Post by: Shift Key on February 10, 2004, 05:01:49 PM
Feel free to discuss the state of the WWE or just the good old days of Degeneration-X, or even further back if you can remember.
To start off: should they revive the hardcore belt, or the ladder matches? Those matches alone made for great viewing, better than a simple table match ;____;
And if you could revive a wrestler from the gutter to bring out next week, who would it be? My pick would be Mankind - not Mick Foley of the present, writing books and being spat on, but from the late 90s when he was the Hardcore champion.
And don't get me started about the shabby treatment Foxtel has given the WWE broadcasts ;________; + angst++
Post by: ThePerm on February 10, 2004, 05:08:18 PM
Post by: Termin8Anakin on February 10, 2004, 05:22:50 PM
Post by: Shift Key on February 11, 2004, 01:03:20 AM
...so much for all that angst! ;__;
Post by: akdaman1 on February 11, 2004, 11:47:46 PM
But to you Americans who watch the shows on Tuesdays or whatever...please dont spoil it for us livin in Australia. We get Raw on fridays and smackdown on Saturdays. So please dont spoil it.
And I believe The Rock should come back next week. ROCKY ROCKY ROCKY
Post by: Termin8Anakin on February 12, 2004, 01:54:52 AM
Wrestling, while fun to watch the hard-boiled ACTORS in the ring BATTLE it out for WORLD (
) champion wrestler or some crap, whilst listening to the OVER THE TOP commentary, is pretty much darn boring.The whole SPORT is fake, a multi-million dollar acting deal for those who couldn't act. I don't know why anyone watches it.
*punches Akdaman whilst stomping very hard on the floor, so that it sounds like a punch, to which Akdaman must fall down hard, breaking his back for real, whist holding his hand in pain like a pro soccer player would*
Post by: oohhboy on February 12, 2004, 05:17:51 AM
I mean it is funny as seeing grown men pretend to beat the crapper out of each other and getting hurt because they stuffed up. If anything else the Mexicans are the best to watch. They fight like they have nothing to lose but thier lives and probaly they don't care about that either.
Post by: Shift Key on February 12, 2004, 02:40:46 PM
It's like a soap opera, but for blokes, because it has motorbikes and cleavage and Mexican wrestlers you can't understand!
Post by: Ocarina Blue on February 12, 2004, 06:21:59 PM
I see it as an evolved form of the gladiators of Roman times.
Post by: akdaman1 on February 12, 2004, 08:54:05 PM
Who cares if its fake ? Would you really want men to throw each other off 15 foot cages in real life ?
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on February 12, 2004, 10:56:40 PM
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Originally posted by: akdaman1
Shoots AiAi with Assault Rifle ...repeatdly....and again ....and again....AiAi is dead ...
The Rock is legendary you jabroni. The Rock is gonna do to you exactly what he does best and thats layeth the smackadown on your roody poo CANDY ASSSS . If Ya Smell WHat the Rock ....is cookin.
The Rock, as a babyface, was nothing more than a catchphrase-spewing, four-move brawler that did nothing but took up time that Steve Blackman could have had.
Post by: Shift Key on February 13, 2004, 12:05:32 AM
Ocarina Blue: The WWE is the most popular because it entertains, not because its real. If you want a real sport without the drama, go watch EPSN or something. And people jabbing at them? Sure, there are wrestlers who are loathed by the fans, but that's part of all the entertainment. I'll give you the point that the women are stilll treated like objects, but its not as bad as it has been in the past *insert mud wrestling match here*.
A few friends and I gather for our ritual RAW nights on Tuesday nights still, even though it is on Friday nights now
and its still as funny as always. Its not the same as the old days of the Alliance and Degeneration-X (in my opinion the greatest era of the WWF * jumps into flame-retardant suit*) but its still fun to watch.Post by: akdaman1 on February 13, 2004, 10:27:20 AM
But Shifty is right , the days of the alliance and DX were awsome. What about the corporation eh ? When they would make Austins life a living hell , and Rock and his fueds with Triple H amd the Undertaker.
I find that todays wrestling aint as good because The McMahons aint there as often , and Austin and Rock have been out for quite some time.
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on February 13, 2004, 07:53:19 PM
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Originally posted by: akdaman1
I actually enjoy all the promos because they build up suspense for the matches.
True, they do, but they go for too long. Most of them can be done in half the time taken.
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Originally posted by: akdaman1
I find that todays wrestling aint as good because The McMahons aint there as often , and Austin and Rock have been out for quite some time.
Whoa! Why didn't someone tell me this sooner!?
Less McMahons on TV!? Awesome. I hate Stephanie's voice. Hardly no Austin and Rock!? Awesome X2!And Kurt Angle looks silly with his head shaved.
Post by: akdaman1 on February 13, 2004, 08:12:21 PM
Austin is still there , but he doesnt wrestle ...he is a sherrif who makes sure nothing goes wrong.
Rock should be returning in the next 2 weeks to lay the smackadown on Evoloution.
And Vince is the only McMahon on WWE.
