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Title: What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: Swordsplay on September 11, 2003, 07:08:42 AM
If you were going to make the next zelda for the gamecube, what would the story be about, and would you do it in graphics or cel shading?

I would do where Link fights ganondorf as usually and meets his mother and father, cuz you never know who they are.  There would be 20 temples in the game to solve puzzles in with 40 different zelda items to use.  All in 3D perfect gamecube graphics.
Title: RE:What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: Hostile Creation on September 13, 2003, 12:07:29 PM
Keep wishing, man.  Give them maybe ten years and they might be able to get that done.  And why did you make two threads?
Title: RE: What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: KnowsNothing on September 13, 2003, 12:48:43 PM
And, as stated by someone else somewhere else, what the hell are "gamecube graphics"?
Title: RE:What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: Ms.Pikmin on September 13, 2003, 03:51:40 PM
I think they should have 75 items, 32 dungeons and follow the story that Pigpen has been working on in the "The Link Soap" thread.  
Title: RE: What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: Gibdo Master on September 13, 2003, 07:38:00 PM
First of all Aonuma has already made a vague comment that Wind Waker 2 will deal with Link and Tetra finding a new land. Also why just give random numbers for how many items there should be in the game? Honestly I hope that they keep the items at a low number and just make those ones great. I hated having to file through all the masks in Majora's Mask.

Oh and if you don't already know there is more than one Link and Zelda. In fact unless otherwise stated each new game usually introduces a reborn Link and Zelda. So meeting Link's parents would be kind of pointless. If you look through a lot myths and fairy tales the hero's parents were usually killed at an early age in his life making him an orphan. The hero is then usually raised by relatives or someone or something else.

Finally I hope they will introduce a new bad guy for Wind Waker 2. Considering the ending of Wind Waker they more than likely will.  

EDIT:  Meant to say "new bad guy" not "new bad game"
Title: RE:What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: mouse_clicker on September 14, 2003, 07:14:24 AM
What do you mean "a new new bad game", Gibdo? I'm a bit confused.  
Title: RE: What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: KnowsNothing on September 14, 2003, 12:12:14 PM
I like ports since I never got to play them the first time thru.  I want them to port all the SNES games and then some, but that'll never happen.

I was going to buy a SNES on ebay.  I was so sure I was going to win I also bid on some games.  It turned out that I lost SNES and one Star Fox, so I told the dude I was some 10 year old from Ohio. (true stroy).

I REALLY want Super Metroid on the GBA, that would make me a happy camper.
Title: RE: What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: CardBoardBox on September 14, 2003, 12:16:25 PM
hmm....stroy good one =D  i think we should just wait for it to come out instead of wishing what it wont be and being dissapointed in the end. so there!  
Title: RE: What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: KnowsNothing on September 14, 2003, 12:36:50 PM
If they ever took Pigpen's story into a zeld game, I would rip out pigpen's tongue and wrap it around nintendo's neck.  and then cut off both their eyelids so their eyes dry out while they're still seeing the screen playing in front of them showing Bubble Boy.   and then I'd make them play the Charlie's Angles video game, or maybe that ET game.  No...BOTH!
Title: RE:What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: Gup on September 14, 2003, 12:55:17 PM
I would like to see the sequel to Wind Waker be less sea-orientated or atleast have some continents instead of little islands.  If they do stick to the sea-exploration style, atleast let gamers be able to use their telescope or fire cannons while sailing.
Title: RE: What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: KnowsNothing on September 14, 2003, 01:07:41 PM
Agreed.  The sailing was a nice change, but it got old fast.  You could have that much sea in the next game, just have more land.
Title: RE: What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: Gibdo Master on September 14, 2003, 07:53:24 PM
Whoops! I meant to say "new bad guy" rather than "new bad game".

Anyway I agree with Gup and KnowsNothing. I'd much rather have the over world set up similar to the one in AoL. While it was made up of mostly land there were certain areas that were split up by ocean that you had to travel across.

