Post by: Nintendo on August 11, 2003, 02:17:45 AM
*Too Human
*Super Mario Bros. 6
*Pilotwings 3
*Super Monkey Ball 3
*Pikmin 3
*Raven Blade RPG
Punch-Out 3!
Super Smash Bros. 3
Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Redemption
Time Splitters 3
Game Zero
Golden Sun
Various 3rd party titles to fill up the void left by Nintendo:
*F1
*NBA
*FIFA
*Rally
*Madden
Disney Stuff
Ridge Racer 7
Tetris Puzzler
*Most likely to appear in a perfect world?
Post by: Termin8Anakin on August 11, 2003, 02:55:03 AM
Post by: Nintendo Gamecube on August 11, 2003, 10:36:18 AM
-Tetris Original, packed with 1000 other NES games
-Pokemon RPG
-Mario REALISTIC (Wonder how that would be)
-Luigi's Shack
-Pik(cle)min
-Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Redemption
-Legend of Zelda: Final Fanatasy
Post by: Cell on August 11, 2003, 11:50:58 AM
Anyway I don't think I can offer up any kind of semi-definitive games list, it's a bit nebulous in my mind. I agree with a lot of the choices made so far, and the general thrust of the selections. Any mature-slanted titles mentioned are a plus, and anything on the sports front is as well because there is afterall a huge market for that. Whatever the list, Nintendo should have something truly special lined up, to the point of making history again in their industry. No other console, to my knowledge, has ever had a truly satisfying launch line-up... I'd go so far to say they've been at best lack-luster in the past. Prime opportunity for the big N to break the mold and come out swinging.
Post by: Ian Sane on August 11, 2003, 12:03:53 PM
I agree with you somewhat. I don't really think the "kiddyness" factor is the main problem but just that to the casual gamer Nintendo's tried and true are becoming stale. Having the "same old same old" at launch is going to give the impression that Nintendo's next console is no different than it's previous one and thus it isn't worth buying. Now Mario and Zelda are still required games in the next console's lineup but it has to be some new stuff that the real attraction. The old stuff should be supporting players while new games should be the leads. Typically it's the new stuff that really sells systems. The only time I can for sure say that Mario sold systems was when he offered a completely new game experience ie: Super Mario Bros and Super Mario 64.
Post by: Cell on August 11, 2003, 12:15:51 PM
Post by: oompah on August 11, 2003, 12:24:10 PM
Post by: Cell on August 11, 2003, 12:50:33 PM
Oh, and by sports I mean to exclude any kind of racing game, I consider that a genre unto itself.
Post by: oompah on August 11, 2003, 01:00:27 PM
Then for the Australian fans they need a rugby league game - there has never been one since ET's Rugby League on the Amiga! Then lastly (im not a big sports game fan) but maybe a horse racing game of some description. G1 Jockey was pretty good! But if thats a racing game then maybe a all round game like Summer games or california games type simulator - they were the best on the C64!
thats my 3 cents worth! :-)
Post by: Internet Nomad on August 14, 2003, 04:59:40 PM
Pokemon is a TERRIBLE idea at launch. As Cell pointed out, Nintendo has to change its image, and since the general gaming public HATES Pokemon, it would be unwise for it to be mentioned at all during the launch period. Bring it out at x-mas so all the kids will ask their parents for Nintendo's console; you've just pushed several million more consoles without alienating the shallow, casual gamer.
As for the rest of their many, many franchises, I think Cell's idea of holding off on them is best. While Zelda could be pulled off with a thoroughly badass Link (though this isn't likely considering WW2's '04 release), most of the other stuff will simply make people think 'teh kiddy.' Nintendo should in no way compromise their integrity by making some lameass GTA ripoff, but they should do their best to trick the customer into thinking they've changed their design philosophy. Nintendo keeps on making quirky stuff like Pikmin, along with a sprinkling of uber-cool games like Metroid and F-Zero, with ED and third parties cranking out the M-rated games that gamers so adore, and the Big N has it locked. Totally. Nintendo doesn't need to change its style; they just need other developers to fill in the gaps.
On the matter of sports games...Madden is a necessity. Everything else pales in comparison. Everything (well, unless you're talking about Japan, in which case Winning Eleven would be the best bet). Get Madden online, as both the PS3 and Xbox2 versions will be, and launch before those consoles, and you've got a very nice share of the market.
In conclusion, this is Nintendo's ideal lineup.
