Post by: silverdonut on December 15, 2003, 11:49:21 AM
Post by: KnowsNothing on December 15, 2003, 11:53:49 AM
Post by: Gibdo Master on December 15, 2003, 12:09:54 PM
Post by: silverdonut on December 15, 2003, 12:27:50 PM
Post by: ThePerm on December 15, 2003, 12:30:14 PM
i love heraldry though and really liek the flag
Post by: Majexto on December 15, 2003, 12:44:53 PM
Post by: Grey Ninja on December 15, 2003, 01:29:47 PM
Donut, sorry, but I don't really think your thesis holds true with many people other than the immigrated or the very old.
Post by: manunited4eva22 on December 15, 2003, 01:51:54 PM
Post by: Hostile Creation on December 15, 2003, 01:53:35 PM
Post by: Ian Sane on December 15, 2003, 01:55:18 PM
However I do take my religion seriously and feel that it's important for one to have pride in one's religion and to some that may seem as no different than patriotism. I think the reason I feel different about religion is that when one pledges allegiance to a religion they are really pledging allegiance to a god, an almighty deity. Even if you don't believe in the concept of a god it certainly makes more sense to be loyal to that than a institution that was created by mere mortal men.
Post by: mouse_clicker on December 15, 2003, 01:56:46 PM
Post by: Hostile Creation on December 15, 2003, 02:10:13 PM
Post by: mouse_clicker on December 15, 2003, 02:15:10 PM
And we already have a well run country- we may complain about it's many shortcomings, but that number pales in comparison to almost any other country on the planet, and it's because of that, I think, that we are so patriotic. But it's little things like a pledge that go towards strengthening it. Like I said, the pledge alone doesn't do much, but combined with the plethora of other things that follow the same idea, Americans' sense of nationalism is greatly strengthened.
Post by: Hostile Creation on December 15, 2003, 02:37:00 PM
Post by: Berny on December 15, 2003, 03:53:09 PM
Post by: mouse_clicker on December 15, 2003, 03:55:12 PM
Post by: kennyb27 on December 15, 2003, 04:41:57 PM
QuoteIt's funny you say that mouse, because we just went over a survey in my Comparative Government class that said this about percentage of polled who were "proud to be a _____":
But if you ask quite literally any American if they're patriotic and have pride in their country, I guarantee you they'll release an emphatic hell yes.
-United States -- 80%
-Britain -- 57%
-France -- 38%
-Italy -- 24%
-Germany -- <20%
I thought that was interesting. And my apologies for not having numbers on Canada or Australia.
Post by: nolimit19 on December 15, 2003, 04:42:01 PM
Post by: Hostile Creation on December 15, 2003, 04:48:35 PM
But I know what you mean kennyb27. 
Post by: ThePerm on December 15, 2003, 07:48:35 PM
Also countries are an extended notion of family but rather on a macro scale rather then a micro scale.
Post by: Termin8Anakin on December 16, 2003, 12:31:52 AM
We are all for being proud of our country, but it's not like we need a constant reminder by having to be forced to do it. In schools, we only really sing the national anthem at assemblies, which are once a week. They don't play it everyday on the speakers while we're in class, because, frankly, it gets annoying. I only like singing it when Australia is remembering some important day, or does something great, like win things at world events.
And I think our full name is the Commonwealth of Australia, but as if anyone could be bothered to remember that (unless you were the Prime Minister or something - sucked in Johnnie
). And if we voted to get rid of the Queen being our 'ruler', we would be called the Republic of Australia, but I doubt anyone would remember that either.
Post by: Oldskool on December 16, 2003, 05:23:58 AM
Post by: silverdonut on December 16, 2003, 11:42:18 AM
Post by: mouse_clicker on December 16, 2003, 11:50:18 AM
Post by: silverdonut on December 16, 2003, 02:15:01 PM
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Originally posted by: mouse_clicker
They don't believe in the pledge itself much, no, and neither do I. But if you ask quite literally any American if they're patriotic and have pride in their country, I guarantee you they'll release an emphatic hell yes.
And we already have a well run country- we may complain about it's many shortcomings, but that number pales in comparison to almost any other country on the planet, and it's because of that, I think, that we are so patriotic. But it's little things like a pledge that go towards strengthening it. Like I said, the pledge alone doesn't do much, but combined with the plethora of other things that follow the same idea, Americans' sense of nationalism is greatly strengthened.