One thing else that I'd like to add is that Aonuma has said that he'd like Wind Waker 2 to be more like the classic Zelda games. Of course that statement is kind of vague and could mean anything but I hope it means that he wants to make the equivalent of a 3D ALttP.
Title: RE:What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: mouse_clicker on September 15, 2003, 03:22:47 AM
What would be the 3D equivalent of LttP? I wasn't under the impression there were that many differences between it and some of the other Zelda games.
Title: RE: What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: Gibdo Master on September 15, 2003, 03:15:00 PM
Well Zelda 64 was pretty close. Of course you can tell it's strongly based on ALttP. The only way it actually fell short was because of the way the over world was set up. You know the whole hub thing. Obviously it doesn't have to be identical to ALttP but it should capture the same epic feeling and play in a similar manner. Majora's Mask was very different from ALttP and Wind Waker was almost nothing like it.

With the abilities of GameCube and how the over world was set up in Wind Waker I don't think they would have any problem with having a more open over world in Wind Waker 2 if it's more land based.  
Title: RE:What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: Gup on September 15, 2003, 07:03:42 PM
After recently playing LttP and SCII, I think they need to revive the dash attack(charging stab), but it would be a little hard to implement into the gameplay. ***Dream on, Gup!***
Title: RE:What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: Hostile Creation on September 16, 2003, 01:51:52 PM
I don't think it'd be that hard, Gup.  I can imagine it right now.  Just put on the boots and you can run faster than normal (they wouldn't have a charging run like in the 2D games; it'd be sort of like wearing the bunny hood in MM), but when you charged up your blade, instead of doing a spin attack you'd charge really quick and knock stuff out of they way.  Good idea, methinks.  Doubtful, though, that it will actually happen.
Title: RE:What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: Swordsplay on September 18, 2003, 05:28:27 AM
Do you think Link should have a sidekick, and if so, who or what should it be?
Title: RE:What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: mjbd on September 18, 2003, 05:13:24 PM
Being that the next Zelda will likely take place on whatever land they find, sailing will likely play a lesser role this time.  Although, I hope that it does make a return.  A new bad guy would be cool, although I think Ganondorf is my favorite bad guy, if he is used everytime, it will get old.  Wind Waker was extremely polished, and hopefully they continue the trend with the sequel.  Wind Waker ran at 30fps almost all the time, maybe this time it will be all the time.  Smooth out some of the rough edges and concentrate on gameplay and story, cause the game engine is near perfect.
Title: RE:What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 18, 2003, 06:09:46 PM
My perfect Zelda game:

7 Dungeons...no more, no less.  Too few and you feel cheated, too many and the game gets tedious...

Link should be 14-15.  Link has been 10, 12, 17, etc...How bout somewhere in between

Instead of going through time and directing the wind, how bout controlling the weather!

Cel-shading of course.  Though I won't mind a change of pace next-gen

Epona!(or something like her)

ROC'S FEATHER!  **** IT NINTENDO YOU BETTER ADD IT THIS TIME!
Title: RE:What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: Gibdo Master on September 18, 2003, 08:06:01 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill
My perfect Zelda game:

7 Dungeons...no more, no less.  Too few and you feel cheated, too many and the game gets tedious...


Personally I'd go with  at least 8. This is mainly because it's become a tradition for the first three dungeons to be reserved for the items you have to collect to get the Master Sword. With 8 you'd still have 5 more to look forward to keeping in mind the last one would be the final boss dungeon. By the way the final boss dungeon should be a full on dungeon like it was in LoZ, AoL, and ALttP. I really don't like this mini dungeon style final dungeon thing that's been used in Ocarina and Wind Waker.

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Originally posted by: Bill
Link should be 14-15.  Link has been 10, 12, 17, etc...How bout somewhere in between


Agreed. This is probably the way it will happen too. I'm sure that there will be a year or two that passes between Wind Waker and Wind Waker 2 so Link should be older. However Aonuma has said that he doesn't think that cel-shading would work for adult Link so 14-15 would be the best bet.

