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Title: Worst GCN Games of ALL Time
Post by: dus on December 21, 2003, 01:18:48 PM
I personally think that most of the Mario Party games are pretty lame. Although, Mario Party 2 was very engaging. Another game, while more dissapointing then stupid, was Soul Calibur II. It was fun for the first few hours, but got pretty repetitive quickly. I think it was a little overhyped (Electronic Gaming Monthly  gave it a rating of 10, 10, and a 9.)
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Post by: Infernal Monkey on December 21, 2003, 01:42:28 PM
But it's a fighting game. You fight over and over again, of course it's going to get repetitive. That's why you've gotta bust out the funky move list and lay down some kickin' special moves, wikky wikky wa.
I'll go with Dark Summit as the worst GameCube game, because you know... Virtually no gameplay, random crashing, lagging voice samples, strange graphics (the screen kinda breaks up into lines when the frame rate is chugging) and silly poo controls. The end.
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Post by: Aussie Ben PGC on December 21, 2003, 01:51:21 PM
Spyro the Dragon: Enter the Dragonfly made my soul weep.
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Post by: Mario on December 21, 2003, 02:35:43 PM
I personally love Mario Party games, but thought 4 was the worst, i recently played 5 though, and it's already my favourite Mario Party game, i love it, it's heaps better than 4. Soul Calibur 2 is one of the best multiplayer games, i love SC2. Oh well.

Personally, i havent really played many crappy games, so the worst game i've played is Rogue Leader. I cant stand the gameplay, sure it has awesome graphics, but i hate it.
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Post by: Berny on December 21, 2003, 02:42:36 PM
My vote goes to both Sonic games as well as the upcoming "Sonic Heroes" which will require a sudden miracle on behalf of Sonic Team to suddenly become a good game. Sonic is dead to me.
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Post by: KnowsNothing on December 21, 2003, 02:49:09 PM
GO TO STORE AND BUY SONIC MEGA COLLECTION!!111!!!1  That is where they are hiding Sonic's life!  True story!  And if you don't like them, then when was sonic ever alive?

But the worst game in my collection has to be Home Run King.  *shudders*  But it was a birthday gift for my brother, so I lost no money.  But I did lose 50 bux when I bought Agent Under Fire.  Biggest mistake of my young life....*weeps*
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Post by: joshnickerson on December 21, 2003, 02:50:48 PM
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Originally posted by: Berny
Berny, second in command of the dragon squad. Responsible for breading and taking care of dragons


"Breading" dragons? Does that mean you roll them around in bread crumbs and bake them to a delicious golden brown?

Probably not the WORST, but Billy Hatcher seriously bummed me out. It started out pretty fun, but soon the damn camera started to seriously piss me off. Why Sonic Team couldn't just simply "borrow" the Mario Sunshine or Zelda camera is beyond me.

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Post by: BlkPaladin on December 21, 2003, 03:12:23 PM
I really didn't like Die Hard: Vandetta or The sum of all Fears. But then again I don't really like first person shooters to begin with and these were bottom feeders.
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Post by: Infernal Monkey on December 21, 2003, 03:21:30 PM
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Originally posted by: KnowsNothing
GO TO STORE AND BUY SONIC MEGA COLLECTION!!111!!!1  That is where they are hiding Sonic's life!  True story!  And if you don't like them, then when was sonic ever alive?



Knows knows the true story. Indeed, go pick up a copy of Sonic Mega Collection. Then get Sonic Advance 2.
I'm a gigantic obsessed Sonic fanboy, but I'll admit Sonic Adventure 2: Battle is one of the crappiest GameCube games yet. Apart from the Sonic and Shadow levels, it's trash.

.. Dark Summit still wins worst GameCube game award, though. >_>
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Post by: THE_BLINK_EFFECT on December 21, 2003, 03:35:34 PM
the worst Gamecube game ive played would have to be conflict desert storm personally think that the mario party games are great but they can get a bit boring in 1 player but are awesome in 4 player with a bunch of freinds.
Title: RE:Worst GCN Games of ALL Time
Post by: Berny on December 21, 2003, 03:38:54 PM
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Originally posted by: joshnickerson
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Originally posted by: Berny
Berny, second in command of the dragon squad. Responsible for breading and taking care of dragons


"Breading" dragons? Does that mean you roll them around in bread crumbs and bake them to a delicious golden brown?




Actually yes. That is my responsibility. Damn it Swordsplay. See this is what happens when you don't READ what you paste into stuff.

