59's if you count my AC one) because I was runing out of room and didn't want to delete anything. Wish I had waited a little longer.

If this is true though I wonder what color they will be and if they will be the same size as the other 2 memory cards denominations.  
Title: RE: Bigger GameCube Memory Cards Might be on the Way
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 22, 2004, 05:08:56 PM
@$#&^^$^!#^@$$$@#@$%^$

It's about time.

And I expect they'll remain the same size, since modern miniaturization seems to be very efficient these days.  I have a 59 and a 251, and I've had to re-organize/delete data on many occasions.
Title: RE: Bigger GameCube Memory Cards Might be on the Way
Post by: Bloodworth on March 22, 2004, 05:38:54 PM
I still have an open 59 lying around from when I got my second 251. I have like seven cards though:
two US 251s
Animal Crossing 59
two Japanese 59s
a Doshin 59
and the blank 59.
Title: RE: Bigger GameCube Memory Cards Might be on the Way
Post by: ruby_onix on March 22, 2004, 05:41:25 PM
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This new card will weigh in at more four times the size of the Memory Card 251. This card will hold 1019 blocks of memory.


For those who didn't know, the MC59 was 1/2 of a megabyte (four megabits). The MC251 is two megabytes, which is four times as big. But you can fit more than four times as much stuff on an MC251. A "59" times four should only be "236", not "251", right?

How does it work? Add "5" to each card. The MC59 is really a 64. The MC251 is really a 256. The math works when you do that.

This new MC-1019 is really a 1024. Something on these cards takes up 5 blocks (and index, or format, or something like that). The bigger the card you get, the less of an effect that will have (compared to just using multiple cards).

(BTW, this new card will be 8 megabytes, the same size as the memory card used by the PS2, which Sony has been rumored to lose money on for a long time now.)

What color do you think it'll be? The 59 was the white plasic from the front of the GCN. The 251 was the same black plastic as the Jet GameCube. What's next? Indigo? Platinum? Spice?
Title: RE: Bigger GameCube Memory Cards Might be on the Way
Post by: Ian Sane on March 22, 2004, 05:55:48 PM
It's about time.  I've managed to make due with one 251 card so far (the 59 I bought at launch is now used for my brother's Animal Crossing save) but I'm seriously running out of room and with Pokemon Colosseum coming out soon I think I'm going to have to delete some of the old rental game saves I have on my card.  I hope they release this soon because I would hate to have to buy a new 251 card because of necessity only to have this bigger card come out.

Hopefully Nintendo will learn from this experience and release a decent sized card from the get go for the N5.
Title: RE: Bigger GameCube Memory Cards Might be on the Way
Post by: Shecky on March 22, 2004, 05:57:24 PM
Don't forget clear, N. likes to think that's a separate color.... (if you ask me there were only 3 colors for the standard controller at launch) - Actually I'm quite happy with the Interact 8Mb card.... does have this occational habbit of scaring me a few times and looking totally blank in the internal memory card browser though...  
Title: RE:Bigger GameCube Memory Cards Might be on the Way
Post by: Shecky on March 22, 2004, 06:01:41 PM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
Hopefully Nintendo will learn from this experience and release a decent sized card from the get go for the N5.


Or maybe we'll actually see the SD adapter by then :rolleyes:
Title: RE:Bigger GameCube Memory Cards Might be on the Way
Post by: mouse_clicker on March 22, 2004, 06:02:00 PM
I let my friend borrow a few of my Gamecube games recently and in return he gave me a memory card 251 (he got like 5 for Christmas). In addition I have another memory card 251 and three memory card 59's, including my Animal Crossing one. Needless to say I'm set for quite a while.  
Title: RE: Bigger GameCube Memory Cards Might be on the Way
Post by: Berny on March 22, 2004, 06:07:49 PM
I have 3 blocks left on my 2 59s so I am overjoyed.
for doing this Ninty
for not doing this from the start
Title: RE:Bigger GameCube Memory Cards Might be on the Way
Post by: anubis6789 on March 22, 2004, 06:10:33 PM
I think that "missing" 5 blocks on the memory cards actually hold the formating data. Does anyone know for sure?

 
Title: RE:Bigger GameCube Memory Cards Might be on the Way
Post by: JB on March 23, 2004, 12:18:43 AM
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Originally posted by: ruby_onix
This new MC-1019 is really a 1024. Something on these cards takes up 5 blocks (and index, or format, or something like that). The bigger the card you get, the less of an effect that will have (compared to just using multiple cards).