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Originally posted by: Bill
Instead of going through time and directing the wind, how bout controlling the weather!


I like this idea too but it's pretty much already been done in Oracle of Seasons. I suppose that controlling the seasons and the weather are two different things though since there's more options than just Fall, Winter, Spring, and Summer. You could make it snowy, windy, rainy, sunny, foggy, etc. There could be tons of uses for each form of weather too not to mention it would just be nice to be able to make it rain or snow at anytime and watch it.  

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Originally posted by: Bill
Epona!(or something like her)


Agreed again. The boat was just no replacement for Epona. Also I think it would look pretty cool getting to ride a horse in cel-shaded graphics. Just hope they don't decide to use a kangaroo or something stupid like that. *shudders*

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Originally posted by: Bill
ROC'S FEATHER!  **** IT NINTENDO YOU BETTER ADD IT THIS TIME!


Don't really see the point. I mean in the GB games it just allowed you to jump but you can already jump in the 3D games anyway. I suppose it could give you the ability to jump farther or higher though.

Title: RE:What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 19, 2003, 04:05:18 AM
1) What I meant was 7 main dungeons, and then the final boss dungeon

2) Ok, if the Roc's feather isn't good enough, let's take a page out of OoS and put in the Roc's Cape.  Then you can jump further than when you just walk off the edge
Title: RE:What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: The Omen on October 10, 2003, 01:34:53 PM
I'd rather have a seasoned veteran Link, maybe in his late 20's.  Maybe he is in some position of power , daydreaming about his journeys and then he's called upon again.  I think it would be extremely cool to see an older Link, since we never have.  I could come up with a great story if i werent so tired, but you get the angle i'm taking here.
Title: RE:What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 10, 2003, 03:31:02 PM
(Adult Link won't be in the next game...guaranteed...)

I see an expansion on the story from WW, maybe 2 or 3 years down the line with Link being, say, 14-15...That's a good age I think.  They find some new land, or maybe found it long before and something weird happens, and someone gets kidnapped or such and such...Since my last post, I've thought of a lot of possible ideas about things Link could control...Oh, the power of imagination  
Title: RE: What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: CardBoardBox on October 10, 2003, 04:45:58 PM
lol...a teen link eh?? different...but it could work -.- although I think they are done with the link from OoT ....its gona be another windwaker...or one with that character
Title: RE:What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 10, 2003, 05:32:55 PM
Well Ninty has already confirmed that Link will look different...The only way I can see this happening is if he has aged a little...I personally would like to see a Link that resembles the Oracle games art  

(Oh yeah, it's obviously going to take place after WW, me thinks)
Title: RE: What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: Gibdo Master on October 10, 2003, 05:55:42 PM
I think the "Link will look different" thing will be like how young Link in Majoar's Mask looked different from Ocarina young Link. I hope they add the sword and shield belt that went across his body (I don't know what it's called) from Majora's Mask in Wind Waker 2. I thought it was a nice improvement over the Ocarina model and frankly it looks dumb just having Link's sword and shield magically attached to his body. I was pretty dissapointed that the belt was absent in Wind Waker.
Title: RE:What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 10, 2003, 06:24:00 PM
Nintendo's answer?  "Hylian Velcro"
Title: RE: What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: PIAC on October 12, 2003, 02:09:22 AM
yay lets have a 13 year old link that speaks to people saying 'omghi2u asl?!?!?!111111111?!' and 'true dat' we can call it Legend of Zelda, Adventures in n00b land </stupid idea>

but yeah, a slightly aged link from wind waker would be a good idea, and to have partial sea partial land, like a giant coastal map, still with a few islands but mostly land with some mountains and stuff aswell, i would thumbs up to that, controling the weather sounds good too, using fog to sneak by stuff, using rain to help againsed a giant fire demon (or something) and so forth, perhaps the wind waker baton gets upgraded by some god of faerie along the way to this new land they are sailing for?
Title: RE:What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: Gibdo Master on October 12, 2003, 05:55:33 PM
See the map here. Well, the Wind Waker 2 map should look something like that.  
Title: RE:What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: Ocarina_Jedi on October 13, 2003, 02:51:48 PM
That map looks pretty good but it seems a little mashed together.  Spread that out some and maybe throw on another island and maybe an underground area, and I think you've got a great layout there.