Post by: oohhboy on February 14, 2004, 01:10:29 AM
Anyhow I had stopped watching myself way before that. Mostly the same reason, the over long promos, too much McMahonieness, too many matches that didn't finish with a winner or desended into a brawl, too many ugly chicks, not enough cool moves, not enough stuff breaking, too much uninspired talk(Mostly from the Rock). The list goes on.
I say bring on all the Mexicans. They are ALWAYS good to watch.
Post by: akdaman1 on February 14, 2004, 09:23:54 AM
Although these last few episodes of Raw and Smackadown ( except last nights Smackdown ) have been really good. Eddie Guerrero is the #1 contender for the title on Smackdown and Chris Beniot WAS supposed to be on Raw until Shawn Micheals screwd him up. ( Expect a triple threat for the title at Wrestlmania ).
Foley is back and he has a fued going with Randy Orton and the rest of Evoloution ( expect The Rock to come back soon and help Mick Foley even out the numbers ).
And ....who can forget the second greatest Wrestler along with Eddie G , CHRIS JERICO !!! Man this guy just keeps gettin better and better , hes matches are never ever boring and he has great mic skills. ''
And ....who can Forget about the Undertaker ? , he is COMING BACK ....as the Phenom , the gothic Taker. ( Y'knoe the one with the Micky Mouse tattoos and the 33 pound head.
WRESTLEMANIA 20 is gonna be AWSOME ...although this weeks No Way Out has a really WEAK CARD.
Post by: Shift Key on February 15, 2004, 01:14:38 AM
oohhboy: You're lucky you've missed the wrestling recently, because Chavo and Eddie Guerro have been fighting eachother for the last month
. Eddie won their match at Smackdown, and it looks like he's got a shot at the title at Wrestlemania.Akdaman: I wouldn't say Benoit has been screwed over with his title shot, but having two take on HHH is better than one. Hopefully Evolution don't interfere on this one *another
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Post by: akdaman1 on February 15, 2004, 08:53:41 AM
I have to say this weeks Smackdown was hopeless , one of the worst ever , and tonights PPV has a really weak card.
Post by: ThePerm on February 15, 2004, 08:54:44 AM
Post by: akdaman1 on February 16, 2004, 11:31:53 PM
Even though he is poppy , he still Rocks ( get it )
And yeh Jericho rocks ( get it )
Post by: akdaman1 on February 21, 2004, 08:01:34 PM
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on February 21, 2004, 11:24:54 PM
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Originally posted by: akdaman1
Although these last few episodes of Raw and Smackadown ( except last nights Smackdown ) have been really good. Eddie Guerrero is the #1 contender for the title on Smackdown and Chris Beniot WAS supposed to be on Raw until Shawn Micheals screwd him up. ( Expect a triple threat for the title at Wrestlmania ).
Foley is back and he has a fued going with Randy Orton and the rest of Evoloution ( expect The Rock to come back soon and help Mick Foley even out the numbers ).
Whoa, whoa, whoa!!!!!!
Shawn Micheals is back?! That is a surprise. And Foley too. He wanted to get completely away from wrestling a few years back. I can't believe Foley is wrestling again.
Post by: Shift Key on February 22, 2004, 12:48:27 AM
Foley is still more of a guest wrestler (because he's in a vendetta with Orton), but he did team up for a "Rock and Sock Connection" with you-know-who a while ago so perhaps he'll become an active roster member again?
I really don't believe your rumour about Rock returning, Akdaman - show me some proof, because I've heard nothing. If its at Wrestlemania, I'd be majorly surprised, because apart from the matches for the belts and the dead rising they're being very quiet about a supposed return of the Rock.
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on February 22, 2004, 12:51:23 AM
Post by: akdaman1 on February 22, 2004, 08:32:00 AM
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Originally posted by: Shifty
Michaels has been back for a while after his back injury, and they're playing the HHH vs Michaels / Soured Friendship card a lot on Raw.
Foley is still more of a guest wrestler (because he's in a vendetta with Orton), but he did team up for a "Rock and Sock Connection" with you-know-who a while ago so perhaps he'll become an active roster member again?
I really don't believe your rumour about Rock returning, Akdaman - show me some proof, because I've heard nothing. If its at Wrestlemania, I'd be majorly surprised, because apart from the matches for the belts and the dead rising they're being very quiet about a supposed return of the Rock.
Ya see , its all supposed to be a suprise , he is returning soon, I got no proof but I can tell you now that in 2 episodes time....the Brahma Bull returns.
Post by: blackfootsteps on February 22, 2004, 06:49:16 PM
Me I'd like to see Sting return, it's been too long without one of the best of all time. I don't watch much wrestling lately, I prefer to watch old tapes of Monday Nitro when wrestling was at its peak (for me).
Also what's this i hear about WWE giving Scott Hall another chance? Yay to the AA!
Post by: akdaman1 on February 22, 2004, 07:39:06 PM
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Originally posted by: blackfootsteps
Let's hope he does
Me I'd like to see Sting return, it's been too long without one of the best of all time. I don't watch much wrestling lately, I prefer to watch old tapes of Monday Nitro when wrestling was at its peak (for me).
