Post by: Metaphysical Spirit on February 10, 2004, 08:26:19 AM
Post by: The Omen on February 10, 2004, 09:37:29 AM
Post by: vudu on February 10, 2004, 09:45:47 AM
Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Lord, Jack.
General Jack D. Ripper: You know when fluoridation first began?
Capt. Lionel Mandrake: I... no, no. I don't, Jack.
General Jack D. Ripper: Nineteen hundred and forty-six. Nineteen forty-six, Mandrake. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works.
Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Uh, Jack, Jack, listen, tell me, tell me, Jack. When did you first... become... well, develop this theory?
General Jack D. Ripper: Well, I, uh... I... I... first became aware of it, Mandrake, during the physical act of love.
Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Hmm.
General Jack D. Ripper: Yes, a uh, a profound sense of fatigue... a feeling of emptiness followed. Luckily I... I was able to interpret these feelings correctly. Loss of essence.
Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Hmm.
General Jack D. Ripper: I can assure you it has not recurred, Mandrake. Women uh... women sense my power and they seek the life essence. I, uh... I do not avoid women, Mandrake.
Capt. Lionel Mandrake: No.
General Jack D. Ripper: But I... I do deny them my essence.
Post by: manunited4eva22 on February 10, 2004, 10:04:03 AM
Somehow quoting a book that the very guy who wrote it said was more of a warning than a reality is not a good answer to me.
Post by: Metaphysical Spirit on February 10, 2004, 03:59:01 PM
Post by: KnowsNothing on February 10, 2004, 04:08:20 PM
I think it's becuase of the droogz *blows bubbles out of pipe* This conspiracy has been going around longer than that one where the government put radioactive tablets in the urinals (it explains ALOT now doesn't it?). I think we should go on strike and stop eating meat. But they're also drugging the veggies. So let's just stop eating. Who's with me? *cricket chirps*
Post by: Ocarina Blue on February 10, 2004, 06:44:10 PM
Post by: Metaphysical Spirit on February 10, 2004, 08:00:24 PM
Post by: Ocarina Blue on February 10, 2004, 09:07:28 PM
Post by: Ms.Pikmin on February 10, 2004, 09:28:07 PM
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Originally posted by: Metaphysical Spirit
I'm a little confused on kingvudu post though. Not totally confused, but still confused. Hah.
He's quoting Dr. Strangelove I believe.
EDIT: Oh, Manunited, it's 1984, not 1982.
Post by: Ocarina Blue on February 10, 2004, 10:27:52 PM
Post by: DarkSyphor on February 11, 2004, 12:32:43 AM
my friends got food poisoning by eatting some meat.
did any one hear about the chicken problem (flu)
Post by: manunited4eva22 on February 11, 2004, 03:01:42 AM
Anyway, I don't think its a fair statement to say conspiracy theory crap n reply to someone asking whats in meat. Are there chemicals? yes. Do they harm you? probablly not
Post by: KDR_11k on February 11, 2004, 04:39:46 AM
Post by: The Omen on February 11, 2004, 06:52:22 AM
I'm selfish that way. By the way, you do know that people have been eating animals, since forever, and i'm quite sure there was no mad scientist injecting the buffalo with drugs back in prehistoric times.
Post by: Metaphysical Spirit on February 11, 2004, 08:58:57 AM
Post by: manunited4eva22 on February 11, 2004, 09:46:37 AM
How is caffeine addictive? Give me one study that cloncluded it was. People take caffeine for the energy boost, it's not like you see people popping drinks in the corner to get their dose.
Plants are selectively breed so that they can no longer live without us, if humans weren't controlling them they would die. How is that different from animals that are done basically the same way.
Give me a break about cows, having family that raises cows, I know a lot of that is BS, for the US anyway. Cow juice is traded, they want the best of the breed in their cows. These cows aren't dying of diseases, they are dying of having a metal rod shot into their head.
Really though, the FDA got their panties in a bunch because some salmon has too much of something that could lead to cancer, with very little proof to show. If beef was somehow very dangerous, believe me you would hear about it much faster.
Post by: ThePerm on February 11, 2004, 09:51:02 AM
. If I am getting fat its because im in my feaking school sitting on my ass all day.Post by: Hostile Creation on February 11, 2004, 01:38:53 PM
I like meat, and eat it regularly. I appreciate the animal that died for me, however much it may not have wanted to die. I savor it for all it's worth, and ravish in the fact that it's a dead animal. If I don't, it was hardly worth the thing dying. And no, I don't want to stop killing them for their meat. I love it, and I hope to continue eating it.
Sorry to sound so sick
Post by: KnowsNothing on February 11, 2004, 01:57:07 PM
I'm not here to insult people who are vegetarians, especially those who are vegetarians for other reasons, but I just don't see the logic.