If Link is a year or two older in WW2, that would be great.  I thought that he looked too young in WW.
If Ninty keeps the same engine as WW, and pairs it with a good story, I think that WW2 could be the greatest Zelda ever.  If they listen to all of our tips, that is.
Title: RE:What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: Gibdo Master on October 13, 2003, 03:12:37 PM
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Originally posted by: Ocarina_Jedi
That map looks pretty good but it seems a little mashed together.  Spread that out some and maybe throw on another island and maybe an underground area, and I think you've got a great layout there.


LOL. You do realize that map is the Adventure of Link over world don't you? I just wanted to throw that out there because I personally feel it was the best over world design out of all the Zelda games and I've also always wanted to see an over world similar to that in a 3D Zelda. Wind Waker 2 would be the perfect oppurtunity to do an over world like that.  
Title: RE:What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 13, 2003, 04:00:42 PM
Don't forget the huge giant forest!  Does anyone remember the old OoT screens where trees in the Lost Woods were made of polygons?  Those screens looked really cool.  I want to see something like that.  A giant endless Lost Woods...Something you can actually get lost in
Title: RE:What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: Ocarina_Jedi on October 14, 2003, 02:45:33 PM
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Originally posted by: Gibdo Master


LOL. You do realize that map is the Adventure of Link over world don't you? I just wanted to throw that out there because I personally feel it was the best over world design out of all the Zelda games and I've also always wanted to see an over world similar to that in a 3D Zelda. Wind Waker 2 would be the perfect oppurtunity to do an over world like that.


My bad.  I never actually got to play Adventure of Link.
Title: RE: What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: Rogue_Metaknight on October 15, 2003, 02:59:32 PM
I think the sequel to the next zelda game should be more land-based. There was too much sailing aroung in WW. Besides, you never got to use Epona Ok, so it may not have been named Epona this time, but that's beside the point. I do have to give WW credit , though, I thought the figurine guy and it gave you lots of places to explore. I think masks were also a good idea in MM, but I don't think you need that many if the game isn't focused on the whole 'mask' thing to begin with. Lastly, if NOTHING else, it has to have a good story. I thought flooding Hyrule was a good Idea, but what's next? By the way, I don't remember there being that many tall mountains.... well, that's just what I think.
Title: RE:What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: Swordsplay on November 24, 2003, 02:13:44 PM
Nah, eponas kinda getting old.  I think Link should be able to ride a dragon!  That would be sweet!  Oh, and one of the items.  A two - handed double battle ax of course!  Sweetness!

*drools*

Title: RE:What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: grassfairy on November 24, 2003, 02:25:57 PM
LOL that would be cool! Link has been on land and water and I think it's time for him to be in the air flying! That would be awsome!

(Hey I'm a girl!)
Title: RE: What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: Swordsplay on November 25, 2003, 07:35:06 AM
So ive noticed.  

But i totally agree with grass fairy

---quoted by Swordsplay---

Nah, eponas kinda getting old. I think Link should be able to ride a dragon! That would be sweet! Oh, and one of the items. A two - handed double battle ax of course! Sweetness!