Also what's this i hear about WWE giving Scott Hall another chance? Yay to the AA!
Actually WWE giving Scott Hall a chance is a rumor I havent heard...but I have been hearing Bret Hart to come by on Wrestlemania and say a goodbye speech.
Post by: blackfootsteps on February 23, 2004, 05:13:56 PM
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Originally posted by: akdaman1
...but I have been hearing Bret Hart to come by on Wrestlemania and say a goodbye speech.
A goodbye speech? That's one old rumour! That was supposed to happen last year wasn't it???? The return of Bret would be huge though, imagine a match with Shawn Micheals!
Post by: akdaman1 on February 23, 2004, 07:43:19 PM
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Originally posted by: blackfootstepsQuote
Originally posted by: akdaman1
...but I have been hearing Bret Hart to come by on Wrestlemania and say a goodbye speech.
A goodbye speech? That's one old rumour! That was supposed to happen last year wasn't it???? The return of Bret would be huge though, imagine a match with Shawn Micheals!
Nah dont expect any matches ...just a goodbye speech and some fireworks. And if it ever happens then this year is the best time for him to do it ...Wresltmaina XX ...the granddaddy of em all.
Post by: DrZoidberg on February 24, 2004, 04:37:45 AM
or create better characters that arn't generic tough man clones, needs more lollin'
Post by: akdaman1 on February 24, 2004, 08:54:10 AM
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Originally posted by: DrZoidberg
needs more hardcaw, and insanity, too many OH I AM BIG MAN BLERRAAAAAAGH type characters, bores me, bring back Al Snow, bring back Steve Blackman, cure Droz, restore Foley's youth, and i'll watch again.
or create better characters that arn't generic tough man clones, needs more lollin'
Your'e right on 1 thing, it need more hardcore , and I believe that very soon Paul Heyman will bring back the Hardcore title , I mean hid got Ryno and Hardcore Holly in a fued , 2 people who thrive for hardcore matches.
But do you know who the current champion is at the moment ? A 5 ft 9 Eddie Guerrero. WWE have started to back off the Big men trait , I mean they got Chris Benoit as one of the title contendors. Rey Myestirios popularity at the moment is through the roof and even Jericho is a crowd favourite.
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on February 25, 2004, 01:23:35 PM
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Originally posted by: blackfootsteps
A goodbye speech? That's one old rumour! That was supposed to happen last year wasn't it???? The return of Bret would be huge though, imagine a match with Shawn Micheals!
Fat chance of Bret wreslting with Shawn. Bret hates Shawn's guts.
AND YES, bring back Steve Blackman!
It's party time!
Post by: akdaman1 on February 25, 2004, 06:59:31 PM
I dont think he will stay for too long though , he will probaly leave right after Wresltmania XX.
Post by: blackfootsteps on February 26, 2004, 08:28:43 PM
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on February 26, 2004, 10:38:59 PM
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Originally posted by: blackfootsteps
and in the meantime he (The Rock) takes away someone elses slot for the show. What a waste.
This was perhaps the most intelligent post in this thread, so far!
Post by: akdaman1 on February 26, 2004, 11:06:31 PM
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Originally posted by: blackfootsteps
and in the meantime he (The Rock) takes away someone elses slot for the show. What a waste.
Apparently on people on the board dont like The Rock , because there are commercials of the Rock returning March 1st on Raw and after those ads were shown the show sold out. The Rock still has his MIllons and Millions of Rock fans.
Post by: Shift Key on February 27, 2004, 09:38:40 PM
QuoteBy your logic, that means we should all be Rock fans.
The Rock still has his MIllons and Millions of Rock fans.
I think you either love or loathe him (guess which one I am ^_____^) and that polarisation of fans certainly does well for the ratings as you point out. I loved his mini-fued with the Hurricane last year (the backstage banter of him telling Hurricane to "go get him some hamburgers" and the Hurricane telling him "the Scorpion King has a small ding-a-ling" was a highlight of the year).
But I don't think Rocky will stay long. Give him a month or so to stir the proverbial wasp nest on Raw before disappearing again for his next promotional tour.
Post by: akdaman1 on February 28, 2004, 10:15:13 AM
O.K - News just in - Ric Flair has apparently done his neck , it is survely injured and mar bring an end to his long carrer. Dont expect him to be in the ring again.
- Edges return has been delayed , he was supposed to go into rehab for his neck this week , and return to WWE in less then a month , but he just sprained his ankle ( badly ) and his return is now delayed. Also HHH wants Edge on Raw , this has caused quite a stir seeing as Smackdown needs another Crowd Favourite who can pull in big draws.
Post by: RickPowers on March 03, 2004, 01:28:52 PM
Post by: Shift Key on March 03, 2004, 03:11:04 PM
*As for the Rock and Sock connection it is sad to see Rock steal the limelight yet again.