And KN, Sonic's li'l heart does indeed beat in the mega collection.
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Post by: bubba23 on December 21, 2003, 04:01:17 PM
I'm surprised no one has mentioned Charlie's Angels or Aquaman, which are prime candidates for worst video game of the year overall (not just the GC). The worst Gamecube game I've owned was WWE Crush Hour, a (really) poor man's Twisted Metal.
Title: RE:Worst GCN Games of ALL Time
Post by: dus on December 21, 2003, 04:15:41 PM
Yeah, those do stink. I've never played those games, so that's why I didn't mention them. I HATE Crush Hour, though
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Post by: Ms.Pikmin on December 21, 2003, 04:28:59 PM
Universal Studios is hands down the worst game I've played.  Thank God we only rented it.



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Post by: Cap on December 21, 2003, 04:29:44 PM
i have to agree with bubba that charlies angles would probably be one of the worst games. i've never even played the game, but i havent heard a single good thing about it.

i cant even believe that games like mario party, sonic, and desert storm have been mentioned. they might not be AAA titles, but they are far from the worst that gamecube has to offer.  
Title: RE:Worst GCN Games of ALL Time
Post by: Hostile Creation on December 21, 2003, 06:00:43 PM
None of you have ever played Darkened Skye.  I hide it in my closet and don't consider part of my collection.  Someday I will use it as a coaster.
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Post by: Deguello on December 21, 2003, 06:06:04 PM
Charlie's Angels is a disease in electronic form.  Whatever game you think is the worst GC game, Charlie's Angels is worse.  Even if you go into the game expecting the worst, the game might still surprise you.  It is that bad.  I would not wish that game on my worst enemy.
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Post by: KDR_11k on December 21, 2003, 08:23:56 PM
I'd say Charlie's Angels or Aquaman. It's always a bad sign when a serious review sounds like it's from Something Awful...
Title: RE: Worst GCN Games of ALL Time
Post by: Plugabugz on December 22, 2003, 01:27:18 AM
2 if my cube friends like Charlie's Angels MORE than Metroid Prime!

The worst game has to be Crash Bandicoot: The Wrath of Cortex.
Camera system is appalling, unresponsive buttons, framerate issues, characters move too slowly, too linear (5 hours and you near 100% completion) and the fact that the Crash Franchise progressed @ number 3  (By water usage), then regressed by disappearing in 4 and 5.
4 and 5 represent exactly what a development in a franchise shouldn't do.
It's like asking Samus Aran to play without a Power Suit after Prime.
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Post by: KDR_11k on December 22, 2003, 05:03:59 AM
Plugabugz: Do the human gene pool a favour.
Title: RE: Worst GCN Games of ALL Time
Post by: Ian Sane on December 22, 2003, 06:23:38 AM
I keep up with reviews and tend to not buy really crappy games so my collection is pretty much all quality and I haven't played any of those REALLY bad games like Charlie's Angels, Universal Studios or Aquaman.  The worst game I own is Rebel Strike and the multiplayer for Rogue Leader alone makes that a worthwhile purchase.

The worst Cube game I've ever played (and one of the worst ever in my opinion) is BMX XXX.  I rented it once out of curiousity and man did I regret that.  Bad controls, boring level design, and crappy graphics.  The poor graphics really surprised me since part of the appeal of the game was that it had nudity.  Who cares about seeing boobs if they're so blocky?  Jugga's boobs in Conker looked better and that's an N64 game.

Sonic Adventure 2 is also one of the worst Cube games I've played but it's more of an inconsistent game than a bad one.  Most of the game was quite fun it's just that the treasure hunting levels were just SO BAD that it hurt the rest of the game.
Title: RE: Worst GCN Games of ALL Time
Post by: Bloodworth on December 22, 2003, 07:11:42 AM
Yeah this is a poll, the responses have been decent though, so we'll let it survive and see whether it goes down the tubes or not.
Title: RE:Worst GCN Games of ALL Time
Post by: dus on December 22, 2003, 07:23:20 AM
Isn't it more like a discussion? Anyways, this thread I made is BORING, so you can go ahead and close it up, i guess.
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Post by: mouse_clicker on December 22, 2003, 07:49:44 AM
He meant that even though it is a poll (asking people what they think is the worst Gamecube game), it has a pretty good discussion going, so he'll let it go a little longer and see if it lasts.
Title: RE: Worst GCN Games of ALL Time
Post by: Smashman on December 22, 2003, 09:02:59 AM
Sonic Adventure 2: Battle is a very underrated game. VG magazines give it 60s and 70s, but it deserved a good 90. However, people complain about SMS's camera, SA2's was worse, but the game was still solid, IMO.

