Post by: MagicToenail on October 26, 2003, 03:30:22 AM
Post by: Aretak on October 26, 2003, 04:31:13 AM
Post by: Rhoq on October 26, 2003, 04:46:22 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 26, 2003, 04:51:57 AM
I've been waiting for a tunneling service like this since I got my Broadband adapter...If it works I can play with a friend who lives a good distance away from where I do
Post by: Matthew on October 26, 2003, 04:52:04 AM
Post by: Berny on October 26, 2003, 05:33:44 AM
When will the Mac version be released?
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 26, 2003, 05:45:52 AM
Post by: Hostile Creation on October 26, 2003, 06:09:26 AM
Post by: akdaman1 on October 26, 2003, 08:57:38 AM
you need a :
router
broadband adapter
a lan based game
the software downloaded on your computer
i am not sure if theres more...that sounds right to me.
Post by: Uglydot on October 26, 2003, 09:05:22 AM
Post by: thesos21 on October 26, 2003, 09:11:04 AM
thanks
Post by: SuperLink666 on October 26, 2003, 09:59:15 AM
just pointin that out
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 26, 2003, 10:19:36 AM
...Basically you use software to play LAN games online(I think between only two GC's for now)...Warp Pipe Project
Post by: ThePerm on October 26, 2003, 10:21:38 AM
Post by: AdvancedGamer on October 26, 2003, 11:27:21 AM
Post by: Hostile Creation on October 26, 2003, 11:52:16 AM
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Post by: Don'tHate742 on October 26, 2003, 03:46:52 PM
It's pure simplicity. You need a computer with the tunneling software, a connection going to your computer and at the same time your gamecube (there are many ways you can do this, routers or hubs are the most practical), and the game. Its not hard at all. The only downfall to any tunneling system is that you can only have a maximum amount of systems. So you can't have a 16 player race with 16 different systems. It sucks becuase if you only have 1 player on your system (yourself probably) then its hard to join a game becuase people are looking for systems with more than 1 player on them (the more players the better).
Post by: Pale on October 26, 2003, 07:10:17 PM
As for a really general description of tunnling for those that don't know...
LAN gaming is put into these games so that if two or more gamecubes are on a LAN, they see and talk to each other. The trick with tunnling is that it makes your gamecube *think* that your computer is another gamecube. This is acheived because your computer is receiving signals from another persons gamecube somewhere on the net and firing these signals back at the gamecube. So, then end result is you play online against someone out in the world. That someone's computer is pretending to be your gamecube, and your computer is pretending to be their gamecube.
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on October 27, 2003, 04:12:48 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on October 27, 2003, 05:57:17 AM
Post by: SuperLink666 on October 27, 2003, 10:47:47 AM
Post by: ExtremeGcube on October 27, 2003, 02:21:14 PM
Post by: AJL221893 on October 27, 2003, 02:57:16 PM
Post by: Jdub03 on October 27, 2003, 02:58:46 PM
Post by: Nintendo Gamecube on October 27, 2003, 03:29:04 PM
Post by: robofish on October 27, 2003, 09:08:11 PM
Post by: KirbySStar on October 28, 2003, 12:26:14 AM
I played a couple games of Kirby's Airride with Chad (the creator dude) today with almost realtime speeds. This is still alpha version people! He hasn't even implimented optimization yet! We were both behind college servers so that's how we were able to have such fast speeds, but our colleges were states away. I can tell you that playing LAN games online is a blast so don't miss out. Get the game, a BBA, a router, and Warppipe now! Especially if you have a university connection like us, and I hosted the game. You really need good upload speeds in order to really appreciate this, at the moment. Like I said, optimization in WarpPipe will make online gaming for GCN a reality. Check it out! Oh and for those looking for OSX port.. look forward to one as early as this weekend/ next week. If anyone has questions, please ask. I'm actually looking into trying to record the online game taking place, but just trust me it works. Really well too. We both can't wait to test out Mario Kart: DD! Look forward to future releases. Have fun everyone!
Post by: Pale on October 28, 2003, 02:32:17 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 28, 2003, 02:53:32 AM
Post by: KirbySStar on October 28, 2003, 05:54:04 AM
I said earlier that warppipe is still in alpha version with unoptimized code with a connection with 2 people behind fast university connections. With optimized code (which hasn't been implimented) playing GCN games online is a reality even for cable/DSL users. That's why this is a huge step in warppipe.
At the moment, it isn't a good test for everyone, yet. Wait for optimized code and then everyone (broadband users) can play. That's why I said earlier, "Optimization in WarpPipe will make online gaming for GCN a reality."
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 28, 2003, 12:06:12 PM
Post by: Pale on November 19, 2003, 01:58:56 PM
D online a try with some of my friends...I have everything i need but the dumb software. The warp pipe site is veyr confusing right now...i can't even find a download place for this original alpha version....any one have any ideas? or a copy of the original so I can give it a try?
Post by: mjbd on November 19, 2003, 02:24:38 PM
Post by: Don'tHate742 on November 19, 2003, 02:39:18 PM
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Originally posted by: KirbySStar[/i}"Optimization in WarpPipe will make online gaming for GCN a reality."
pssshhh ya right.....
