Post by: KDR_11k on March 08, 2004, 06:22:12 AM
A mother is blaming Nintendo for epileptic seizures her child suffered while playing video games. She demands big warnings on the box, in the manual and on the screen while playing and some more insane stuff.
If you ask me, Nintendo should reply with "WTF? RTFM, N00B!" or at least add a big, flashing warning to the startup screens of their games "Warning!! May cause epilepsy!!" (flashing black and white so everybody sees it
).
Post by: The Omen on March 08, 2004, 06:27:19 AM
That article may give me a seizure...of anger
Post by: nitsu niflheim on March 08, 2004, 07:26:30 AM
Post by: KnowsNothing on March 08, 2004, 09:04:35 AM
Post by: mouse_clicker on March 08, 2004, 10:19:48 AM
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/!\ WARNING: PEOPLE WHO ARE PHOTOSENSITIVE (HAVE HAD SEIZURES INDUCED BY FLASHING LIGHTS OR PATTERNS) SHOULD NOT PLAY VIDEO GAMES WITHOUT FIRST SEEING A DOCTOR.
Nintendo, I believe, requires these warnings on the back of all Gamecube game boxes, regardless of whether it's 1st part or not. To the best of my knowledge, neither Sony nor Microsoft require such warnings. 'Nuff said.
Post by: StrikerObi on March 08, 2004, 11:47:13 AM
Post by: Uglydot on March 08, 2004, 12:49:40 PM
Post by: ThePerm on March 08, 2004, 12:50:01 PM
Post by: Draygaia on March 08, 2004, 12:55:51 PM
Post by: vudu on March 08, 2004, 01:03:19 PM
Quotecan anyone confirm of deny this comment?
To the best of my knowledge, neither Sony nor Microsoft require such warnings.
Post by: vudu on March 08, 2004, 01:04:27 PM
Post by: Hostile Creation on March 08, 2004, 01:09:20 PM
Kids with epilepsy should play basketball.
Post by: Draygaia on March 08, 2004, 01:18:51 PM
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Originally posted by: kingvudu
btw, anyone know what game the kid was playing when he had the seizure?
It would be funny if it was a robot game with some Japanese anouncer in saying stuff in Japanese and everything gets crazy like the Simpsons episode where they went to Japan.
Post by: mouse_clicker on March 08, 2004, 01:50:51 PM
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The family is suing Nintendo because they do not thinking the warnings Nintendo currently uses comply with federal law.
Like I said, the box is outline in bright red, and is even above the content rating, which every parent should look for when buying a game for their child.
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can anyone confirm of deny this comment?
I think it's safe to assume so- quite literally every one of my Gamecube games has the exact same warning in the exact same spot, 1st and 3rd party alike. Conversely, none of my PS2 games have such a warning, regardless of affiliation, and to the best of my knowledge XBox game cases do not sport the warning either, although I could be wrong. This raises the question of why is this lady suing Nintendo when at the very least Sony (I guarantee you more people are playing PS2 games than Gamecube games) doesn't have a warning at all, while Nintendo apparently requires them?
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 08, 2004, 02:06:25 PM
Nope, they don't...
Suing Nintendo over seizures is like suing McDonalds for getting fat...Oh wait, someone already has...I hate the justice system, and I hate people in general...
Post by: yellowfellow on March 08, 2004, 02:45:03 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 08, 2004, 03:03:38 PM
Post by: ThePerm on March 08, 2004, 03:10:15 PM
Post by: ib2kool4u912 on March 08, 2004, 03:28:16 PM
Post by: Berny on March 08, 2004, 05:14:39 PM
Post by: Termin8Anakin on March 09, 2004, 02:31:36 AM
Because surely if Nintendo does everything it can to say that games can cause seizures, short of replacing box art altogether for warning labels, MS and Sony are more to blame.
I would so laugh if there actually IS a game based on the 'hit' series 'Super Seizure Robots!!!!!'
Hahahaha!!
Post by: KDR_11k on March 09, 2004, 05:26:29 AM
However, that's none of their video games.
Maybe the mother thought Nintendo is a small company and doesn't have strong lawyers to defend itself.
