Post by: Shorty McNostril on December 10, 2003, 06:18:26 PM
Post by: Grey Ninja on December 10, 2003, 06:28:57 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 10, 2003, 06:33:40 PM
I can't stand strategy games such as Starcraft, I can't stand Tycoon crap, and I especially can't stand MMORPGs!
Post by: Smashman on December 11, 2003, 08:48:14 AM
Post by: mouse_clicker on December 11, 2003, 10:18:56 AM
While I do love PC games in every way, I have to go with consoles if only for the simple fact that PC games are an enormous hassle just to play. First you have to have a suitable computer, then you have to install the game, theen there's compatibility issues, patches, glitches, etc, etc. Whereas with consoles, you buy the game, pop it in, and start playing immediatley. That's the main reason I've drifted away from computer games and am now a solid console gamer.
Post by: manunited4eva22 on December 11, 2003, 10:19:59 AM
Post by: MattCrafty on December 11, 2003, 12:43:01 PM
Post by: The Omen on December 11, 2003, 12:47:23 PM
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Define better value, as in games only, or as in overall use. Overall use pc's win hands down.
For gaming, i assume.
I too like consoles much better. I have a few PC games, but too much configuration just to play a game,[ie] some games dont support my USB cube adapter, my graphics card is 1 year old, and its out of date...etc
Post by: Infernal Monkey on December 11, 2003, 02:16:08 PM
Console for me. I have nothing against PC gaming though. Some of my favorite games are on PC (Last Express, Neverhood, Duke Nukem 3D, Shadow Warrior, Sonic CD, Quake III and so on). It's just that I don't like where PC gaming has ended up. Clones upon clones upon clones, each more buggy than the last, and each focusing on online play. Plus hey, my PC hardware is rubbish.
Post by: manunited4eva22 on December 11, 2003, 03:05:58 PM
Post by: Shorty McNostril on December 11, 2003, 03:57:53 PM
Post by: manunited4eva22 on December 11, 2003, 04:51:45 PM
light
and dark
It still needs some more wireloom, but it's much better than before.
Post by: Grey Ninja on December 11, 2003, 05:58:09 PM
Do you have a 3DMark03 score to back that up? http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=1609701
There's my latest. Completely untweaked in any way, and I was actually running SETI@Home while running it, so I am sure I can do better. I ran it right after installing my video card, and haven't had time for any hardcore tweaks yet.
Post by: thecubedcanuck on December 12, 2003, 01:48:58 AM
I am a console gamer 100%, I dont own a single PC game.
Post by: ib2kool4u912 on December 12, 2003, 09:22:13 AM
Post by: thecubedcanuck on December 12, 2003, 09:41:22 AM
You are the first person in the history of these forums to agree with me on anything. I knew it would happen sooner or later. It must be Christmas
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 12, 2003, 09:53:47 AM
Post by: Munky on December 12, 2003, 11:19:10 AM
Post by: manunited4eva22 on December 12, 2003, 11:20:46 AM
Post by: Grey Ninja on December 12, 2003, 11:34:16 AM
I am content with my "new" video card, but I am waiting for the Prescott to come out before making my next serious system upgrade.
EDIT: I REALLY hate doing this. Ordinarilly when I agree with cubedcanuck, my response is the same as when I usually disagree with him. I try to ignore him. But in this case, he deserves at least some recognition for at least knowing what a HORRIBLE gaming platform a PC is. I will say that there is no better platform to play a graphical adventure, FPS, or RTS on though. The problem is that there aren't many games in those genres that I really care to play that much.
Post by: Ian Sane on December 12, 2003, 12:20:13 PM
Generally I don't care for the mouse/keyboard setup though I do think that a mouse has some usage in gaming. RTS games or simulations like Sim City all work great with a mouse and if I designed a console I would have a mouse so as to accomodate such games. As for the keyboard well it's designed for typing so unless you need to communicate with other players keyboards aren't needed for gaming. Sure they're good for hot keys but I feel that if your game needs hot keys you've made it too complex. I also feel that, although popular, a mouse/keyboard setup is quite impractical for an FPS. A 3D game viewed from a first person perspective craves to be played by dual analog sticks. The only reason the mouse/keyboard setup works so well in PC FPS games is because those games are designed to use those controls. That doesn't mean those are more intuitive.
I also don't like the online focus of PC games. What's this? Ian "Nintendo should go online" Sane is complaining about online gaming? Well specifically I'm complaining about games that are designed primarily with online play in mind. In order to get your money's worth out of most PC games you have to play online with a bunch of people who you don't know who school your ass because they have no life and play all day. What I want are multiplayer games with a decent one player mode that I can play with my friends whether they're at my house or 1000 miles away. You can't find games like that on the PC since offline multiplayer isn't an option and it's harder to have the same hi-tech computer as your friends as it is to have the same console.
Post by: The Omen on December 12, 2003, 12:48:07 PM
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You are the first person in the history of these forums to agree with me on anything. I knew it would happen sooner or later. It must be Christmas
I hate the keyboard/mouse combo as well. Merry f'in Xmas!!! I've agreed with cubedcanuck in other instances though.
Post by: mouse_clicker on December 12, 2003, 01:37:05 PM
Post by: MaxXUnlimited on December 12, 2003, 01:56:50 PM
Post by: manunited4eva22 on December 12, 2003, 04:41:48 PM
I have a 9800Pro 128MB version, running at 420 core, 400 RAM.
A P4 2.8B at 3.4ghz, running on an asus P4P800 with dual craptastic ddr400.
Post by: Grey Ninja on December 12, 2003, 05:53:51 PM
That's a man sized machine right there.
Post by: Mario on December 12, 2003, 06:09:19 PM
Oh, and i absolutely hate PC gamers who think PC games are so much superior to console games, and just ignore all console games and play Counter Strike or Diablo every single day, and laugh at anyone who plays Nintendo or Playstation. Ignorant pathetic losers.
Post by: thecubedcanuck on December 13, 2003, 02:27:23 AM
Post by: mouse_clicker on December 13, 2003, 03:37:04 AM
Post by: Ghost_of_a_Flea on December 13, 2003, 06:19:30 AM
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Originally posted by: mouse_clicker
I, too, don't like using a keyboard and mouse, but I also don't like using a console controller, either, nor the WASD setup. I still love first-person shooters, just not the controls.
Try the Nostromo SpeedPad n53; it replaces the keyboard in your left hand. It has three rows of customizable keys, a full scrollwheel (and the best part) is a D-Pad for your thumb to replace the WASD setup. A SpeedPad and a mouse are the BEST control setup I've used for a FPS; the thumb D-Pad is great... a perfect combination of controller and mouse/keyboard controls.
Post by: KDR_11k on December 13, 2003, 07:51:26 AM
Post by: thecubedcanuck on December 13, 2003, 09:34:43 AM
I have worked on a PC for years now, and am only marginally better than when I started, but I am far from a good typer. When Playing a game and having to think about the game and type, I slow down worse than true crime.
I will take my widescreen TV, Tiger Woods 04, a cold beer and little green any day.
Post by: Dirk Temporo on December 13, 2003, 01:45:01 PM
Post by: Majexto on December 14, 2003, 04:42:16 PM