Lan tunneling is great and alot of fun, but it won't substitute online gaming. For example.....
When playing through some lan tunneling agent, it tends to lag if there are more than 2 systems playing each other online, and it especially lags if you have 4. When I say lag I mean it becuase choppy, unbearably so, and ruins the gaming experience. So it confines people looking for games and for making games to find another system with a bunch of people on it so they can still have fun but not lag at the same time. At least that is how it works for the Xbox even when using high rated tunneling systmes like Gamespy, i'm sure its the same for GC. Even though everyone is a broadband user.......trust me it still lags crazy, due to packet loss and other things.
The only difference between LAN and online when the developer inputs the features into the game, is that online has a whole set of code especially written to deal with such things as packet loss, lag, and etc. When developers write code for LAN they don't worry about that, which creates all the problems that tunneling agents can't fix.
So LAN tunneling won't replace online until internet speeds reach those of T3.
Post by: Pale on November 19, 2003, 02:43:32 PM
Post by: mjbd on November 19, 2003, 05:22:09 PM
Post by: alvinaloy on November 19, 2003, 06:42:20 PM
Post by: Crono on November 20, 2003, 04:17:15 PM
thanks
Post by: OO7craft on November 20, 2003, 06:09:04 PM
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on November 21, 2003, 04:52:47 AM
Post by: ghostVi on November 21, 2003, 09:20:27 AM
BTW here's some WP progress report : http://www.warppipe.com/archives/000028.html
In a summary, two guys of the WP team played over 115kbps (Waterloo, Canada) and 256kbps (Bloomington, Indiana) connections, keeping a constant 40-50fps. They have also some videos recorded... looks really good so far!
Post by: AJL221893 on November 21, 2003, 12:46:09 PM
Post by: Matt on November 22, 2003, 05:21:20 AM
Post by: Aretak on November 22, 2003, 07:59:14 AM
I really need to get broadband. The WarpPipe thing is starting to sound really good, but I doubt it would work too well on a 56k connection...
Post by: mjbd on November 22, 2003, 10:50:19 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 22, 2003, 05:59:45 PM
Who's bandwidth?
Post by: Koopa Troopa on November 22, 2003, 08:03:06 PM
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???
Who's bandwidth?
Your's. It is a TCP/IP (UDP, maybe?) connection, ala Diablo. (unless I am mistaken)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 22, 2003, 09:12:52 PM
Refer to mjbd's last post. Try to make sense of that first.
Post by: PIAC on November 23, 2003, 12:13:31 AM
Post by: Pale on November 23, 2003, 05:30:53 AM
Post by: ghostVi on November 23, 2003, 07:15:18 AM
Post by: mjbd on November 23, 2003, 10:54:56 AM
Post by: ghostVi on November 24, 2003, 12:04:52 AM
All connected to the same place (that would be your PC in the 1st case), including yourself, will be putting their cubes on a virtual LAN.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 24, 2003, 02:30:17 AM
They've also confirmed that a Cube hooked to a hub hooked to a comp (which is all of course hooked up to your BB connection) will get you going too.
And a Cube hooked to a 2nd NIC on your comp, with your comp's first NIC hooked to the BB connection will work as well.
So no, a router isn't necessary.
Post by: ghostVi on November 24, 2003, 04:03:12 AM
Nice to hear they've got it working with a second NIC on the PC though.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 24, 2003, 04:08:22 AM
But hey, nice to see WP is closer to its goals sooner than expected.
Post by: ghostVi on November 24, 2003, 09:59:21 AM
Post by: ExtremeGcube on November 26, 2003, 10:30:55 PM
Post by: mjbd on November 27, 2003, 06:28:12 AM
Post by: ExtremeGcube on November 27, 2003, 06:33:39 AM
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Originally posted by: mjbd
I am a little confused as to what all I need to get myself up and running. I have a computer, GameCube, GCN broadband adapter, and a DSL connection. What else am I gonna need? I know there are a few differant methods, so which ever is the best/easiest.
Well if you connect your DSL modem to your computer through USB and you have a NIC card on your PC you can bridge the two using windows XP and use a crossover cable to connect the gamecube to the NIC while you connect using the USB to the internet. You run the software, find someone to play with and follow he direction on the screen. Its really not difficult. There are different types of ways of connecting including a hub or swits, or using a router. Go here for detailed instructions.
Warp Pipe Documentation on their Website
Post by: Don'tHate742 on November 27, 2003, 10:37:58 AM
Ya but you could still "play" right. You weren't trying to move for about 10 secs, then realizing that its worthless to even try to play, then take another 30 secs just to quit the damn game. THAT'S THE LAG YOU GET WHEN YOU PLAY LAN....(with more than 2 systems mind you)
I didn't say it stopped lag, but it helps it usually from becoming a real problem. I haven't played mariokart online yet so I don't know what to think of it, but I know if Nintendo actually took the time to take it online it would play much smoother. GARUNTEED.
Post by: aoi tsuki on December 03, 2003, 11:43:20 AM
i've got 1080 and Mario Kart and i'm ready to give it a go.
Post by: mjbd on December 03, 2003, 12:57:15 PM
