Post by: Dirk Temporo on January 25, 2004, 07:37:41 AM
Post by: odifiend on January 25, 2004, 10:14:27 AM
So an alternate solution is letting existing "clone" characters play differently or better yet having Nintendo make more franchises.
(Seriously the main reason I want new franchises is for Smash Brothers, which if you think about it- it is preposterous...lol)
Post by: vudu on January 26, 2004, 04:49:12 AM
Post by: odifiend on January 26, 2004, 06:17:11 AM
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Post by: odifiend on January 26, 2004, 09:28:27 AM
Post by: kennyb27 on January 26, 2004, 01:20:00 PM
QuoteI disagree. SSBM should stick to being a 1st/2nd party compilation.
I say that Namco should let Nintendo use all those characters and slap the ones that fit into the next Smash Brothers.
Post by: odifiend on January 26, 2004, 01:28:43 PM
Post by: vudu on January 27, 2004, 07:04:53 AM
Post by: Polemistis on January 27, 2004, 05:33:26 PM
I would like to see:
-Captain Olimar
-Koopa kid/baby bowser
-Wario
-Sonic
-Birdo
-Majora
-Dixie Kong
Post by: Dirk Temporo on January 28, 2004, 06:23:46 AM
Post by: Obiyo on April 13, 2004, 05:29:15 PM
-Kid Icarus
-Ridley
-Boshi ?
-a Custom Robo character ?
Also, I think characters appearing in a Smash Bros. game before their own could be pretty cool because you could build up hype about their game before it came out; kinda like a sneak peek at what the character's like. They could have a trophy system similar to SSB:M and entries like Marth's or Roy's, but would say "Coming Soon" at the bottom instead of "Japan Only". They could maybe put a vague release date, but not an exact one, just in case the game gets delayed.
Post by: KDR_11k on April 14, 2004, 12:19:07 AM
Post by: SavedbyaNinja on April 17, 2004, 07:33:44 AM
Post by: Draygaia on April 17, 2004, 11:00:38 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on April 17, 2004, 11:19:47 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 17, 2004, 11:23:36 AM
Post by: Draygaia on April 20, 2004, 01:41:38 PM
Characters:
Pokey
Tingle
regular ole metroid
Demon Gannondorf
OoT Fairy They're so hot!
Shigeru Miyamoto He has moves that are combinations of most characters
Humanoid Console (current generation)
Post by: MattVDB on April 22, 2004, 02:45:09 PM
Personally I like the idea of these little pests taking over the stage. It could provide for some unique battles.
Post by: jasonditz on May 05, 2004, 09:45:35 AM
More playable Pokemon: They're made for this kind of thing. Preferably a flying type, like Pidgeoto.
Neat 3rd party additions:
Pacman - Pacland style
Sonic
Kinikuman
Mega Man
Bub or Bob from Bubble Bobble
Also, what if we did put a couple of photorealistic people in the game. Shigeru was mentioned before, but what about some pro wrestler or some gangsta rapper? Wouldn't it be great to have Mario kicking Hulk Hogan's ass? Or better still, Link stabbing Snoop Dogg?
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 05, 2004, 10:22:44 AM
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Originally posted by: jasonditz
Also, what if we did put a couple of photorealistic people in the game. Shigeru was mentioned before, but what about some pro wrestler or some gangsta rapper? Wouldn't it be great to have Mario kicking Hulk Hogan's ass? Or better still, Link stabbing Snoop Dogg?
No...
Post by: jasonditz on May 05, 2004, 11:19:10 AM
Totally unannounced too, like after 20,000 matches all of a sudden Snoop Dogg or someone is a playable character. It'd totally throw people for a loop, like all those rumors about Sonic being available in SSBM. Everyone would call the person a liar. Make the person, as I said, photorealistic, so it looks like a bad photoshopping...