Post by: ThePerm on March 09, 2004, 05:59:51 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on March 09, 2004, 06:12:35 AM
It has nothing to do with stupidity but more with corruption and greed. People sue about everything they can regardless of how dumb it might seem because they hope they can benefit from their own goof up.
I know that if I suffered a seizure from playing a game I would just, you know, not play that game anymore. But I'm a responsible person who admits his mistakes. If I suffered from epilepsy I would be extremely careful about it and if there were warnings anywhere (and there were) I would have read them.
I had to go to a physiotherapist because after playing my GBA for several hours I aggravated a neck injury to the point that nerves in my shoulder were spazing. I didn't sue Nintendo for it because it's common sense to not play that long when you have neck problems. I made a mistake and Nintendo shouldn't have to pay for it.
Post by: cubefreak123 on March 10, 2004, 04:05:49 PM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"This sorta thing happens all the time. This is why McDonald's has to TELL you that your coffee is hot. People are so dumb."
It has nothing to do with stupidity but more with corruption and greed. People sue about everything they can regardless of how dumb it might seem because they hope they can benefit from their own goof up.
I know that if I suffered a seizure from playing a game I would just, you know, not play that game anymore. But I'm a responsible person who admits his mistakes. If I suffered from epilepsy I would be extremely careful about it and if there were warnings anywhere (and there were) I would have read them.
I had to go to a physiotherapist because after playing my GBA for several hours I aggravated a neck injury to the point that nerves in my shoulder were spazing. I didn't sue Nintendo for it because it's common sense to not play that long when you have neck problems. I made a mistake and Nintendo shouldn't have to pay for it.
my thoughts exactly. This world is after one thing, money, and parents will look for the stupidest reasons to get money. That and its telling there kids that its not there fault when in reality IT IS!!. If i skated on my schools property and i broke my arm, my parents would say "its your own fault deal with it" they wouldnt freaking sue the school. Not there fault that i broke my arm there, its my fault that i fell.
Post by: Ghost_of_a_Flea on March 13, 2004, 02:06:24 AM
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Some people (about 1 in 4000) may have seizures or blackouts triggered by light flashes, such as while watching TV or playing video games, even if they have never had a seizure before.
Anyone who has had a seizure, loss of awareness, or other symptom linked to an epileptic condition should consult a doctor before playing a video game.
Parents should watch when their children play video games. Stop playing and consult a doctor if you or your child have any of the following symptoms:
Convulsions, Eye or muscle twitching, Loss of awareness
Altered Vision, Involuntary movements, Disorientation
To reduce the likelihood of a seizure when playing video games:
1. Sit or stand as far from the screen as possible.
2. Play video games on the smallest available television screen.
3. Do not play if you are tired or need sleep.
4. Play in a well-lit room.
5. Take a 10 to 15 minute break every hour.
These are repeated in the Precautions Booklet; so with the bright red warning label (easily visible before purchase) on each case, the warning is in each game no less than three times. Right next to the seizure warning on the case is another label, "Important! Read the instruction and precaution booklets before setup or use of your system." I don't see how you can blame a company because you didn't follow the warnings repeated throughout the product.
However, it has inspired me; I have a friend who is epileptic... I feel she needs to sue the city because there's no warning labels on trees. See, when riding in a car the sun coming through the trees combined with the motion of the vehicle creates a strobe effect that can put her into seizures. We feel that all trees should have large, visible warning labels, and if that doesn't remedy the problem they should issues a city-wide recall of all trees. Perhaps they should trim the trees according to their seizure risk?
I'm working on my own lawsuit, the hammer I recently bought didn't have a label saying it could be hazardous to one's health by dropping it on your toe; a warning should come with all hammers advising everyone to wear steel-toed boots.