Yeah, I guess you answered my question. I was hoping for a lot more responses but oh well. THanks, mouse_clicker.
Post by: ThePerm on December 16, 2003, 04:25:39 PM
i say if your going to be apart of a country you might as well take pride in it....if you hated your country...its kinda like hating yourself because afterall your a part of your country and if ou think its not great then in part its your fault.
Me and my friend were talking in a mcdonalds the other day we were joiking about stuff....i think i aid...all men are created equal eh? Na some people are better then others
Sounds messed up but its true. Some people do well in their lives and some people screw themselves up.
Post by: Bloodworth on December 16, 2003, 05:07:49 PM
Post by: Bloodworth on December 16, 2003, 05:10:46 PM
Post by: Grey Ninja on December 16, 2003, 05:40:39 PM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
Geeze, Grey you don't know the words to O Canada?
Hey, give me a break here. I used to sing it in French and English every morning from grades K - 3, but haven't sung it since. I don't remember a single word of the French version, but I'll see how much of the English version I remember. Cover your ears... eyes... whatever have you. Grey Ninja is about to sing.
O Canada
Our home and native land
True patriot love
In all thy sons command
With glowing hearts
We see thee rise
Our... something...
O Canada we stand on guard
For thee
O Canada we stand on guard
For thee
Now I'll try the American anthem:
Oh say can you see?
By the dawn's early light
what's so proudly we hail
da da da da da
with blue stripes and white stars
la la la la la
la la laaaa la la laaa
la la la la la laaaa
Pothead national anthem:
Oh say I can't see
Where the hell's my visine?
and my eyesight's not so keen
I hope you're not driving
who's sack and new pipe?
we'll get f***ed up all night
and the weed's not stale
it's ok to inhale
get the munchies like hell
and we run to the bell
hit the bong one more time
then pass it 'cause it's mine
Oh say does that weed get me so hiiiiigh!
legalize it today
and get smoked out tonight!
That probably says a lot about my character right there.
Post by: NarmaK on December 16, 2003, 11:15:29 PM
Not because it is offensive to atheists and various other nut balls (me be atheist, you be nut ball), but because teachers force you to say it without telling you you are signing a verbal contract to give your soul to the american government, that may very well be the devil, depending on your point of view.
My teachers never asked me if I wanted to allign myself with the american government, they just told me to do it.
Screw that.
Also, isnt this a democracy? "for the republic and something something" shouldnt that be: for the democracy and something something?
But whatever, dont make kids sign over their allegiance to something they have not been educated about first. And even after, give the kids a written document that states that the pledge is not a legaly binding contract.
Post by: mouse_clicker on December 17, 2003, 02:27:20 AM
Also, the pledge is not offensive to atheists- I'm an atheist myself, but there's only one line I don't agree with ("...under god...") and I just don't say it. The original Pledge of Allegiance didn't have that line in it at all- it was added by Eisenhower in 1956, I believe. I'm surprised it was allowed at all, considering it goes against our First Ammendment and freedom of religion, but basically it's the only line that I find offensive.
Post by: Ms.Pikmin on December 17, 2003, 04:54:20 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 17, 2003, 05:13:17 AM
I think patriotism can be a good thing, but I'm not one to follow in pursuit of it myself...Perhaps it's just my dislike of government in general, or perhaps the fact that it tries to push it on us...If one is going to be patriotic it should be on their own accord, not off some tripe pledge...Geez, it's like the Red Scare never ended...
Post by: Ian Sane on December 17, 2003, 06:25:50 AM
Ohhhhh-ohhhh-ohhhh saaaaaaaaaaaaay can you, I'm askin', can you seeeeeeeeeee-ee-ee-ee-ee-e-e?....
...
And the laaaaaaaand of thuuuuuuh-uh-uh-uh-uh braaaaaaa-a-a-a-a-a-ave!
Post by: Munky on December 17, 2003, 09:58:33 AM
Post by: NarmaK on December 17, 2003, 12:00:07 PM
As for the shouldnt be living here if you dont like the country, screw that, thats against the first ammendment too.
But uh, schools suck. Somone should redesign the american school system, you know, by using science and stuff to find out the most efficent way of doing things. For example, large classrooms arent the problem, ****ty teachers are.