-Too Human (becomes more likely by the day)
-RPG (anything by Square will be 10x more effective)
-original Nintendo game (I know this is coming)
-RE5 (RE4 sales will dictate whether this game is multi-platform or not)
-Soul Calibur 3/Tekken 5/Virtua Fighter 5/SOMETHING (Nintendo's getting comfy with Namco...I wouldn't be surprised if they nabbed Tekken)
-Madden NFL 2006 (pivotal)
-Racer...? (I'm not positive about this one...what's Ninty gonna get to compete with Gran Turismo 5?)
-Wave Race (good tech demo)
-Rogue Squadron 4/Pilotwings (better tech demo)
Follow this up with an x-mas lineup of:
-Pokemon RPG (doesn't matter whether it's online...it'll sell)
-Mario platformer
-Pikmin 3
-AC 2
-whatever the hell else Nintendo wants
Nintendo's hugest advantatge over the competion is the fact that they can actually make games. When you've got a developer powerhouse coupled with a slew of great 2nd and 3rd party stuff, you're going to outclass the competion by a mile. The PS3's probably already won, but I think Nintendo could easily steal back some market share and completely stomp the Xbox 2.
Post by: Cell on August 14, 2003, 07:32:58 PM
Then there's the matter of content-rich titles like RPGs, specifically those developed by companies close to Nintendo, Too Human being an example. Nintendo's recent comments suggesting they want to develop shorter simpler games really puts me off. It scares me into thinking they may want to keep 60+ hour games like those found in the RPG genre out of their launch line-up. Their logic is lengthy games like those are not only expensive to produce but while a consumer is spending time playing those games, they're not out buying as many of the other shorter-play-time-games they might otherwise purchase in that time. Too Human's been in development forever and the standing rumor is it's going to be there for launch in the next-gen Nintendo machine, I just hope the recent rational they've expressed doesn't throw a wrench into those prospects. Yes, it's a paranoid consideration but one nonetheless. One of many I have in relation to those recent comments, but that's really off topic heh.
Anyway, Nomad's list is essentially my ideal as far as a basic list is concerned, I'd only begrudgingly subtract Madden since I personally feel the need to generate a list in my mind that comes as close as possible to becoming a reality, given what we know today. But of course I do see Madden coming to the machine around the same time it shows up on the others, if indeed they release after Nintendo's machine in most markets, Nintendo should make sure of it. So, if Winning Eleven is the game that gets released to all markets and Madden isn't present right at launch, is there another sports title that may help bolster that? And what kind of 'serious' racer (not an f-zero, mario kart, or wave race-type) would be best? F1? Rally? I'd put my money on getting Namco to turn their Ridge Racer franchise into a legitimate Gran Turismo killer for a launch exclusive, nothing like hot japanese women for mascots to herald an image change heh. Oh, and one last thing, I assume 'online-at-launch' or bust, I won't sniff Nintendo's way if they don't offer me online gaming in some form from the get-go. If they falter in that regard, they better be ready to make up for it in some way I can't even presently imagine, otherwise they'll hand the competition (who >are< aggressive about online play) an easy opportunity to stomp them at the very start.
Post by: ThePerm on August 14, 2003, 08:21:37 PM
Post by: Zman on August 16, 2003, 11:34:44 AM
Post by: Pale on August 16, 2003, 12:01:21 PM
That's all they would need in my book anyway. =P
Post by: Zman on August 16, 2003, 04:18:03 PM
Post by: Internet Nomad on August 16, 2003, 07:24:09 PM
Post by: Cell on August 16, 2003, 09:32:46 PM
I don't think it would be positive, great game or not.
Post by: Pale on August 16, 2003, 11:11:32 PM
I'm 22, and I want my Pokemon.
=P
Post by: Hostile Creation on August 17, 2003, 10:53:49 AM
Post by: Cell on August 17, 2003, 09:13:04 PM
Post by: Pale on August 17, 2003, 09:49:26 PM
Post by: vroenis on August 17, 2003, 11:46:01 PM
i like it already.
nah, i'm not so into mmorpgs, but cell earlier said nintendo should keep away from franchises at launch - i think that's a good idea.
has anyone else noticed the profound lack of original games on the cube? and some of the best games have been franchises - metroid, zelda, mario etc.
nintendo need their own rpg like final fantasy or action game like metal gear - something with great gameplay and an awesome storyline that will keep the buzz around the console for long periods of time.