And I'll be able to see a Wrestlemania live for the first time ever because of a favourable uni timetable
QuoteBupbow. Apparently he was invited to say goodbye, but told the WWE to shove it because he wasn't being inducted into the Hall of Fame at WMXX.
but I have been hearing Bret Hart to come by on Wrestlemania and say a goodbye speech
Post by: akdaman1 on March 03, 2004, 06:52:40 PM
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Originally posted by: RickPowers
FYI, this ridiculousness of The Rock taking someone else's spot on the show is just plain silly. First, if that spot belonged to someone deserving, even The Rock couldn't take it away. Second, Wrestlemania XX will be FIVE HOURS LONG this year. There's room for anyone and everyone that deserves to be on the program.
I 100% agree with you , infact down at www.nodq.com there was a major debate on weather the Rock should be there or not , in the end most people agreed that The Rock made Wrestlemania and if he were not allowed to be at the grandaddy of em all then Vince could shove a pie up his ass.
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on March 03, 2004, 08:56:36 PM
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Originally posted by: akdaman1
The Rock made Wrestlemania
lollin'....
You're kidding, right? Rock did not make WM. Are you forgetting other wrestlers that made WM what it is today such as Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Andre the Giant, Steve Austin etc......(and any others I'm forgetting)
Jump off the Rock bandwagon, will ya?!
Post by: Shift Key on March 04, 2004, 01:40:45 AM
Post by: akdaman1 on March 04, 2004, 09:37:40 AM
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Originally posted by: AiAiQuote
Originally posted by: akdaman1
The Rock made Wrestlemania
lollin'....
You're kidding, right? Rock did not make WM. Are you forgetting other wrestlers that made WM what it is today such as Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Andre the Giant, Steve Austin etc......(and any others I'm forgetting)
Jump off the Rock bandwagon, will ya?!
You really seem to be underestimating the Rock , believe me , I am not the only person who believes The Rock made wrestlemania along with Stone Cold and Hulk Hogan , I wont comment on Andre or Bret , Shawn because I never seen thier matches.
Whether its Rock vs Austin at X7 or Rock vs Hogan at X8 , The Rock always put on great matches.
Same goes to Stone Cold with his matches against all the top wrestlers ...these 2 men kept WWF alive during the war with WCW.
Anyway off this topic ...I wanna know what you all think bout the Dead Mans return ? Undertaker coming back as the Phenom.
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on March 04, 2004, 02:54:45 PM
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Originally posted by: akdaman1
I wont comment on Andre or Bret , Shawn because I never seen thier matches.
And that's why you shouldn't say that Rock made WM if you haven't see others wrestle at WM.
*points to Shawn Michaels vs Razor Ramon match at WMX*
Post by: DrZoidberg on March 04, 2004, 03:53:33 PM
Post by: Shift Key on March 04, 2004, 04:24:22 PM
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*points to Shawn Michaels vs Razor Ramon aka Scott Hall for the uninitiated match at WMX*
Apparently they were planning to celebrate the tenth anniversary of that match by throwing in a last minute schedule change to a triple threat ladder match for the Heavyweight belt (which would be AWESOME if done well) but it doesn't look like it. ;______;
Post by: akdaman1 on March 04, 2004, 07:04:44 PM
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Originally posted by: AiAiQuote
Originally posted by: akdaman1
I wont comment on Andre or Bret , Shawn because I never seen thier matches.
And that's why you shouldn't say that Rock made WM if you haven't see others wrestle at WM.
*points to Shawn Michaels vs Razor Ramon match at WMX*
O.K then sorry , let me change my comment for you ...The Rock , Austin and Hogan created wreslting.
Undertaker
HHH
Mankind
Rock
Austin are the top 5 greates wrestler of the past decade ...now dont try to argue , these are the Top 5 voted wrestlers in the decade from best of Raw.
Post by: DrZoidberg on March 04, 2004, 07:56:25 PM
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on March 04, 2004, 08:08:49 PM
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Originally posted by: akdaman1
O.K then sorry , let me change my comment for you ...The Rock , Austin and Hogan created wreslting.
lollerskates....
That shows how much of a mark you are!
Post by: RickPowers on March 05, 2004, 08:23:30 AM
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I know Rock has won some matches in recent years, but his results when the belt is on the line don't scream "legend".
Come on, guys. Let's try to remember that wrestling is pre-determined, and that any wrestler's record, belt or no, CAN'T be what constitutes a legend. It's the overall contribution to the business, which is why The Rock is as deserving as anyone. Regardless of how you personally feel about him, he puts asses in seats and gets MAINSTREAM attention, and that alone makes him worthy.
Post by: Shift Key on March 05, 2004, 04:52:23 PM
QuoteI do agree - it has more to do with the wrestler's personality and character development than actual success. But I still feel the Rock is over-rated, despite what everyone else says. He's more of a Hollywood actor than a wrestler IMO.
Let's try to remember that wrestling is pre-determined, and that any wrestler's record, belt or no, CAN'T be what constitutes a legend.
So he deserves to just drop by whenever he pleases, to say hi and spout general nonsense about jabronies and cookin at Wresltemania? Sure. When he was a full-time wrestler, he was worthy of it. But now I just don't agree.