Post by: Rich on May 07, 2004, 11:50:31 AM
The person that i think would be really cool is Ridley. I also agree with some of you guys that we should get some of the Capcom guys like Mega Man(with all of the upgrades from MMX) and Viewtiful Joe. And the way I pictured Joes was that he could aim his power at one player, and he could charge them up too. so lets say he has a team mate so he uses the fast forward power on his teammate and he kicks butt that much faster. or there is an enemy running at Joe and joe uses the fast forward power and the guys runs of the cliff. the more he charges the faster and longer he remains like that.
Post by: jasonditz on May 07, 2004, 02:52:58 PM
Post by: jasonditz on May 07, 2004, 02:56:41 PM
Post by: Gamecubivore on May 07, 2004, 04:19:54 PM
You'd smack people with bug nets, dig holes and you'd grab people with your fishing pole. Of course, this is a terrible idea. . . But really. . . would any one you actually be against it, I mean, really?!
Seriouslly though, I see Wario, Kid Icarus and actually a Custom Robo character being serious possibilities. Wario I would bet on.
Post by: ib2kool4u912 on May 14, 2004, 06:54:58 PM
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Post by: jasonditz on May 14, 2004, 08:14:49 PM
Post by: nickmitch on May 31, 2004, 06:50:34 PM
Post by: blackfootsteps on June 05, 2004, 12:55:18 AM
And most importantly... TOAD!!!
Post by: ThePerm on July 18, 2004, 03:58:37 PM
Post by: Mumei on July 18, 2004, 04:01:56 PM
. He would've kicked serious ass. You know he looks badass in his trophy 
.
Post by: Dasmos on July 19, 2004, 07:07:59 PM
Wario
Waluigi
Petey pirahna
Goomba
Birdo
Captain Johnny Jones
Stalfos
Tootankoopa
Daisy
Diddy, lanky, dixie, chunky, kiddie
Baby Bowser, Lemmy. roy, wendy, morton jr., larry, iggy, ludwig von
Mallow Nimbus, Geno, Jinx (from Mario RPG)
Post by: KDR_11k on July 20, 2004, 12:20:17 AM
Post by: Dasmos on July 20, 2004, 01:09:22 AM
Post by: 3rdrocket on August 04, 2004, 09:18:02 AM
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Originally posted by: Mumei
GIVE ME MY META KNIGHT!!!!!!!! *calms down* Meta Knight got snubbed
Thats exactly what i was thinking. Put King Dee dee dee in it too.
They will prolly add a new pokemon and as much as I want Team rocket in it I know it wont happen.
The only new pokemon I can see them adding in is Blazekin
Yes Diddy should be in
Thumbs up to the animal crosing idea
and I also thought Gannon would be a good addition (you know his pig form)
Post by: Pikkcuber on August 05, 2004, 10:01:28 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 05, 2004, 03:28:42 PM
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Originally posted by: Dasmos
Well wario is a colour scheme for mario so you don't add him???
1) Wario has his own moves from his games...Daisy doesn't...
2) Ninty would need Squenix's permission to use SMRPG characters, so don't count on it...
3) Olimar would be a very ingenious SSB character...They got Ice Climbers to work, so using pikmin shouldn't be too tough
Post by: chain chomp on August 07, 2004, 02:23:56 AM
CAPTAIN OLIMAR
PIKMIN
SHY GUY
CHEEP CHEEP
MOTHER BRAIN
WART
RIDLRY
KRAID
EPONA
DARK SAMUS
Post by: Juno on August 07, 2004, 10:26:18 AM
Post by: Dirk Temporo on August 13, 2004, 01:33:07 PM
Post by: Shift Key on August 14, 2004, 01:05:48 AM
blol dbz. I MUST TALK BAD DUBBING AND REACH SUPER SAIYAN FIFTY TO DEFEAT BUU 3.11 FOR WORKGROUPS
Post by: nickmitch on August 14, 2004, 11:18:36 AM
Post by: Polemistis on August 16, 2004, 10:58:13 PM
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Originally posted by: TVman
Lloyd Irving
YGGRASILL + ZELOS!!
I know, it wont happen...