Post by: The Omen on February 11, 2004, 02:44:41 PM
Quote-- Foundation to all freedom
Caffeine is highly addictive. Quitting coffee can cause withdrawal symptoms such as headaches, sleepiness and irritability. The acidic nature of coffee can lead to stomach ulcers. When the excess acid enters the bloodstream, it also increases calcium loss in urine. Both coffee and tea have no nutritional value. Tannin, the substance that makes tea cups brown and coats tea pots, is used for tanning leather. Imagine the stomach after twenty years of tea drinking.
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How is caffeine addictive? Give me one study that cloncluded it was. People take caffeine for the energy boost, it's not like you see people popping drinks in the corner to get their dose.
What, are you kidding me? Just because something is addictive doesn't mean people are hiding in corners getting their fix. You havent seen people drink two pots of coffee in the morning? Your body does not need that much caffiene to get a 'boost'. The fact of the matter is you begin to crave it , and need it. Thats an addiction.
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 11, 2004, 02:50:22 PM
That's why I mainly stick with water...
(Oh, and yes, caffeine is addictive...In recent studies it was found that you can drink as few as 4 cups of coffee a day before you begin to feel the effects of physical dependance...Of course, the amount a person can take before building this dependance differs...It can take 3 or 4 cups, or even up to 20...Either way, it does have addictive properties)
Post by: Metaphysical Spirit on February 11, 2004, 03:04:35 PM
As for the meat, like I have said I beleive all of you. You do have to take organic meats and top brand meats in consideration, but there are a lot of other meats sold.. Look at other countries too, who are poorer. Meat is very unhealthy after an extent. Meat has protien though, so thats why you should eat it... well that and its DELICIOUS. I'm a chicken type of guy, but I love meat too. I'm not trying to go against you guys. I'm now more interested in the caffiene discusion to be honest. It was just a bet that I wanted settled and I won thanks to you guys. By the way, to the kid who had a family growing cows, where they also the butcher's? You also have to consider this too, that's like homegrown. You see what you see. =0)
Post by: manunited4eva22 on February 11, 2004, 04:19:13 PM
I take several pills for migraines, before I only took one. As time has gone by my bloodstream has lost the effect of some of them, and I have been switched off. Am I addicted to the pill because if I don't take it I run the risk of severe migraines or so I can have a full head to study? Under what you said in thsoe studies I am addicted. Oh well, I guess I am taking it out of context because obviously scientific studies can't be wrong, right?)
Oh yes, I went to the foundation for all freedom and found a very funny symbolism. heroine addict to someone who likes sweets. So obviously my example can't be too far off, I mean you quoted them not me.
"Chocolate bars are loaded with salt, sugar, caffeine and fat, up to 300 calories per bar. Like a body that demands heroin for its balance, the body will crave sugar, salt and fat. Take candy from a sugar junkie, and look out! Quitting causes withdrawals. Remove sugar, processed fat or salt from your diet, and you will crave them. You will go through the discomfort of facing withdrawal similar to the withdrawal from drugs."
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 11, 2004, 04:45:29 PM
And the reason you face withdrawal when you are separated from chocolate is because of the caffeine...
Post by: mouse_clicker on February 11, 2004, 05:05:45 PM
And the Omen is right- vegetables are just as dangerous as meat is. Most of the vegetables we eat are not grown in the United States and hence aren't produced under our own standards. A lot of experimental pesticides that didn't get FDA approval in the US are used in other countries and work their way in our diets anyway.
Post by: ThePerm on February 11, 2004, 05:43:48 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 11, 2004, 05:53:54 PM
Post by: mouse_clicker on February 11, 2004, 06:00:53 PM
In reality, though, there's absolutely no problem drinking milk or eating ice cream until the day you die. I just wanted to point out it deserves at least as much attention as caffein assuming it's roughly on the same level. You never hear milk getting bad press, though.
Post by: Metaphysical Spirit on February 11, 2004, 06:15:57 PM
Post by: DarkSyphor on February 12, 2004, 02:57:08 AM
i think the best way of stopping your self of drinking caffiene is something that youll know that will destroy the taste of the caffiene.
for instance i like eatting watermealons , once you combine it evil taste that gets to you
Post by: mouse_clicker on February 12, 2004, 05:01:05 AM
Post by: Metaphysical Spirit on February 12, 2004, 07:24:15 AM
Post by: nolimit19 on February 12, 2004, 10:00:53 AM
Post by: The Omen on February 12, 2004, 10:30:01 AM
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also the atkins diet is no good
Considering all the 'medical' establishments that are against it are animal rights activists , one wonders how you yourself come up with this statement. Having been on atkins for the last 3 months, and losing 75 pounds, having my cholestoral go way down, and generally being in better health than i ever was on a low fat diet, i think its great.
