Post by: Mario on September 20, 2003, 03:41:06 AM
IGNs latest impresions of it were awesome, they claim its better than Paper Mario and has over 40 hours of gameplay! Also the platforming element is more of a focus point in this one apparently, but it still has the same RPG elements of Paper Mario.
I cant freakin wait for this game, one of my most anticipated games EVER
Post by: kennyb27 on September 20, 2003, 05:33:20 AM
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Post by: Bill Aurion on September 20, 2003, 03:25:22 PM
Post by: Mario on September 20, 2003, 06:51:48 PM
What a great day that will be
Post by: Gup on September 20, 2003, 07:28:29 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 20, 2003, 07:39:16 PM
The battle engine is very, very similar to Paper Mario. Players not only choose how to defeat certain enemies by working within a menu system, but they also have physical, direct control of specific movements for attacks and defense. If an enemy attacks, for example, players can "save" the character being attacked with a realtime defense move (early in the game it's just a "jump"). For attacks, players can amplify the power by timing the button press at the point of impact...or pull off a move that requires several controller and button presses in sequence. Players can choose to up the power of these attacks by making them faster or removing the helpful on-screen button icons, but these have a higher rate of failure." -IGN
As you can see, it's more complicated than A for Mario to jump, B for Luigi to jump...
Post by: Joey on September 22, 2003, 08:02:08 PM
Post by: Berny on November 02, 2003, 08:49:41 AM
Mario: Oh, Peach. I–a love you so.
Peach: [opens mouth] ka BOOOOOOMMMM!!!
*explosion blows Mario to Mushroom Kingdom come*
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 02, 2003, 10:08:34 AM
Post by: BoboThePenguin on November 02, 2003, 12:10:02 PM
Post by: Berny on November 03, 2003, 10:59:35 AM
Post by: benomoth on November 09, 2003, 03:08:35 PM
Loved Super Mario RPG(second fav only to Chrono Trigger) and thought Paper Mario was great although very short
I hope this one is similiar
Post by: nitsu niflheim on November 10, 2003, 06:10:43 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on November 10, 2003, 06:32:12 AM
Super Mario RPG is possibly my favourite game of all time depending on my mood. It's in the top five for sure. Paper Mario was also quite good but I didn't like the change in design very much and never got round to completing it. The graphics were too cutesy and the storyline was the cliche "Bowser kidnaps the Princess" routine. In my opinion the Mushroom Kingdom presented in Super Mario RPG is the best interpretation of Mario's world I've seen yet. Odd that Square, a third party, was able to nail it so dead on and not a Nintendo first party.
Anyway since I prefer Super Mario RPG I was pretty disappointed to see that Mario & Luigi was going for a more Paper Mario style (and that Square who is now working with Nintendo again was not developing it). I've noticed that when it comes to sequels Nintendo tends to always stick with their most recent design despite which design is more popular (note how Yoshi has maintained his Yoshi's Story look eventhough Yoshi's Island is by far the more popular game with fans).
I'll be getting it anyway and I'm sure it will be a great game. At the very least it already has a better storyline than Paper Mario. However I can't help but feel that there's a lot of wasted potential in not expanding on the Super Mario RPG style. Hopefully (though probably unlikely) Square will work on a Cube Mario RPG.
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 12, 2003, 02:29:45 PM
And Famitsu scores Mario&Luigi!
10, 9, 9, 9
Post by: Mario on November 12, 2003, 05:22:37 PM
!!!!!!!WOAH!
Nice score!
Post by: nitsu niflheim on November 13, 2003, 02:54:52 AM
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on November 16, 2003, 06:01:59 AM
Post by: Molobert on November 16, 2003, 06:10:37 AM
-About how long do you think it lasts?
Thanks
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on November 16, 2003, 07:30:16 AM
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-How does it look on the game boy player?
-About how long do you think it lasts?
Thanks
Looks great on GBP, and has rumble support too. There is even a Zelda: OoT kind of feature that makes the controller rumble when you are over secret places in the ground. I have recorded some movies of it running on my GBP, but I'm having trouble getting the movies to encode. Hopefully I can fix the problem soon.
As for length, hard to say when I haven't finished it, but it seems to be plenty long, at least as long as Paper Mario and Super Mario RPG.
Post by: vudu on November 17, 2003, 10:55:46 AM
but it really depends on how fast you play. final fantasy tactics advance was supposed to take around 40 hours and i'm 55 hours into it and not even close to beating it.