The file index table of the filesystem used on the memory card is what uses up the 5 blocks. The size of this table is also what stops you from putting more than 128 saves on a single memory card, because the name of the save, the aniimated icon and the banner also have to be stored within these 5 blocks.  
Title: RE:Bigger GameCube Memory Cards Might be on the Way
Post by: joshnickerson on March 23, 2004, 02:52:26 AM
Great, I was just about to go out and get a third party card for all my Mario Kart and 1080 ghosts and replays, but now I can just wait for the official one.
Title: RE: Bigger GameCube Memory Cards Might be on the Way
Post by: KDR_11k on March 23, 2004, 05:17:06 AM
I can fit all of my saves (20 games) on one 251...
Title: RE: Bigger GameCube Memory Cards Might be on the Way
Post by: RareWare on March 23, 2004, 06:00:16 AM
And I just bought two 1019 interact ones...  darn....  Oh well, it was only $20.
Title: RE:Bigger GameCube Memory Cards Might be on the Way
Post by: Kairon on March 23, 2004, 08:12:29 AM
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(BTW, this new card will be 8 megabytes, the same size as the memory card used by the PS2, which Sony has been rumored to lose money on for a long time now.)


Hmmm... so you mean to say that Nintendo released smaller-sized cards in order to not lose a deal of money for each card they sell?

Interesting... and I thought that they did so because they were simply behind the times...

Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Bigger GameCube Memory Cards Might be on the Way
Post by: kovu_br on March 23, 2004, 09:37:57 AM
I do hope they release it soon, my 251 memory card just ran out of space.
Title: RE:Bigger GameCube Memory Cards Might be on the Way
Post by: Renny on March 23, 2004, 12:22:06 PM
Since only one game supports the SD now anyway, I wouldn't count on it for future game saves. Maybe the next Zelda will be released 6 months before the N5 and require it,  but until then the best we'll get is 8MB I guess.

As for the color, clear seems like a good possibility. Hori already makes "officially liscenced" Indigo, Silver, Jet and Spice 251s. So unless they use different colors than Japan it would have to be clear, or maybe Emerald. :¬]
Title: RE:Bigger GameCube Memory Cards Might be on the Way
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on March 23, 2004, 01:56:25 PM
For the price of a PS2 memory card, I really doubt Sony ever lost money on them.  Those things sold for $35 at launch.
Title: RE: Bigger GameCube Memory Cards Might be on the Way
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 23, 2004, 02:28:35 PM
It should be pink...Why?...'Cause I say so...
Title: RE: Bigger GameCube Memory Cards Might be on the Way
Post by: Deguello on March 23, 2004, 02:45:35 PM
I expect EA Sports save files to expand to 900 blocks.  Because, just in case you didn't know... EA is bloatware.
Title: RE:Bigger GameCube Memory Cards Might be on the Way
Post by: ThePerm on March 23, 2004, 03:07:40 PM
i have a 251, 2 mc59, and 1 ac mc59, and an interact 8mb card. I dont use the huge one much but when i run out of space on my 251 then i'll just shift data from the 251 to the 8mb card..the 8mb card voerheats so i dont use itfor play...just storage.
Title: RE: Bigger GameCube Memory Cards Might be on the Way
Post by: Berny on March 23, 2004, 03:51:31 PM
Your 8MB overheats?! o_O Actually, that's hilarious. I want 4 of these on my desk by noon! Get on it!
*wants to play Harvest Moon and Twin Snakes*
Title: RE: Bigger GameCube Memory Cards Might be on the Way
Post by: ruby_onix on March 23, 2004, 04:10:13 PM
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For the price of a PS2 memory card, I really doubt Sony ever lost money on them. Those things sold for $35 at launch.


I'm not 100% certain, but I remember hearing, about a year or two in, that Sony cranked the MSRP on the up to something crazy like $45, but a bunch of retailers said that their customers wouldn't pay that much, and refused to get more stock from Sony at that price (which caused a small shortage, letting other retailers get away with charging the $45 price), and then a month later, Sony quietly knocked the price back down to $35.

I think I was reading about it as it happened in the GameSpot letter columns, where some retailers were venting. I think that's where it was. It was quite a while ago. I can hardly remember it.

It could be that Sony was just being greedy. But some people were speculating that it was a money-loser, and Sony was hoping to fix that. But again, I'm not an expert. That's just what I heard.
Title: RE: Bigger GameCube Memory Cards Might be on the Way
Post by: Ian Sane on March 23, 2004, 05:40:06 PM
"I expect EA Sports save files to expand to 900 blocks. Because, just in case you didn't know... EA is bloatware."

