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Title: FF CC comercials? Thoughts?
Post by: Perfect Cell on February 02, 2004, 05:57:14 PM
I just wanted to post that im kind of disapointed with the FF CC comercials, its an important game for Nintendo, and it just doesnt deliver the message well enough.
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Post by: KDR_11k on February 02, 2004, 08:23:04 PM
Commercials? The last Nintendo commercial I ever saw was for Super Mario Land 2. Wait, there was maybe one of those glasscube ads...
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Post by: Ocarina Blue on February 02, 2004, 08:33:18 PM
Oh, we got some idiot yelling 'let's do that again!'. Thank the heavens Nintendo doesn't bother advertising here anymore.
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Post by: Armed on February 02, 2004, 08:47:27 PM
Yeah nintendo commercials are kind of weak compared to other game commercials, especially that mario sunshine commercial.
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Post by: Mario on February 02, 2004, 08:57:30 PM
Hey, that Sunshine Mario Sunshine commercial is one of my favourite commercials ever.

I have a feeling FF:CC will bomb. It's kiddie, it doesn't have a number at the end of it, and its insane requirements will scare people away.
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Post by: Berto2K on February 02, 2004, 09:10:58 PM
I actually really like the FFCC (and Metroid: Zero Mission for that matter) commercial.  It starts of seeming nothing to do with a game.  Actually seems like a car commercial to me the first time I saw it.  Then it shows 4 real actual people holding crystals pushing back the fog.  The crystals and the fog are one of the major parts of the game.  *watches from hard drive again to remember stuff*  It talks about battling alone or in multi by connecting the 4 gba's.  Also shows the "Connected" thing-ma-jig at the end at the bottom of the screen.  People will know its an RPG from the Final Fantasy label on it.  Even though it doesn't have the "true" rpg elements like experience, and leveling up.  Its gets just enough to the viewer to wet their appetite and wanting more it seems to me.

Nintendo ads have been much better since the heart monitor ones started.  I have been collecting them since then.  I have dozens of other and older ones too.  Nintendo knows how to advertise, they just got off track to start the GCN.
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Post by: Ian Sane on February 03, 2004, 06:35:47 AM
I've seen the FFCC commercial.  Most of the commercial is a bunch of actors doing stuff vaguely associated with the game, followed by three seconds of footage and no mention of what the game is about or why anyone should buy it.  Yep, it's the same sh!tty commercial Nintendo has been doing since the Cube launched.  How hard is it to make a commercial for a f*cking Final Fantasy game?  Show a bunch of cut scene footage to show off the graphics and music and say "Final Fantasy returns to Nintendo consoles this February!"  It's SO f*cking easy to do a commercial like that and it's cheaper (no actors or filming required) and it will actually get people more excited than the "Mr. Plow" commercials they're doing now.

Nintendo has to realize that this isn't 1988 anymore and you don't have to have funny skits and actors to hide the fact that the game looks like crap.  Cube games look amazing.  Just show the damn footage and people will buy it.  The Crystal Chronicles trailer got me more excited about the game than ever.  Why don't they just show the trailer as the commercial?
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Post by: SevereTireDamage on February 03, 2004, 08:36:39 AM
I agree with Berto2K, I actually think the commercials look really cool. They have a fantastic look to it, and if you already know the concept of the game (that these adventurers are using the crystal to purify the world) then it makes perfect sense. My only complaint: definitely not enough actual game footage.  
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 03, 2004, 09:42:04 AM
But isn't the point to attract people, whether or not they have a solid clue about what the product delivers?  I doubt the "knowledgable gamer" generates more sales than the mass-market.
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Post by: KnowsNothing on February 03, 2004, 11:39:37 AM
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Hey, that Sunshine Mario Sunshine commercial is one of my favourite commercials ever.


=O  Finally!  Someone who agrees with me!  (just for the record it's the one with the ginat stuffed Mario and the children singing "clean is good" or something, right?)
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Post by: Mario on February 03, 2004, 11:43:28 AM
That's the one!

I can't believe how so many people fail to see the hilarity in that commercial *shakes head*
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Post by: Ian Sane on February 03, 2004, 12:51:19 PM
"I can't believe how so many people fail to see the hilarity in that commercial"

Well it's a lot of people since nearly everyone but the two of you on this forum hated it at the time and for the first time I can think of Nintendo actually changed commercials for a current game.  Plus there's the lower-than-expected sales of the game itself which I'm sure is purely coincedental.

