Post by: jime on February 08, 2004, 03:04:12 AM
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Post by: Chongman on February 08, 2004, 10:53:40 AM
I want to send all of the major oldschool developers out there those shirts you can find at hot topic with the original nes controller on them and
"Know Your Roots"
underneath it. Then a note from me saying, "That's right you $#@&*!!!!!! Now get to work!"
Post by: The Omen on February 08, 2004, 11:27:41 AM
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I want to send all of the major oldschool developers out there those shirts you can find at hot topic with the original nes controller on them and
"Know Your Roots"
I own that shirt, and proudly display it.
Post by: Koopa Troopa on February 08, 2004, 03:54:42 PM
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I own that shirt, and proudly display it.
Same here. I'm thinking about getting a few more just incase I ruin it.
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on February 08, 2004, 06:40:34 PM
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Post by: Ocarina Blue on February 08, 2004, 09:32:09 PM
Post by: Ian Sane on February 09, 2004, 07:02:49 AM
Actually they kind of did do that with Metroid Prime. That's pretty much a brand new series that uses an old franchise. Anyway it does sound like a solid theory to me. The only problem I see with it is that Nintendo doesn't really have too many old series to resurrect. Kid Icarus is pretty much it and I can't see that working in 3D too well. Maybe Star Tropics would work but that is very similar to Zelda.
Post by: Nephilim on February 26, 2004, 01:33:47 PM
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Post by: CaseyRyback on February 26, 2004, 06:48:42 PM
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Originally posted by: S-U-P-E-R
I think Nintendo could learn something from Metal Gear as a franchise - a new or just pseudo-new (like MGS) series can reap some big bucks, instead of just the same game series every generation. If only the NES crew is familiar with it, it's a good way to spark up a bit of interest to start. This is just my theory, now, but I think it's valid.
the only problem is it seems all development houses Nintendo has in Japan will not touch an M rated game. I think nintendo needs to look to purchase a new second party(maybe N-space if Geist is up to par). It would help them on so many more fronts, by showing the industry that they can make M games sell on their system and that they are targeting the auidence that Xbox and PS2 have.
By doing so, third party games come more often and sell better.
O, and I can't wait for both metal gear games along with the talked about MGS
nline game. I think if Syphon Filter works out well, Kojima may end up working on the game even though he said MGS3 was his last.
Post by: The Omen on February 27, 2004, 01:22:56 AM
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I love how people act like the NES created the home gaming craze. the Atari 2600 was a household name long before big N came along. THAT'S your roots. I do love that shirt, though.
Technically, yes. But in all reality, Atari also ruined the console industry, along with the rest of the consoles(Coleco,Intelli,) When Nintendo came along, thats when my obsession began. Hence, my 'roots'.
Post by: thecubedcanuck on February 27, 2004, 04:15:08 AM
How can you honestly say that? They were revolutionary and did as much, if not more for gaming as a medium, than Nintendo did.
Post by: Ian Sane on February 27, 2004, 06:33:25 AM
Before the NES consoles tended to exist more for the purpose of playing arcade games at home. With the NES Nintendo focused more on creating original console games and thus home console gaming was regarded as quite different from arcade gaming. Arcade ports still existed (and still do today) but were not the real draw of the console. Plus the whole concept of developers paying licensing fees was introduced by Nintendo and that model still exists today.
The console model that Atari introduced crashed and burned in 1985. The console model Nintendo introduced still exists today. Thus today's consoles have more in common with the NES than the Atari 2600 and that's why Nintendo gets more credit. Atari created the industry but Nintendo perfected it.
Post by: The Omen on February 27, 2004, 08:07:50 AM
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How can you honestly say that? They were revolutionary and did as much, if not more for gaming as a medium, than Nintendo did.
Most of my memories are NES related from back then. I have some combat/adventure memories, and some more Coleco memories, but the Nintendo games had far more an effect on me. So, in conclusion, while Atari were 'revolutionary', as you put it, my statement wasn't about who was first, or who started what, it was about the 'Know your roots ' tee shirt. Therefore, knowing my gaming roots is knowing the NES was what got me hooked, and 'rooted' me in gaming forever..
Post by: thecubedcanuck on February 27, 2004, 09:55:01 AM
You need to remeber, that back in those days (my days) arcades were the big thing. To be able to play "arcade" games at home was the biggest thrill in the world. No body wanted games that werent in the arcades. Add in the fact that development houses were kind of scarce
, and the need for original console only games wasnt really needed.What Atari did, IMO, that was so amazing, was that they, with one machine, made kids stay home. Nothing since the TV itself had accomplished that feat.
Post by: Actraiser on February 29, 2004, 05:01:28 PM
I point you to the entire Activision catalog on the 2600. Also, as someone else said, back in those days, arcades were a bigger deal than they are now. Arcades were where all the great games started out, back then.
Post by: Koopa Troopa on February 29, 2004, 05:54:06 PM
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I point you to the entire Activision catalog on the 2600.
I believe (and your own quote attests to this) he made a point to say "Not including Activision's stuff".
Post by: boggy b on May 24, 2004, 07:01:19 AM
Post by: joeamis on May 24, 2004, 08:04:20 PM
As for the Atari thing, well they did prove home gaming could be viable and arcade games were where new development was always concentrated back then. Both Atari and Nintendo are responsible for "roots". Without Atari the Nintendo may have never been released. While Nintendo made home games much better than what they ever were thought capable of being.
