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Title: Super Smash Brothers? What's the big deal?
Post by: Silverback67 on December 07, 2003, 04:12:10 PM
Ok, so I went out and bought "super smash brothers melee", and tried it for a while. Every review and forum I have read said how amazing it was. That many people can't be wrong, but it seems to me that it is just a wild frenzy of button mashing. And I have no idea what all those power-ups do, or how to best use them. What am I missing here? It seems pointless to me, but I know that it's gotta be amazing, because everyone loves it so much. Help me see the light.....
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Post by: thesos21 on December 07, 2003, 04:21:32 PM
Are you playing with others? And also, try picking one character and learning all his/her moves.
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Post by: Pale on December 07, 2003, 04:34:34 PM
I hate you



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Post by: thesos21 on December 07, 2003, 04:35:41 PM
What?
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Post by: S-U-P-E-R on December 07, 2003, 04:41:42 PM
Take some time to learn the game, maybe!
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Post by: Bill Aurion on December 07, 2003, 05:32:23 PM
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Originally posted by: Silverback67
And I have no idea what all those power-ups do, or how to best use them. What am I missing here?.....


PIAC says: MUSHROOM MAKES ME BIG? UH-OH BRAIN CAN'T COMPREHEND *passes out*
 
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Post by: THE_BLINK_EFFECT on December 07, 2003, 06:02:11 PM
Try playing 4 player its great fun.
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Post by: Grey Ninja on December 07, 2003, 06:04:51 PM
It's a party game at heart.  If you are playing it alone, then you will most likely be bored out of your skull.  But with more people, the game is amazingly fun.  It's a very solid gameplay experience because of the close interactivity of the players.
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Post by: Infernal Monkey on December 07, 2003, 06:53:26 PM
Nostalgia plays a pretty big part in Super Smash Bros. Melee, me thinks. The mere fact that the Ice Climers were in it got me excited. "Whoa, I loved that game on NES, blah blah blah, cool! Remixed music from the game!"
But then again, a few of my friends never grew up with Nintendo and still love the game. *Shrugs shoulders*

"Uuuuurrr, this pink dude looks pretty homosexual. Hur hur hur. What the hell is this, some 2D dude frying bacon for an attack? How crap. Oh wait, I think I'm really enjoying this game, I just won't let on I am."
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Post by: CaseyRyback on December 07, 2003, 07:33:32 PM
I played it to death by myself, I loved getting all the trophies and honing my skills to crush my friend
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Post by: darknight06 on December 07, 2003, 09:00:38 PM
This game has a fairly large tournament scene going, so the game's gotta be worth something.  Especially considering that it's been going strong since it's release.
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Post by: KDR_11k on December 07, 2003, 09:13:10 PM
The game is less button mashing and more hit&run later on (simply because the AI doesn't get confused by the action). However, the reception among my friends was bad. Everybody hated the game after the first few rounds and vowed never to play it again. About the same reaction as Mario Kart DD.
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Post by: akdaman1 on December 07, 2003, 09:29:55 PM
I never loved this game either...but thats only probaly cause I suck in it
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Post by: MaxXUnlimited on December 07, 2003, 09:58:10 PM
I lov the game. It was played for about two days non stop at a party I was having. Like everyone said, it's an awsome party game.
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Post by: Shift Key on December 07, 2003, 11:49:43 PM
This game is best played when there are four or more players. I've had several multiplayer nights and this game is the most popular GC game (Micro Machines - PSX is the other one that always gets played).
Its charm is that its simple to pick up, and tricky to master. You CAN win by mashing the buttons. So it is a relatively level field skill-wise, and you can never truly get away from the fighting. One rule we have is that the cowards get ganged up on big levels like Hyrule Castle, so there is definitely a skill in survival.

Ultimately, if you find it boring, don't whinge here. Get three friends and try again. When the players are evenly skilled, it is the best multiplayer on the GC.
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Post by: Hostile Creation on December 08, 2003, 01:57:59 AM
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If you are playing it alone, then you will most likely be bored out of your skull.