The WWE is the now the most popular wrestling league around. It's not like a few years ago when the WCW/NWO stole superstars and ratings from them. It's no longer so cut-throat when it comes to ratings etc. I don't know how fast the WM event sold out but I think it would have been a sellout without the Rock's sudden appearance and challenge to Evolution. The Triple Threat Heavyweight Title match and the Lesnar/Goldberg/Austin match alone would have drawn the crowds.
Let me just poll this small group - what do you expect will result of the Triple threat match? My opinion is that Benoit WILL NOT win (i've been hearing rumours about it), and my horrible gut feeling is that HHH will again retain the title. Thoughts?
Post by: akdaman1 on March 05, 2004, 07:37:45 PM
Me and U could go on talkin bout wrestling forever. Because I too believe HHH will win the match at Wrestlmania , and that Benoit will win the title in his hometown at Backlash.
By the way ...do any of you actually like Benoit ? ...I mean ...to me he is an O.K wrestler but I dont believe he is being pushed the right way. I mean if the WWE wanted the crowd to get behind Benoit they should put him up against HHH and HHH only. HBK is the leading face on Raw and the crowd dont seem to be loving Benoit at the moment.
Post by: blackfootsteps on March 06, 2004, 04:34:41 PM
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Originally posted by: RickPowers
...Second, Wrestlemania XX will be FIVE HOURS LONG this year. There's room for anyone and everyone that deserves to be on the program.
Didn't know this! I guess they could chuck the Rock a minute or too!!
Post by: Shift Key on March 07, 2004, 05:01:48 PM
Post by: akdaman1 on March 07, 2004, 06:43:59 PM
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Originally posted by: Shifty
Akdaman: I have a feeling that HHH will be taking a break after WM, which gives the cue for Benoit to turn heel and push on the saga with Michaels after WM. Seems to be the logical path - however I'm not sure whether HHH is taking a break or not...
Honestly I see HBK turning heel , Ever since Benoit arrived he has been slowly changing.
Also I dont think HHH will take a leave , I believe there is no need for it seeing as he hasnt wrestled in a proper match for over a month , Im sure he has healed up from whatever injury he might of had.
At the moment I am loving Raw but cannont stand this 3 way main event. Wrestlemania XX should have been HHH/HBK ...again.
Benoit can fued with anyone, I dont see him as a BIG draw for the buisness like many of the past champions were. Guerreo on the other hand has a massive fanbase and IS A MAJOR draw.
P.S - What trades do you think should be made to make Raw and Smackdown a more even show ?
Im thinking that after Wrestlmania XX evoloution should break up and Batista and RVD should move over to Smackdown in trades for Edge.
Or I feel the Undertaker/Kane fued should be moved over to Smackdown.
What do you all think ?
Post by: RickPowers on March 08, 2004, 05:32:55 AM
Post by: Shift Key on March 08, 2004, 11:48:31 PM
And the evil goatees are awesome! We seriously need more of them nowadays!
Rumour Mill: The ECW is apparently being revived, with Heyman being 'sacked' and rebelling to lead the revived league.
Post by: akdaman1 on March 09, 2004, 10:50:06 PM
You must not miss Wresltmania. Its gonna be AWSOME!!!
The RETURN OF THE DEADMAN !!!
EDIT *** I have some bad news ...Brock Lesner is leaving the WWE after Wrestlemania , he is apparently being burned by the schedual and very pissed about having to go to South Africa only to wrestle Hardcore Holly.
I wish Brock good in his carrer in the NFL ( where he is going to ) ...good luck Brock.
( This is all true and no bull unfortuently )
Post by: akdaman1 on March 15, 2004, 12:54:51 AM
I thought they were gonna screw everything up ...and they did ...but only to a small degree.
I mean Undertaker is the freaking same ...He has freaky music and a cowboy hat ? WTF ? ....Since when did the Deadman wear a tanktop ? ...there match was good ...nothing speacial...but good enough.
Rock came back and he put up an Awsome fight ...too bad he lost. ( Oh and Foley is there )
And time for my Award cerimonie -
Best Match - Christian v Jericho - This was totaly unexpected and really was off the charts ...Christian was in good form and the pace of the match never really slowed down ...which is good.
Honourable mentions - Rock & Sock v Evouloution and Triple Threat match
Worst match of the night - Evening Gown match - There was no point to this, and I find it a little stupid that Ms.Jakie was proud to show off her tits a few weeks ago yet is unwilling to show off her bra ?
Honorable mentions - Molly v Vic
Biggest Dissapoinment - Brock and Goldberg - I was really anticipating this match , I was expecting big moves and hard fists and an all out war , yet nothing really happened in the match...I barley even remember it ...I fell asleep.
Honourable mentions - Crusierweigth open and Undetaker.
Rating out of 10 - 9.7 - It was good and some matches were ...unexpected ( the victories ).
Post by: Shift Key on March 15, 2004, 06:45:53 PM
Good night all in all. Apart from the fact my friend's Foxtel decided to die on the day and we had to race to another place to catch the start because of the absence of Foxtel service!
