Post by: Jonnyboy117 on December 02, 2003, 07:04:47 AM
NINTENDO GAMECUBE HITS NO. 1
Combines with Game Boy Advance to Sell More Than 1 Million Systems During Thanksgiving Week
REDMOND, Wash., Dec. 2, 2003 – After rocketing up the charts the past several weeks, the Nintendo GameCube™ has now reached No. 1 – it's America's top-selling home video game console, according to direct sales data from the nation's leading retailers. Nintendo GameCube sold more than half a million systems to consumers during Thanksgiving week, easily surpassing its console competitors. Among all game devices, it trailed only Nintendo's portable Game Boy® Advance, which sold almost 600,000 units to U.S. buyers during the week.
"All along, our business plan for this year was to maximize consumer interest and sales during the fourth quarter," says George Harrison, Nintendo of America's senior vice president of marketing and corporate communications. "But frankly, we're overwhelmed by how successful we've been. Our price cut of Nintendo GameCube has ignited sales to the degree that it may turn out to be the best-selling console for the entire month of November. We're tracking to sell more systems in the last eight weeks of the year than we did in the previous 10 months combined."
Nintendo GameCube went from No. 3 to No. 1 in just two months, evidence that the Sept. 25 price drop to an MSRP of $99.99 and the hot new games were just what the public wanted. The library of games available for Nintendo GameCube now stands at more than 320, including America's current hottest game, Mario Kart®: Double Dash™ exclusively for Nintendo GameCube, role-playing and sports games, Pokémon titles for younger players and action and racing games for adults.
Numerous new and upcoming releases that will keep the momentum going include 1080°®: Avalanche, a shred-'em-up snowboarding game; Mario Party® 5, the ultimate party game; F-Zero® GX, the fastest racing game on the market; Mario Golf™: Toadstool Tour, a golf game that appeals equally to novices and experts; Pokémon Channel™, the first-ever Pokémon game available for Nintendo GameCube; and Final Fantasy®: Crystal Chronicles™, an upcoming role-playing game that continues the hit franchise.
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Post by: Gibdo Master on December 02, 2003, 07:39:28 AM
I'm just overjoyed to hear about this though. It's nice to not be on the losing team for once. I just hope that all these people that are buying the GC up will buy the next console too.
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Post by: OO7craft on December 02, 2003, 01:01:48 PM
whats with nintendo? every week the manage to outsell ps2 they boast about it. well u know what, Sony did not boast when it kicked your A$$ the other 40 something weeks of the year.
altho this is good news.. they still lost these console wars by a huge margin. Lets just hope nintendo fixes them selves up and actually starts listening to what the public wants, rather then throw stuff on them they dont want *CoughGBAconectivityCough*.
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on December 02, 2003, 01:08:27 PM
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MKDD is "America's hottest current game"? Oh, god, quality standards really fell
Umm just because you didn't like it doesn't men anything.
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altho this is good news.. they still lost these console wars by a huge margin.
Its called a one year head-start,if GCN and Xbox had launched with Sony the race would be much closer.
Post by: Mario on December 02, 2003, 02:16:41 PM
500,000 in a week?!?!
YES! This is excellent! WOOHOO! Yay! OMG, just, YES!
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MKDD is "America's hottest current game"? Oh, god, quality standards really fell.
MKDD is an awesome game.
Post by: jasonditz on December 02, 2003, 04:38:48 PM
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Originally posted by: OO7craft
This is good news but.......
whats with nintendo? every week the manage to outsell ps2 they boast about it. well u know what, Sony did not boast when it kicked your A$$ the other 40 something weeks of the year.
That's because there aren't a hundred million fanboys claiming Sony is doomed every week.
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altho this is good news.. they still lost these console wars by a huge margin.
By whose standards? They've made a ton a money off of the cube, and a ton more off the GBA.
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Lets just hope nintendo fixes them selves up and actually starts listening to what the public wants, rather then throw stuff on them they dont want *CoughGBAconectivityCough*.
Lets examine this rationally. Microsoft has lost literally billions of dollars "giving the public what it wants". Nintendo made over $400,000,000 last year... and everyone is pushing for them to change their strategy.