Agent Under Fire was OK, but Enter the Matrix is one of the worst games, ever!
Title: RE:Worst GCN Games of ALL Time
Post by: animex on December 22, 2003, 09:18:17 AM
i got one. the worst game all time mario kartd and the best game all time universal studio, oh wait... typed opposite ;P
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Post by: manunited4eva22 on December 22, 2003, 11:57:30 AM
God I was waiting for someone to mention universal studios.  I really want to know who bought that game.  I just really need to know.  Even better yet, did ANYONE enjoy it?  That game put's the thing PIAC got banned for to shame.
Title: RE: Worst GCN Games of ALL Time
Post by: Round Eye on December 22, 2003, 12:19:17 PM
I would have to say that there are a lot of crappy games out there.

I played Zoo Cube once, please don't laugh, and it had to be one of the most dull games I have ever played.  

Thank god it was only a rental, but even then I still feel a little burned.

The lion roar was kinda cool though, raauugh.

Title: RE:Worst GCN Games of ALL Time
Post by: Berny on December 22, 2003, 02:06:59 PM
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Originally posted by: Smashman
Sonic Adventure 2: Battle is a very underrated game. VG magazines give it 60s and 70s, but it deserved a good 90. However, people complain about SMS's camera, SA2's was worse, but the game was still solid, IMO.

Agent Under Fire was OK, but Enter the Matrix is one of the worst games, ever!



My problem with the 3D Sonics wasn't the camera (although that was a factor). It just seems to me that the game doesn't know what it wants to be. It's sorta like the old Sonic games in which your main goal is to race as fast as possible to the end and after 2 stages, kick Robotnick's metal cheeks to kingdom come. In the Sonic Adventure games, there's a little of that but it also seems like its part adventure game as well (hence the title). It's two essential parts are at conflict with each other: you cannot race through a stage and explore it at the same time.

But that's just my opinion...
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Post by: The Omen on December 22, 2003, 02:53:06 PM
Hunter the reckoning is the worst i own.  I bought it for $9, so it didnt hurt too bad.  But the worst game out there is Universal studios.  What a stupid game.  In all reality, did anyone, upon hearing about this game, consider buying it?  I knew it was going to suck, and played it at EB just to confirm my gut feeling.
Title: RE: Worst GCN Games of ALL Time
Post by: KDR_11k on December 22, 2003, 10:36:01 PM
I'm one of those review-first people, so I'm pretty unburned (raw?). The worst game I witnessed in person was Dangerous Vaults (freeware, but I won't provide a link. Search Something Awful if you really want it.) but that's not GC... Overall it seems the GC got very few truly bad games.
Title: RE:Worst GCN Games of ALL Time
Post by: akdaman1 on December 22, 2003, 10:59:33 PM
Well TBH I havent played in BAD games , I look up what games I buy and read reviews etc

TBH I dont have any really bad games , but I will list these games -

Enternal Darkness
REmake
Zelda WW
Pikmin  

These games were good but I was really burned because I was excpecting so much more. I was about to put MP in there but then I dont wanna be murdred now do I ?

P.S - These games are good but the topic thread is Worst games on GCN , not Bad games on GCN .
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Post by: KDR_11k on December 23, 2003, 02:55:48 AM
Pfft. Put Tales in there and you're dead within a second, though.
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Post by: kennyb27 on December 23, 2003, 05:14:51 AM
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TBH I dont have any really bad games , but I will list these games -

Enternal Darkness
REmake
Zelda WW
Pikmin

These games were good but I was really burned because I was excpecting so much more.

I have to disagree with a couple of your opinions here.

After reading reviews of Eternal Darkness, I was impressed but not enough to go out and buy it.  Later when I saw it (new) for $14.99 I had to pick it up.  I went home and in two days time I had clocked 16 hours and had beaten one of the three "tracks."  Never was I so impressed with a game (incredible combination of gameplay, story, graphics, etc).

Wind Waker: I pre-ordered this game a full two months before it was released.  When I got it, I popped it in, and I was immediately immersed in the world around Link.  

With Pikmin, I didn't really know what to expect so I went out and bought it (on sale, $39.99, I believe) and I was very impressed by the idea of the game and was mesmorized for quite a while. (If it wasn't for my SSBM addiction, I would've finished the game a heck of a lot quicker.)

