Post by: Koopa Troopa on September 20, 2003, 10:18:53 PM
Post by: Mario on September 21, 2003, 04:02:53 AM
Post by: PIAC on September 21, 2003, 08:56:30 PM
actually it would make a great port, its an awsome game, they better not add alot to it, or else ill have to own it twice, and then i would feel screwed ;P
Post by: Koopa Troopa on September 24, 2003, 07:57:21 PM
BTW, I apologize for not replying sooner. This is the first time I've been able to visit more than one page on PGC for a while.
Post by: Gibdo Master on September 24, 2003, 08:43:04 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 25, 2003, 03:42:16 AM
"Wait for next-gen: better controls, updated graphics, and basically new everything"
*Magic 8-balls are not meant to actually tell the truth and all predictions are speculation by the owner*
Post by: Gibdo Master on September 25, 2003, 05:37:03 PM
Post by: Koopa Troopa on September 26, 2003, 11:35:59 AM
Post by: KnowsNothing on September 27, 2003, 08:34:45 AM
But my case is the same as Mario's. Love to play, don't have SNES. But Zero mission will be enough, I think. I tried playing Metroid after I played Fusion, and it was just horrible. Updated controls will be like a dream.
Post by: Koopa Troopa on September 27, 2003, 10:50:20 AM
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But my case is the same as Mario's. Love to play, don't have SNES. But Zero mission will be enough, I think. I tried playing Metroid after I played Fusion, and it was just horrible. Updated controls will be like a dream.
So it has been confirmed that Zero Mission is a Metroid remake?
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 27, 2003, 10:55:57 AM
Zero Mission is NOT a remake...
Post by: KnowsNothing on September 27, 2003, 02:21:12 PM
I figured it was since one of the screens looked EXACTLY like the begining ot Metroid and everyone was talking about it. I guess it would make sense if it was before Metroid or something, I dunno. Please excuse my stupidity.
Post by: Gibdo Master on September 27, 2003, 08:12:32 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 27, 2003, 08:20:30 PM
Post by: Gibdo Master on September 28, 2003, 08:26:04 PM
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I'm more involved in the GBA version of the next Metroid game, Metroid Zero Mission - in the past game we put emphasis on the storyline, but in Zero Mission I want the game to go back to the basics.
More emphasis on the gameplay, exploration, riddle-solving by action, etc. I am asking each individual artist and designer now to come up with many ideas, and I'm going to use that to set certain goals for Metroid Zero Mission.
Post by: Koopa Troopa on September 29, 2003, 09:28:12 PM
Post by: Gibdo Master on September 30, 2003, 03:04:09 PM
Post by: Koopa Troopa on October 01, 2003, 03:56:47 PM
Post by: Gibdo Master on October 01, 2003, 06:13:10 PM
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Many GBA games are simply ports from exisiting SNES titles - like the Mario Advance series and Zelda: A Link to the Past - but Metroid Fusion was a brand new game - why was the decision taken to come up with a totally original game?
Sakamoto: We always try to do something really unprecedented, something people have never played before. Many of our designers and creators want to challenge something new rather than simply porting over an old title. That's something I hope we'll always do. If you can challenge something new, you can look forward to the public response, be it good or bad.
Depending on the response from the public, we can explore some new paths for the new game, which is the only way for us to move ahead. I know that Metroid always has to grow - we've always been challenging with the Metroid games.
He said he doesn't like the idea of simply PORTING a game. Metroid Zero Mission would not be a port it would be a REMAKE with upgraded graphics and sound as well as many other big changes to the original game.
My biggest reason for thinking it's a remake besides the evidence from the pics and vids is that I don't see where this game can fit in the Metroid time line. It can't happen before the original Metroid because the Metroid manual makes it pretty clear that that was her first trip to Zebes and her first encounter with the Metroids. The space between Metroid and Metroid II is taken up by Metroid Prime and most likely Prime 2. I don't think there's any room between Metroid II and Super Metroid because of the way the story is laid out in Super Metroid about what happened after Metroid II. It can't happen between Super Metroid and Fusion because Zero Mission obviously takes place on Zebes and it was destroyed at the end of Super Metroid. It can't happen after Fusion because at the end of that game she still had the Fusion Suit and in all the pics and vids for Zero Mission it's clear she is wearing the original Power Suit. Oh and Zebes would still be destroyed at that point too. So where the hell would it go?
If it's not a remake I hope they don't pull something cheap like "the space pirates rebuilt Zebes" and "Samus magically gets her old suit back with no explanation" because that would be total crap.
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 02, 2003, 05:13:16 PM
1) It can take place on another planet, a la Metroid Prime on Tallon IV...
2) The Chozo basically mass-produced all the gear that Samus uses...How else could she get them in every single game?
Post by: Gibdo Master on October 02, 2003, 06:38:43 PM
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Both are easily explainable
1) It can take place on another planet, a la Metroid Prime on Tallon IV...
Two questions:
1. Have you actually seen the pics and vids of Zero Mission?
2. Have you even played the original Metroid or Super Metroid for that matter?
The reason I ask is because it should be clear that almost all the areas shown in Zero Mission pics and vids came straight out of Metroid or Super Metroid. Both games by the way take place on Zebes. So that means that Zero Mission takes place on Zebes too.