Post by: Ms.Pikmin on February 12, 2004, 10:37:14 AM
EDIT: Good going on the 75 pounds Omen! =)
Post by: manunited4eva22 on February 12, 2004, 10:39:44 AM
Post by: Hostile Creation on February 12, 2004, 11:11:53 AM
And I agree with knowsnothing. Not eating meat in today's society is a waste.
And I avoid caffiene if I can. I usually drink Sprite, if I get a carbonated beverage, or cream soda. Root beer. Hardly ever coke, but sometimes Dr. Pepper. I tend to stick to water, milk, and apple juice, though. Whoo me!
Post by: nolimit19 on February 12, 2004, 12:47:17 PM
Post by: The Omen on February 12, 2004, 03:05:49 PM
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i wouldnt go on the atkin diet if i was overweight. i would just exercise and eat less.
I'm not going to bash you too much because this isnt really the topic, but thats easier said than done. Eating less bad food is still bad for you, so youre missing the point totally. This diet, like many other diets, helps you lose weight, but what low fat diets dont do is make you healthy. Also, its true some fat is bad for you, but it is also true certain fat is integral to being healthy. And some carbs are very detrimental. This diet is good fat/protien without the man made sugar products, I.E. carbs, mainly the white flour foods. Complex carbs are part of the diet. So really, i cant see whats so hard to understand.
And the first Atkins book was released in the early 70's, so its not 'new' science.
Post by: ThePerm on February 12, 2004, 05:20:00 PM
Post by: Ocarina Blue on February 12, 2004, 05:54:38 PM
Humans have been eating meat for millennia. For millennia before that, many cultures showed some signs of cannibalism. And yet, very few humans are cannibals now. Why? The reasons, I hope, will come instinctively to all of you. In a future world where productivity has continued to grow, people ther may see eating meat as repugnant and disgusting.
All major religions in the world preach basic respect for life, in some form or another, especially the one that's philosophies I'm most sleighted to. Most of these religions don't preach strict vegetarianism, but most of the people they appeal to are not in a position to give up meat, for they will not be able to make up the lost supplements through other foodstuffs. However, people in privileged positions (e.g. people who can buy (or get others to buy them) computers, i.e. us) can obtain the necessary provisions relatively easily.
Many people in our society own pets. Many people cry or are at least momentarily sad when their pets die. If these people (who include me) had to personally kill their own animals (as they have always done before a few hundred years ago) in order to eat meat, I believe they'd eat significantly less meat. The anonymity of battery farming encourages consumption.
Not eating meat has few negative effects on me. I'm not particularly healthy, but my iron levels are just fine. I'm as skinny as a rake.
Several millennia ago, people didn't eat meat from enslaved animals that get crap pumped into them every day. And yes, the drugs can certainly have negative effects. Although there is, as far as I know, no evidence of any bacterial spread from chickens to humans, you can be sure that if one emerges, it won't be good for us at all. Antibiotics have positive effect on the human body only when a particular bacterium is wrecking havoc.
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The book implied that it was happening at that very moment, Stalin was already dead/quite on his way, so that was pretty much void after ww2. And no, the world did not end, so that would be more stuff...
I'm pretty confused about this in general. Was it directed towards 1984?
EDIT: As for caffeine, perhaps the words 'fizzing blue bawls' will enlighten you of my stance towards it
EDIT2: I somehow manage to screw up the URL thingie every tsingle time. Bah.
Post by: Metaphysical Spirit on February 12, 2004, 08:53:48 PM
Post by: Hostile Creation on February 13, 2004, 10:40:51 AM
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wonders if iv seen an mc pic....
I don't think I have. . . I imagine him as a stabbed smiley face, making the situation even more humorous.
Post by: mouse_clicker on February 13, 2004, 10:55:43 AM
Me and my sister!
Post by: Ian Sane on February 13, 2004, 12:30:02 PM
I imagine you get that a lot. I myself get "why don't ya shave ya bum!"
Post by: mouse_clicker on February 13, 2004, 12:39:50 PM
Post by: nolimit19 on February 13, 2004, 01:50:56 PM
Post by: manunited4eva22 on February 13, 2004, 02:00:50 PM
My resting heart rate is 51, I eat a bunch of crap all day, but I do run long distance. Makes all the difference.
Post by: Draygaia on February 13, 2004, 02:09:16 PM
Post by: The Omen on February 14, 2004, 01:57:32 AM
I have a Mountain Dew addiction ongoing because of school. I cant break the cycle...need some interventions...
Post by: ThePerm on February 16, 2004, 02:29:22 PM