I can't comment on RE since I've never been a fan and didn't even play it.
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Post by: DrZoidberg on December 23, 2003, 08:21:25 AM
i guess you don't work in a gas station then kennyb27.
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Post by: jime on February 01, 2004, 11:09:58 AM
I agrre with Ms. Pikmin,Universal studios is the absolutley the wort game ever.
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Post by: Actraiser on February 02, 2004, 02:13:44 AM
Im just flabbergasted that someone could say Soul Calibur II or Rebel Strike
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Post by: thecubedcanuck on February 02, 2004, 04:11:16 AM
Super Mario Sunshine and the HULK
Title: RE: Worst GCN Games of ALL Time
Post by: KDR_11k on February 02, 2004, 06:35:35 AM
Agreed, SMS was one of the most un-fun games I played. It's the opposite of fun. Well, at least after a few hours of playing.
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Post by: mouse_clicker on February 02, 2004, 06:45:56 AM
Heh, that reminds me- I have a friend who was a total XBox fan. He's a big guy, plays on the football team, huge fan of XBox Live, liked almost only violent shooters. Then one day he comes running to me telling me that he played Super Mario Sunshine and he had some of the most fun he'd ever had with it. I just thought it was funny that Gamecube owners could hate SMS so much while a guy who's the complete opposite of its target audience could love it.  
Title: RE: Worst GCN Games of ALL Time
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 02, 2004, 06:59:45 AM
It's because people set their expectations too high...My only gripe was that there was no snow level, but we know why that wouldn't work...

SMS: 9/10
Title: RE:Worst GCN Games of ALL Time
Post by: PaLaDiN on February 02, 2004, 07:11:15 AM
Worst games I own are SFA and PoP.

I forced myself to beat them and now they're locked away somewhere, out of sight, so the memories don't resurface.
Title: RE: Worst GCN Games of ALL Time
Post by: Uglydot on February 02, 2004, 08:56:34 AM
Hmm...Turok anyone?  I picked it up and it was worth the under 10 dollars I paid... no more.  Um, that monopoly game.  Worms.
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Post by: Smadte on February 02, 2004, 09:18:02 AM
SMS is the exact opposite of un-fun! That is an awesome game, and it is VERY much under-rated. The worst game I've played on GCN is RE0. What a piece of crap - gorgeous graphics, but everything else is so lame and overused.
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Post by: Inkwell on February 02, 2004, 12:37:23 PM
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Agreed, SMS was one of the most un-fun games I played. It's the opposite of fun. Well, at least after a few hours of playing



I completely agree with this one. This game has to be the worst Mario game I've ever played, everything about the game is just boring.

Anyway, I think most of the Nintendo produced games suck.  
Title: RE: Worst GCN Games of ALL Time
Post by: Ian Sane on February 02, 2004, 12:47:58 PM
If you think most Nintendo produced games suck you either bought the wrong console or you're a troll.
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Post by: mouse_clicker on February 02, 2004, 01:16:08 PM
I have to agree with Ian- you've got to be pretty stupid to buy a Gamecube knowing you hate Nintendo games.
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Post by: rpglover on February 02, 2004, 01:26:06 PM
"Worst games I own are SFA and PoP"

you didnt like prince of persia- thats one of the best games to come out on consoles this year (in my opinion)
i would say this is one of the front runners for game of the year right behing zelda wind waker- i loved prince
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Post by: Termin8Anakin on February 02, 2004, 02:09:26 PM
I've been pretty fortunate not to have played Universal Studios, Charlie's Angels, Darkened Skye, Hunter the Reckoning, or Turok, etc.
I can't say whether they are the worst games on GC or not cause I've not played them, and I sometimes actually like some of the crappy games, so I'm just gonna say what the worst GC game in my collection is.
And that game is:

Harry Potter - Quidditch World Cup.

It's quite a good concept, but the way they pulled off the actual game-playing was quite shite.
The only enjoyable bit is playing seeker, cause you don't have to concentrate on performing stupid bullet-time moves.
In other positions, all you have to do to move is press forward, left and right. And then press dodge, and throw at the appropriate times.

The game isn't the worst on the GC scene, but it's the worst in my collection. And my sister bought it, so it wasn't a total loss on my part.
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Post by: Bill Aurion on February 02, 2004, 02:27:43 PM
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Originally posted by: Inkwell
Anyway, I think most of the Nintendo produced games suck.

Yeah!  I have no idea of what a good game is either!!!  DOA: Xtreme Volleyball and Halo for me!
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Post by: Inkwell on February 02, 2004, 03:37:49 PM
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If you think most Nintendo produced games suck you either bought the wrong console or you're a troll.


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I have to agree with Ian- you've got to be pretty stupid to buy a Gamecube knowing you hate Nintendo games.


Well I guess you're right , I certainly do believe I've bought the wrong system. At first I wanted the GC, thought it was going to be great. C'mon its Nintendo...Ive been a fan since the good old NES days, how could they go wrong? Well the answer is the Gamecube...it not all that great IMO. I probably would have been better off getting an X-Box....but that just crazy talk. Honestly I don't find that Nintendo is really taken advantage of GC.