Post by: Ian Sane on November 17, 2003, 12:52:26 PM
That's some pretty high praise. But then again a lot of people said Wind Waker was the best Zelda ever when it came out and though I really like that game it's far from the best (probably fifth in my opinion). So I guess I'll wait and see but at the very least it sounds like it's awesome. And the inclusion of rumble is pretty cool.
Post by: novastar512 on November 17, 2003, 02:09:32 PM
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Post by: KDR_11k on November 18, 2003, 07:19:03 AM
Post by: vudu on November 18, 2003, 07:34:08 AM
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How many save files does Mario & Luigi have?
3
Post by: vudu on November 18, 2003, 07:35:09 AM
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Damn, if just I hadn't wasted my money on SMA4 and MKDD...
i wouldn't quite call that a "waste". spending money on food, clothing, and shelter is a waste.
Post by: joshnickerson on November 18, 2003, 02:46:56 PM
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Post by: Mario on November 22, 2003, 12:42:12 PM
I wont be able to get it until Christmas though, oh well, i can wait...
If only Nintendo made a game like this for the GameCube. *waiting for details of Paper Mario GC*
Post by: Ceric on July 31, 2006, 12:43:39 PM
Post by: Infernal Monkey on July 31, 2006, 02:09:16 PM
Post by: vudu on July 31, 2006, 02:24:01 PM
Besides, since Mario & Luigi recently because a Player's Choice game (take that, Aussies!) people will probably play the game who have never experienced the game.
(Who am I kidding? Stupid bump.)
Post by: Ceric on July 31, 2006, 05:31:40 PM
Post by: couchmonkey on August 01, 2006, 05:36:21 AM
I loved Mario & Luigi, but personally I found the Zelda-esque overworld kind of tedious and frustrating. I think the original Super Mario RPG still has the best overworld system: you can use the map to go directly to the area you want to, and it's reminiscent of the platformers to boot.
Post by: Mario on August 01, 2006, 06:41:07 AM
Post by: couchmonkey on August 04, 2006, 08:29:38 AM
Overall, it seems like they rushed Partners in Time out, but in my opinion it's rushed in the best kind of way: they just made it short and sweet rather than trying to artificially lengthen it with fetch-quests and the like. If length is a big requirement for you in game purchases, then I'd say look for a used copy.
Post by: Ceric on August 04, 2006, 09:57:23 AM
Post by: EasyCure on August 04, 2006, 10:42:00 AM
partners in time seems like a good purchase but if its short i guess i will find a used copy.
ceric had a good question as well, does it retain the humor of the other mario rpgs??
Post by: Blue Plant on August 04, 2006, 11:51:37 AM
Post by: couchmonkey on August 04, 2006, 12:13:53 PM
Edit: there's an entire quest built around Luigi's cowardice. They cut out the "Green guy" jokes, but snuck one in right at the end.
Post by: Allenhan on August 14, 2006, 06:15:21 AM
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on August 14, 2006, 06:18:54 AM
Post by: Ceric on August 14, 2006, 06:32:48 AM
Post by: Spak-Spang on August 14, 2006, 11:05:05 AM
It had very tight and engaging combat system, that not only required smart "Mario Strategy" but also required precision timing to get the best hit. The combat was very engaging and enjoyable.
The story was also incredibly funny, and if you are any kind of Mario fan it will make you burst out laughing.
The DS sequel isn't nearly as good. The combat system is similar but relies too heavily on items...and the timed button presses during combat became too complicated. It was too risky to use some of the better items in the game. Which is a shame.
Now the Paper Mario series I haven't played completely through, but the Nintendo 64 version was a blast and highly addicting. Though, it was lighthearted it felt less like a comedy to me.
I never really played Super Mario RPG so I can't comment on that game...but it would have to be pretty amazing to beat Super Mario Super Star Saga.
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 14, 2006, 11:50:35 AM
Nonsense! The timed button attacks are SOOOO much better than the horrible Bros. Attacks from the first game...
Post by: Spak-Spang on August 14, 2006, 03:42:57 PM
That is my only complaint about the game. I loved the experience and the story was silly fun.
Post by: Deguello on August 14, 2006, 08:00:38 PM
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While this thread is bumped and we're talking about it, no way is this game better than Super Mario RPG. It's pretty good, but I don't think it compares to the Mario RPG gameplay (not to mention godly Mario RPG soundtrack).
Mario and Luigi takes huge greasy shits onto Mario RPG everyday of the week with its patented "GAMEPLAY" engine. The battles are much more livelier and fun to play than the FF8 crap that was in SMRPG, and the game world is much more interesting and platform-y. Take off the rose-colored wayback glasses. Mario RPG is lesser.
