Post by: theRPGFreak on July 30, 2003, 08:24:47 PM
Post by: nathan on July 30, 2003, 08:39:53 PM
I dont think nintendo will ever go online simply because of their stubborness to accept the inevitable . . . what the masses want. in this case, I think I can safely say every nintendo gamer wants online games on their fav console. nintendo will never, ever have the upper hand on the video game market if they keep up this marketing strategy. innovation sounds great on paper, but I cannot name one person who likes metroid prime, star fox, or the cel-shaded zelda--aside from the people on the internet--and I cant really name that many that like any of nintendos first party titles. therefore, I hope nintendo actually does NOT go online because they really wont last that long if you think about it.
ok, start flaming me now. thats ok cause im never gonna look at this thread again
Post by: PIAC on July 30, 2003, 08:45:39 PM
1) im a nintendo fan, and i dont really want cube online, i dont not want it online, i just dont really care if it is or isn't
2) i know lots of people who love metroid/zelda
3) i liek pie!
Post by: Mario on July 30, 2003, 08:49:55 PM
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but I cannot name one person who likes metroid prime, star fox, or the cel-shaded zelda--aside from the people on the internet--and I cant really name that many that like any of nintendos first party titles.
Nintendo first part games sell millions and get incredible reviews. You smell...
Post by: PIAC on July 30, 2003, 08:59:57 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 30, 2003, 11:23:36 PM
Post by: DRJ on July 31, 2003, 04:10:10 AM
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but I cannot name one person who likes metroid prime, star fox, or the cel-shaded zelda--aside from the people on the internet--and I cant really name that many that like any of nintendos first party titles.
O my god, what the hell are you smoking. You just named my top two games (MP and WW). Anyone who doesnt know that Nintendo is the best game developer is completely wacked out of their mind. Nintendo may not have the best sales department, or pr, Their consoles may not be the best, but their games are definately top notch.
If you dont like MP or WW it is either because you dont like games without lots of blood and gore, or you just havnt played them, because it only takes a few minutes to get hooked.
Post by: cubedcinder128 on July 31, 2003, 06:58:27 AM
Probably not this generation, though I'm sure Nintendo will have some form of online connectivity for their next system. At least I'm glad Nintendo isn't rushing into this form of gaming like the others are. Because the sad thing is that I still don't have a broadband connection, nor is one offered in my area.
Post by: Round Eye on July 31, 2003, 07:04:27 AM
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Originally posted by: DRJ<br Their consoles may not be the best, but their games are definately top notch.
Why, what is wrong with the GC?
Anyways...
Nintendo will be online early Q4. They cannot be the only console in the next battle with out a working online strategy. And it would make sense to have one up and running on the cube before then just to make sure the kinks are worked out. So that is what they are going to do. I know it, it will happen. Take it to the bank, put it into an envelope for deposit, lick it, close it up, put it in the machine. Get ready to make a withdrawl early Q4.
Post by: BlkPaladin on July 31, 2003, 08:36:39 AM
Post by: misternull on July 31, 2003, 08:45:18 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on July 31, 2003, 09:17:36 AM
Now will Nintendo ever go online? Well since they actually made a modem for the Gamecube I assume they'll do the same with their next console so at the very least we might get one or two third party online games for sure. As for Nintendo themselves we'll have to wait and see. I think that if they ignore it long enough they'll eventually be forced to go with it like when they finally ditched cartridges. I'm hoping that they actually do have something big up their sleeves that will change online gaming as we know it forever. If they don't then they really are too stubborn and everything they've said so far about online gaming amounts to "we don't want to do it so we won't".
Post by: DRJ on July 31, 2003, 10:03:16 AM
Post by: Raijin Z on July 31, 2003, 02:11:04 PM
Aside from that, a Japanese group has gotten Kirby's Air Ride to play at 60fps online.
Post by: Polyethylene on July 31, 2003, 05:30:00 PM
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Originally posted by: Raijin Z
http://cubeonline.gamefarmer.com/
Aside from that, a Japanese group has gotten Kirby's Air Ride to play at 60fps online.
I read that they just have gotten Kirby's Air Ride to play at 3fps online not 60fps.
Post by: Termin8Anakin on July 31, 2003, 07:30:35 PM
Nintendo is making an online system whereby we won't have to pay any fees of any sort, except for buying the game and the modem, so n the end, it is Nintendo AND the gamers that benefit from online gameplay on Nintendo's system (GCN or GC2).
And what if Nintendo DID release online games for Gamecube late this year or early next year? What assurances are there that it will make ANY sort of profit? If MS and Sony don't have that many numbers, then what chance in hell does Nintendo have online with the basically non existent mainstream userbase? Of course there are us hardcore NIntendo lovers, but then again, there aren't many of us at all.