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on August 17, 2004, 02:54:24 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on August 17, 2004, 08:24:00 AM
Post by: evil intentions on August 17, 2004, 10:00:41 AM
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Originally posted by: PolemistisQuote
Originally posted by: TVman
Lloyd Irving
YGGRASILL + ZELOS!!
I know, it wont happen...
Kratos, Colette, + Presea.
Actually I think Baby Bowser, Shadow Mario, and Wario would be nice.
Post by: nickmitch on August 17, 2004, 12:09:30 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 17, 2004, 01:03:02 PM
Quote
Originally posted by: evil intentionsQuote
Originally posted by: PolemistisQuote
Originally posted by: TVman
Lloyd Irving
YGGRASILL + ZELOS!!
I know, it wont happen...
Kratos, Colette, + Presea.
What is with you taking all my favorite characters! >=O *fight to the death*
Post by: evil intentions on August 17, 2004, 05:08:02 PM
You're just too slow ^_~
Edit: Oh, and I forgot to mention that Kratos isn't my greatest favorite, like the other three, but I do like him and think he would kick butt in the game.
Post by: KDR_11k on August 17, 2004, 10:05:57 PM
Post by: Dirk Temporo on August 18, 2004, 02:07:16 PM
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Originally posted by: kirby_killer_dedede
Oh baby! Pikmin would rock...and their Up-B attack would make them jump hiiiiigh into the air (duh), and then they'd all home in on something and start chewing at it (i.e. the real game...what, it looks like chewing!).
I was actually thinking more along the lines of having Captain Olimar playable. Down-B would pull out a pikmin you could throw or use as a weapon, and regular B would blow his whistle, and do some sort of damage. Of course, that's just me.
Post by: UncleBob on October 10, 2004, 06:42:07 PM
Seriously (mostly), how about good ol' Kevin from Northridge... Also known as Captain N: The Game Master. He could have a "Zapper", "Run" and "Jump" powers, some kind of "Pause" feature worked in there (that pauses the background/enviroment only, not the other players...) and a "Duke call"... If you want a game that has all the Nintendo Mascots in it, you *must* have Captain N. He was the best Nintendo mascot ever.
Post by: Hostile Creation on November 01, 2004, 08:00:32 PM
Also important: It'd be nice to see updated version of the characters. Vacuum Luigi, a new Samus with the updated Gamecube possibilities, maybe a waterpack Mario, maybe a cel-shaded Link (instead of young Link), those additions would be nice. Maybe even new Fire Emblem characters.
I think generic enemies should stay out, including things like goombas, koopas, stalfos, space pirates, etc. Heroes and bosses only.
ThePerm, that is a wonderfully awesome idea for a stage. Wow. You should freaking mail that to Nintendo, cuz that would rock.
I thought an evil villains Smash Bros. would be cool, but releasing more villains on the regular game would work, too.
Captain Olimar using Pikmin is a definite character. Be hard to think of moves, but it has promise.
Edit: Oh, Shadow Mario could be cool, too. Maybe, combining another person's idea, have a transform between Baby Bowser and Shadow Mario, like Shiek/Zelda.
Post by: Spak-Spang on January 28, 2005, 06:27:35 AM
The numbers become far fewer when you think on those terms.
Here is an idea or two.
Olimar: Ok. Olimar has very little to no attacks on his own. However, his space suit allows him to soak up damage. When you do your down special attack you pull Pikmin out that fight with you. Now when you punch Pikmin jump out to give you further strength and further range.
Forward B gives you a toss move like Yoshi with the Pikmin. Different Pikmin effect players differently. Red-attach and do damage until shaken off and killed. The more you attach to them the higher % damage is taken off and faster. Other Pikmin can slow opponents down. Make their attacks weaker, or even disable special attacks.
Up B could give him a jet pack boost jump that could be cool. Pikmin on screen could do other cool things like throw them at an item and they will bring it to Olimar and such.
Post by: nickmitch on January 29, 2005, 09:15:51 AM
Post by: nemo_83 on January 29, 2005, 05:48:46 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on January 29, 2005, 09:26:32 PM
Why? Simplicity is beautiful.
