Post by: Mario on October 22, 2003, 11:56:46 AM
gamefront.de
Uh oh...
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 22, 2003, 11:59:48 AM
"Capcom is making RE multi-platform," right?
Well that is completely possible...but is it "shocking"? Let's just wait and see what happens instead of making a mountain out of a molehill
Post by: Fish on October 22, 2003, 12:12:52 PM
OMFG! MEGATON!11!!!!
And such.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 22, 2003, 12:57:56 PM
No more Resi games after #4!!>>??
Party-time?
EXCELLENT!
Post by: seven_chaos on October 22, 2003, 01:01:29 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill
"Capcom is making RE multi-platform," right?
Uhhhh. Its already multi platform. RE Outbreak is coming out on PS2 and not on gamecube.
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 22, 2003, 02:48:16 PM
Post by: Dirk Temporo on October 22, 2003, 04:26:49 PM
Post by: Bartman3010 on October 22, 2003, 04:51:25 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 22, 2003, 05:42:15 PM
Post by: Berny on October 22, 2003, 05:53:34 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 22, 2003, 05:56:57 PM
*looks at Final Fantasy*
Or maybe not...
Post by: CaseyRyback on October 22, 2003, 06:02:39 PM
Post by: Michael8983 on October 22, 2003, 07:06:16 PM
The REmake actually sold WAY above Capcom's expectations. REO didn't meet expectations but it still sold decently. Of course the ports of RE2 and RE3 didn't sell even remotely well but that shouldn't have come as a surprise to anyone including Capcom.
Post by: Djunknown on October 22, 2003, 07:37:38 PM
Capcom kind of shot themselves in the foot when they ORIGINALLY announced the RE 2 and 3 ports as 19.99, then later releasing it as 40(Maybe Nintendo had a hand by not agreeing to slash prices? They do want a profit you know). Its blashemy I tell you, as I can pick up both games for Dreamcast for much, much less. I'll probably pick those up this weekend as a matter of fact....
As far as the big announcement, I'm willing to bet that it will no longer stay exclusive. Good things can't last forever right? Unless they're releasing the collectors pack stateside, but since it came from Famitsu, that's wishful thinking.
[off topic] Any one know the difference of Dreamcast's Code Veronica vs the upcoming Code Veronica X? That could be another case of hunting it down for the DC for next to nothing. Thanks in advance [/off topic]
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on October 22, 2003, 08:40:55 PM
It's probably just Plant 42 in its own racing game or something though
Post by: nolimit19 on October 22, 2003, 08:51:00 PM
Post by: cml on October 22, 2003, 08:58:25 PM
I saw some US sales figures recently that showed that, up to June 2003, Code Veronica X on PS2 had sold more than both 0 and the remake combined. (Sorry, I don't have the figures handy) Think about that for a second, and then go further and consider that Code Veronica was a port. Considering the popularity and following the franchise had during the PSone days, those figures can be considered as nothing short of abysmal. And it's not like the quality of the product is to blame either.
Capcom would certainly have been subsidised by Nintendo for making the franchise exclusive, but Nintendo would never have given Capcom enough that would make them better off than had they made the games for PS2.
Chris.
Post by: mouse_clicker on October 22, 2003, 09:01:35 PM
And if you want to get into sales, Silicon Knights was pretty stupid to be bought by Nintendo, too, since they could have gotten better sales on the PS2. Same with Retro, and Rare- hell, Nintendo themselves would probably getter better sales on the PS2. What's your point? The PS2's fanbase dwarfs that of the XBox and PS2 combined- ANYTHING would sell better on it.
Post by: nolimit19 on October 22, 2003, 09:02:11 PM
edit:i am very confused. we like, posted at the same time and said the same thing.....but yea mouse is correct. my previous comment about megaton was just rambling nonesense that should be ignored by all.
also good to note...business isnt about sales....its about profits. so although nintendo might not have the best sales, its the most profitable according to many sources.