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Post by: jasonditz on December 02, 2003, 05:48:19 PM
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Post by: Myxtika1 Azn on December 02, 2003, 05:58:02 PM
Post by: OO7craft on December 02, 2003, 06:22:06 PM
and to defend myself b4... like I said, Just because they make a profit doesnt mean they won the war. And MS lost nothing. True they didnt make as much as nintendo but they still made profit. As long as they make $1 profit they have lost nothing. Like i said b4 with the whole GBA conectivity. Its all about money and greed. its not innovative.. Its a freaking scam to get us to pay more $ to nintendo. Nintendo is just concerened with making 1000000000000000%%%% profits and thats why they don't give the public what they want. The public wants stuff that is fun but doesnt make millions for the companies, therefore this is why nintendo made more $ then x-box.
tho I would much rather own a console that caters to my demands (public) and not thos of managment who are only intreasted in making money. You think the guy who first thought up of gamecube to GBA conectivity was thinking "I wonder what would be fun for players to interact with"? NO.. That was his 2nd thought. His first was "What would be a great way to make money".
I hate nintendo with a passion... And your probably wondering why I own a gamecube and come to nintendo msg boards... Well that is because I grew up with Nintendo and I will not abandon them after they make a few mistakes (late n64,Gamecube). I will continue to buy nintendo products and one day hope they pull themselves back together and become the leaders they once were in the NES/SNES days.
Post by: Myxtika1 Azn on December 02, 2003, 06:35:49 PM
And you think losing billions of dollars and only making $1 back is worth it? How about you give me $1 million dollars, and I'll give you $10 back. It'll be totally worth it, cuz you'll still be getting something back. Again, it is what I (the public) want. Throwing money around blindly is stupid, and I'm pretty sure that if Microsoft does not have as much money as it does, the Xbox would have been discontinued months ago.
As for your comment on connectivity not being innovative. I find it funny because I'll be picking up Pac-Man Vs. tomorrow afternoon. I can't wait.
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 02, 2003, 06:36:44 PM
QuoteRead the ToS...64x64 is the max size allowed...
hey whats the deal with my icon? I never realized It was not allowed?
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Like i said b4 with the whole GBA conectivity. Its all about money and greed. its not innovative.. Its a freaking scam to get us to pay more $ to nintendo.
QuoteI've gotten most of everything that I've wanted...Please enlighten us to what "the public wants"...
Nintendo is just concerened with making 1000000000000000%%%% profits and thats why they don't give the public what they want. The public wants stuff that is fun but doesnt make millions for the companies, therefore this is why nintendo made more $ then x-box.
QuoteConsidering that Miyamoto is a strong believer in connectivity, I highly doubt this...
You think the guy who first thought up of gamecube to GBA conectivity was thinking "I wonder what would be fun for players to interact with"? NO.. That was his 2nd thought. His first was "What would be a great way to make money".
QuoteThis is quite possibly the most lame reason I have ever seen by someone for owning a system...You support a system because you like the games, not because of your hopes for it to become dominant in the industry...
And your probably wondering why I own a gamecube and come to nintendo msg boards... Well that is because I grew up with Nintendo and I will not abandon them after they make a few mistakes (late n64,Gamecube). I will continue to buy nintendo products and one day hope they pull themselves back together and become the leaders they once were in the NES/SNES days.
Post by: jasonditz on December 02, 2003, 07:11:50 PM
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Originally posted by: OO7craft
hey whats the deal with my icon? I never realized It was not allowed?
and to defend myself b4... like I said, Just because they make a profit doesnt mean they won the war. And MS lost nothing. True they didnt make as much as nintendo but they still made profit. As long as they make $1 profit they have lost nothing.
No, no... Microsoft didn't make a profit.
From Most Recent MSFT Quarterly Report: The home and entertainment division, that includes the Xbox video game machine, had an operating loss of $273 million on $581 million in revenue.
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Like i said b4 with the whole GBA conectivity. Its all about money and greed. its not innovative.. Its a freaking scam to get us to pay more $ to nintendo. Nintendo is just concerened with making 1000000000000000%%%% profits and thats why they don't give the public what they want. The public wants stuff that is fun but doesnt make millions for the companies, therefore this is why nintendo made more $ then x-box.
Ummm.... huh?
So the Gamecube made more money because its less fun, and not what the public wants?
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tho I would much rather own a console that caters to my demands (public) and not thos of managment who are only intreasted in making money. You think the guy who first thought up of gamecube to GBA conectivity was thinking "I wonder what would be fun for players to interact with"? NO.. That was his 2nd thought. His first was "What would be a great way to make money".
So are the public's only demands that the company loses money on the product? Hell, that's gotta put Microsoft wayyy out in front.
Pacman Versus looks plenty fun to me. God forbid it sells a few extra GBA/GC link cables though.