The hilarity in that commercial had to be the most subtle in game commercial history.  It's like the f*cking Doonesbury of game commercials.
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Post by: Perfect Cell on February 03, 2004, 01:51:00 PM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
I've seen the FFCC commercial.  Most of the commercial is a bunch of actors doing stuff vaguely associated with the game, followed by three seconds of footage and no mention of what the game is about or why anyone should buy it.  Yep, it's the same sh!tty commercial Nintendo has been doing since the Cube launched.  How hard is it to make a commercial for a f*cking Final Fantasy game?  Show a bunch of cut scene footage to show off the graphics and music and say "Final Fantasy returns to Nintendo consoles this February!"  It's SO f*cking easy to do a commercial like that and it's cheaper (no actors or filming required) and it will actually get people more excited than the "Mr. Plow" commercials they're doing now.

Nintendo has to realize that this isn't 1988 anymore and you don't have to have funny skits and actors to hide the fact that the game looks like crap.  Cube games look amazing.  Just show the damn footage and people will buy it.  The Crystal Chronicles trailer got me more excited about the game than ever.  Why don't they just show the trailer as the commercial?


I pretty much agree with you 110 percent..... Nintendos advertisment and media section is one of the reasons for its weak sales since launch.

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Post by: Nile Boogie on February 03, 2004, 08:15:01 PM
FF:CC that ad is ok but on the other hand, Metriod Zero Mission, now thats a piece a good work

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Post by: Rob91883 on February 03, 2004, 08:23:56 PM
I felt that the FFCC commercials in the theatres where good,  they showed a lot of videogame footage.  I haven't seen the TV commercials, because I just play games on it.  
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Post by: CaseyRyback on February 03, 2004, 09:11:29 PM
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Originally posted by: Nile Boogie
FF:CC that ad is ok but on the other hand, Metriod Zero Mission, now thats a piece a good work


I liked the one for Prime a lot better though
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Post by: Nile Boogie on February 04, 2004, 07:08:52 AM
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Originally posted by: CaseyRyback
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Originally posted by: Nile Boogie
FF:CC that ad is ok but on the other hand, Metriod Zero Mission, now thats a piece a good work


I liked the one for Prime a lot better though


Yes sir, Metriod Prime is the single greatest video game ad of ever time.  The whole" Who are you" thing kinda works but not all the time. And yes I said "ever" time.
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Post by: thecubedcanuck on February 04, 2004, 07:40:10 AM
I see 50 x-box and PS2 commercials for every gamecube commercial.

Is no one at NIN smart enough to realize that this is a problem?
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 04, 2004, 12:58:07 PM
They ARE *kinda* smart, it's just that they're *stingy* with money for ads.
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Post by: Berto2K on February 04, 2004, 09:08:00 PM
What channels are you watching?  I see the opposite ratio, lots more of the FFCC and Zero Mission ads than Xbox or PS2.
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Post by: Renny on February 05, 2004, 04:06:30 AM
I see more Nintendo commercials on Adult Swim [Cartoon Network] than PS2 and Xbox commercials--as far as I can tell. Which means they're probably about equal.
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Post by: S-U-P-E-R on February 05, 2004, 06:08:00 AM
There's a different commercial for FFCC on the Namco arcade Channel M tapes that's strictly gameplay footage and a song from the game. Watch for this one on TV.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 05, 2004, 08:41:30 AM
Namco arcade Chann--- WHAT?
Where can I find this?
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Post by: Draygaia on February 06, 2004, 11:49:53 AM
I actually enjoy the FFCC commercial.  I thought the SC2 commercials suck.  Like most game commercials they have this crappy guy thats supposed to be funny.  In the case of SC2 the weapons merchant.
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Post by: S-U-P-E-R on February 06, 2004, 10:18:06 PM
Channel M is a company that makes in-store video reels. The ones for Namco arcades play music videos with ads in between, usually for video games, Pop Tarts, or public service ads. They had the one F-Zero ad maybe before anyone else. I can't very well smuggle it out of work, but it's really not overwhelmingly interesting, anyway.

http://www.channelm.com/home.asp

Maybe Berto2K can find it?
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Post by: Renny on February 07, 2004, 03:56:07 AM
They've got me pegged. ;¬]

Arcades

In a word, Teens. They hang out for a minimum of 40 minutes and up to 3 hours in Channel M arcades. And we have them surrounded.. with our posters, tournaments and teens-only TV program.