Post by: krisdfish on December 17, 2003, 12:12:33 PM
They do have a national anthem though. We don't sing it too often though. So sorry, silverdonut, but I can't really help you there since I don't live in Australia. Im an aussie.Quote
Someone reported this as a political discussion. I don't think I would really classify it as one. I'm keeping an eye on it, but so far you guys are having a fine conversation.
No, this is not really a political disscusion. It's not talking about politics or anything. Just about America's pledge of allegiance. I think you should be proud of it because it has to do with your country. Anything to do with my country I'm proud of, because it's my country, and I love my country so much. Australia rocks!
Post by: Grey Ninja on December 17, 2003, 02:13:39 PM
Post by: Hostile Creation on December 17, 2003, 02:19:24 PM
Post by: ThePerm on December 17, 2003, 03:03:41 PM
lol also as far as remembering the pledge..i thiunk its easier to remeber it by amalgamizing the words...
like i have words like donzerlay which is like dawn's early
Post by: KnowsNothing on December 17, 2003, 03:14:55 PM
of the United States of America,
and to the rebuplic, for which it stands,
one nation, under god, indivisable,
with liberty, and justice for all.
I think that's it. I should remember since we say it EVERYDAY. National Anthem? Here goes:
oh say can you see,
By the dawns early light,
what so proudly we hailed,
at the twilight's last gleaming,
who's broad stripes and bright stars,
through the perilous fight,
o'er the ramparts we watched,
were so gallantly gleaming,
and the rockets red glare,
the bombs bursting in air,
gave proof through the night,
that our flag was still there,
o say does that star spangled banner yet wave,
o'er the land of the free,
and the home of the brave.
________________________________________
WOW I'M GOOD. Maybe I'll actually sing it for you. LIKE ACTUALLY.
Post by: mouse_clicker on December 17, 2003, 03:15:02 PM
Speaking of which, isn't it convenient Saddam was captured right before primaries?
But I digress, and I meant that purely in a humorous way- I don't want to turn this into a political flaming thread.
Post by: NarmaK on December 17, 2003, 03:44:58 PM
Post by: Grey Ninja on December 17, 2003, 03:54:14 PM
Post by: KnowsNothing on December 17, 2003, 03:55:31 PM
Post by: Grey Ninja on December 17, 2003, 03:56:24 PM
Post by: KnowsNothing on December 17, 2003, 03:59:12 PM
...erm.....and don't forget to eat your "spam"
Post by: Grey Ninja on December 17, 2003, 04:05:33 PM
back on topic....
mouse_clicker, I am not familiar with that story. What happened? I have always considered atheists to be far less dangerous than fundamentalist religious folk, and although I can understand why he would become so exasperated (sp?... not a word I normally spell) with the religious freaks, I don't think that they actually deserve violence. Not lethal violence anyway. But I am sure it's not like he started a "holy war" or anything.
Bah. I take that back. Atheists ARE far less dangerous than religious people.
Post by: KnowsNothing on December 17, 2003, 04:08:36 PM
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Sorry... I just drank a whole lot of beer.....
**SURPRISE**
(and now we shall get back on topic.....scout's honor
)
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 17, 2003, 04:19:26 PM
QuoteI disagree with this wholeheartedly, but let's not turn this into a religious discussion, eh? -__-
Originally posted by: Grey Ninja
I have always considered atheists to be far less dangerous than fundamentalist religious folk, and although I can understand why he would become so exasperated (sp?... not a word I normally spell) with the religious freaks, I don't think that they actually deserve violence. Not lethal violence anyway. But I am sure it's not like he started a "holy war" or anything.
Bah. I take that back. Atheists ARE far less dangerous than religious people.
Post by: mouse_clicker on December 17, 2003, 04:39:52 PM
Also, I think I know why atheists are generaly nonviolent and harmless in that way, but it would be generalizing, and I know there'd be a huge debate, so I'll pass on it.
Post by: Grey Ninja on December 17, 2003, 05:01:30 PM
But regardless, her father is one of two people who should decide whether he wants to subject her to religious propaganda or not. The pledge is intended to stir up loyalty to God and the state both, and her father wanted to exercise his right to give his daughter freedom of choice in the matter.
The thing is that America doesn't really have seperation of church and state, and the dude challenged that. That is the real reason (opinions notwithstanding), that I side with him.