Post by: OO7craft on December 02, 2003, 07:16:40 PM
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And you think losing billions of dollars and only making $1 back is worth it?.
erm? perhaps you need to look in the dictionary at the word "Profit" then rephrase your statement
and I do like the gamecube games. I just get dissapointed in lack of features in games that appear on GC. when ever they come on all 3 systems the cube is always missing an extra mode/feature that the x-box and ps2 versions have. and the few good 1st part games that come out is the reason I bought a gamecube. I never get those 3rd party games for GC tho cause like i said... thier always missing features.
And u say miyamoto likes conectivity huh? well thats his public image. He in it for the money too.
Post by: Berto2K on December 02, 2003, 07:27:18 PM
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Originally posted by: OO7craft
hey whats the deal with my icon? I never realized It was not allowed?
and to defend myself b4... like I said, Just because they make a profit doesnt mean they won the war. And MS lost nothing. True they didnt make as much as nintendo but they still made profit. As long as they make $1 profit they have lost nothing. Like i said b4 with the whole GBA conectivity. Its all about money and greed. its not innovative.. Its a freaking scam to get us to pay more $ to nintendo. Nintendo is just concerened with making 1000000000000000%%%% profits and thats why they don't give the public what they want. The public wants stuff that is fun but doesnt make millions for the companies, therefore this is why nintendo made more $ then x-box.
Please show me one source that says Microsoft has made money on the Xbox. Good luck, because you won't find any. In every annual, quarterly, etc report, that whole division has reported loses. Not once have they said that the Xbox has been a profitable business. They have lost millions on the project in fact. It helps yourself look better if you don't say stuff like like they are fact, when the information isn't and old.
Of course Nintendo is concerned about making money, they are a business. That is the goal of any business. If they didn't, they then aren't in business anymore. Don't try to argue this with me either, you won't win.
Post by: BlkPaladin on December 02, 2003, 07:34:08 PM
There is two types of profit:
The first one is the money you see after the costs of production- (The Xbox losses money on each console to begin with and loses more when you factor in the incentives. Nintendo has seen a profit from it machine up until a few months ago.)
The second and more inportant Profit is the money you get after you paid all the expenses that you incurred to make the product which include R&D, Advertising, Labor, Materials, and related items. They are still about a year behind seeing anything in this area and with all they had to so far it seems they are going backwards in hopes that the second console will be what the PS2 has been this gen.
And Nintendo has seen more money made from the Gamecube in its life span than Sony has seen from the PS2 in its life span. (There was a 600 page report published a few months back that this site reported on and that is just for the Gamecube not factoring in the Gameboy.) So if you look at it from a business standpoint Nintendo is the in the #1 position in the industry.
Post by: Myxtika1 Azn on December 02, 2003, 07:47:55 PM
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And you think losing billions of dollars and only making $1 back is worth it?.
erm? perhaps you need to look in the dictionary at the word "Profit" then rephrase your statement
Look in the dictionary for what? Change my statement? Why? Regardless of what the definition of the word profit is, I was asking if you think that losing billions of dollars just to make a $1 profit is worth it. Personally, I think that's plain stupid.
Doctor Evil: Why make billions when we can make...millions?
Post by: Koopa Troopa on December 02, 2003, 07:48:40 PM
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MKDD is "America's hottest current game"? Oh, god, quality standards really fell.
It is completely deserving of such a position.
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And u say miyamoto likes conectivity huh? well thats his public image. He in it for the money too.
The man is rich. He doesn't need any money. He is in it for the love of his craft, plain and simple. He is one of the few people in the industry who cares for the gamer, the real gamer.
You know, I don't think you have posted even one legitimate argument. Nothing you've said is true, so why don't you stop wasting your, and more importantly our, time.
Post by: KDR_11k on December 03, 2003, 04:22:43 AM
BTW, why complain about connectivity? Noone forces you to use it. I don't bother with it myself and haven't encountered any problems so far.
Post by: thecubedcanuck on December 03, 2003, 04:45:11 AM
this couldnt be any further from the truth.
Post by: phil1984 on December 03, 2003, 11:01:06 AM
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Look in the dictionary for what? Change my statement? Why? Regardless of what the definition of the word profit is, I was asking if you think that losing billions of dollars just to make a $1 profit is worth it. Personally, I think that's plain stupid.
Doctor Evil: Why make billions when we can make...millions?