And why no generic enemies? We already have Pokemon in there. Why no space pirates (or at least the Omega Pirate) or Metroids?
Post by: Hostile Creation on January 30, 2005, 07:12:35 AM
Post by: Spak-Spang on February 12, 2005, 07:34:01 AM
I think every character needs to be examined carefully before they add any. Make sure that character actually adds to the game and isn't just filler.
Another option that isn't that popular, but I would support is this: If a character is too similar to another character in design consider leaving the old character out and adding the new one.
Characters I would like to see, and I think they can create new gameplay mechanics with.
Vaccuum Luigi. He would be unique because his Vaccum attacks can drag weapons, items, and characters towards him or away from him. This Push vaccum attack could be very deadly for those that are trying to jump back to the field and then are pushed away from it. Since it is not a physical attack they do not get a new jump from the hit.
Olimar. I mentioned him earlier. Being not a main attacker himself, he must be used wisely. He starts out with a number of Pikmin, but he must pick others up to attack successfully. Olimar has the ability to completely control the board with his Pikmin, but he is a sitting duck.
Bowser REDESIGN. Take his triple jump away, give him more devistating attacks, and make him a mountain to try to move. I am talking 200% damage before you can really start attempting Smash Attacks. I want him to be also have a few faster attacks to make him more viable, and last an ability to point that fire breath up, down, left, right at opponents.
Balloon Fighter: Here is an idea...a character that doesn't jump at all. He just constantly floats. He would have to be redesigned in with a rotational harness, but the idea is press up and you float for however long you want. The catch? Pop his three balloons and his is land bound with no jump until he creates new balloons. However many balloons he has determines how high he can float.
I really can't think of any other characters right now...but you can see I want new characters that bring completely new concepts to the game, not just additions for now reason to be added.
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 12, 2005, 07:49:42 AM
And for Bowser Redesign they can just make GigaBowser playable! (without cheating)
Post by: KDR_11k on February 12, 2005, 08:38:12 AM
Post by: Spak-Spang on February 14, 2005, 03:29:31 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 14, 2005, 05:15:02 AM
You have to wonder just from where Link pulls his bombs, Mario his cape, and Peach, Toad, so Luigi pulling out a vacuum cleaner isn't *that* out-there... ^_^
Post by: Spak-Spang on February 14, 2005, 06:30:35 AM
It just accord to me several Nintendo franchises wouldn't work for playable characters, but they would work great for hidden levels.
Pikmin could have a great level with Pikmin able to be plucked and used as weapons, and Pikmin enemies such as the bird heads that pop out of the ground are there to attack you.
Stunt Racer FX, this retro level would be a great scrolling level in the vain of the Pokemon Float, and the F-Zero.
Luigi's Mansion could even be a great designed level.
I really liked what Nintendo did this generation bringing memorable scenes from different games and blending them into others. It made a more complete world. Luigi's Mansion level in Mario Kart was awesome.
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 14, 2005, 07:29:35 AM
Adding to the "Death to Clones" argument, all clones from Melee must be
1) Change of costume of regular character (Dr. Mario)
or
2) Given completely new moves (Ganondorf, etc)
or
3) Given a new makeover
The particular example I was thinking of for number 3 was Link and Young Link...Young Link should be turned into Wind Waker Link, and Link should be turned into Zelda XII Link...Give them some different moves (such as WW Link having the grappling hook and leaf) and they won't seem so much like clones anymore...
Post by: Spak-Spang on February 14, 2005, 12:00:28 PM
I would love a Cell Shaded Link that represented a more light-hearted Link. give him different powers.
I am thinking more powerful special attacks, but make him weaker as fighter.
Special moves could be.
Down Special- BombChus. These bombs can be used to roll after characters and climb walls. 3 second fuse on them.
Fire Arrow-Let young Link keep the Fire Arrow Upgrades they are pretty cool.