Post by: mouse_clicker on December 17, 2003, 05:06:33 PM
I do believe in the seperation of church and state (which is upheld in this country- look at the Alabama court house case), but I want it to be achieved through the right methods, not coweringly manipulating innocent bystanders to achieve those results- the ends do not justify the means. I liken it to the act of pushing a passerby into oncoming traffic to demonstrate how dangerous busy streets are.
Post by: Grey Ninja on December 17, 2003, 05:14:18 PM
Post by: mouse_clicker on December 17, 2003, 05:18:42 PM
Post by: Grey Ninja on December 17, 2003, 05:22:38 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 17, 2003, 05:23:13 PM
Well isn't the father forcing his beliefs on his daughter then? It isn't right to blame one side for forcing beliefs when the other side is shooting for the same exact thing...At such a young age the only things that make an impression are actions and emotions, not concepts, and the father is 100% wrong here...
If the daughter was older and actually complained herself, then I would agree with the "freedom of choice" argument, but as it stands the whole thing is just plain stupid...
Post by: mouse_clicker on December 17, 2003, 05:26:30 PM
And Ninja, as I understand there's not enough non-whites in Canada to cause much of a problem anyway.
Post by: Grey Ninja on December 17, 2003, 05:29:24 PM
Ok. Absolute last word on the subject. Promise. I am going to bed now and sleeping it off. silverdonut, I think you have your answer. I dislike the American pledge because it combines religion and state.
I dislike the Canadian flag because it iconifies the Canadian government's complete lack of respect for the west. During the last election, they announced the winners before my province's vote had even been counted. The two most western provinces provide most of Canada's budget, but get the least respect. Probably because our vote doesn't matter squat.
If Canada had a pledge, it would probably emphasize tolerance among all the different groups in Canada. But it doesn't really need saying, as Canada is a pretty friendly country, and be you Indian, Black, Italian, Spanish, Japanese, Chinese, or even French... you can walk down a street without fear of being persecuted for your birthright. I visited Alabama and Mississippi a while back, and I could not say the same about those places. (I am not white). If Canada did have a pledge, I would probably feel proud of my country for making it a good place to live.
And Mouse Clicker, Canada's population is incredibly diverse. We have an entire province full of French people who feel the need to BAN VIDEO GAMES WITHOUT FRENCH COVERS!!!! (sorry... pet gripe of mine...) But the government always jumps through hoops to please them.... And you can't go 500km in any direction without hitting a reserve of some kind. There are Indians in every town across the country. There are more kinds of non-white than Black you know.
Post by: mouse_clicker on December 17, 2003, 05:38:59 PM
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I dislike the American pledge because it combines religion and state.
That's not entirely accurate because, like I said, the line "...under god..." wasn't added until 1956. It was spoken without that line for many a year before.
Also, I'm going to tell you one thing to remember when visiting the US- NEVER base your opinion of it off of Alabama or Mississippi, and probably not Lousiana, either.
Really, though, the vast majority of Americans are good, honest, people who are not racist- the problem is you only ever hear about the racist and sexist ones making a scene. Religious tolerance needs some work, but we're getting there. I recently read a poll done by CNN- some 98% said they woould not be opposed to a black president. Some 97-98% said they would not be opposed to a women president. Some 69% said they would not be opposed to a homosexual president. Yet only 49% or so would not be opposed to an atheist president. And French isn't being diverse, man.
Canada was half settled by the French, as I understand it. My particular high school in Kansas has a very large Vietnamese and Laotian population.
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 17, 2003, 05:42:13 PM
To the father: Just let your child live a normal life...When she eventually matures and reaches that fork in the road, she will be able to make her own decisions...
I would just like to end with a similar story that involves my family...I live in a Catholic family, and though they are very religious, they allowed me to believe in whatever I wished...I just happened to grow up as a Christian, while my sister now considers herself an Atheist...It's sad that so few families(such as the father in this case) are tolerant in religious beliefs...
Post by: mouse_clicker on December 17, 2003, 05:44:53 PM
A friend of mine is being brought up by very strict Catholic parents that quite simply will not allow him to follow any other path, and as a result have driven him towards agnosticism and being almost as anti-organize religion as I am. His mother won't even let him see his friends unless he starts volunteering at church more often (On a related note, I find forced volunteering to be terribly funny
).