*drools*


--end quote---

I think there should be some type of armor link could wear to, like chain mail or plate armor or something, that would be kinda cool!
Title: RE: What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: Berny on November 25, 2003, 12:38:17 PM
I don't like the armor idea. I like his tunic. And just the green one. The only other thing he's ever worn that totally looked awesome was his Fierce Diety's Armor, that was truly Link's greatest form. He was so badass he didn't even need a SHIELD! And his eyes and hair were white and I miss MM. I cannot keep up with all these games I hafta play.
Title: RE:What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: Polemistis on November 28, 2003, 05:37:22 PM
Hmm...after 10 mins of thinking:

I think that they should bring someone back...someone close to Ganon/Ganondorf. The villian needs to get some mysterious item to bring back Ganon/Ganondorf. Then Link gets an unexpected visit from...Navi? Hehe. Thus, he must set out once again and stop the villian from freeing Ganon/Ganondorf. BUT in the final battle at the end of the game, after Link strikes the villian down, the villian with his last breath manages to somehow free Ganon/Ganondorf. And the game ends there. The third installment of Links biggest adventure will come on Nintendos next big console, N5. And they better make it realistic graphics, it will look so damn sweet. Oh ya, maybe there should be more magic use.
Title: RE:What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: -GANON- on December 04, 2003, 11:05:40 AM
now that was a kick ass idea..but im prety sure the bad guy should be azkabanar (or whatever his name waz) the evil wizard from a link to the past who worked for ganon
he would look kick ass in cell shading (or that happy mask salesman..i never realy trusted that crepy guy)
Title: RE:What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 04, 2003, 11:14:16 AM
Agahnim just isn't that intimidating of a character to be the final boss...What I would like to see is some enemy looks to be the leader, yet there is an even greater foe lurking in the shadows...
Title: RE:What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: twinkletoes on December 04, 2003, 02:15:42 PM
I think the bad guy should be one of those fish in WW. You know, the weird looking ones (forgot their name) that add islands to your map? Well I've never liked those guys, and they should have like a fish army or something...Yeah.
Title: RE:What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: -GANON- on December 04, 2003, 03:08:18 PM
I hope they drop the whole pirate/ocean theme though. If they do that then im prety much satisfied (cant stand ocean any longer after looking forever for those damm triforce pieces)
also voice narration would be a change, since change is somthing the zelda titles hav been doin latley. i think it would improve the story's quality big time
Title: RE:What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: DarkSyphor on January 13, 2004, 03:18:00 PM

I think its should be when the original link comes back with the mask called Fierce Deity's Mask on him and creates 4 lord gurdians to protect him (which will be the original bosses he vs in Majoras Mask except there now evolved) and with the mask on him he becomes evil and so he uses all his power to find Link (the windwaker) and Destroy him, and this time the enemy is not gonna be weak, the creatures are now gonna be in groupes and are gonna be stronger than ever , if any one has played the game Terranigma , link (the windwaker) i think would go on a stats, like you kill a enemy you gain 20pts and it wont be like the shightan game (long for S***) FinalFantasy when you go and fight some one it goes into another mode, it will be as normal and also you can buy more stuff like shields and swords and etc, It ill be become one step closer to become a RPG game, and i was thinking this alot put in more players to make it 4 player with more characters, so it will be like Phanasy Star online on Game Cube, and put more magic and that will make alot of RPG and ADVETURE playes get a gamecube to play it, i think? any way i think the cartoon graphics should stay
Title: RE: What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: Guitar Smasher on January 13, 2004, 04:30:00 PM
Umm... how about not.  Sorry, I don't mean to offend you (DarkSyphor).  I guess everyone can have their opinion though...  
Title: RE:What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: DarkSyphor on January 13, 2004, 05:28:24 PM
 Oh well i thought it was good i could still dream
Title: RE:What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: mjbd on February 11, 2004, 03:58:05 PM
I really liked WW, and am very glad to hear that the sequel will run on the WW engine.  The shear size of the ocean was incredible, but the islands seemed a bit small.  Hopefully the sequel takes more time on land, and bigger villages would be nice.  Sailing could make a comeback to get to certain areas, but hopefully most are accessable by land.  More side games to, I thought the side games in OoT and MM were trick.  This is my most anticipated game by far.  Zelda WW isnt just a game, its a peice of art.  Not only in terms of visuals, but the whole experience is excellent.
Title: RE: What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: Snake 'n' Bake on April 23, 2004, 03:53:22 AM
The next game should be about a mystical gem that makes everyone 50 years older Including Link and Zelda. And it's activated by someone removing it from a special underwater dungeon. That someone is Ganon, and he has a spell that dosen't make him age but Ganon was attacked by the Dungeon Keeper and he drops the gem and it breaks into 7 pieces which, under their own power, fly all over Hyrule. So Middle-aged Link has to set out and find them, but the Dungeon Keeper confronts him and tells Link that he won't be able to find the pieces without a magical compass, which, unfourtanetly, has been broken into 5 different pieces, (5 different Dungeons) So Link has to travel all over Hyrule on a *insert magical creature/animal here* and find the compass then find the gem pieces and return it to the underwater Dungeon and as a reward the Dungeon keeper will give you the Master Sword ll so you can once again smite the evil Ganon and return Hyrule to it's original state.