Post by: Cell on August 18, 2003, 01:36:22 AM
I say that even though I fully believe in the viability of an all gaming platform. No one is saying Nintendo is poised to take dominance in the market again or at least in the next-generation, because it's fairly clear that's not what they're about at this point, and it would be foolish for them to start throwing around cash to that end, just to bite off more than they could chew. But if Nintendo ends up with an even smaller install-base next generation, or even the same relatively speaking.. something they obviously would not want... why would you then turn around and do things to exacerbate that possible circumstance as a company? Or why would you fail to do the things that are conceivably within your financial/logistical limits to prevent or reverse it? You wouldn't, you'd do everything in your power to pull back on that proverbial stick and reclaim not just marketshare but mindshare above all else, so that when you tell your investors of your sales expectations, you actually meet them instead of missing them by a large and largely frowned-upon margin. Nothing about Nintendo's basic policies or philosophies should necessarily hold them back from achieving an extraordinarily solid #2 position which they today lack but could have easily attained. They could've then leveraged that in the generation after to even more profitable ends. The idea that they should continue a strategy that's being wrecked by laws of diminishing returns as evidenced by Gamecubes performance woes, is ludicrous.
Then there's how they keep talking about broadening their audience, having broader appeal, making games easier to pick up. I'm sorry, that does not sound like a company that desires to be relegated into a wholely niche market. That sounds like a company that wants to reinvigorate the market, bring in fresh blood and more of it than the other guys, expand the market in their own way and not necessarily by hopping on some consumer electronics or personal computing trend. A loyal established audience is not something you simply herd people into, you build upon it and gradually that foundation strengthens. To say that, they should keep on making and marketing purpley consoles with purse-like form factor, is simply ridiculous. A cool toy is a cool toy is a cool toy, Gameboy still retains a lot of that element in the eyes of the mainstream (SP helped that immensely), and Gamecube hardly had any to begin with as far as I'm concerned. That Nintendo should favor making something come off more silly than cool just cus their 'hardcore' fans wouldn't mind it or would blindly accept it or whatever the reason, is bs. It's also bs to continue that miserable plan of action on the basis that 'the others' would just find something else to ridicule, that's far too childish logic on which to drive business decisions, even if it is in a market involving children. The only ones who would do such a thing are the blind 'hardcore' on the other side of the fence anyway, they're the minority, the true masses would not react that way in face of a generally appealing >and< quality product that's competitive.
Plenty of the 'hardcore' Nintendo fans rabidly defend purple as a great choice for the consoles debut, but that still doesn't change the fact black and even more so platinum marketed many times better and exhibited far superior yield ratios. That's money in their pocket, with nothing but a tweak to what they originally set out to do. Was it an affront to the hardcore? No, their appeal to their most loyal fan-base doesn't faulter, only strengthens in the end. That's really the uber point right there, there is tons Nintendo can do to carve out a sizeable market from themselves, larger than what they currently have, and still more than satisfy their 'hardcore' following. Why wouldn't I want to see the company that provides me specific games I love succeed to their clearly perceivable potential? That just means more money for them, probably more games for me, and probably better games to boot. There is nothing no where that says broader appeal equates to screwing over your fan-base, unless they're elitest bastards who don't want their neighbor to have or enjoy their toy for no real reason.
Finally returning to the subject of the thread, sort of... is it really so hard to wait 2 months out from launch for a Pokemon title? Is it really so difficult to see the benefit to marketing in that small delay and the fundamental justifications behind it? You'd have plenty of other titles Nintendo is known for released prior under this proposed approach. I'd personally want more people hooked in by the time a popular/quality albeit kid friendly title rolls around, just to have more people to perhaps talk about it with, more people to play with or against, or just have the facilitation of dragging those uninitiated into playing since they already have the machine. This specific approach me and some others have suggested may not be necessarily what does the job, it's just a suggestion based on current information, but the reasoning behind it is sound if not the details of the suggestion itself. The reasoning is the much larger issue at hand. I apologize, but why Nintendo should drop everything they reasonably >could< do, easily by almost all accounts, just to satiate a relatively small number of consumers who perhaps just can't see past their own interests, is beyond me.
Post by: vroenis on August 18, 2003, 05:46:19 PM
they really need to read some of your stuff.
at the moment as you porbably noticed, lan is my biggest whinge - especially when nintendo say things along the lines of bringing people together, increasing installations, and not liking broadband beacuse the players are so far apart.
sigh.
the key here is though - will they listen?