EB Games

Guys, guys and more guys. Eighteen million males 18-30. Over 950 venues. Video games coming out of our ears. If you want to reach males in a place that brings out their passion for entertainment, EB Games is the place.
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Post by: odifiend on February 07, 2004, 04:42:12 AM
Draygaia, that means you missed THE SC2 commercial for the GCN.  There was a Link exclusive one that I saw during the MTV music awards (congrats to Ninty...people watch that) that broke down alot of his moves and was entirely gameplay.  Very Sweet and worth the download if you can find it.
As for the "who are you" FF:CC commercial, I don't think that commercial has the ability to interest anyone who wasn't already getting the game.  The problem with "who are you" is that often only people who have read about or played the games get the references, ergo the people who already knew about the game's release date for years, are entertained by the commercial- wrong crowd Nintendo.  I. Sane is completely right and I am so surprised that Nintendo managed to mess up the "Square commercial formula" that has always served Square so well. (Ian broke it down if you don't know what I'm talking about).
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Post by: Draygaia on February 07, 2004, 08:41:15 AM
I was actually comparing it to multiple commercials I hate.  Crash Bandicoot, DOA III, Grabbed by the Ghoulies, etc You know someting where are just doing things really dumb.  I never saw the MTV commercial but I will admit FFCC is nothing like the OoT commercial or the commercial for FFVII.
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Post by: odifiend on February 07, 2004, 09:29:51 AM
Draygaia, I am not sure but I think you thought that I was addressing you for my whole post when I meant only for the 1st paragraph to address you (directly, anyway).  If that is how you read my post, it sounds like I'm talking down to you, so I'm sorry, I didn't mean for that to happen at all.  The 2nd paragraph was to the original question.
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Post by: ThePerm on February 07, 2004, 09:34:13 AM
yeah me and berto watch pretty much the same channels...synchronously

oh and the oot commercial and the ff7 commercial....domnt they even have the same music in the backround?
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 07, 2004, 10:34:11 AM
I believe not.

The music in the OoT commercial was licensed and composed for Nintendo.
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Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on February 07, 2004, 04:33:28 PM
I didn't like the FF: CC commercial Berto2K put up.  Not enough game footage to show how beautiful it is.  And what was the point of having teenagers at the top of a building with magic in their hands?  
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Post by: jime on February 07, 2004, 06:32:07 PM
How come some final fantasy games have normal looking people, and some have  freaks with tails and faceless people and bird people?
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Post by: KDR_11k on February 08, 2004, 04:07:44 AM
Because they want to experiment and still sell on the brand name.
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Post by: Armed on February 09, 2004, 02:13:56 PM
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Originally posted by: AiAi
I didn't like the FF: CC commercial Berto2K put up.  Not enough game footage to show how beautiful it is.  And what was the point of having teenagers at the top of a building with magic in their hands?


It's Nintendo's trademark of innovation, lol.
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Post by: Mario on February 09, 2004, 02:18:32 PM
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Originally posted by: AiAi
I didn't like the FF: CC commercial Berto2K put up.  Not enough game footage to show how beautiful it is.  And what was the point of having teenagers at the top of a building with magic in their hands?

Yeah i just looked at it, and to me it looks like they choose the worst possible game footage they could find, the gameplay footage needs to look impressive, and show the best graphical parts of the game. Argh, make better commercials Nintendo!!
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 09, 2004, 03:09:52 PM
Hire me, Nintendo!!!

"Will work for free stuff! and money!"
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Post by: Polyethylene on February 10, 2004, 07:29:25 PM
What's the matter with you people? I just downloaded the spot and it is pretty cool. It looks like a movie, the fog efect is cool then they show this young people on the building (that part looks really good) and then the little footage showing great effects, is little footage but enough (like 10 seconds). The voice in the background is very good too.

Pretty cool tv spot.

I said well done Nintendo. Honestly.