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Yeah! I have no idea of what a good game is either!!! DOA: Xtreme Volleyball and Halo for me!


Your kidding me right...

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Post by: mouse_clicker on February 02, 2004, 03:49:11 PM
You do have a PS2 or XBox, right? There's no point in confining yourself to a system you don't like.

And Bill was being sarcastic.
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Post by: Inkwell on February 02, 2004, 04:00:40 PM
I have PS2....I really don't like that system all to much either. Maybe I just don't like this generation of games, the most of them just don't spark my intrest. But my DC seems to get the most play though....why did you have to die? WHY!

Bill was being sarcastic...NO?
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Post by: Deguello on February 02, 2004, 04:13:53 PM
I can't believe Super Mario Sunshine is even in this thread.  Some may not care for it, but to call it the WORST game on the GCN is pretty ballsy, and forthwith wrong.

The Sonic games may be a bit faulty, but to say they are worse than Beyblade?  Than Nickelodeon Party Blast?  Than SCORPION KING?  THAN CHARLIE'S ANGELS?  Quit scraping the top and middle of the barrel.  Start on the bottom for the worst titles.
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Post by: KnowsNothing on February 02, 2004, 04:24:24 PM
Well, alot of people posting here choose by  what they own, and most people don't own games that are REALLY crappy (there are exceptions of course)..  So I would expect some pretty good games on this list.  but seriously....Mario sunshine?!

Worst game in my collection is "Agent Under Fire."  Stupid EA tricked me by making "Goldeneye" really good.  Stupid EA.  I hate them. *har-umph*
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 02, 2004, 04:39:20 PM
"really good"?

How about just taking Goldeneye and running it through a JuiceMan to deliver garbage.  Agent Under Fire was one the worst gameplay experiences I ever had.  Why won't you let me aim with the left-analog, EA?  Fuq Yoo EA.

I have more fun eating a Hungry-Man TV dinner.
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Post by: PaLaDiN on February 02, 2004, 04:46:22 PM
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you didnt like prince of persia- thats one of the best games to come out on consoles this year (in my opinion)
i would say this is one of the front runners for game of the year right behing zelda wind waker- i loved prince

Why do people like it? I have yet to see one good reason it doesn't suck. This as opposed to:

Horrible gameplay.
Horrible fighting.
Horrible lack of difficulty.
Horrible glitches.
Horrible replayability.
Horrible story.
Horrible linearity.
Horrible lack of depth.
Horrible ending.

I mean, even SFA just had horrible replayability and fighting, and I hate it too.

The only good things about it IMO were the animation/graphics and the way the fighting looks even if you're just pressing the same buttons over and over and over again. But then again, SFA had those too.
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Post by: rpglover on February 02, 2004, 05:16:08 PM
i guess you didnt like PoP then- i myself loved the game for some of the reasons you hated the game
i thought first and foremost the gameplay was great- it reminded me of one of my personal favorite games on the ps2-ICO- which is in the same vein of PoP- an enviornmental puzzle game- i will say the game was a tad on the easy side- but it was intentional- if there was no time controling in the game it probably would be more difficult since you would have to attempt jumps and puzzles again if you messed up- and i thought the combat in the game was great- sure it was a little repetative but it wasnt that bad- once you found the patterns to the enemies it became easier- and i found that the inclusion of time control was very interesting- you could turn back time if you mistimed a jump, enemies surrounded you, you get hit from behind, and so on- and last of all- i thought the story was great- its nothing to critically praise but it tied everything together and i found it rather good- and the ending to me was satisfying (although a little expected)

also- what glitches do you speak about in the game- i found none when i played- but i have heard there were glitches
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Post by: PaLaDiN on February 02, 2004, 07:10:48 PM
You're the first person I've ever seen sticking up for PoP's fighting. The fighting was truly atrocious.

Just because it was intentionally easy doesn't mean its difficulty was a good thing. I mean, PLEASE explain why they had all those visions. I dare you to come up with an explanation for that. Personally, I felt INSULTED seeing vision after vision telling me "do this exactly this way to get to the next fight". I'm not a retard, Ubisoft, thank you very much. I started skipping all those insults to my intelligence and it was still too easy.

I get the feeling the time control stuff was put in as an afterthought, just to make the fights possible to complete, with all the crappy stuff that happens to you in fights that you don't have control over. Don't even get me started on that whiny princess bitch.

A couple glitches I experienced:
Princess collapsed on a level floor for no reason, dead from a heart attack apparently. No enemies around.
Tried to save near the end of the game, but it didn't save properly... got caught in a vicious cycle of black screens, weird sounds and automatic loading and saving and ended up in a completely different place, probably because I had to skip the cutscene.
Final boss - I'm giving Ubisoft credit here by labelling this as a glitch. I sincerely hope it wasn't put there on purpose. Giving them the benefit of the doubt here is the only thing stopping me from killing all their employees to stop the spread of stupid genes.