Post by: Cell on August 18, 2003, 06:43:36 PM
Personally, I see connectivity in all its forms being an integral component of future gaming experiences. The more things Nintendo does in that department the more attractive the prospects are for any and all of their games. They don't need to be copying the likes of Microsoft in anything and everything they do in respect to connectivity, there's plenty of room for innovation. If there's one advantage to be said of Nintendo's conservative tendencies it's the benefit of seeing the way in which the competition deals with new products or services first. At the very least, this allows them to learn from the successes and/or failures without incurring too much risk on their own part. It's my hope they have enough 'learned' already that the chances of having some basic on-line features present at the next launch for most titles are much better, and could only improve. But, that's a really optimistic hope, I actually expect far less for fear of disappointment. Unfortunately, to answer your question, I don't think they'll listen to anyone but themselves, so that much doesn't help.
Post by: Pale on August 18, 2003, 09:23:44 PM
Alright to sum up my point. I'm just sick of this doom and gloom. I understand how people are upset with this years e3...it was well... boring. But stop complaining about it now, enjoy the great releases, resign to the fact that nintendo is not gonna be able to pull anything off this gen, and look forward to something over the top next spring. Cause I really think Iwata will come through for us.
Post by: Ocarina Blue on August 19, 2003, 01:16:11 AM
Post by: Nintendo on August 19, 2003, 09:04:18 AM
I wanted to give some brief comments:
I agree with what most of you are saying. But I strongly believe Too Human (a new & "cool" game from AAA dev) and a popular Nintendo franchise (like Mario, Samus or Pokemon) along with a host of popular upgraded quality sports/racing games would make a good launchlist. People want to see their type of favorite game appear, they don't care if there are other types of (to them) unlikeable games on their console, as long as they get their must-have fix. Obviously Nintendo has been too slow with this as I'm still waiting for more 4-player racing games ala Mario Kart, just to name an example, outside the popular RPG genre drought. I mean, I'm no RPG fanatico, but even I can see if they launch with a Final Fantasy title or release one shortly after launch, they will be golden.
This brings up your communication discussion, you're saying you don't see what Nintendo is doing? They want you to connect with other people in real life, not via an anonymous internet connection. That's why I'm so fond of 4-player games, heck I'm even having a gamenight this week with 8 pals, who are all in their 20's.
Lastly, you have to understand that above all Nintendo is a business, they don't want to lose money on online gaming like Sony & Microsoft are losing tons of money right now. Nintendo has been online with the NES, SNES & N64 (64DD) in Japan, and all didn't live up to their expectations. Sure, only in Japan you say, but broadband for lagfree gaming isn't as common as you might think. Only 17% of the internet users in the USA has a broadband connection, the lowest percentage in the world, and 10% of them live/work in/around New York.
But in the end, they are still showing their planning to open the door for new gamers into the world of nintendo. And pave the way for follow ups to please their existing fanbase. I just wished they'd bring over some of those Japanese game commercials next console wars, those people will remember, and what you remember for being funny, cool, cute or slick... that people buy.
Post by: Rhoq on August 19, 2003, 10:36:00 AM
1. Too Human
It would be an awesome launch title, being as though it's one of the most anticipated titles in Nintendo's recent history. I would rather wait another year or two than play it now, just because I know how awesome Silicon Knights can make it.
2. Wave Race 3
A popular launch title for the last 2 systems. It will be an excellent display of the new machine's graphical capabilities. I am a fan of this series, and I expect Nintendo to deliver with this one.
3. Super Smash Bros. 3
Another popular series for the last 2 systems, especially on the GameCube. I think it would be in Nintendo's best interest to have this game ready for launch. I believe it could be a system seller, based on the popularity Melee alone.
4. Anything by Factor5
Let's face it. not too many other 3rd party programing teams know how to unlock the power of Nintendo's consoles better than Factor5 (I would say that Silicon Knights is just as good, but then again they're 2nd party so they'd better be, LOL). I know that anything coming from Factor5 will be amazing. I hope for a Star Wars title, but not necessarily another Rogue Squadron sequel.
5. A WWE Wrestling Game
Wrestling games are usually very successful on any console. It would be smart of Nintendo to make sure they have a WWE licensed game at launch.
6. Soul Calibur 3
Although SCII took a while to get here, every system needs a great fighting game. SC3 could fill that requirement and then some. If we can't get Soul Calibur, Capcom Vs. SNK 3 is looking very good. I would settle for a port of Capcom's latest fighter until Namco can deliver the goods.
7. Burnout 3
Burnout 2 is one of my favorite racers of all-time. Acclaim was in rare form when they ported this to the 'Cube. I know a third installment in this popular series could be awesome on the next system.
8. Super Monkey Ball 4
Since SMB3 will be making it's debut on the 'Cube in the Spring, a next generation incarnation of this cute, but highly addictive series could be just what Nintendo needs to help maintain their family-friendly reputation without resorting to an overkill of Disney inspired crap.