Post by: Mario on October 22, 2003, 09:31:06 PM
Post by: akdaman1 on October 22, 2003, 09:34:05 PM
Post by: BlkPaladin on October 22, 2003, 09:56:35 PM
Post by: cml on October 22, 2003, 09:59:09 PM
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Originally posted by: mouse_clicker
And if you want to get into sales, Silicon Knights was pretty stupid to be bought by Nintendo, too, since they could have gotten better sales on the PS2.
Do Nintendo actually own Silicon Knights? It wouldn't surprise me, but I don't remember ever seeing a press release stating as such.
Assuming that is true, I won't argue that Eternal Darkness would have sold much better on PS2 than GameCube, but I don't agree that Silicon Knights were "pretty stupid" to be bought by Nintendo. I would think that most development houses in the world, especially one with an unproven track record like SK has, would have jumped at the opportunity to be bought by Nintendo.
Just some of the advantages of such a buyout for a developer would be:
* Financial security
* The opportunity to work with the best in the business
* The ability to delay your title if it is not ready
* Not have to deal with the pains of multiplatform development
Chris.
Post by: ThePerm on October 22, 2003, 10:23:21 PM
ARANGEMENT. Also...i think silicon knights has laid down the foundation for themselves..they were never recognised till recently.
Perhaps Nintendo has bought the franchise and mikami.
Post by: seven_chaos on October 22, 2003, 10:36:56 PM
Post by: josheat on October 22, 2003, 11:32:34 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill
The only thing I could see shocking would be that RE4 is the last game in the series...I mean, they have to end it sometime, right?
*looks at Final Fantasy*
Or maybe not...
thats why they called it final fantasy, hint the Final. but it sold so good they kept making them. they did well
back to the topic, re is cool
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 23, 2003, 02:38:58 AM
Post by: CreedDBZ on October 23, 2003, 04:05:49 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on October 23, 2003, 04:22:18 AM
Also, as RE4 is probably a long time away it's pointless to assume they have any exclusivity plans for RE5 yet.
Post by: CaseyRyback on October 23, 2003, 05:11:47 AM
hopefully its that Capcom is bringing outbreak to the GCN and allows people to play online with PS2 players
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 23, 2003, 05:15:40 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on October 23, 2003, 09:26:16 AM
Post by: Myxtika1 Azn on October 23, 2003, 11:34:56 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 23, 2003, 01:09:45 PM
Post by: cml on October 23, 2003, 02:02:26 PM
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Originally posted by: CaseyRyback
hopefully its that Capcom is bringing outbreak to the GCN and allows people to play online with PS2 players
I'm pretty sure Sony has announced that Outbreak is PS2 exclusive, although those sorts of deals always have timelines associated with them so I guess in theory there is a chance it could end up on GameCube, but I wouldn't count on it.
But if it did, there is no chance that the PS2 and GameCube versions would play online together. Neither Nintendo nor Sony would allow that.
Chris.
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 23, 2003, 02:04:55 PM
Post by: Ian Sane on October 23, 2003, 02:32:28 PM
If the RE series is no longer exclusive it isn't really that big of a deal. I think it's been proven that RE isn't the system selling franchise it was a few years ago. It didn't sell Dreamcasts and it didn't sell Gamecubes. Like ALL of Capcom's franchises they released too many sequels too close together with too few changes to the formula. This is like a Capcom pattern. Mega Man was huge in the 8-bit era and Street Fighter was THE game to play in the 16-bit era yet neither game played a major part in the generations that followed. Having Resident Evil as an exclusive didn't do much to help the Gamecube anyway so if RE0 and RE4 are ported to other consoles it won't make much of a difference. Now if RE4 was cancelled on the Cube and moved to another console THAT would suck but as long as that doesn't happen it's not that big of a deal.
Post by: ThePerm on October 23, 2003, 02:37:46 PM
Post by: Yuji Miyamoto on October 23, 2003, 02:43:35 PM
Post by: Berny on October 23, 2003, 02:54:31 PM
By the way, I didn't even think that Capcom had even made a game for the X–Box. I'm still a little puzzled.