Not me I had only this game to play for about five months (had Gauntlet, too, but my friends and I beat most of it in one day together), and I played it alone a LOT.  And I still love the game.

Of course, at some point I started making up alternate plots and stuff, something I tend to do when I get bored of a game, to increase my interest.  Still great fun, though.  But maybe I'm just dumb.
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Post by: Cap on December 08, 2003, 04:53:28 AM
smash bros is kind of a strange game to me. i dont know if i even really like the gameplay that much, but the amount of things that there were to unlock just made the game hard to put down. i didnt play anything else until i had unlocked anything, but then i havent played it since. i do play mostly single player though, so there isnt much else for me to do with the game.
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Post by: thecubedcanuck on December 08, 2003, 05:07:25 AM
this is without a doubt my most hated gamecube game, I have never understood what all the fuss is about. I am not a fan of any fighting games, but I will play them on occasion, this game I will not touch.
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Post by: oddjob on December 08, 2003, 06:43:29 AM
no there is no way you can win by mashing buttons in this game, no way!  I have played the smah brothers games since day one, and it takes a long while to get good.  Espically the new one, with air graps, techs, wave dashing, and all the techniques you need to really be amazing at it!!! It is really an awesome game, and a great fighter.  Its a party game yes, but I would put it up there with street fighter as a technical fighter, theres just so much to know.  And Pale I want to square off against you once more some day!!!
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Post by: Ian Sane on December 08, 2003, 06:53:20 AM
I hated the original Super Smash Bros for the N64.  I found it to be mind-numbingly boring and when everyone was all ga-ga about Melee I thought they had to be nuts.  However every review was proclaiming it as the best game on the console and since there weren't many games available on the Cube at the time I decided to rent it and bring the Cube to a friend's house.

During that rental period I realized why I didn't like the first game: I didn't really know how to play it.  A friend who owned the N64 game never taught me how to play it properly and turned me off by schooling me constantly with cheap throw tactics.  With the Cube game I actually learned how to play and ended up getting good enough to beat my friends on a semi-regular basis.  I liked it enough that I decided that after my final exams were finished I would reward myself by buying it.

It was after buying it that I really learned all the nuances of the fighting system and really fell in love with the title.  My brother and I used to play it every day after work until we unlocked the sound test.  In the end it probably took us about a month of daily playing (we would sometimes spend days just on one event).

I think one reason that I like it so much was because for a while there was nothing else to play so since I couldn't switch to another game I had to take the time to get good at the game.  Now the Cube library is big enough that if I get stuck on a game I always have something else to play so I lose interest pretty easily.  Melee was like playing a game back in the old days where, because I was a kid with no money, I had only one game to play for months.  I think Melee was the right game at the right time and starting it out brand new right now is not going to be as appealing.

However if you've only just started playing and you don't like it keep it up until you know how to play.  Then decide if it's worth keeping.
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Post by: Caliban on December 08, 2003, 07:27:42 AM
I have never played SSBM with anyone but myself, and I still find it to be one of the best games out! I haven't played it for months but I've got like 175 hours logged on to it. I spent alot of time on my on Target Practice Mode, which is my favourite!
Even if you still don't like it after some hours of play with it, it's alright. Not everyone is going to like this game for whatever reason it is.
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Post by: S-U-P-E-R on December 08, 2003, 10:11:18 AM
This happens ALL THE TIME with fighting games. People get owned the first time they play it, and are convinced they hate it or "oh uh I just suck at fighting games, time to go back to FF7" or whatever. With just a little effort to learn the intricacies of the game, you might find that some fighting games are among the best games ever made.
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Post by: The Omen on December 08, 2003, 10:48:44 AM
I traded my copy in after i beat most of the challenges.  I play all my games alone for the most part.  I thought it was fun though, and i'm thinking of picking it up again.  Something tells me i should get some bloody friends that like it as well....
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Post by: Smashman on December 08, 2003, 12:31:39 PM
I completely agree with Ian Sane of the first page.