Post by: Grey Ninja on December 17, 2003, 05:45:24 PM
God I love Canada. I mean... burning down the White House has to be the funniest thing in the history of the world. It's the most Canadian way of fighting a war that there ever was.
Post by: mouse_clicker on December 17, 2003, 05:49:25 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 17, 2003, 05:50:38 PM
Grey: I can tell you're drunk...Maybe you should keep your little schemes to yourself...
Post by: mouse_clicker on December 17, 2003, 05:51:58 PM
Post by: Grey Ninja on December 17, 2003, 05:52:06 PM
Post by: mouse_clicker on December 17, 2003, 05:53:21 PM
Post by: Grey Ninja on December 17, 2003, 06:01:16 PM
Face it. Canadians live in Canada.
Post by: mouse_clicker on December 17, 2003, 06:06:36 PM
Damn Canadians.
Post by: ThePerm on December 17, 2003, 07:31:48 PM
Heres a quesiton they ask children.
If your wife was dying and you couldnt afford the medicine to cure her would you steal the medicine
a child...stealing is wrong
an adult
hells yeah! Like im a fuckface if i let my wife die when i could just "borrow" some medicine. Also the doctors are Fuckfaces for charging for my wifes medicine when they could save her life for free...greedy murderors!
Post by: NarmaK on December 17, 2003, 08:22:51 PM
Uh, hells yeah.
That guy was an idiot though, dont say you dont want a belief system forced on your daughter, say you dont want that belief system forced on her.
Its very simple, political correctness is crap.
Just say, "I think that god is a crock of **** and religion, (or what I like to call mysticism) does nothing to help society".
Then when a crazy wench says to him, "oh yeah, well because of god, I give my change to bums!"
Then the guy should say, "oh yeah! well because of the free time I save on sundays, im a multi-billionare, and I drop gold lumps of crap in the bums whino clang jars! And I do it despite my disbelief in some dude that may or may not set me on fire if I dont."
Then the crazy chick'll say something like, " oh yeah, well what about all the dirty thieves and murderers that found jesus and are now walking the streets again because the idiot judge at the parol hearing thought that jesus was a magical being that made murderers into not murderers"
Then the dude'll be all like,"so it was you! gaurds! arrest her!"
Then as shes carried away by the ninja flying monkeys the oompa loompas will be all like,"oompa loompa doopity doo, you are an idiot so **** you".
Yup, fecking gypsies.
As for the moderators, delete this post if you want, but if you do, you are a communist.
Post by: Deguello on December 17, 2003, 09:12:43 PM
Wait... better be on topic.
God damn, shut the hell up.
Post by: NarmaK on December 17, 2003, 09:23:31 PM
Post by: Oldskool on December 18, 2003, 05:25:32 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on December 18, 2003, 06:39:55 AM
Fixed. Grey you're original statement was a rather blanket statement and I considered it pretty offensive. I think "extremist" is a better example. Extremists blow up buildings in New York. The average religious person doesn't.
I however agree whole heartingly however with your opinion on how the government ignores the west. Proportionately to population Prince Edward Island is more represented in the House of Commons than British Columbia. That's just ridiculous. Ontario decides the election and that's one of the big reasons why I don't have much patriotism towards Canada. The French on DVDs pisses me off too particularly when virtually NO ONE outside of Quebec speaks French exclusively.
However I am proud for the most part of the general population of Canada. Like you mentioned racism is not a big problem here and, although it's somewhat of a stereotype, it's just a friendly place to live. That sort of peaceful co-existance cannot be created by a government. It's just a quality of the population.
Post by: krisdfish on December 18, 2003, 12:17:22 PM
I happen to be Catholic.
Post by: Hostile Creation on December 18, 2003, 12:44:14 PM
Anyway, the only vaguely racist thing I've noticed in a while is that we have seperate dances, but only because there are two big clubs at the school, one predominately black and one predominately white. Everyone has been pissed about this lately, and we're intent on only having one prom this year.
Atheists are less dangerous than religious people? Honestly, no. Sure, holy wars and bull crap, but do you think the creators of the bombs that fell on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were developed by Catholics? Probably not. I don't really mind one any more than the other, but I can't stand to see either side attacked without fair defense for the other.