9. Time Splitters 3
TS3 would be a nice choice for the obligatory FPS game as a launch title.
10. Grand Theft Auto
Rockstar's series is more popular than ever right now as fans eagerly await the next installment. With rumors that Rockstar will not be seeking to renew their contract with Sony when it expires in 2004, Nintendo would be very wise to secure exclusive rights to the GTA series. Mario might not want to carjack and shoot prostitutes, but I do.
Post by: KDR_11k on August 19, 2003, 10:42:05 PM
Post by: Nintendo on August 20, 2003, 02:24:09 AM
I know I didn't buy an Xbox because it's only must-have title at launch was a FPS.
Post by: Cell on August 20, 2003, 05:51:45 AM
Post by: vroenis on August 20, 2003, 06:28:56 AM
you're right about the $50 x-box live idea being bad - true - so along the lines of what i've discussed, they should provide an alternaitive to it.
nintendo - you mentioned being fond of 4 player games and being anxious for a decent racer (because really, xg3 doesn't count at all) - i'm with you all the way. the whole reason i got a cube was because it offered the best 4 player games - as i've mentioned before, my roots are in pc games and any multiplayer either takes ages to set up (lan) or has to be online. the cube really is a unique multiplayer tool and surprisingly enough, in the face of nintendo's ethos, they have almost failed to capitalise on this fact.
um... damn - i just remembered that this is a launch games thread.
...
resident evil mario - finally some blood will be spilt...
Post by: vroenis on August 20, 2003, 06:32:39 AM
oh-well, will toil on.
Post by: KDR_11k on August 20, 2003, 07:31:11 AM
Post by: mjbd on August 23, 2003, 12:28:18 PM
Post by: Whizzy McTinkles on August 24, 2003, 11:31:39 AM
Metroid-The GC version gained a huge amount of respect for its beautiful graphics, gritty atmosphere, and engaging gameplay. Now this is usually a title Nintendo doesn't release for a while, but I think it is a nearly ideal launch game.
F-Zero-In the last two generations its been a title that's taken a few years to appear on their consoles, but I think Nintendo should once again use this game as a launch title (IIRC it was near launch on the SNES and caused a huge stir)
Rogue Leader derivative-Developed by Factor 5 of course, a Star Wars space shooter based on the expanded universe would be a fan's dream, Rogue Leader to this day is one of the most beautiful games on any console due to Factor 5's incredible coding skills and the naturally beautiful art design that surrounds the Star Wars universe.
Now, Metroid will serve as the AAA gameplay experience, and the other two, though excellent titles, will more serve to help mend Nintendo's image while still being good games, and of course they'll showcase the amazing graphics of the N5. I kept it to three titles because, no matter how many they release, there are simply too many good options for launch titles, but these three, in my opinion, after a lot of thought, are ideal candidates for a launch, and if they weren't at least strongly considered by Nintendo, I would be very disappointed.
Post by: Pale on August 31, 2003, 07:19:48 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 31, 2003, 07:26:54 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on August 31, 2003, 08:34:55 AM
Post by: mattcube on August 31, 2003, 05:16:36 PM
I think launch games should be like so: Have Nintendo create new franchises for launch, but use franchises form 2nd and 3rd party to get hype. So I'd mae a launch ist like this:
Completely original Nintendo creation that's rated T at the least.
Too Human
Resident Evil 5
Pilot Wings (Online)
Ridge Racer (7?) (online)
Realistic Zelda
Final Fantasy 13 (Exclusively for N5)
Grand Theft Auto 4
Wave Race 3 (online)
An EA BIG game, and a wie array of sport titles.
Virtua Fighter 5
Sonic Adventure 3
That gives mature, pre-teens, and children all something to look forward to. Plus you've now thrown in some big franchises into the launch, without sacrificing franchises to be released later. Through out the next year Nintendo should ressurect all its old franchises like Kid Icarus, Earthbound, Ice Climber's, etc. 3rd parties should handle filler games and sports titles, and second parties should handle online games and amazing graphics. Then the year afte that, Nintendo should give gamers Mario, Pikmin, F-Zero, etc.
Post by: Mushroom Kingdom on September 16, 2003, 11:23:45 PM
I agree with mattcube (above) Nintendo needs MUCH better marketing for the N5... they also need 2 try and lose their kiddy image, i know that there is mature games but during game arguments at school, my best friend, a X-Box fan keeps telling me the gameCube is kiddy and every1 always agrees with P*sses me off. Anyway back on topic, Some good colors not Purple, Platinum, Black, Gold would be cool, and like the N64 Clear Orange, Green, Blue and Purple. Online capability would be real cool aswell!
