Post by: nolimit19 on October 16, 2003, 07:03:56 PM
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Post by: thecubedcanuck on October 17, 2003, 02:40:26 AM
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Post by: KnowsNothing on October 17, 2003, 10:35:21 AM
This kid in my class is such a sox fan that he didn't talk to anybody the first half of school.
This happened to be the same kid who once said you could get a Mario game on the xbox. That made me angry.
Post by: nolimit19 on October 17, 2003, 10:40:58 AM
Post by: The Omen on October 17, 2003, 11:37:02 AM
Post by: Berny on October 17, 2003, 11:51:13 AM
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Originally posted by: The Omen
I love how everybody hates the Yankees because they win. They didnt win from '78 until '96. I didn't hear people bitching back then. Then they get great again, and people come out crying. People need to get over it. they spend too much, blah blah blah. Jeter , Williams , Petitte, Soriano , Nick Johnson, Posada-all from their minor league system.
Get over it? They are monopolizing baseball. Of course we didn't bitch then. They weren't good then. If evey team had players whose skills are almost equally matched with other teams, games would be a lot more interesting. And I wouldn't hate the Yankees.
Personally I think a salary cap would help even if every Yankees player would get the max.
Post by: The Omen on October 18, 2003, 09:28:32 AM
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Post by: nolimit19 on October 18, 2003, 03:53:34 PM
edit: you did make a good point about hte yanks using their minor league though.
Post by: KnowsNothing on October 18, 2003, 03:56:20 PM
I refuse to watch the world series. I hate both teams. Red Sox should have one. Doun wit da Yanks.
So yeah, pretty much what The Omen said.
Post by: nolimit19 on October 18, 2003, 08:52:06 PM
Post by: The Omen on October 19, 2003, 06:44:21 AM
About the Yanks, everyteam can do what they do. They choose not to. There is no cap , and if the owner really wanted to win, they'd make the financial sacrifice. Most owners get into this to make money, which is why they don't. Its cool to have an actual fan own the team, klike Steinbrenner, because if i owned my stinking Phillies, i'd overspend until we won, knowing the money would come from winning. And lets not forget, everyteam is gaining worth while these owners say theyre losing money, so in effect, they never really are losing anything. Go spend some cash you tight wads! Also, i think if you look in the last 50 years, you'd see its a lot less than once every 4 years. Youre taking into account days of old like the 20's to the 50's. I think we can forgive them back then as Mr. Stienbrenner was not there spending 150 million
Post by: nolimit19 on October 20, 2003, 04:08:34 PM
Post by: kennyb27 on October 20, 2003, 04:46:39 PM
If a player isn't performing to his maximum abilities, Steinbrenner puts the choke on Torre to bench the underachiever or even trades him away. Also, if the Yankees are in a position where they can't get much better, Steinbrenner will immediately walk up to the trading block and put in an extremely high bid for an All-Star (eg, let's go with the ALCS hero, Aaron Boone) that no other team can afford to match.
Therefore, the team has almost no team cohesion, because they don't have a chance to acquire it.
There's a couple more reasons, but I'm tired of typing.
Post by: The Omen on October 20, 2003, 06:50:17 PM
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the only reason football is so balanced is because of revenue sharing
Not true. There is a salary cap on the amount you can spend, as well as an amount you can't go below. (i believe 45 million) Everybody has to spend just about the same, give or take about 5 million.
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Also, if the Yankees are in a position where they can't get much better, Steinbrenner will immediately walk up to the trading block and put in an extremely high bid for an All-Star (eg, let's go with the ALCS hero, Aaron Boone) that no other team can afford to match.
Really now? You mean like David Ortiz, whom Steinbrenner almost demanded Cashmen acquire? What exactly did the Yanks give up to get Boone, by the way? Prospects? How do you get prospects? By having a great scouting department. I have no pity for a team dumping salary like the Reds, and to blame the Yankees for giving up 3 players to get him is ridiculous. You have every right to hate the Yanks, since theyre your biggest rival, but dont tell me acquiring players that a team dumps is unethical. Red Sox do it all the time. Jeff Suppan anyone?
Post by: thecubedcanuck on October 20, 2003, 07:13:12 PM
No team cohesion? You dont think Jeter, Williams, Posada, Soriano have jelled?
The yanks have quite a longterm unit developing, they have shuffled around a few pieces here and there, but they have had a pretty solid stable core for a while now.
As for my sox, oh well.
Go Flyers, it is hockey time after all.
Post by: Termin8Anakin on October 20, 2003, 09:07:25 PM
Phhht!
Play a real man's game, like Cricket! Now THERE'S a game!
Post by: KnowsNothing on October 21, 2003, 04:39:51 PM
*sniff.......poor cricket.....sniff*