Up Arrow-Leaf. This could be used to float back to safety. You can activate it almost instantly after a smash attack has been delivered to give you a floating chance back. Or use it on the ground to Push people away from you, and return projectiles at people.
Foward Special could be a parry move like in WW.
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Older Link would have all the traditional moves he had before. Classic Bombs, Classic Up-Special, Perhaps Instead of the Bow-Arrow give him just his Boomerang, and let it stun people. Then give his Forward Special attack be a nice Sword Combo.
I like the idea of having the two graphically different link go up against eachother. That would rock.
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 14, 2005, 12:04:03 PM
Post by: Spak-Spang on February 14, 2005, 04:01:25 PM
I could see dropping a Bomb-Chu and charging up the Hurricane Spin, They either jump over one and get hit by the other, or potentially take both.
Post by: Hostile Creation on February 14, 2005, 08:08:56 PM
Post by: Dasmos on February 15, 2005, 12:28:28 AM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
More moving stages is definitely a plus...
Adding to the "Death to Clones" argument, all clones from Melee must be
1) Change of costume of regular character (Dr. Mario)
Dr Mario SHOULD remain exactly the same for he is the greatest character in SSBM..Mybe Mario can adopt some Mario Sunshine moves...eg.
B. Shoot water out of FLUDD while standing.
Across B. Using the Turbo nozzle to do a charge attack similar to foxes/falcos.
Up B. Maybe using the hover nozzle or the rocket nozzle as a second jump.
Down B. Maybe using the spin attack that he has but like in sunshine with the spin jump he can fire water in all directions.
Post by: Spak-Spang on February 15, 2005, 03:36:06 AM
I thought to give him Bomb-Chus, because it would give him a very different ranged attack from Adult Link. The idea with Cell Shaded Link is to give him more powerful special moves, but counter that with weaker regular attack.
Adult Link gets much stronger regular moves, but weaker special moves. Its kind of a Yin-Yang type approach to the characters.
1)I wouldn't mind giving Young Link the Bow and Arrow, Adult Link the Boomerang (with Stun ability)
2)Adult Link. Jumping Spin attack, Young Link Grounded Spin Attack, charge to Hurricane Spin Attack.
3)Young Link: Magic Leaf for floating, and for push opponents. New move for Adult Link -->Special.
4)Adult Link: Down B standard Bomb. Young Link: New Bomb-Chus.
Post by: Hostile Creation on February 15, 2005, 04:05:48 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on February 15, 2005, 05:27:42 AM
Post by: PaLaDiN on February 15, 2005, 05:35:19 AM
Post by: Spak-Spang on February 15, 2005, 10:39:14 AM
I do remember that you get Bomb-Chus in OoT to use as Link and Young Link...I think in the sand dungeon you have to use a Bomb-Chu as young link to solve a puzzle.
However, I thought I remembered using Bomb-Chus in Wind Waker. Like it was the second or last dungeon...I once again could be wrong, but for some reason I remember Cell-Shaded Bomb-chus, could someone help me out with my memory?
I have been trying to think of other characters to create. Ridley seems to be a fan favorite for Metroid fans but I just can't see how Ridley would work and create the right scale. I think it would be cool to have more villians for the more popular series.
If they added Pitt from Kid Ikaris (sp) then you could create a very cool Eggplant Wizard character.
As well Lil Mac could be a potential character. I would love to create him with all his special attacks being powerful Smash Attack Punchs, and he doesn't kick at all.
His level in adventure mode would be cool too because you could just have a First Person Perspective boxing match with 3 other Smash Brothers Characters...that would rock.
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 15, 2005, 11:03:32 AM
(Maybe you are thinking of the rats? ^_~)
2) I STILL think Ridley is way too big...And scaling him down would be stupid...
3) Little Mac would definitely work though...Just give him powerful close-range attacks to make up for lacking long-range ones...
Post by: Spak-Spang on February 15, 2005, 11:33:19 AM
Well, there SHOULD have been Bomb-Chus in Wind Waker. That was one of the most original and cool new ideas created in a Zelda game...and then they barely used them in OoT.