Games List:
~ Super Smash Bros. Melee 3 (or 4 if they make 3 on GC) - (online)
~ 1 or 2 more 1st Party Games (Nintendo franchise sells very well and if there is too many 1st party games the 2nd and 3rd party games wont sell very well and they may stop development for N5)
~ Timesplitter 3 (online)
~ A Final Fantasy game
~ Resident Evil 5
~ A New Rogue Squadron (Online deathmatch would be cool)
~ Another Star Wars title (Jedi Knight 4 maybe)
~ Soul Calibur 3
~ Grand Theft Auto 5
~ Super Monkey Ball 3 (Online)
~ A New NFS Game (Online)
~ Some good sports games... eg: NFL, NHL, AFL (Australian Football League: Aussie Rules), FIFA are some good options (Possibly Online - I dont care about sports games myself)
That pretty much sums it up!
Post by: The Omen on September 17, 2003, 09:07:18 PM
But first, i must address this:
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The only time I can for sure say that Mario sold systems was when he offered a completely new game experience ie: Super Mario Bros and Super Mario 64.
Incorrect. Super Mario World sold mucho SNESs/. Super mario sells systems, thats just fact.
People saying to sway from their big names are crazy. Link or Mario at launch is an absolute neccessity. Other than that, i'll say this:
EA sports online
RPG from Namco or Square/enix
RE 5?
True Crime 2 (maybe pay for exclusive 6 months)
Half life 2
Timesplitters 3 online
Kid Icarus)if not out already)
NES compilations(like the Konami series-Rush n attack, Contra, Gradius and Castlevania)
And a Zelda or Mario
And the market is Nintendo s.
Post by: CHEN on October 12, 2003, 08:05:01 AM
It ain't going to happen though, at least release Metroid Prime 2 or Super Mario 128 for the next console. Both of those would please me as well.
Post by: KDR_11k on October 12, 2003, 08:34:08 AM
Post by: Berny on October 12, 2003, 05:24:39 PM
Post by: ExtremeGcube on October 30, 2003, 05:42:18 AM
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Originally posted by: The OmenPeople saying to sway from their big names are crazy. Link or Mario at launch is an absolute neccessity.
I completely agree. Look at the japanese launch of the gamecube. Many said that it wasnt as good as previous console generations because it lacked the mario title to acompany it. I felt this generations launch was lacking without zelda or mario. Wave Race and Rogue squadron though completely different appeal to similar people in that they are fast paced and require skill in steering and maneuvering. I actually agree with George Harrison when he said that making games simpler is a good idea. The olden days were great when you just picked up a game and played(i.e. Pacman, tetris, bubble bob etc). you didnt worry about the story you just wanted to play a game for a little while. I think thats why SSB:M is so popular. But I digress. A major franchise(historically mario) is necessary at launch. I would then add a racing game and an FPS to come out at launch date. In the month after they can broaden to other categories.
Post by: THE_BLINK_EFFECT on November 20, 2003, 06:35:44 PM
1. super mario game
it would have revoulonary graphic,gameplay something different from super mario sunshine.
2. Street fighter game
3. star wars game (episode 3)
4. FPS game( Quake 3, timsplitters 3,etc.
5. Metroid 3: the beginning
6. real driving- A real driving simulater( like GT3) made by Nintendo. over 1000 cars to chose from...
7. Mario party online
8. Final fantasy game
9. A puzzle Game
10. Legend of Zelda: the unknown Quest.
there u go!