I guess you could describe EA as the console equivalent of Microsoft.  Except that Microsoft is the console equivalent of Microsoft.

How much of the PS2 memory cards do EA Sports games take up?  I imagine it would be comparable.

I think the ideal thing for Nintendo to do with the N5 is just use SD cards for saves.  No adapter, just straight out SD ports on the console and people can buy whatever size they want.  By then I assume the smaller cards will be easily affordable.  Best of all by using SD cards it would make it easy for people to store saves on their PC or trade saves over the internet.  But then maybe I should shut-up in case Nintendo is reading this as they would probably not like the idea of people storing saves on PCs for whatever reason.
Title: RE:Bigger GameCube Memory Cards Might be on the Way
Post by: Kyosho on March 23, 2004, 05:45:48 PM
thank god, I was gonna go out and pick up that Interact 16x.  I read some reviews on that, and it was pretty bad.  I hate how these sports game require these insane memory requirements.  I picked up MVP baseball, and it says it needs 160 blocks for franchise (which I have on my 251) but for some reason it won't let me save.  Any ETA when this is coming out? I've only been playing the quick games lol
Title: RE:Bigger GameCube Memory Cards Might be on the Way
Post by: nickmitch on March 23, 2004, 06:32:43 PM
I fell kind of left out because I had 2 59's and then I bought the interact 16x and I'm still not out of room for my 31 games and I also have the limited edition AR with the 16x card so I've been set for life for a while now...
Title: RE: Bigger GameCube Memory Cards Might be on the Way
Post by: Mario on March 24, 2004, 12:05:21 AM
Oh god damnit, my 59 is full and my 251 has like 6 blocks left, and i have to get a new 251 in the next week, why can't this new memory card be out NOW. My feelings for Nintendo have been very negative lately... argh.

WHY DUN GCN HAV HARDDRIVE LETS ALL BUY AN XBOX
Title: RE: Bigger GameCube Memory Cards Might be on the Way
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on March 24, 2004, 12:08:02 AM
I have 2 59s (one I got w/ AC) and a 251.  A 59 and 251 are nearly full (I use the 59 for backup) and the other 59 is free.

But I had to delete my Pikmin save ages ago when I only had a 59.

I'm glad Nintendo is finally getting around to releasing a bigger MC.  Chances are I won't need one.
Title: RE: Bigger GameCube Memory Cards Might be on the Way
Post by: Rich on March 27, 2004, 11:17:14 AM
Oh man lets see I have 3 251s and then 4 59s including my Animal crossing card. The reason for all the cards is because I have two younger siblings who each want their own season in Madden. Unless I buy a game that needs over 251 then I'm not gonna bother picking this up. Two of my 59 cards are empty.
Title: RE: Bigger GameCube Memory Cards Might be on the Way
Post by: ThePerm on March 27, 2004, 11:21:35 AM
hmm, if they decide to not rerlease tyhe sd adapter here..then maybe they'll release mc1000s for animal crossign 2
Title: RE:Bigger GameCube Memory Cards Might be on the Way
Post by: Metroid masked on March 28, 2004, 12:06:12 AM
bout time but i hope this isnt one of the new killer acessories for the cube.
Title: RE: Bigger GameCube Memory Cards Might be on the Way
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 29, 2004, 07:48:26 AM
It's set for June 8th at a price of 30 dollars...
Title: RE: Bigger GameCube Memory Cards Might be on the Way
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 29, 2004, 05:08:43 PM
Do I get this new fat card, or do I get the GameSaves Memory Manager? HMMMMMMMM
Title: RE: Bigger GameCube Memory Cards Might be on the Way
Post by: Berny on March 31, 2004, 05:52:30 PM
June 8th. 30 Washingtons. (spelling intentional) Hm. I don't think I can wait that long. Although it will be summer and I will have a job.
Title: RE:Bigger GameCube Memory Cards Might be on the Way
Post by: Oldskool on April 01, 2004, 03:22:13 AM
Unfortunatly, the key word here is "might".
Title: RE:Bigger GameCube Memory Cards Might be on the Way
Post by: Shecky on June 10, 2004, 08:17:37 PM
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Originally posted by: Shecky
Don't forget clear, N. likes to think that's a separate color.... (if you ask me there were only 3 colors for the standard controller at launch) - Actually I'm quite happy with the Interact 8Mb card.... does have this occational habbit of scaring me a few times and looking totally blank in the internal memory card browser though...


If the picture on the demo disk is to be believed .... the new cards are white.... err polar ..... err artic....err whatever N likes to call #FFFFFF

So grey, black, white