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 23, 2003, 02:58:19 PM
Post by: Sirmorphix on October 23, 2003, 03:22:58 PM
Post by: Cap on October 23, 2003, 03:32:54 PM
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Originally posted by: Berny
By the way, I didn't even think that Capcom had even made a game for the X–Box. I'm still a little puzzled.
steel battalion, dino crisis 3, and capcom vs snk:2eo are three capcom xbox titles just off the top of my head, and i'm sure there's probably more.
personaly, i was rather unimpressed with re0, so i cant say i'm too worried about this announcement whatever it may be. i would think re4 would still end up being exclusive to the gc, but the other titles i could see being ported to the other systems. of course, its all speculation and for all i know capcom may announce re4 as an xbox exclusive.
Post by: cml on October 23, 2003, 05:24:37 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill
If there was a way, then there would be nothing keeping Capcom from making the two systems able to play against one another...It's Capcom's game, not Ninty's or Sony's.
Yes it's Capcom's game, but before Sony or Nintendo allow ANY game to be published for their platforms it has to abide but certain technical guidelines that they set. If it doesn't meet these guidelines, it will never get published.
It has been stated in many developer interviews that neither of the 3 console manufacturers will allow online titles published for their platform to be playable via another manufacture's network. It is technically possible, but never going to happen.
Chris.
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 23, 2003, 05:31:40 PM
Post by: CaseyRyback on October 23, 2003, 05:37:34 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 23, 2003, 05:46:56 PM
Post by: cml on October 23, 2003, 06:42:35 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill
What I'm getting from your post is that say, Nintendo, wouldn't allow Capcom to let gamers play on Sony's servers...If Capcom had their own servers, then that kind of thing could be avoided. Of course, that would probably be very expensive...
What I am saying is that I know for a fact that neither Nintendo or Microsoft will give approval to a title that allows online play with players who are playing on another console, no matter who runs the servers that are hosting the games. I am pretty sure the same holds true for Sony, but Sony do allow for PS2 players of FFXI to play with PC players. Whether that is just an exception Sony made for Square though, I do not know.
The answer to the question as to who houses a game's server can be answered by simply looking at the platform the game is running on. If it is on Xbox then the game is online via Xbox Live, and is running on MS's servers. If the game is on any other platform (PS2, GC, PC), then the game is running on the publisher's servers. Simple as that.
Chris.
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 23, 2003, 06:52:43 PM
But it doesn't really matter, since online is not something I care about. Maybe in the future those who do enjoy playing online can play with those with other systems
Post by: KDR_11k on October 23, 2003, 07:59:39 PM
Since C has to set up servers anyway, they can just as well make them dual-use to cut down on the number of servers required.
Post by: cml on October 23, 2003, 08:35:02 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill
That's not completely true. EA doesn't use Microsoft's servers(due to EA's distaste for XBox Live)
Read my post again. I never implied that EA used Microsoft's servers. Unless of course you think that EA currently has online Xbox titles that are not running through Live, which would be wrong.
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Neither N nor Sony will force Capcom to sign an agreement against interoperation. Capcom doesn't need to mention both games can work together, they could simply make their servers accept both kinds of connection. Since the servers are out of Sony's and N's reach, Capcom may do with them whatever they like.
Since C has to set up servers anyway, they can just as well make them dual-use to cut down on the number of servers required.
I don't really want to get into a p!!sing match with you about this. You can either choose to believe me or not. You are just following your own logic and/or assumptions when saying this, but as I said in my earlier post, I know FOR A FACT that what I am saying is true.
Chris.
Post by: Mario on October 24, 2003, 06:32:05 AM
But since its "apparently" not RE4 related... maybe its... full remakes of RE2 and 3? Nah...
Post by: Perfect Cell on October 24, 2003, 06:36:57 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 24, 2003, 06:39:24 AM
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Originally posted by: Mario
maybe its... full remakes of RE2 and 3? Nah...