Post by: Mario on November 22, 2003, 06:10:40 PM
2. Exclusive EA game (madden, or a bond game, or any other random cool game)
3. Too Human
4. Pikmin 4
5. Wave Race: You Against the Storm
6. 1080: Adrenaline
7. Mario Tennis
8. Eternal Darkness 2
9. Grand Theft Auto 5
10. The Legend of Zelda: Revenge of Majora (direct Majora's Mask sequel)
11. Mario & Luigi RPG 2
12. Metroid Prime 3
13. Resident Evil Collection (actual remakes of every RE game every released, with "N5" graphics)
14. Mario Basketball
15. NES/SNES/N64 collection (every NES, SNES and N64 game ever released, on the same "disc")
16. Burnout 3
17. Timesplitters 3
18. Diablo 3
19. Starfox Adventures 2
20. Mario Party 7
21. Pokemon RPG (with everything)
22. Animal Crossing 2
23. Mario Kart: Triple Dash
24. Super Wario World
25. Yoshi's Island 2
26. Final Fantasy 15, 16, 17, 18 and 19
27. Metal Gear Solid 4 (with free MGS3: Substance bonus disk if you preorder)
28. Star Wars Episode 3 (the game)
29. Super Smash Bros N
30. Viewtiful Joe 3
31. Soul Calibur 3
32. Super Monkey Ball 3
33. Sonic World
34. Geist 2
35. Pikmin Soccer
36. Donkey Kong (platformer)
37. Max Payne 3
38. SSX5
39. Luigi's Mansion 2
40. NST developed skateboarding game
41. Super Mario Sunshine 2
42. Shenmue 3 (with free bonus disk containing Shenmue 1 and 2 and a documentary if you preorder)
43. Halo 3 (because Nintendo would have already bought out Microsoft by the time N5 launches)
44. F-Zero NGX
45. Skies of Arcadia 2
46. Golden Sun 3
47. N5 Wars
48. Duke Nukem Forever
49. Pacman Battle
50. Nintendo Puzzle Bonanza
*Plus at least 20 new franchises (which i cant name obviously), and at least 10 new games based on franchises that are born in the next few years and become popular.
If N5 doesnt have all those games AT LAUNCH, then Nintendo's unwillingness to compete will force me to not buy their console and abandon my gaming routes forever.
Post by: PIAC on November 22, 2003, 08:41:09 PM
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Originally posted by: THE_BLINK_EFFECT
heres my list
1. super mario game
it would have revoulonary graphic,gameplay something different from super mario sunshine.
2. Street fighter game
3. star wars game (episode 3)
4. FPS game( Quake 3, timsplitters 3,etc.
5. Metroid 3: the beginning
6. real driving- A real driving simulater( like GT3) made by Nintendo. over 1000 cars to chose from...
7. Mario party online
8. Final fantasy game
9. A puzzle Game
10. Legend of Zelda: the unknown Quest.
there u go!
that makes me sick, absolutely sick. god. ugh.
Post by: THE_BLINK_EFFECT on November 22, 2003, 09:46:59 PM
Post by: THE_BLINK_EFFECT on November 22, 2003, 10:09:17 PM
1.Mario party 6 or 7 ( online)
2.Metroid Prime 3
3.Legend of Zelda: The Dragons keep (online)
4.super mario : something
5.pikmin 3 (multiplayer co-op)
6.pilotwings 3000
7.resident evil 5
8.legend of zelda:the ultimite collection(every single Zelda game will be on this disc thanks too the huge capcity of the N5 discs.
9.Pokemon rpg : will feature pokemon from red,gold and ruby versions in full 3d.
10.star wars:rouge leader 2
11.ecco the dolphin 2
12.Turok 4
13.Donkey kong :king kong land
14.luigis themepark: Luigi won a lot of money and built a themepark but ghosts haunt a squeal of luigis mansion.
15.Nintendo Deathmatch
eathmatch game with all Nintendo characters blasting each other away koopa guns!
Post by: PIAC on November 22, 2003, 10:23:16 PM
argh! please blink effect, stop before you embarrass your self even more, alot of those games are allready in existance, and the ones that arn't sound horrible -_-
Post by: manunited4eva22 on November 23, 2003, 05:09:39 AM
Post by: Koopa Troopa on November 23, 2003, 06:52:22 AM
Player 1 - "Hey, Link."
Player 2 - "Oh, hello Link"
Player 3 - "Link! How ya doin?"
Player 4 - "Yo, Link!"
Player 5 - "Link, my man!"
Player 6 - "Link? Is that you?"
Player 7 - "Hey, wanna cyber?"
Players 1-6 proceed to plug Player 7 with Fire Arrows
Post by: THE_BLINK_EFFECT on November 23, 2003, 06:29:26 PM
Post by: Shift Key on November 24, 2003, 01:16:20 AM
10.star wars:rouge leader 2 (aka Rebel Strike)
11.ecco the dolphin 2 (this came out a while ago)
12.Turok 4 (ugh, at least you forgot about this one)
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on November 25, 2003, 09:42:54 AM
A sequel to Mario/Luigi SS saga (the GBA game proves that the Mario label is far from stale, plus it satisfies both the mario launch game and an RPG requirements)
Or a Mario platformer 3D graphics but with stuff from the NES/SNES games you know with fire flowers, feather's or leaves for flight, but make it more open in its world so you don't have to do a linear progression and incorporate new ideas not seen before in platformers. And have an Earthbound game as well.
