Post by: Jonnyboy117 on March 04, 2004, 06:48:39 PM
Post by: Perfect Cell on March 04, 2004, 07:44:37 PM
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on March 04, 2004, 08:12:23 PM
PGC should use Louie more...
Post by: nemo_83 on March 05, 2004, 12:58:53 AM
I've never heard of a game able to pronounce a name. That is cool; maybe next gen we will be able to talk through Link and Mario using their voices to navigate through the games.
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 05, 2004, 01:21:02 AM
A real bummer about Navi's Trackers, though...I hope that one's false, because an extra game won't hurt anyone...
Post by: ruby_onix on March 05, 2004, 01:42:23 AM
That is SO not cool.
At the absolute minimum, they should just leave the Japanese version in the game, as a hidden Easter Egg.
People already say the GameCube disks are too small, and can't include bonus stuff.
BTW, I don't really care if this "Hyrule Adventure" has as big of a world as LttP, but does it have as many things to do in it? Does it have some sort of plot? A brand new, multiplayer, LttP-ish Zelda game would totally make me buy Four Swords Plus.
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 05, 2004, 01:45:55 AM
Well that's exactly what Hyrule Adventure is... ^_^
Post by: jmoe316 on March 05, 2004, 03:15:30 AM
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on March 05, 2004, 03:15:38 AM
Post by: Perfect Cell on March 05, 2004, 06:45:49 AM
and three game boys as well ... Meh...
It would be soo cool, if that new Mario RPG was made by Square and Fund Q. Heck, port the first one to the GBA, and have it connect some how i could care less. But a new Square Mario RPG would be even better than Kingdom Hearts
Post by: Ian Sane on March 05, 2004, 07:38:27 AM
You get the chance to play it with friends or the requirement? I mean FF: CC lets you play alone but it f*cking sucks in that situation. If this game is dull beyond belief with only one player then it isn't as big of a deal. I personally am not liking this current trend of mixing multiplayer with GBAs. Why not make a one player game that uses the GBA?
The removal of Navi's Trackers is kind of a bummer. I have ZERO interest in that game but if the Japanese are getting it why not us? Anyone else think it's interesting that Nintendo made a huge deal about all this connectivity crap at E3 and of those four titles shown one of them had to be given away with the purchase of another game (Pac-Man Vs) and another may not be released in North America? Maybe that will make Nintendo realize that connectivity is not as big of a deal as they think it is.
As for Mario RPG well if it's not made by Square I'm not going to be that interested. Paper Mario and Mario & Luigi are decent games but they're nowhere near as good as the original Super Mario RPG. I never had enough incentive to beat either of them and I know the trend will likely continue if Square isn't involved with the next one. Thus I probably won't bother to buy it. I find that the other Mario RPGs are way to simplified and thus come off as a little dull. Super Mario RPG wasn't very hard either but it was a happy medium between hardcore RPG and beginner fluff. The other two games are leaning too close to beginner fluff. You can't even level up worth sh!t in those games.
Post by: Bloodworth on March 05, 2004, 08:27:38 AM
As far as Zelda goes, I thought I had heard that you don't NEED a GBA, but it gives you an advantage if you have one. And yes you can play by yourself, I believe against bots.
Post by: WhereMyArm on March 05, 2004, 08:32:36 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 05, 2004, 08:59:07 AM
1) Was LttP dull in one-player? Stupid question, huh? -__-
2) There IS a standard one-player GBA adventure in the works right now, that's why...
"I really love the new GBA one and think it's a lot more entertaining and has really innovative gameplay."
Same...I really hope they incorporate the gameplay from M&L into the next RPG, because it truely was amazing...
"A new Mario RPG would be great, especially if Square Enix jumped on board."
Bah, Alpha Dream has shown Square it's age...
Post by: TheYoungerPlumber on March 05, 2004, 09:11:13 AM
That being said, I wouldn't be upset if Alpha Dream or Square made the next Mario RPG, but I'm secretly crossing my fingers for the Skies of Arcadia team ;-)
Post by: Ian Sane on March 05, 2004, 09:44:51 AM
Of course not. It was awesome. But it was a one player only game. A lot of the time games that are designed primarily with multiplayer in mind are really lame when played with one player. Thus there's some concern.