Undertaker's return is his old-school "Preacher" threads - the hat is just his signature pre-bikeriding - his ropewalking he tried in the match is another throwback to those days. Is it just me or is Paul Bearer getting even wider these days? Is that even possible?
And you fell asleep towards the end? Boo! The triple threat match was the best of the night, with everyone willing Benoit on to defeat HHH. Good times to see him tap out and finally lose!
And Trish turning heel! Woo! I didn't see that coming when she interfered, but Woo!
Goldberg/Lesnar was a let-down, good to see them get stunnered in the end. Even the fans knew it was the end and started up the "Na Na Nana" chant.
Rocko/Socko wasn't that great IMO. We were just making jokes about Flair belonging in "Weekend at Bernies" or in a Thunderbirds match. ^_____^
Cruiserweight Invitational was ugly because they kept on stuffing up moves - considering how acrobatic some of those guys are, a little bit of leeway was given. Rey Rey in the Flash costume was a highlight - and he was denied again. Boo!
Post by: akdaman1 on March 15, 2004, 07:17:48 PM
I just watched Wresltemania for the 2nd time and that Triple threat match seemed even better this time through.
And although I have a slight idea on what happens on Raw I wont say.
If you know dont ruin it for us ppl from Australia.
But I will say one thing ...its about bloddy time.
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on March 15, 2004, 09:35:51 PM
I thought it was at the end of the month or early April, like it usually is.
Post by: akdaman1 on March 20, 2004, 10:45:29 AM
Things are being shaken up quite a bit ...I dont really care what happens with the draft ...except I want Orton and Cena on the same brand ...that would be an AWSOME fued in my opinion.
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on March 20, 2004, 02:35:49 PM
Post by: akdaman1 on March 21, 2004, 09:17:50 AM
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I'm looking forward to the Draft next month!
HAHAHAHA ....I think you go the wrong idea ...HAHAHAHA
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on May 21, 2004, 04:04:00 PM
This question is probably not important, but I am wondering, why did Raw's timeslot change from Tuesdays to Fridays? To me, that's stupid.
Post by: DrZoidberg on May 21, 2004, 09:21:10 PM
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on May 21, 2004, 09:44:23 PM
Post by: akdaman1 on May 21, 2004, 10:28:04 PM
He will be wrestling again around August. The story going is that Big Show chokeslammed angle off a 25 ft ledge and that Angle will never wrestle again.
Too me the whole issue is screwed. Angle isnt comfortable as GM. It doesnt suit him.
AiAi - Watch RAW. It gets better every week. Right now they have Kane as #1 contender. They also have major fueds involving HHH v HBK and Christian v Jericho.
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on May 21, 2004, 11:07:49 PM
When I said "Know who broke it?", I meant in terms of the angle!
Sad to hear he had neck surgery.BTW, why the hell is HBK back? I thought he retired for good b/c of back problems?
Post by: Shift Key on May 22, 2004, 12:13:15 AM
And HHH is still planning to make a movie, ak. I can post the link but I can't be bothered right now.
Post by: akdaman1 on May 22, 2004, 02:58:31 AM
Shifty - Yeah HHH is making Blade : Trinity and Konan. He might be alright.
O.K so The Rock is back. Who thinks its for good?
I wanna know what you guys think of these wrestlers.
Jericho - I love him. He is my favourite wrestler. Funny and can elevate even the crappest wrestlers.
Christian - I too love Christian. He has become my favourite heel. I see him as the HHH of the future.
Randy Orton - I have always loved this guy. Everyone bagged me saying he sucked. They all shut up after Backlash.
Booker T - WWE need to make him the top heel on Smackdown.
JBL - Die JBL. You can wrestle. Your gayyy.
Benoit - I personnaly hate Benoit. He just doesnt seem that great to me.
HHH - I believe that HHH is awsome. Although I really wanna see him in a fued that isnt HBK or for the title.
John Cena - He will be the BIG star along with Orton in the future.
and most importantly
Renne Dupree - I love this guy. He is awsome. I really want them to build Renne up into a HUGE star.
Who do you all think will lead the company in 3-5 years time?
I believe that Cena/Orton/Jericho/Christian will become the new HHH/Rock/Taker/Austin. In 5+ years time Dupree will be the next BIG thing.
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on May 22, 2004, 03:24:03 AM
Quote
Originally posted by: akdaman1
AiAi - In my post I answered your question. Big Show broke his leg. It looked really brutal.
I was saying, I understood when DrZ told me it just part of an angle. Was merely asking who faked breaking his leg.
I haven't seen much of Renne Dupree, but I like what I've seen so far. He reminds me of Kurt Angle during his first year in the fed!
The guy is good as a hell; badmouthing America just like Kurt did! Pure GOLD!
Post by: Shift Key on May 22, 2004, 07:07:05 AM
QuoteI don't.
O.K so The Rock is back. Who thinks its for good?
You want my opinion? Here it is...