And one more thing - no subtitles. How hard could it be to copy and paste the stupid script their voice actors use? Probably not a problem for you, but I'm hearing-impaired so this just cements my point of view that PoP is the worst a game can possibly get. Superman 64 had to be better than this.
Title: RE: Worst GCN Games of ALL Time
Post by: KDR_11k on February 02, 2004, 08:35:50 PM
I didn't like SMS, so I think it's a valid addition. That dislike wasn't of the "Mario 64 was better" kind (never played that game), I hated it because... well, I hated every moment playing it after a few hours. Those few hours were mostly coming to grips with the controls, etc. It'd be better with checkpoints so you don't have to go through the entire level again when dying at the end.
Soul Calibur II's weapon master deserves a dishonourable mention as well, no game since Counterstrike made me this angry. I hate games doing that.
Title: RE:Worst GCN Games of ALL Time
Post by: Armed on February 02, 2004, 08:44:21 PM
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Originally posted by: Inkwell
I have PS2....I really don't like that system all to much either. Maybe I just don't like this generation of games, the most of them just don't spark my intrest. But my DC seems to get the most play though....why did you have to die? WHY!

Bill was being sarcastic...NO?


Yeah same here... I have like 4 or 5 games that i bought which i have not finished yet; they either feel boring, or redundant for some reason.  

FREE KEVIN
Title: RE: Worst GCN Games of ALL Time
Post by: thecubedcanuck on February 03, 2004, 02:58:06 AM
My biggest beefs with sunshine were the fact it was monotonous as hell and the f'in camera, worst camera ever IMO.
I enjoyed Turok ten times more than sunshine.
Title: RE: Worst GCN Games of ALL Time
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 03, 2004, 03:02:09 AM
If you could detect my sarcasm, you win a cookie...

And I must have had a better copy of SMS, because the camera didn't affect me at all...(Turok more fun than Mario, lol)
Title: RE: Worst GCN Games of ALL Time
Post by: Uglydot on February 03, 2004, 08:37:22 AM
I only had an issue with the camera on one shine.  Other than that it was fine.
Title: RE:Worst GCN Games of ALL Time
Post by: mouse_clicker on February 03, 2004, 10:28:18 AM
The camera in SMS was perfect- if I wasn't happy with its placement at any time, I could move it to the perfect position. In my opinion, every third person game should have a camera like SMS's and WW's.

Also, SMS handled almost exactly like SM64 (which was most people's biggest gripe about the game, that it didn't change much from its predecessor)- I find it very hard to believe you could like one and not the other. I think Deguello's right- is SMS REALLY worse than Universal Studios or Charlie's Angels? It looks more like you're just trying to ruffle some feathers.
Title: RE: Worst GCN Games of ALL Time
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 03, 2004, 10:34:01 AM
Though I love SMS, remember it's overall scope was smaller than SM64, since Mario did not fly nor swim "freely," which in turn limited the scope and variety in the stages.
Title: RE: Worst GCN Games of ALL Time
Post by: Mario on February 03, 2004, 10:50:45 AM
The camera is Super Mario Sunshine is my favourite camera in a videogame ever. It just feels so awesome having so much control of it, and i feel so 1337 when im hovering over something really high in the air while rotating the camera skillfully, the camera is part of the gameplay. Ah, what wonderful draw distances SMS has. I think Super Mario 64 is better though, because controlling Mario in SMS (running around) was way too "tight" and "fast", like you could turn around in an instant when you turn the other way, and you can run around in circles faster.. etc.. bleh it's hard to explain, i noticed the same thing when comparing OoT and MM to Wind Waker also, which is one reason i like OoT and MM better than Wind Waker, the moving around was more "solid" in OoT and MM, compared to Wind Waker, same as Super Mario 64 compared to SMS. Also, SM64 has way more variety than SMS in the levels, and lot's of other things that i can't be bothered explaining. SM64 > SMS > 95% of games out there.