By the way click here to see several pics comparing all three games thanks to derrickkendall of the IGN.com Metroid boards.
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2) The Chozo basically mass-produced all the gear that Samus uses...How else could she get them in every single game?
I realize that she could find another Power Suit the Chozo left lying around or something. My point was is that we haven't seen her in the Fusion Suit in any of the Zero Mission pics or vids. Even in pics and vids that clearly show she only has one or two Energy Tanks (indicating it's near the beginning of the game) she is wearing the Power Suit. I suppose that it could be explained how she gets it back in the opening cinema but you still have the problem with Zebes to deal with anyway.
Post by: Koopa Troopa on October 02, 2003, 09:03:46 PM
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He said he doesn't like the idea of simply PORTING a game. Metroid Zero Mission would not be a port it would be a REMAKE with upgraded graphics and sound as well as many other big changes to the original game.
Sorry, but a remake barely differs from a port, yeah it takes more work but it is the same premise. Besides he made it quite clear he wants to do NEW things. I can't argue with you based on the Metroid timeline, because I don't really have any information readily available (I could search, but I'm far too lazy).
But... having looked at the screenshot comparisons you posted... I guess I am wrong. I still don't think anything Sakamoto said alluded to a remake, though.
I didn't realize Nintendo had made two "builds" of Zero Mission. That was pretty interesting
Post by: Gibdo Master on October 02, 2003, 10:15:31 PM
Also there is a pretty big difference between a port and remake. You know how you can unlock Metroid as a bonus on the Metroid Prime disk. Well that was a port because it was identical to the original game. Also the Ocarina of Time bonus disk for Wind Waker was a port. A remake is when they make an updated version of an older game from the ground up. The most common thing changed is graphics and sound but like in the case of Zero Mission they can also add new areas, enemies, items, and bosses.
That early build came from a video that Nintendo released at the very beginning of E3. It was put up on one of their Japanese sites. Metroid Fusion also had an early build which was even uglier than Zero Mission's. Click here to see some pics of it.
I want to make it clear again that I realize that it hasn't officially been announced it's a remake and it could very well be a new game. With all the things I mentioned earlier though I am leaning towards it being a remake until we get some actual info about what this game is.
Post by: Koopa Troopa on October 03, 2003, 09:13:07 AM
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Also there is a pretty big difference between a port and remake. You know how you can unlock Metroid as a bonus on the Metroid Prime disk. Well that was a port because it was identical to the original game. Also the Ocarina of Time bonus disk for Wind Waker was a port. A remake is when they make an updated version of an older game from the ground up. The most common thing changed is graphics and sound but like in the case of Zero Mission they can also add new areas, enemies, items, and bosses.
Yes, I know the difference between a remake and a port.
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I want to make it clear again that I realize that it hasn't officially been announced it's a remake and it could very well be a new game. With all the things I mentioned earlier though I am leaning towards it being a remake until we get some actual info about what this game is.
I'd never seen the Zero Mission footage (only a few screenshots), but having watched it and seen those comparisons, I think you are right.
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 03, 2003, 02:28:54 PM
Post by: Gibdo Master on October 03, 2003, 04:27:12 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 04, 2003, 03:52:54 AM
Post by: Syl on October 11, 2003, 08:01:37 PM
Helll, i wouldn't be surprised if it took us to Maridia this time through... theres a chance this game might even be better than super metroid if pulled off correctly. I just hope it doesn't use the fusion missile/supermissile system, which made supermissiles generally pointless.
The fact that the LONG BEAM is even in it, at all, makes me think its definately a remake of the original.
Post by: Gibdo Master on October 11, 2003, 08:45:30 PM
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The fact that the LONG BEAM is even in it, at all, makes me think its definately a remake of the original.
Yeah, the Long Beam has only been in the original Metroid. Main reason why is because it's stupid to make the player start with the short beam. It's just more evidence that it is more than likely a remake like you said.
Post by: SuperLink666 on October 12, 2003, 05:18:29 AM
Post by: Pepsolman on October 13, 2003, 08:35:54 AM
Post by: GoldShadow1 on October 15, 2003, 02:18:46 PM
Post by: Syl on October 16, 2003, 12:35:17 PM
Chrono Trigger is also around 30$ at this moment, so the rarity of Super Metroid and Chrono Trigger (and FF3, secret of mana, earthbound) are all equal.
(I own every game i just mentioned o.O)
Also, I didn't buy Super Mario All Stars + because I prefer to play the games on the GBA if i have the ability, Portable gaming = portable for a reason, I can play it wherever I go, somthing I really enjoy.
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 16, 2003, 12:40:37 PM
Post by: Syl on October 16, 2003, 06:11:20 PM
*Unecessary Bragging* I got my SNES copy of Chrono Trigger for FREE, a friend gave it to me */unecessary Bragging*
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 16, 2003, 06:15:00 PM
Post by: KnowsNothing on October 16, 2003, 06:18:07 PM