Jericho - Yeah, he's up there in my top three favourite RAW guys. Face Jericho is hilarious.
Christian - He's doing the heel role well, but I rather him losing than winning. So he's doing it really well.
Randy Orton - MOST. OVERRATED. WRESTLER. EVER. I hate him. What an ego! Go marry yourself already.
Booker T - Voodoo? I don't know *weird* I MISS THE SPINNEROONIE! NO MORE BOOKER HEEL I SEZ!
JBL - Yes, JBL should be banished to Mexico and be forced to shoe-shine for a living.
Benoit - #1 with a bullet in my book. One of the last of the old school of wrestling and that gets more points than some punk kid talking smach. Playing the champ role well and is an excellent face for RAW and the WWE.
HHH - can go and screw Stephanie (or is it the other way round blol) because he and Taker are on the way down (and out?)
John Cena - If his ego is in check, he will go far. He has the fans onside (not like Randy) and its definitely easier to last as a face in modern-day wrestling.
Renne Dupree - won't last long. Him and Conway now jobbers. The other Frenchie (can't think of his name) may have a bigger role on Smackdown before long. Watch for Eugene to have a title shot on RAW before long *winkICwink*
Who do you all think will lead the company in 3-5 years time? I really don't think about it, because anything can happen (see Austin's exit)
Post by: akdaman1 on May 22, 2004, 12:29:03 PM
I want to see either Kane or Jericho with the title soon. And Edge headlining WM XXI.
Also I want to see Booker get more Mic time instead of John Bradshit.
Post by: Shift Key on May 22, 2004, 07:50:18 PM
QuoteNothing special, honestly.
What do you think about his in-ring ability?
Look for the Hardy Boyz to return, and perhaps feud with Kane like old times.
I see Edge with the IC title way before WM XXI - he has beef with Orton.
Post by: DrZoidberg on May 23, 2004, 12:33:54 AM
Christian - needs more Edge and Christian hilarity
Randy Orton - next, he doesn't impress at all
Booker T - FIVE TIME FIVE TIME FIVE TIME FIVE TIME FIVE TIME, except heal? bah :\
JBL - neesd more Farooq, the acolytes were cool ;__;
Benoit - Benoit > you, if you remmeber him coming in from WCW about four - five years ago, he's improved out of sight, needs more Stu Hart wrestlers
HHH - enjoyable, but needs something new tood
John Cena - gets the croud going, looks like he's made of plastic, passable in ring
Al Snow - COME BACK ;_______: BRING BACK THE HARDCORE BELT KTHX
Steve Blackman - see above
Post by: Shift Key on May 23, 2004, 02:14:40 AM
QuoteOMG YES!
Christian - needs more Edge and Christian hilarity
"You're a dork!"
"A HUUUUGE dork!"
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on May 24, 2004, 12:45:22 AM
Quote
Originally posted by: DrZoidberg
Al Snow - COME BACK ;_______: BRING BACK THE HARDCORE BELT KTHX
Steve Blackman - see above
YES!
STEVE BLACKMAN! The man is a god! If there is a wrestler that's about kicking ass, it's him!
"This is my house!"
Post by: akdaman1 on May 24, 2004, 12:51:32 AM
Quote
Originally posted by: AiAiQuote
Originally posted by: DrZoidberg
Al Snow - COME BACK ;_______: BRING BACK THE HARDCORE BELT KTHX
Steve Blackman - see above
YES!
STEVE BLACKMAN! The man is a god! If there is a wrestler that's about kicking ass, it's him!
"This is my house!"
You mean if Reggie started wrestling he would go by the name Steve Blackman.
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on May 24, 2004, 01:01:30 AM
Steve Blackman kicked ass in the ring LONG before Reggie did!
sorry if I gave anyone a massive seizure
Post by: Shift Key on May 31, 2004, 04:00:31 AM
I miss Goldust. And Mini-dust. ;_________;
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 02, 2004, 12:06:04 AM
Post by: Shift Key on June 02, 2004, 01:59:07 AM
Post by: Hybrid Hunter on June 03, 2004, 04:25:26 AM
Loved his skits with Booker T
GOLD!!
Post by: akdaman1 on June 12, 2004, 02:17:47 PM
Anyone planning on going? Its called the Return of the Deadman tour. Its gonna rock hard.
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on June 12, 2004, 04:41:19 PM
Post by: akdaman1 on June 12, 2004, 10:16:11 PM
Quote
Originally posted by: AiAi
When are they coming down? Will it be the Raw or Smackdown team, or just a low profile house show?
Its Smackdown and from the looks of it, its gonna be based around the Undertaker. I am putting my money on something a little bit more low-profile then the Global Warming tour. Its at Vodaphone arena for us.
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on June 13, 2004, 08:39:20 PM
BTW, what happened to Brock Lesnar? Did he get fired or wanted to try out for the NFL?
Post by: akdaman1 on June 14, 2004, 01:21:41 AM
Booker T
RVD
Renne Dupree
Mysterio
Cena
Mordecai
Kenzo Suziki ( new japanese wrestler that will most likley hold the title soon )
Eddie Guerreo
Chavos ( Cant wait to see them )
and more - I really hope Jericho shows up, because in my opinion he is the GREATEST wrestler ever ...even over Rock.