Anyway, I might get flamed for this or whatever, but personally i think Animal Crossing is the worst game in my collection of 27 GCN games. It's way too boring, i enjoyed it for a day, but then i got really bored, and haven't played it since. Meh. I know it's not the worst, but it's the worst game i own.
Title: RE: Worst GCN Games of ALL Time
Post by: Ian Sane on February 03, 2004, 11:05:50 AM
Super Mario Sunshine's camera was better than Super Mario 64's but still far from perfect.  It still did the same thing that nearly every camera does that just royally pisses me off: it got stuck on things.  If something was in the way of the camera's path the camera was stuck on it like a real life camera man would be.  If something got in the way of Mario all I could see was a silhouette which was ultimately pretty useless for figuring out where I was in relation to things.  I don't know why but a lot of cameras in games operate as if they're a real physical object that thus have to manuever around other objects.  That's ridiculous.  It's a game.  The camera should be able to do whatever I want it to.

When I first played Ocarina of Time I thought it was the perfect camera until I played Wind Waker which truly does have the perfect camera.  I can move the camera where I want and if I want to go behind my character I press a button and the camera instantly teleports behind.  It doesn't rotate around and get stuck on sh!t it teleports to where it should be.  Super Mario Sunshine's was decent but not even Ocarina of Time level.

However I overall liked Super Mario Sunshine and would never put it in any worst of all time lists (except maybe for worst Mario platformer).  It was a good game with some flaws that got overly-criticized because everyone (perhaps rightfully so) expected much better.  My main problem was with the controls that were actually too responsive.  Too many times I would try to take a half step back and Mario would take a huge step because I pulled back too hard trying to avoid a ledge or I would try to jump and ended up back flipping over the edge.  Other problems I have with it I've discussed in other threads.  They're mainly the island theme, the removal of flight, and the permanent waterpack stuff.
Title: RE:Worst GCN Games of ALL Time
Post by: Mario on February 03, 2004, 11:22:47 AM
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My main problem was with the controls that were actually too responsive. Too many times I would try to take a half step back and Mario would take a huge step because I pulled back too hard trying to avoid a ledge or I would try to jump and ended up back flipping over the edge.

Yes! That's exactly one of the things i was trying to say, thank you.

You imply that you like Wind Wakers camera more than Super Mario Sunshines? I don't really see the difference, they seem exactly the same to me, except Wind Wakers camera is more stiff, sometimes too stiff, which is why i prefer Super Mario Sunshines. *shrug*
Title: RE: Worst GCN Games of ALL Time
Post by: KnowsNothing on February 03, 2004, 11:44:01 AM
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"really good"?

How about just taking Goldeneye and running it through a JuiceMan to deliver garbage. Agent Under Fire was one the worst gameplay experiences I ever had. Why won't you let me aim with the left-analog, EA? Fuq Yoo EA.

I have more fun eating a Hungry-Man TV dinner.



Was that directed at me?  Seriously.  I said "very good" describing Goldeneye, which I'm sure you'll agree is, very good indeed.  (I said something along those lines......don't remember......)

I also said "pretty good" but that wasn't describing agent under fire, I was just saying that if people are telling us the worst game in their collection, and they have a collection of high quality title, you're going to get some "pretty good" games brought up in this disscussion.  Such as SMS or AC.  They're far form the worst games on the cube, but they can certainly be the worst games in the particular person's collection.

I said Agent Under Fire was the worst game in my collection.  Just for clarification.
 
Title: RE:Worst GCN Games of ALL Time
Post by: revolg_98 on February 03, 2004, 12:50:36 PM
I wish I had only rented Luigi's Mansion.  Its a good thing I saved enough to by 2 games when I first got GCN the day it came out for sale or I would have trded it in for another machine.
Title: RE:Worst GCN Games of ALL Time
Post by: Actraiser on February 03, 2004, 07:25:00 PM
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
Why won't you let me aim with the left-analog, EA?  Fuq Yoo EA.


they put an options menu in the game for a reason, man.  i have it set up where you move around with the left analog and control the camera/aiming with the right, just like every console game that has used dual analogs in the last few years.  me and my friends have played the heck out of AUF and it absolutely smokes Goldeneye in the multiplayer dept.  if you still own it and have not played the Escort mission in Death Match, you havent experienced that game.
Title: RE: Worst GCN Games of ALL Time
Post by: KDR_11k on February 04, 2004, 03:18:02 AM
The difference between SMS' and WW's camera isn't that important, the problem is that SMS requires much more precise and quick movements than Zelda. The camera can get into the way with those. Most of the time it was not a problem, but when you were quickly changing directions (difficult jumps, running along small ledges) it could confuse you or prevent depth perception, etc.
Title: RE: Worst GCN Games of ALL Time
Post by: thecubedcanuck on February 04, 2004, 08:44:09 AM
" I think Deguello's right- is SMS REALLY worse than Universal Studios or Charlie's Angels? It looks more like you're just trying to ruffle some feathers."

WRONG!!!