Post by: manunited4eva22 on March 13, 2004, 05:32:46 AM
Post by: Zach on March 14, 2004, 04:51:01 PM
Sorry if I am ranting, but SOBs like this get me so P.O.ed
Post by: yellowfellow on March 14, 2004, 06:09:22 PM
this is the sorriest excuse for a cash grab since anna nicole smith's marriage to millionaire J. Howard Marshall II. The fact that he singled out the ONLY game/console developer that actually has warnings within it's instruction manuals makes me sick and leaves me feeling like there is no justice in this world.
i think parents need to take a more proactive stance with their childrens activities, not retroactive and this exploitation of sympathy generated by a child's misfortune is exactly the "after the fact" bitching and whining of the latter, which unfortunately seems to be characteristic of too many of the american public. read the goddamn booklets and caution your kids about what is appropriate. parents should be protectors and guides not kid's enforcers to battle injustice and save face when the real gross negligence was the parent's lack of initial involvement.
Post by: KDR_11k on March 14, 2004, 07:23:26 PM
You see: A kid playing a PS2.
The kid has a seizure and dies.
Tagline: "This could have been avoided with Nintendo products".
Hehehe...
Post by: Oldskool on March 17, 2004, 04:43:18 AM
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Post by: Draygaia on March 17, 2004, 01:48:09 PM
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Post by: oohhboy on March 19, 2004, 12:52:40 AM
Nintendo has meet and gone above what was required for them in the industry by having a bright red warning on the box and the booklet inside.
But the real problem hereis that law-suits are out of control in America. I could get off a plane and some one could slap a suit on me and I would be forced to fight it. Schools don't have play grounds anymor since school are too bloody scared of being sued. A lawyer with a suit is alot more dagerous than a gun right now and that's saying something. A gun might kill you, but a law suit might not kill you, but you might better off if you were.
Although it was the wrong thing for Nintendo to settle since they had more than even chance of winning the case, the negative PR wouldn't have one anybody any good. Boils down to media blackmail. What has that country come to...
Post by: slacker on March 19, 2004, 03:31:28 PM
Post by: oohhboy on March 20, 2004, 01:29:50 AM
It's like saying on a packet of food "Warning: This may make you fat and/or make you fart where there is a one in 500 million chance you have a blow-out causing extream pain and sexual disfunction".
I am all good for smokes having warning labels due to the fact that it has direct negative health effects to the smoker and the guy next to them. But getting a seizure from a game is not a direct affect. It is a trigger to a condition that was already present. They should have been glad that it didn't happen somewhere else mor critical.
I am against having such excessive warnings. You jump off a bridge of your own free will. You get hurt. Your going to sue the owner of the bridge, gravity, god?
The awarness thing relates back to he T.V. There will be patterns and lights. It is unavoidable. Same in the outside world. There are patterns and lights about the place. No warning labels there. But maybe this is a fundamental flaw of near pure capitailism. Far too much greed.
Post by: KDR_11k on March 20, 2004, 06:54:16 PM
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Originally posted by: oohhboy
Your going to sue the owner of the bridge, gravity, god?
Reminds me, have you seen "The man who sued God"?
Post by: oohhboy on March 21, 2004, 03:44:03 AM
Post by: Oldskool on March 22, 2004, 02:44:07 AM
I really want to sue some of these horrible people that sue, possibly ruining one or more mostly innocent persons life, or endangering lives, so that they can get a nice amount of cash for a ridicoulous reason. I understand sueing is appropriate in some situations, but nowadays in the US sueing is a form of long-term, non-violent looting and pillaging. If I ever get hold of some of these people force them to watch endless reruns of I Love Lucy. I AM MERCILESS!
Post by: ThePerm on March 22, 2004, 06:05:15 AM
Anyways our legal and medical programs here in america need serious reform. I mean there are laws where the punishment is more severe then the crime, there are still a ton of rascist laws that specifically target black americans, and of course as someone said medical care is rediculous.
Post by: ib2kool4u912 on March 23, 2004, 02:27:41 PM
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Post by: Berny on March 23, 2004, 05:22:33 PM
Post by: Myxtika1 Azn on March 24, 2004, 07:14:35 AM
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Originally posted by: ib2kool4u912
The people should have gone here to learn about epilepsy before sueing Nintendo.
I don't think that's funny. In fact, I think it's pretty damn dangerous as someone who's epileptic might click on that link. I suggest removing that link.
Post by: ib2kool4u912 on March 24, 2004, 09:33:49 AM