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on August 14, 2006, 08:32:55 PM
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Originally posted by: DeguelloMario and Luigi takes huge greasy shits onto Mario RPG everyday of the week with its patented "GAMEPLAY" engine. The battles are much more livelier and fun to play than the FF8 crap that was in SMRPG, and the game world is much more interesting and platform-y. Take off the rose-colored wayback glasses. Mario RPG is lesser.
Yeah pretty cool gameplay doing the same thing over and over again with only two characters
Post by: KDR_11k on August 15, 2006, 12:10:17 AM
Post by: Arbok on August 15, 2006, 11:56:04 AM
I mean, really, the SNES one had it all:
- excellent pacing for a RPG making it easy to replay from start to finish
- some nice secrets if you don't feel like brisking through (Culex anyone?)
- great music
- diverse party of characters to play as
- the ability to pick up Mario and throw him at enemies as Bowser (I mean, how can you compare?)
- the neat side games along the way
All in all, I really loved Super Mario RPG. It was a great collaboration between Square and Nintendo, whose only real fault was that it could have been longer and that the Yoshi race was kind of a bore.
Post by: KnowsNothing on August 15, 2006, 12:12:01 PM
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Post by: Smash_Brother on August 15, 2006, 12:40:39 PM
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Originally posted by: S-U-P-E-R Yeah pretty cool gameplay doing the same thing over and over again with only two characters
I have to agree.
I'm not exactly a huge fan of the turn based RPGs (I liked them for a while but outgrew them) but I thought Mario and Luigi did get boring after a while, especially the battles which did get repetitive (more so near the end).
Post by: Deguello on August 15, 2006, 01:04:20 PM
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Originally posted by: DeguelloMario and Luigi takes huge greasy shits onto Mario RPG everyday of the week with its patented "GAMEPLAY" engine. The battles are much more livelier and fun to play than the FF8 crap that was in SMRPG, and the game world is much more interesting and platform-y. Take off the rose-colored wayback glasses. Mario RPG is lesser.
Yeah pretty cool gameplay doing the same thing over and over again with only two characters
What is this, gamefaqs? Cry more n00b.
As opposed to what? Doing the same thing over and over with 3 characters? or was it 5 in SMRPG? OMG More characters = better. Sounds like Sonic Team logic to me. And LOL We are talking about RPGs here. "Doing the same thing over and over" is a common criticism for them all. In Mario and Luigi it is just more FUN to do those things over and over because of the way the battles are set up; Thry allow more timed button presses that allow more skilled gameplay to weedle itself in, as opposed to the lesser "mash this button" or "Hold button until stars appear" approach in Mario RPG. I am not going to demean Mario RPG's contribution to the RPG world, but there is a new king, and it is Mario and Luigi, either one, though I lean towards the GBA entry.
And the music in Mario and Luigi is better too, OH SNAP, GOES AGAINST COMMON KNOWLEDGE
Post by: Spak-Spang on August 15, 2006, 01:42:50 PM
However, that is because generally I don't like RPGs...because if you don't enjoy the leveling up aspects many RPGs can be insanely boring.
Mario and Luigi for the GBA was a funny simple adventure that I would agree is short, but I thought that was a strength. It had enough surprises and humor, and then it moved on to the end of the story without dragging out or becoming boring.
The two party system worked because fighting was less about strategy and more about precision button pressing and being Mario and Luigi. For a role playing game it still felt like a platformer.
The DS sequel continued in this tradition, however, complicated the play mechanics without really enhancing them. It almost felt more simplistic than the original...and that isn't good.
Post by: Ceric on August 15, 2006, 03:24:51 PM
Post by: hudsonhawk on August 16, 2006, 05:45:12 AM
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I'm not exactly a huge fan of the turn based RPGs (I liked them for a while but outgrew them) but I thought Mario and Luigi did get boring after a while, especially the battles which did get repetitive (more so near the end).
Hear hear. I got about halfway through Partners and then got so incredibly bored with it that I sold it.
Post by: Ghisy on August 19, 2006, 07:48:46 AM
The final boss in PiT was a b**ch though! It took me like 3 hours to defeat it!
Post by: couchmonkey on August 21, 2006, 05:30:41 AM
- felt like I was being rushed through the game, there was never a chance to relax, compared to other RPGs. Partners in Time has obvious "breaks" in the action.
- the big overworld kind of annoyed me. The pipe system helps a little, but I still felt like I spent too much time walking around (and searching for save points).
- the story was very funny, but it didn't feel as "epic" as the other Mario RPGs. Not that any of them are huge epics, but they do tend to feel a little more grand than the usual "save the princess" plot of the regular Mario games.