I cannot put into word my hatred for this game.  It has nothing to do with anything else,  except the fact I didnt like the game, no alterior motives what so ever.
The camera, the colors, the movement gave me headaches beyond believe. I honestly couldnt play the game for more than 20 minutes at a time.
So dont jump to conclusion because YOU thought it was great. I honestly didnt like it all, had no fun playing it and havent touched it since.
I would play anything over this and I couldnt be more sincere.
Title: RE:Worst GCN Games of ALL Time
Post by: Ian Sane on February 04, 2004, 08:50:36 AM
"I would play anything over this and I couldnt be more sincere."

You would even play it more than this game?  

If you legitimately hate Super Mario Sunshine you're allowed to.  What bugs me though is when someone hates Super Mario Sunshine so much that they sell their Cube and claim they'll never buy anything from Nintendo.  I believe there's a guy on the Penny Arcade forum who sold his Cube just because of that.
Title: RE:Worst GCN Games of ALL Time
Post by: Tysken1 on February 06, 2004, 08:10:58 AM
I know that a lot of people will disagree with me right now as you read this reply, but I have to confess to  you I was extremely bored with Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem. I bought it cheap, but it wasn't even worth that price. I had heard a lot of spookiness about the so called insanity effects; a sudden fake restart of the Gamecube, making the player roar in anxiousness. At least that's what my least favourite reviewer said in one of Sweden's largest gaming magazines. He gave it a 9 out of 10. Personally I'd give it a 2 or 3 if I'm to be nice.
These insanity effects are the reasons to why I hate this game. Me and a friend of mine played through the whole adventure and all we did was laugh. Laugh, laugh and roaring in laughter.

But alas, games such as Star Wars: Rogue Squadron II, Pikmin and Mario Party 5 haven't really entertained me either.  
Title: RE:Worst GCN Games of ALL Time
Post by: nolimit19 on February 06, 2004, 09:29:09 AM
spiderman was pretty f'n horrible if you ask me.
Title: RE:Worst GCN Games of ALL Time
Post by: Metroid masked on February 06, 2004, 10:24:43 PM
my most dissapointing game was super mario sunshine i hated the level design all the levels looked the same they were all tropical islands unlike mario 64 that had, Snow,desert,etc. And the fludd was a cheap idea as was the blue coin idea which just gets tedious after a while.

i also didnt like sonic battle battle adventure 2 although the shadow and sonic stages were fun..
Title: RE: Worst GCN Games of ALL Time
Post by: Deguello on February 07, 2004, 06:00:12 AM
"the colors, the movement gave me headaches beyond believe."

Huh?

"So dont jump to conclusion because YOU thought it was great. I honestly didnt like it all, had no fun playing it and havent touched it since.  I would play anything over this and I couldnt be more sincere."

Well you are welcome and enitltled to your ill-thought opinion.  Seriously, if you think that SMS is the worst game of all time, the worst game EVER, and that NOTHING can be worse than this, you're either a troll or a person who has limited his game choices for rent or own greatly.

This is quickly becoming like those Something Awful threads when somebody asks what they think is the worst band or movie of all time and the only thing on peoples lips is "The Police" or "SWAT."  Yeah SWAT sucked, and you may hate it, but does that make it the worst movie of all time, unlike say, The Screaming Skull, Or Space Mutiny?  What drives people to think they earn counterculture brownie points by having mentioned a popular thing in a "Worst of" list?  Grow up.

Just because you don't particularly like something doesn't mean it's the worst in the world.  I have (rather had) 3 games... actually, only 2 games in my GC collection that I ever hated with a passion.  Splinter Cell, and EA's Semi-Annual Identical Football Engine Release (Madden and NCAA Football are Different games, WE SWEAR.)  Do I think they are worse than Charlie's Angels?  Than Shrek Extra Large?  Than Muppet's Party Cruise?  Than Whirl Tour (Tony Hawk... Except with SCOOTERS!)?  Worse than Dinotopia?  Worse than Disney Sports basketball?  Hell no.

I would accept that you think SMS is the worst GCN you've played.  However this thread isn't "Worst GCN Game That You, Personally, Haved Played."   It's "Worst GCN Games of ALL Time."  And that implies consensus, which you are not in.  And that means... you might wanna sit down for this... You are incorrect.  Tough Pill to swallow, ain't it?
Title: RE: Worst GCN Games of ALL Time
Post by: Bloodworth on February 07, 2004, 09:37:07 AM
Ok, I felt this was a poll when it first started, but let it go since people usually had a lot to say.  However now it's basically a flame war with people attacking great games that they just personally didn't like.  Deg handled that pretty well, and I think that part of what makes you fit to be a professional reviewer is the ability to separate your personal likes and dislikes from analyzing the design and quality of the game.