A pilotwings game done by factor 5*
An SSB:M sequel*
A Viewtiful Joe sequel
Too Human from Silicon Knights
A Game from Retro Studios
a few other 1st/2nd party games
Maybe a Metal gear solid game from Konami
A game from Namco
a game from the other third party developers that recieve dev kits
* games possibly online
Post by: jasonditz on November 28, 2003, 06:23:12 PM
Give me a good Mario game (maybe let him fight Wario instead of Bowser for a change of pace, or maybe a 3D Mario set in the Mario 2 universe), a couple fun multiplayer titles (SSB and maybe a Metroid Universe title with co-op multiplayer) and a solid Star Wars game (maybe set in something other than the original trilogy for a change) and I'd be a happy man.
Nintendo is making money hand over fist with their present strategy, which is more than I can say for Microsoft. Why should they start imitating the also-ran?
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on November 30, 2003, 04:05:07 PM
Super Mario Bros. 6
Pilotwings 3
Super Monkey Ball 3
Pikmin 3
Raven Blade RPG
Punch-Out 3!
Super Smash Bros. 3
Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Redemption
Time Splitters 3
Game Zero
Golden Sun"
Time Splitters 3 will never see the light of day on the N5, for Eidos has pulled its support for it. Not like anyone really cares
We've got Metroid Prime, which is SOOOOOO much better than TS. It's different from other FPS's, as this one isn't just a "shoot anything that flinches" game. And it's better than TS, as I've already said :-PSSB's future isn't too bright, as stated by Kirby's creator (I don't recall his name, yet my SN is his name...think about it) when he stepped down from Hal Labs.
ED definitely isn't done, though, and I never really thought about it, but Golden Sun 3D would be nice. And on to my list!
-_- zzzzzzz
Yeah, basically, I don't care what shows up, as long as there's lots of exclusives and first party titles. Lots. Not just two or three, I want...Five hundred thousand, nine hundred and seventy two point seven five nine three games by Nintendo.
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on December 01, 2003, 02:36:26 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 01, 2003, 02:49:44 AM
QuoteFree Radical isn't working with Eidos anymore, so that's not a problem...And I don't recall Sakurai saying anything like "SSB's future isn't too bright"...He just said that he was "uncertain" about SSB's future...
Originally posted by: kirby_killer_dedede
Time Splitters 3 will never see the light of day on the N5, for Eidos has pulled its support for it. Not like anyone really cares
SSB's future isn't too bright, as stated by Kirby's creator (I don't recall his name, yet my SN is his name...think about it) when he stepped down from Hal Labs.
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on December 01, 2003, 12:25:16 PM
Heh...though I like your answer better, because another SSB would be heaven.
Post by: the whatz that? on December 02, 2003, 05:55:05 AM
Post by: Polemistis on December 16, 2003, 11:51:37 AM
- Half-Life 2 -
It would be excellent title, but ontop of it being a huge hit for the PC, its also coming to the X-Box thus it might be too late to release unless GC owners dont have a good PC to run it, like me lol. And like Rockstar thinking GTA won't sell well on GC because of our all "kiddie players", Valve might sadly think the same. It's probably just left best to be for the PC.
- Eternal Darkness 2/Too Human-
It would be excellent but it won't be launched as one of the N5's first games. I can definatly see Silicon Knights release Too Human instead though.
- Mario 128 -
I don't really know what heck to say about this lol. Because they showed a tech demo of it quite a while back, Nintendo might whip out a new Mario game for the N5 launch that will be Mario 128 or whatever it gets named because so many people are interested about it.
- True Crime 2/3 -
This would be a great launch title for the N5 to compete against Rockstar's GTA games for Sony+Microsoft. It might pursuade more mature players to buy the N5 if there is this and another M rated game released.
- Donkey Kong -
A Donkey Kong game would be good. But im sure most of us don't want another bongo drumming music game, although I obviously haven't played it so can't really judge it yet. But anyway an adventure DK game would be cool, its what lots of people want for a DK game.
- Duke Nukem Forever -
A Duke Nukem game could be one hell of a good M rated game for the N5 launch.
- Final Fantasy -
Whip out an awsome Final Fantasy game for launch to try and win over RPG/FF lovers.
- Need for Speed -
NFS Underground got good reviews that I've seen. A good racing game such as NFS, or maybe an F-Zero, for racing lovers.
- Beyond good and Evil 2 -
OK, this game has been getting really good reviews and if it sells well then why whip out another as one of the N5 launch titles.
- Super Smash Bros. 3 -
SSM is a favorite amoung lots of GC owners. It is also one of the GC greatest hits. It sold well for the N64 and GC. I currently do not see any reason why not to release one.