Post by: mouse_clicker on December 18, 2003, 12:48:23 PM
Just because someone's a scientist doesn't mean they're an atheist- hell, even Darwin was a religious man.Also, nothing personal about Louisiana- I've been there innumerable times since quite literally my entire family is from there, and it's better than Kansas, but I myself wouldn't count it as the prime vacation destination in the Us.
Except, of course, for New Orleans- magnficent city.
Post by: Hostile Creation on December 18, 2003, 12:56:24 PM
Though I also tend to notice that religious people are much more giving toward society and their community, both the religious and nonreligious aspects of it. I don't know if any of you know what religious freaks down here are like, but I can tell you that they are some of the most devoted, honest, nicest people that I've ever encountered under any circumstances. I'm far from one of them, and their kindness often pisses me off, but it's the truth.
Post by: Ian Sane on December 18, 2003, 12:58:33 PM
I happen to be Catholic."
???
So you think not believing in God is cool yet you yourself believe in God and thus are not cool? That just seems... weird.
"do you think the creators of the bombs that fell on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were developed by Catholics?"
Well they might have been. How do we know? Odds are at least one person involved in the whole thing was religious in some way.
Post by: Hostile Creation on December 18, 2003, 01:01:37 PM
And I don't think he was implying that only atheists are cool. There are some nonatheist people that are cool.
Post by: KnowsNothing on December 18, 2003, 01:02:58 PM
Yeah, so I'm not so good with this whole religious thing. Just to let you know, I'm Catholic. But I don't really agree with the catholic church. I haven't gone to church in years. i like the whole morals of Christianity, like respect and charity and all that stuff. That's why jesus was always pictured as a human, not some all mighty god-like thing. we're all equal.
I like to think that there are no gods at all, and religions are only meant to have us be spiritualy healthy and respect other humans (by tricking us into thinking that if we're bad than we'll go to hell and get coal in our stockings.....it's all a scam!)
Post by: manunited4eva22 on December 18, 2003, 01:19:07 PM
America burned Ottawa, who cares.
Atheists are people, it doesn't really make you cool just for that one reason, it just means you don't believe the same things.
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 18, 2003, 01:21:11 PM
Post by: mouse_clicker on December 18, 2003, 01:22:14 PM
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i like the whole morals of Christianity, like respect and charity and all that stuff.
Atheists do, too! A lot of people have this false image that we all want to destroy religion and kill god, blah, blah, blah. Most of us, just as most people period, believe in Christian ethics, just on in the Christian religion, or any religion. Not to imply you were saying that, KnowsNothing, but you wouldn't believe how many people fake being nice to me when they find out I'm an atheist.
Post by: KnowsNothing on December 18, 2003, 01:25:26 PM
I know what you men, MC. I didn't mean to imply that at all. Quote
believe in Christian ethics, not just in the Christian religion, or any religion.
This quote says what I believe. I don't really want to be a part in any religion, but I am forced to. Y'know what sucks? Confirmation. Confirmation is when I "confirm" what religion I will be when I grow up, yet I'm being forced to do this as a Catholic.
EDIT: In response to the next post, "HUZZAH!"
Post by: mouse_clicker on December 18, 2003, 01:29:31 PM
Anyway, we're really getting off topic, on account of me mostly. Sorry.
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 18, 2003, 01:33:19 PM
Post by: KnowsNothing on December 18, 2003, 01:34:45 PM
erm...I mean.....cool!
Post by: Hostile Creation on December 18, 2003, 01:47:27 PM
Post by: mouse_clicker on December 18, 2003, 01:49:58 PM
Post by: Grey Ninja on December 18, 2003, 01:52:21 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill
KN, if you really don't want to go through with Confirmation, then just talk to your parents...I'm living through a reallife example with my sister who is getting out of it, so I know what you're looking at...
Sooo... you have any pictures?
Post by: KnowsNothing on December 18, 2003, 01:53:32 PM
Bill's sister is mine. You guys can all scram!
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 18, 2003, 01:54:15 PM
Now then, do you really want those pictures?...
(Just for future reference, Confirmation usually takes place for those around 7th-8th grade...)
Post by: KnowsNothing on December 18, 2003, 01:55:09 PM
Post by: krisdfish on December 18, 2003, 01:55:49 PM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"Athiests are cool.
I happen to be Catholic."
???