I hated both SSB and SSBM at first, but I came to love both after really getting good at them, especially SSBM. I actually played SSBM first, and then buying the original with lots of interest. SSBM has infinite replay value. From release date from November 2001(?) to December 2003, I cannot put the game down. Everything (character, item + stage select) is completely randomized. I did not buy another game for GCN until March 2002, 3 months later.
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Post by: Luciferschild on December 08, 2003, 02:34:22 PM
I didn't really get it when I first played it but you have to learn the moves before it get's good. Once you master the controls it becomes the most strategic and well balanced fighting game ever made, not to mention the funnest imo. There's tons of stuff to unlock and well....figure it out.  
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 08, 2003, 02:49:21 PM
^^^

... what he said.
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Post by: GaimeGuy on December 08, 2003, 02:56:36 PM
"That many people can't be wrong, but it seems to me that it is just a wild frenzy of button mashing"  

Give me any character, any  handicap setting.  I'll prove your button mashing  attitude wrong.
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Post by: Hostile Creation on December 08, 2003, 04:21:09 PM
My friend and I (murk280 here) just played again today. . . we are both still equally skilled, and that game is as fun as heck.  It's such a great fighting game, all the skill and stuff it takes to play it. . . I laugh sometimes when we play it together, dodging each other and rolling about and attacking, retreating, faking attacks, everything.  We talk, and we even know what we do wrong and try to improve it.

To us, it's hardly even a game anymore.  It's. . . a challenge and a battle of skills (and a helluva lot of fun).  I don't even know how to explain it.  Hilarious, fun, awesome, involved game.
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Post by: mouse_clicker on December 08, 2003, 04:24:06 PM
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"That many people can't be wrong, but it seems to me that it is just a wild frenzy of button mashing"


Like some others have said, take some time to learn the game- everyone button mashes at first because they don't know what they're doing, but once you've played it enough and learn the little nuances of the characters and their moves, it's a very fun game.
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Post by: Koopa Troopa on December 08, 2003, 06:34:13 PM
I'd like to add that it can be an extremely fun and challenging single player experience as well. For instance, try beating all 50 "Events" (I think that is what they are...?) Those were some kind of tough.

A favorite "mode" of my brothers, our friends and myself is to take a level nine character and give him a nine handicap (turn all of ours down to one) and then we all face that computer together. (sometimes one of us will play as the the "uber" character while the others try and kill that player)

We've also been known to turn off the pause button and gang up on a newbie (switch our team color just before selecting a level). Its mean but it is really funny, and we always make it up to him afterwards.
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Post by: CaseyRyback on December 08, 2003, 07:31:04 PM
there are 51 events, the last one is extremely hard

I lost my memory card and have only gotten through the first 39(minus the one where NEss battles all the foreign characters like Fox Falcon and such)
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Post by: Koopa Troopa on December 09, 2003, 07:49:36 AM
Right, 51. It took me a LONG time to get through them all.
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Post by: Murk280 on December 09, 2003, 12:15:34 PM
Ya. HC and I play each other constantly. We often set different matches like bob-ombs on high and whatnot. It's gotta be one of my favorite games of all time. I was pretty bad at it at first, but HC and I kept playing it until we got to where we are today, still playing it

To me, event 51 wasn't the hardest. It took me a while, and there's always the jigglypuff trick, but it took me many-a-days to beat 'Soace Travellers'
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Post by: Hostile Creation on December 09, 2003, 02:30:54 PM
Space.  But yeah.  Soace Travellers, GO!

We played some more today.  Still tied. . . dang we good.
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Post by: Kaj'oin on December 10, 2003, 03:27:48 AM
I to love SSBM, whats peoples time on target practice mode overall just wondering mine is 8m 33.8sec.
Any one beat 9.67sec on Roys.

And just encase home run overall is 10167.68m

It’s great to compare Come lads and gals!!