If you ask me, the one thing I worry about the new Zelda games is coming up with new original items. With Wind Waker it was easier in the cartoon world. The Leaf seemed to fit perfect and it added more to the game then you can imagine. Same with the Rope Grapple. Using it in combat to grab items from enemies was a blast.
Looking towards the new realistic Zelda I am worried about potential new items. I don't want more and more sword upgrades or new types of swords. I want weapons that feel unique and actually change the gameplay. Wind Waker and OoT really perfected the 3D Zelda game, so I am worried about original items and content.
One thing that does make me feel better is Nintendo blending the old Top-Down pespective into the 3D game. This could change the game drastically and give it that classic feel.
Oh and about Super Smash Brothers Melee...I am hoping more for an wireless DS version right now than a revolution version. I think with multiple screens the game can advance to a deeper battle system, and include larger levels. (Allowing for more player to fight against eachother.)
Post by: KDR_11k on February 16, 2005, 06:44:33 AM
Post by: nickmitch on February 16, 2005, 03:44:00 PM
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Originally posted by: Dasmos
Up B. Maybe using the hover nozzle or the rocket nozzle as a second jump.
That would be 3rd jump.
Post by: Mr. Segali on February 19, 2005, 10:52:29 AM
Like with the characters you guys have mentioned, I think it'd be a good idea if they expanded on some of the franchises that are already represented. It'd give it a bit more balance. Example: there's six Mario characters but only one from Kirby. Throw in Meta Knight and/or King Dedede. While you're at it, toss in:
Ridley
Kraid
Poo/Paula/Jeff
Diddy/Dixie
Samurai Goroh, etc.
Also, someone mentioned not adding generic enemies. I agree that they shouldn't be included individually, but how about in teams? Think Ice Climbers but with a Goomba, Para Koopa, and a Hammer Bro. I think that'd be awesome.
As for franchises/games to be added to the mix:
Kid Icarus
Custom Robo
Pikmin
Punch Out
and maybe get a bit obscure with:
Balloon Fight
Urban Champion
Hogan's Alley
Duck Hunt (dog and duck combo would rock)
And if Nintendo really wanted to throw in some third party characters into the mix, I'm sure they could arrange it. Nintendo characters are popping up everywhere else, why not the other way around? Of course, the third party characters should be very hidden and their count kept to a minimum:
Sonic
MegaManEXE (though I'd prefer classic MM)
Pac-Man (he's in Mario Kart arcade...)
Bomberman
But in all fairness, I'd be content with a new SSB game even if they added 0 new characters. SSB:M is easily my most-played GC game.
Post by: ThePerm on February 19, 2005, 01:26:53 PM
and on the note of link costumes.....
why not have more then just color changes(have em...please).,..but actually total make overs.....
i want ocarina link as a costume, old school alttp art style, Zelda 2 art style, Ocarina of time art style
and for young link have link as majora's mask link and wind waker link as an alternate costume... and maybe a more elven 8-bit style one too.
Post by: Spak-Spang on February 22, 2005, 04:07:58 AM
Wire Frame Guy would be cool too. It could be an unlocked secret character, and literally it has every special move in the game, but you don't know which it will do because it is random. Or it rotates which moves that the character uses each round.
Post by: KDR_11k on February 22, 2005, 05:57:20 AM
You mean like Mokujin or Charade in Tekken and Soul Calibur? Yeah, that'd be the best match for the wireframe.
Post by: Spak-Spang on February 22, 2005, 06:33:43 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 27, 2005, 07:55:00 AM
Isaac, the hero from Golden Sun...Mix of sword attacks and Psynergy (with Djinn)...
Vaati, the Ganon of the Four Sword Saga, with a transform move like Zelda's in order to switch between his human form from Minish Cap to his monster form...
And my personal stage wish list even though it doesn't really fit in this topic...