So, who thinks thats a possible idea?  
Title: RE: What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 23, 2004, 10:47:53 AM
Well, just how did Ganon free himself after Wind Waker? :\
Title: RE: What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: Snake 'n' Bake on April 23, 2004, 02:31:07 PM
Well, Ganon has been slowly biding his power inside that stone tomb thingy and then he used his power to break open the stone and he shattered the first Master Sword so he could never be ridden from Hyrule! Thats how!!!

I can't believe i forgot about Gonon's stone tomb thingy.
Title: RE:What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: ThePerm on June 06, 2004, 08:50:48 AM

Ok at the end of ocarina of time
*spoilers
at the end of ocarina of time ganondorf is defeated by link and zelda. Of course zelda feels bad that link has lost his child hood so she sends him back. However, one must remember that they bannished ganon in the future and not in the past...so logically it folls that when link returns to his own time then ganondorf is still there. Also, it appears that link returns to the castle before ganondorf sacks hyrule town because zelda hasn't fleed yet.

So heres how I would do the story based off of those facts. The game actually starts off where ocarina ended in zelda's garden. Impa shows up and says ganon is coming with a huge force of men. The grand army which we see in the new zelda game. At the same time we are introduced to ganondorfs allies and whatnot. So impa comes in and grabs zelda up and tells link to run. Everyone starts fleeing but link encounters some battle. You can play here aned you can play to an extent but link is eventially scripted for default. Ganondorf is merciful picks up link and looks at him calls him pathetic and tells some of his orcish forces to take away.(however maybe link should escape and then they show some cutscene with impa telling link to find his valuble friend and zelda handing off the ocarina of time to link and then some prince of persia style super fast majora's mask flashback....a beautiful and kickass fmv that tells the story of majora's mask in a montage)

you then see a thing that says three years later. We see link in shackles with no shirt and maybe a few cuts and he's picking up and moving rocks with some gorons. Link has been enslaved and has yet to find a solution to get out. Slavory has made link a hard ass. Anyways some cut scene shows the slave labor of all the gorons and linkl building soem elaborate fortress inside of death mountain. This is where the character gets to playu. Te object is to escape enslavement.  One of links moblin opressors gives link a job to do...like he changes up links daily routine. Anyways on this routine link discovers things that can help him get out. Her does some diging and discovers an old rusty sword and a pickaxe. Anyways link escapes from prison in furious fashion. Link knows from his time traveling experience that impa and zelda afre hiding out in kokoriko so he heads there and encounters them.

link is put through some triaing with impa nad learns the ways of the shiek...eventually it shows link 20 years later all badassed and highly trained.....and so the story goes....
Title: RE:What should the next zelda be about?
Post by: Jale on June 06, 2004, 10:32:39 AM
Surely he would run into himself sooner or later?  After all, if he is sent back before the sacking of Hyrule then there would be two links in Hyrule. After the dissapearance of one Link then he would be alone again but after a few years another Link appears. Are you suggesting the mulitple timeline theorey?