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on June 14, 2004, 03:10:19 AM
looked at wwe.com:
August 27th - Fri at Sydney
August 28th - Sat at Brisbane
August 29th - Sun at Melbourne
so yeah, from the looks of it, Adelaide misses out!
Post by: Hybrid Hunter on June 14, 2004, 03:36:11 AM
I might actually go this time, so long as the price is right!!
Come on Doooowwwwnnn!!!
Post by: Shift Key on June 14, 2004, 04:10:25 AM
QuotePigs will fly before Jericho appears at a Smackdown house show.
I really hope Jericho shows up
QuoteThat's ok. ITS ONLY SMACKDOWN hrhrhrhr. Although Rey Rey is a legendary cruiserweight who I wouldn't mind seeing in action.
from the looks of it, Adelaide misses out!
Is it just me or is Mordecai the bizarro-Undertaker?
Post by: akdaman1 on June 14, 2004, 12:16:19 PM
Go to WWE.com, into internationals, Australia etc and you will see the list which clearly states Big Show as an participant in the Return of the Deadman tour.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 14, 2004, 06:33:42 PM
Post by: akdaman1 on June 14, 2004, 09:12:31 PM
Quote
Originally posted by: Professional 666
I remember when "The Undertaker" first appeared on TV alongside Brother Love -- GOD I'M OLD!!
Actually the Undertaker first appeared in Survivor series against the Harts.
Post by: Shift Key on June 22, 2004, 10:14:10 PM
Quote
... and showed up on the scene with Brother Love as the WWF's Undertaker.
It was the 1990 Survivor Series when the world was introduced to the man that would become 2 time WWF Champion ...
Just found a clip of the Eugene/HHH match from this weeks Raw (coming up this Friday for Oz)... EUGENE DOES THE RICK FLAIR STRUT! :-O GOLD!! EUGENE > YOU!
Post by: akdaman1 on June 25, 2004, 04:13:51 PM
BUT
Why was thier only 3 matches on RAW. Noone cares about the fken DIVA search. It took up so much time. Where the hell has Shelton been the last 2 weeks? How about putting Benoit in a match? How about La Resistance? Where were they? Let Rosey go ...I want Hurricane to be in the IC picture. When in the blue hell is the most deserving ever wrestler of all time gonna go for the title again ( Jericho ). Please next week I hope Kane wins his match. Benoit can go on to a fued with HHH or Edge while Y2J goes for the title.
This is what I think would be awsome.
Next week Benoit wins his match again to Kane. Then at Vengance HHH v Benoit. Benoit loses the title thanks to an Edge heel turn. Then with HHH the new champion a Elimination Chamber match is setup at Summerslam :
HHH v Benoit v Kane v Jericho v Christian v Edge.
Chris Jericho wins the title and fueds with Benoit and Edge. Matt Hardy and Kane fued. HHH will fued with Orton who turns face. Benjamin will be the new IC champ and he fueds with Batista and Christian. Hurricane finnaly makes Rosey a superhero but turns heel on him. La Resitance fued with Eugene and Regal. Palumbo and Cade form a tag team with the titles in thier view. Trish loses the title to Gail Kim and Tomko dies a horrible death.
In a few months time Micheals comes back and fueds with Kane. Then shock ...McMahons come back and decide to merge the rosters. A Jericho v Booker T ( Who is champ on Smackdown ) match is setup with the winner getting to keep his belt. Booker T keeps his belt and the Heavyweight title is gone forever.
Within the next year People like Edge, Guerreo and Orton fued witht the title along with Y2J, Booker T and Kane.
Post by: Shift Key on June 26, 2004, 02:41:40 AM
QuoteErm, broke his hand in a match with Garrison Cade last week. Out for a month or so...
Where the hell has Shelton been the last 2 weeks?
QuoteWho knows? Maybe he'll go after Christian and push that feud towards something more sinister. Right now the title is Benoit's and he's doing a good job of it too...
When in the blue hell is the most deserving ever wrestler of all time gonna go for the title again
QuoteNah, Kane's got a baby to take care of and everything
Please next week I hope Kane wins his match.
QuoteWhy would they feud? Edge and Benoit could feud(blol imitation spear, needs more Edgucation) but Jericho's foe at the moment is neither Benoit or Edge, which is why he's taking it easy...
Chris Jericho wins the title and fueds with Benoit and Edge.
QuoteHow can that be awesome? How can that be anything apart from cruelty?
Heavyweight title is gone forever.
Post by: akdaman1 on June 26, 2004, 12:12:54 PM
Post by: Shift Key on June 27, 2004, 12:14:33 AM
Post by: akdaman1 on June 27, 2004, 03:42:33 AM
Quote
Originally posted by: Shifty
Well unless you have an evil goatee, then you're not really evil.
Well a goatee is in the works. In a month or 2 time I will have a goatee.