~Lost Woods (with Skull Kids, Moblins, and more)
~Outset Island (with giant pig that rampages around when struck)
~Atop castle in Wind Waker final battle
~Hyrule Castle (Classic or new)
~Inside/Outside Great Fox (fight inside until someone blown through wall, then outside)
~Starfox/Starwolf battle (jumping between arwings)
~Venus Lighthouse
~Saffron City (Classic or new)
~Big Blue (Return Stage remixed)
~Princess Peach's castle (not only with Bullet Bills, but also goombas and koopas)
~Super Mario 3 (World 1-4, ex. moving platforms)
~Luigi's Mansion (with ghosts)
~Mushroom Kingdom (Return Stage remixed)
~Jolly Roger Bay (Eel level from SM64)
~Fourside (Return Stage remixed)
~Brinstar w/ Ridley
~Dark Aether (with light crystal spheres...you take constant damage if you leave the areas and slowly gain health when you are in them)
~Kraid (Return Stage remixed)
~Pokemon Stadium (Outside)
~Pikmin (Forest-themed stage)
Post by: Robotor on February 27, 2005, 08:22:24 AM
If Wario was included, would it be platform Wario, or Warioware wario. Or maybe Warioman. Either way I have always wanted him in the series, he would meld pretty easily. It would be fun if he included all his transformation he's gone through, or his hats from his first game. Wario is such a changing character it would be hard to choose which one of his variations to go with.
King Dedede would be very cool. He could hover, use his hammer, inhale and spit out enemys, preform his high jump, and maybe even have some of his dark matter stuff. Meta knight would be extremly cool, after playing Nightmare in Dreamland as him it's easy to see how well he would work in Smash Bros. He controlled in a similiar fashion.
Bill I really like your stage ideas, especially the Dark Aether one. I think more moving stages would be great, even though my friends hate them.
Post by: Hostile Creation on February 27, 2005, 09:24:55 AM
I also insist that they finally make a Paper Mario stage, preferably one from Paper Mario 2. Maybe atop Doopliss's tower, with ghosts and him shapeshifting into the playing characters and whatnot.
Post by: nickmitch on February 27, 2005, 12:28:23 PM
Post by: Don'tHate742 on February 27, 2005, 12:55:03 PM
Other characters would be nice but if they didn't include Roy; I would probably murder someone/thing/nothing.
Post by: Hostile Creation on February 27, 2005, 04:02:43 PM
Post by: Don'tHate742 on February 28, 2005, 02:11:49 AM
Also the ability to catch things....easily would be nice. I forsee a situation where a teammate is getting whooped, while your handling your business with another enemy. You have the bat, so you deal with your enemy, then throw the bat to your teammate across the map (like Hyrule Castle). They catch it in mid-air, turn and throw the bat at the enemy, or land and use it properly. The way you turn in mid-air should be changed, becuase you cant without doing a special, if I remember correctly. Also, I hate getting hit by those damn bomb-oms.
For throwing people, there should be a smash throw; becuase really, throws aren't that great at all unless there at 170% or something. So you grab the person then perfrom a smash throw, which should be hard to do so only advanced players can do it. Imagine Mario grabing someone, but instead of just twirling and throwing, he spins really fast using the person to injure other enemies as he moves accross the board (in the direction you tell him to) then he throws the person into oblivion. Samus's up throw should be her slamming the person against the ground with her grappling hook so they bounce up (whatever the damage percentage the person has) the she jumps up and bicycle kicks the person way up into the air. Speaking of samus, she should be able to grab people out of the air with her grappling beam (same with link). Also mid-air throws would be nice.
I think i've said this before but I always thought it would be better if everyone could some how transform. Like young link could transform into Zora link as well as Goron and Deku...each balanced and with there own specials (though I do like the idea of cel-shaded link). Mario could turn into fire Mario (obviously with more powers), or the mario that can turn people to stone, or even paint or metal mario. Samus could do it on a minor level where one of her moves could be switched in and out. She could fire ice, wave, and magma beams; along with each special missle combo. It might get alittle tricky with those characters that have remained the same over their game life. Link could whip out the biggoron sword and maybe even his hover boots. But anyways, this would make for more decked out charachters that are all around the same, which allows for more crazy strategic battles, but also insansely dangerous gameplay, especially coupled with items and level interactivity. It would keep everyone on there toes.