"Nintendo should continue the pattern of using a new developer with each Mario RPG. All three share some aspects, but overall all three stand on their own and are excellent in their own right. Each developer brings its own personality and talents to the table, and I love the individuality in the "series". Nintendo has a horde of developers to work with--surely more than a few would be interested in a Mario RPG."
I for the most part agree though I would love it if Square worked on the series again. When Paper Mario came out I accepted that it was a different developer because it was impossible at the time for Square to work on it. They are however available to work on it now and that's partially why it pissed me off that Alpha Dream was working on M&L. I thought of Intelligent Systems as an unfortunately required replacement. Nintendo obviously didn't think the same way.
I definitely do not want to see Alpha Team become the standard developer for Mario RPG games. M&L is in my opinion the worst of the three plus I really suck at all the timing stuff. I wanted to play an RPG not a rhythm game. So I agree with two options. Either change the developer every time OR go back to Square since they were the original developer. Like TYP said the Skies team would make a swank Mario RPG provided they didn't go with random battles like in Skies.
Post by: vudu on March 05, 2004, 09:46:11 AM
Quoteyou can hardly make that comparison. lttp was designed to be a single player game. so of course it wasn't dull to play by yourself. however, if a game is designed from the ground up to be a multiplayer game--such as ff:cc, or even q3a and the ut series (to a lesser extent)--the single player mode could be more of a chore than anything else. (not saying it will be, depends on how much effort the designers put into the game.)
1) Was LttP dull in one-player? Stupid question, huh? -__-
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 05, 2004, 11:14:41 AM
Well your lack of timing isn't a very good reason for hating the game...
Post by: nickmitch on March 05, 2004, 01:05:31 PM
Post by: Perfect Cell on March 05, 2004, 01:55:28 PM
Post by: joshnickerson on March 05, 2004, 03:15:47 PM
Post by: Djunknown on March 05, 2004, 04:04:27 PM
Anyway, I may have to pick up that Zelda title if its true. I'm probably one of the few mavericks who don't mind playing multi-player games by myself. But if the design is centered on a huge world where having other players is 'optional, but reccomended' as oppossed to 'if you don't have friends, don't bother', then it will be able to sell that much better.
P.S Will Louie get busy at E3?
Post by: KDR_11k on March 05, 2004, 07:59:17 PM
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on March 05, 2004, 09:39:16 PM
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Originally posted by: TheYoungerPlumber
That being said, I wouldn't be upset if Alpha Dream or Square made the next Mario RPG, but I'm secretly crossing my fingers for the Skies of Arcadia team ;-)
I would rather not. I love Sega Wow, but I would rather they work on a Skies sequel (if it will happen) than a Mario RPG...
Post by: Deguello on March 05, 2004, 10:34:46 PM
Quite the contrary.
I feel the timing-based attack and defense added that raw kind of gameplay and fun you see so seldom (read: NEVER) in other, lesser games. And it also rewards you for being good at it with the whole Advance Command business. It's a lot better than just smashing "Attack" and waiting.
Post by: Bloodworth on March 05, 2004, 11:13:47 PM
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P.S Will Louie get busy at E3?
You never know. The problem with Louie is you never know if he's gonna find a cat lover or someone that's gonna call Animal Control.
Post by: Ocarina Blue on March 06, 2004, 01:11:43 AM
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Originally posted by: Bloodworth
As far as Zelda goes, I thought I had heard that you don't NEED a GBA, but it gives you an advantage if you have one. And yes you can play by yourself, I believe against bots.
The Sutra.
I'm all with Mario PRG's being loaned out to different developers: I just want EAD to work on a few things... things that will get people really hyped up. I mean, Ninteno's games are fine right now, but there's a dwindling audience. No random gamer sat down and thought "Oh hey! It would be awsome if there was a handheld with two screens!", but so many people were genuinley excited about the Zelda demo show at that fateful Spaceworld show 4 years ago. Guess which one Nintendo decided to develop.
Yeah, Nintendo has to be innovative, I really couldn't agree more; but it seems like they're focusing all their attention on wild gambits. They're losing their reputation in the process.
Post by: Gibdo Master on March 07, 2004, 08:40:56 PM
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Another little tidbit about Four Swords Plus: it looks like Hyrule Adventure, the mode that plays like Link to the Past but with four players, is bigger than anyone expected. Apparently the world map is even bigger than the one in LttP!
I didn't think of this till today, but does that include both the Light World and Dark World? If they are comparing only the Light World then it wouldn't technically be twice the size of the ALttP map.