So you think not believing in God is cool yet you yourself believe in God and thus are not cool? That just seems... weird.
"do you think the creators of the bombs that fell on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were developed by Catholics?"
Well they might have been. How do we know? Odds are at least one person involved in the whole thing was religious in some way.
I'm talking about Athiest people. Not the athiest (well I can't say religion) but w/e. I meant my friends and stuff. Oh just shut up. Your making me confused!
Post by: Hostile Creation on December 18, 2003, 02:00:26 PM
Akdaman's sister is right in my range, though. . . it's fun to try to stalk people via the internet, whether you're doing it for real or not.
Post by: Grey Ninja on December 18, 2003, 02:03:04 PM
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it's fun to try to stalk people via the internet, whether you're doing it for real or not.
I once sent someone a sattelite picture of his house by snail mail. THAT was fun.
Post by: KnowsNothing on December 18, 2003, 02:04:48 PM
( 
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Post by: Termin8Anakin on December 18, 2003, 03:03:45 PM
We only say the first one, cause no one remembers the second one, and the third one is about God saving us or something, but since not everyone here believes in God, we'd only stop at the second verse (if anyone remembers it
).It begins with
'Beneath our radiant southern cross....' and it goes on.......i forget
Post by: KnowsNothing on December 18, 2003, 03:06:34 PM
and Bill....where the heck are those pics!
Post by: NarmaK on December 18, 2003, 06:58:32 PM
Post by: Hostile Creation on December 18, 2003, 09:23:06 PM
You are very short sighted if you think religion is that petty. Not blind, because there are many pathetic men that think that way, but you're still wrong.
Post by: mouse_clicker on December 19, 2003, 07:52:50 AM
Post by: ThePerm on December 19, 2003, 09:36:17 AM
Post by: Hostile Creation on December 19, 2003, 10:01:41 AM
I'll just suggest that she lighten up. We're not serious.
Post by: KnowsNothing on December 19, 2003, 11:34:27 AM
EDIY: Nevermind, my site has been temporarily sut down due to excessive bandwidth consumption. :\
Post by: evil intentions on December 21, 2003, 04:08:57 PM
Post by: nolimit19 on December 21, 2003, 06:33:26 PM
Post by: Grey Ninja on December 21, 2003, 06:36:41 PM
Quote
Originally posted by: KnowsNothing
Sorry about any............badness with feelings........for......I SING (right click save as???)
EDIY: Nevermind, my site has been temporarily sut down due to excessive bandwidth consumption. :\
KnowsNothing, your site appears to have been shut down permanently. If the file is small enough... you can email it to me. If it's not, then I guess I can't really help much. But this I would like to hear. I should actually find my microphone wherever it may be and post me singing Canada's anthem. (If I look up the words)
Post by: Termin8Anakin on December 22, 2003, 05:09:23 PM
Speaking of sisters, I've been after Oohhboy's (remember him?
) sister for a while
Post by: ThePerm on December 22, 2003, 06:00:23 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 22, 2003, 06:14:50 PM
QuoteShe says she was just playing around, but I got an apology out of her anyway...
Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
I don't want to hurt Bill's feelings, nor do I want to get banned. I'll keep my mouth shut.
I'll just suggest that she lighten up. We're not serious.
Post by: Hostile Creation on December 23, 2003, 05:05:23 AM
Even though I wasn't one of the ones hitting on her in the first place.
Post by: mouse_clicker on December 23, 2003, 06:25:27 AM
Post by: Hostile Creation on December 23, 2003, 06:45:42 AM
Post by: KnowsNothing on December 23, 2003, 08:27:38 AM
anyway, Grey. My site wasn't shut down when I posted the link, but it is now.....Angelfire blows. I forgot my geocities account though, and I never could figure that out. I can email it to you, I think.
you really want to hear it? I'm singing in a wacky pretend-to-be-good kind of way but......whatever. I also have me playing the star spangled banner with my nose.....but....yeah.....
yeah the song sucks and my voice cracked halfway through...
Post by: Hostile Creation on December 23, 2003, 08:37:35 AM
Perhaps we should just start a thread of all of us singing random crap. That would be. . . somewhere between fantastic and miserable. . .
Post by: KnowsNothing on December 23, 2003, 08:41:20 AM
I love singing just because I'm so bad at it.
EDIT: The song's too big to email...:\