You don't know what I'd do to get a RE2 remake...My favorite RE deserves better!
Post by: highenergyboy on October 24, 2003, 09:52:35 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 24, 2003, 10:05:49 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 24, 2003, 01:27:16 PM
Post by: seven_chaos on October 24, 2003, 03:07:43 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill
If there was a way, then there would be nothing keeping Capcom from making the two systems able to play against one another...
If your refering to online play, Capcom is releasing Ghouls and Ghosts online for all platforms. Using a technology made by Zona Inc., theyre able to make a massive online game cross platform. BTW that game is gonna RULE!!!
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 24, 2003, 03:18:44 PM
*prays for a GC release of Outbreak*
Post by: Berny on October 25, 2003, 10:49:48 AM
Post by: Kleck on October 26, 2003, 05:56:59 PM
Post by: Grey Ninja on October 26, 2003, 06:07:51 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill
Then that only strengthens my point...
*prays for a GC release of Outbreak*
Personally, I would rather see a Resident Evil: Gun Survivor for GameCube.
I HATE Gun Survivor.
Post by: Nintendo Gamecube on October 27, 2003, 09:27:00 AM
I'd soo buy that.
Post by: manunited4eva22 on October 27, 2003, 12:10:00 PM
Post by: cml on October 27, 2003, 12:39:53 PM
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Originally posted by: manunited4eva22
Actually, Tiger Woods 2003 is a EA Game that uses EA's servers, it is apart from Live, so sorry, you would be wrong.
Tiger Woods is an EA game yes, but it is not online for Xbox, just PS2.
Chris.
Post by: mouse_clicker on October 27, 2003, 01:41:55 PM
Post by: Pale on October 27, 2003, 03:17:02 PM
Post by: Don'tHate742 on October 27, 2003, 03:23:17 PM
Halloween is coming up, maybe its RE plates and party hats.
RE2 remake would be awesome, like most of you it is also my favorite of the series. I would still rather see something new though.
Damn, playing these types of games makes you paranoid. *shodders**quickly looks over both shoulders**......sighs with relief.....**then gets eatin by a zombie*
Post by: Sirmorphix on October 27, 2003, 03:41:23 PM
Post by: Djunknown on October 27, 2003, 05:24:35 PM
Yep its Monday and no word as of yet. I'm taking this time to hunt down RE 2 and 3 for Dreamcast as I will not fork 35 bones for ports on the 'Cube. I'm probably one of the few people who haven't given those two games a spin, so I might as well start soon. Strange though, they're harder to track than I thought...
What's the negativity towards to RE online? Its not out yet; it sounds real cool on paper. But in actuallity....well we'll have to wait.
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 27, 2003, 05:30:04 PM
And one of my friends is a hardcore RE fan, as I am, and we can't wait to get our hands on some multiplayer RE...Now we don't have to take turns in RE0
Post by: Grey Ninja on October 27, 2003, 05:33:30 PM
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Originally posted by: Djunknown
What's the negativity towards to RE online? Its not out yet; it sounds real cool on paper. But in actuallity....well we'll have to wait.
A multiplayer Resident Evil is one of the stupidest ideas I have ever heard of, right up there with a MMORPG Final Fantasy game.
Post by: mouse_clicker on October 27, 2003, 05:41:14 PM
Oh wait....
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 27, 2003, 06:10:21 PM
What is this Fantasy game you speak of?
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 28, 2003, 01:39:30 AM
I don't see what's wrong with a multiplayer RE...Just because you are with other people wouldn't make the game any easier/less scary if Capcom plays their cards right...
Post by: Rhoq on October 28, 2003, 01:40:45 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 28, 2003, 01:46:21 AM
Post by: Mario on October 28, 2003, 02:15:59 PM
?!) and Sunday.Isnt the next issue of Famitsu supposed to be out today?