This comment is actually pretty stupid when you think about it 007craft. If you have made $1 profit then you havn't
lost Billions of Dollars you have made $1. Sure you may have to spend Billions of dollars to get that $1 profit but you havn't lost those Billions of dollars to make a profit. You simply have a revenue of Billions of Dollars + 1 hence giving you $1 profit..... Damn this is making my head spin.....
Getting back on topic, this is really really good news for GameCube. Nintendo may even catch the Xbox in the USA before this console war is over.....
Post by: OO7craft on December 03, 2003, 01:13:25 PM
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Originally posted by: OO7craft
Look in the dictionary for what? Change my statement? Why? Regardless of what the definition of the word profit is, I was asking if you think that losing billions of dollars just to make a $1 profit is worth it. Personally, I think that's plain stupid.
Doctor Evil: Why make billions when we can make...millions?
This comment is actually pretty stupid when you think about it 007craft. If you have made $1 profit then you havn't
lost Billions of Dollars you have made $1. Sure you may have to spend Billions of dollars to get that $1 profit but you havn't lost those Billions of dollars to make a profit. You simply have a revenue of Billions of Dollars + 1 hence giving you $1 profit..... Damn this is making my head spin.....
Getting back on topic, this is really really good news for GameCube. Nintendo may even catch the Xbox in the USA before this console war is over.....
um id didnt say that... your quoting the other guy with my name.. look back.. what your saying is what I was trying to say to him
Post by: jasonditz on December 03, 2003, 01:41:41 PM
Post by: OO7craft on December 03, 2003, 02:57:28 PM
and i was trying to poin out to the other guy that if u lose 1 billion dollars and make only 1 dollar profit u in reality have made 1 billion and 1 dollars
Post by: Myxtika1 Azn on December 03, 2003, 03:46:01 PM
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yes but I was quoted for what someone else said...
and i was trying to poin out to the other guy that if u lose 1 billion dollars and make only 1 dollar profit u in reality have made 1 billion and 1 dollars
Ok, I understand what you mean now. It's like Nintendo spending $100 to make a $50 profit off the Cube, and MS spending $400 to make -$100 on the Box (exaggeration -- I'm not sure what production cost was when both consoles came out).
The thing though, is that you would only have $1. Go through all that just to make one extra dollar than you started out with? Bah! If that's good enough for you and you think it's worth it, then so be it. I, on the other hand, would rather go with Nintendo and make hundreds of millions of dollars in profit.
Post by: manunited4eva22 on December 03, 2003, 03:49:32 PM
As for Myamoto being in it for the money, give me a break. If Shiggy left Nintendo do you have any idea the amount of money companies would offer to hire him? He could very very easily quadruple his income in the first offer. At that point it's not 'for the money,' it's for the art.
Post by: kennyb27 on December 03, 2003, 03:53:09 PM
Microsoft has not made a profit on Xbox and especially not on Xbox Live, which I'm pretty sure has had a profit of $-2 million dollars (yeah, that's a negative profit).
Post by: thecubedcanuck on December 04, 2003, 01:45:45 AM
Post by: jasonditz on December 04, 2003, 08:18:04 AM
Post by: thecubedcanuck on December 04, 2003, 09:09:48 AM
I doubt MS plans on losing in the end, I wouldnt doubt if this X-box gamble is givin a ten year window.
Post by: jasonditz on December 04, 2003, 09:58:39 AM
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I didnt say they are trying to lose money. What I am saying is that for a company of MS's size, losing money in a few areas isnt as painful to the bottom line as some may think. Loses in one area can actually be made up for in the tax savings on the overall picture.
I doubt MS plans on losing in the end, I wouldnt doubt if this X-box gamble is givin a ten year window.
That's a good point. Microsoft did pay upwards of $4 billion in taxes last year.
Still, considering they've fallen from 2nd to 3rd in sales in the US and are still practically nonexistant overseas its gotta be frustrating to see how little return they're getting for eating hundreds of millions of dollars in losses.
Post by: thecubedcanuck on December 05, 2003, 01:46:00 AM
This is year 2, they have sold almost the same amount of consoles as a long time giant (NIN), from that perspective all isnt lost.
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Post by: ghostVi on December 05, 2003, 09:48:16 AM
While I don't believe the situation fits the original plan (which was said to be a 5-year plan AFAIR.. don't quote me on this though) I'm sure they're going to use what they have, and give a shot with an even now starting to get popular xbox2. And a real console this time (designed as a console, from the grounds up, cost-effective, while maintaining competitive power).
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