Post by: Hostile Creation on February 28, 2005, 04:17:47 AM
When my good friend and I have bob-omb matches (all bob-ombs, very high, in Whispy Woods) we set two Pichus. Pichu rocks, and is a definite keeper.I know what you mean with Marth/Roy, but that's take the wind out of their sails, to a degree. I use Marth, and know how useful it can be, but a large part of the strategy relies on who you pick. I think if they have something like a parry for everyone it should be extremely hard to execute and happen more by coicidence than anything else. Like catching items is now.
However, I'm not sure a smash throw should be that hard. That gives another advantage to senior players, who already have skill. I think it should certainly be possible for all players, just a little harder to pull off, maybe only 1.5 or 2 times as strong as a normal throw.
Post by: SgtShiversBen on February 28, 2005, 05:27:36 AM
Post by: ThePerm on February 28, 2005, 05:54:56 AM
imagine if you had to choose between those links....
Post by: Don'tHate742 on February 28, 2005, 01:42:37 PM
Post by: Spak-Spang on March 01, 2005, 08:02:14 AM
What I would like to see is about 5 generic level designs. These would be just simple levels that can played without much gimmick to the game. I think a great theme for these levels would be giant toy level. What I mean is, since the story seems to be playing with your toys (capturing a child's imgination) lets run with it.
Have the generic levels be outside in a backyard. On a Kitchen Table. Setup around a Lego base, and a few more as such.
Then the game themed levels I want a cool gimmick for all the levels. Like your Athers example. It makes the level play differently.
I would love a Mario Level that you can warp using pipes. Even set up combos where you can Smash attack someone up or down a pipe and warp them away from you.
How about another level which tears in reality are affecting the play. These levels random tears appear and you can jump into these warp tears to get away or knock people into them...where you pop out nobody knows.
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 01, 2005, 09:22:48 AM
I am still saddened by the fact that the warp pipes were taken out from the Mushroom Kingdom stage... ;_; They should bring them back for sure...
How about another level which tears in reality are affecting the play. These levels random tears appear and you can jump into these warp tears to get away or knock people into them...where you pop out nobody knows.
This could work for a Yoshi's Story or Paper Mario level, in which the background rips...That would make the most sense and we'd get another fun little level to boot!
Post by: Spak-Spang on March 01, 2005, 10:15:59 AM
You could even have the tears last the entire round. The more holes in the level the more likely you will knock someone out or be able to escape attack.
I also wouldn't mind a level that has foreground objects to hide what you are doing. Nothing extreme, but say in the backyard level or a Pikmin level have blades of grass that hide some of he action.
Last if they could design special rules for top-down perspective play, it would be cool to do an oldskool throwback to some top-down games. You can have an old school Zelda level, and a level based on Earthbound as well top down.
Post by: Don'tHate742 on March 01, 2005, 11:19:53 AM
I am taking this too far....but it would be nice if there were levels that did more than provide a fighting platform. Maybe a mini-adventure ala SSBM.
Anyways a coop adventure mode and coop event mode are a must. Now about the player limit in those coop levels (2...3...4?). Who knows. It would seem more intimate (not in a sexual way) if there were only 2 players as oppose to 4. Then again look at 4 swords....
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 01, 2005, 11:30:24 AM
No, this isn't taking it too far...I'd love to see this, be it an actual multiplayer map or an adventure level (Fighting with Samus or another enemy until you have the final battle aboard the ship)...I personally love levels that make you pay attention to how your environment is changing as much as on your opponents (Big Blue, Rainbow Ride, etc)
And I, too, want a 2-player adventure mode...
Post by: ThePerm on March 05, 2005, 08:21:36 AM
theres a non geocities pic...my server is back up thank baelzebub
Post by: ryancoke on December 07, 2006, 02:21:23 AM
Ryu
The ninja gaiden dude
One of the Resident Evil Characters
Reggie
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