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 28, 2003, 02:29:32 PM
Post by: manunited4eva22 on October 28, 2003, 03:00:46 PM
1) Dress up in monster or sort of cops
2) Play tag
3) switch costumes when tagged
4) repeat
Post by: Mario on October 28, 2003, 03:02:35 PM
Post by: BlkPaladin on October 28, 2003, 05:40:39 PM
Sigh I checked the web site they do have some news stories today but one of them I can't read because I don't remember how to use bablefish. The others are diffentantly not about RE.
The article was about Dragon Quest 5, I guess they have yet to let it out of the bag if it exsists.
Post by: seven_chaos on October 28, 2003, 05:48:57 PM
"Shinji Mikami (creator of Biohazard and Devil May Cry) and Hideo Kojima (creator of Metal Gear Solid) are co-producing a new title for more than one year, exact details are unknown."
Maybe that has something to do with this huge announcement we're all waiting for.
Post by: BlkPaladin on October 28, 2003, 05:57:23 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 28, 2003, 07:57:03 PM
get it?
Post by: Mario on October 28, 2003, 10:44:24 PM
Famitsu announced.... *drum roll*... it will no longer have a Biohazard corner, the next issue will be the last appearance of it.
*cough*
So yeah, Famitsu are no longer having a Biohazard column or something
Post by: akdaman1 on October 28, 2003, 11:32:05 PM
Post by: mouse_clicker on October 29, 2003, 02:23:12 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 29, 2003, 02:39:00 AM
Am I disappointed? Uh, no...
Then it's settled...
(edit: Um....why isn't it on Famitsu's site? Why!? *shakes fist at Mario*)
Post by: Sirmorphix on October 29, 2003, 06:25:07 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on October 29, 2003, 06:42:30 AM
As much as I don't care for most American gaming magazines I highly doubt any of them would do something like this. Are the Japanese readers not pissed off about this?
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 29, 2003, 08:21:49 AM
Post by: Pale on October 29, 2003, 11:36:44 AM
Post by: Grey Ninja on October 29, 2003, 01:24:16 PM
Post by: mouse_clicker on October 29, 2003, 01:29:04 PM
Also, Nintendo doesn't own all of Silicon Knights, I believe, but Denis has said before that he really sees no distinction between the two- when you refer to one, you're referring to the other.
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 29, 2003, 01:30:25 PM
Post by: Mario on October 29, 2003, 02:56:32 PM
Im glad its nothing
Post by: nitsu niflheim on October 29, 2003, 03:28:53 PM
Post by: Sirmorphix on October 29, 2003, 04:06:03 PM
Not really, there is nothing stupid or idiotic about conjecturing on rumours. Especially when rumours come from a website that you have said is one of the few you trust. The Magic Box normally labels rumours with a tag that says "rumour" in bold, they didn't do that with this new post, so I don't see why we wouldn't trust their word as they are a very reliable website.
Personally I enjoy getting worked up and trading rumours and what not. It builds excitement and keeps conversations going during fairly inactive or otherwise unexciting times during a console's life span.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 29, 2003, 05:35:41 PM
It's just another perfect groundless excuse to type out the word MEGATON
cuz MEGATON is part of our everyday language now
MEGATON
banzai
MEGATON
Post by: The Omen on October 29, 2003, 05:51:52 PM
Post by: Grey Ninja on October 29, 2003, 07:29:28 PM
In Japanese:
"We have some news for you Resident Evil fans for next week. Stay tuned."
In German:
"Exciting Resident Evil news next week reported in Famitsu. We'll keep you posted."
In English:
"Famitsu says in the next issue it will have shocking announcement regarding RE series, its not related to RE4."
After a couple of days on the PGC forums:
"OMG NEW RESIDENT EVIL GAME M3G4T0N!!!!!"
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 29, 2003, 09:20:54 PM
Truly M3G4T0N tomorrow giving the pleasure!
I can't contan myserf for joy!
Biohazard announcement
Screenshots
Post by: Berny on October 30, 2003, 01:36:10 PM
Post by: Grey Ninja on October 30, 2003, 01:45:16 PM