Now I'm not sure about this, but can MS and Sony's next consoles use the existing LIVE and Online services to play online, or will there need to be a whole new infrastructure created just for those consoles?
Nintendo is better off introducing their own Online service right off the bat of the launch of the new console, rather than introducing it so late in the Gamecube's life.
3rd party Games are also another issue for the Gamecube, which is another reason why Nintendo should start online next generation.
Post by: theRPGFreak on July 31, 2003, 07:36:00 PM
Post by: joeamis on July 31, 2003, 07:46:46 PM
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Originally posted by: Termin8Anakin
I don't care if Gamecube goes online or not.
Nintendo is better off introducing their own Online service right off the bat of the launch of the new console, rather than introducing it so late in the Gamecube's life.
3rd party Games are also another issue for the Gamecube, which is another reason why Nintendo should start online next generation.
why are all the australian gamers not interested in online gaming?
what is the deal there with online gaming, does it exist much at all?
you're right about introducing an online campaign for Nintendo right off the bat with NES5, instead of releasing it late in GC life, that would make very good business sense.
on a side note, i read like 3 months ago that gamespy will have gamecube running online by 1st q 2004 at the LATEST, so i expect gamecube online (through gamespy only) around this xmas time.
(don't flame me for calling the next nintendo nes5, as it is now the prototype name being used by industry insiders)
Post by: Termin8Anakin on July 31, 2003, 08:16:17 PM
That's why I'm waiting till Nintendo gives us the free online gaming, then i can truly and unregrettably invest in the modem and have a genuinely good time playing online.
That's just me. I don't know about PIAC, Mario, Infernal and the rest.
But there IS a lot of online gaming here, but only for PC, and even then i don't like PC Online gaming. CS is too dizzying, and i hate RTSs. I don't think XBox Live is even out here yet (i think it's out here in October).
Post by: joeamis on July 31, 2003, 08:28:32 PM
(I haven't played many rts games)
but
I love FF Tactics (rts rpg), Tactics Ogre (rts rpg), starcraft (rts), advance wars (rts)
and since FF Tactics is my fav game of all time, it's a no brainer that FF Tactics Advance is my most beloved release of the year (SEPT 9 I CANT WAITTTTTTT *DROOOOOL*)
lisa simpson: what is the english equivalent of Aggggghhh?... Trancendant!
(simpsons homer food critic episode)
now i understand why you personally aren't into online gaming, with games as much as 99 bucks DAMN!
i take for granted getting top notch games for 20-30 bucks, ps2 broadband adapter for 35, and free pc online gaming i guess, gotta love the USA... p.s. move to the USA
Post by: Termin8Anakin on July 31, 2003, 08:36:13 PM
$99 in Australia is only about $45 in the US.
And I'm talking about ALL new games here cost 99 bucks.
99 bucks american would be like 180 bucks here! And that's how much a damn GBA SP costs!
Post by: Mario on August 01, 2003, 12:01:53 AM
And i want it now.
*twitch*
Post by: PIAC on August 01, 2003, 12:45:13 AM
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I hate the LAN idea! It only works in the arcades and for rich people! Is anyone on this posty going to have another 3 other friends that have the same game, 3 broadband adaptors, and 3 TVs all under the same roof! This is one of the games that I wish that they would just simply put ONLINE.
its not nearly as hard as you make it out to seem, its not like everyone needs a massive HDTV, a small 51 cm tv would do just fine cube + bbadapter = easy as pie to lug aroung, and mario kart will be a huge game for the cube comnunity, most people with a cube will have it, i like the lan idea, i like it alot!
and speaking of online gaming in australia, yeah its pretty big, as big as anywhere else at any rate, its just i personally seperate my cube from my pc so much i dont even think of it being an online thing, i have games for my PC that i play online, TFC/HLDM/Q3RA etc but my cube is for single player and more personal multiplayer games, thats one of 2 problems with online gaming, 1) its too impersonal, sure you can make fun of people that are losing and such, but then it turns into utter noobery which leads to the second problem 2) the annoying idiots that seem to infest every online gaming server everwhere!
i did have more to write, but the lure of the simpsons is too great, hehehe its the who shot mr burns episodes.
men alive! there are... men... alive in here!
*gets gun* ahhhhhh now THERES the inflated sence of self esteem!
Post by: Termin8Anakin on August 01, 2003, 05:33:45 AM
"Who the f**k shot me?" *kid looks around room, and chucks can at killer*
"What the...? Hey pal, it's only a game, bitch!"
"Well don't f**king shoot me!"
"ARRRGH!!"
*both people vent their anger in CS and start to KILL! KILL! KILL!"*
It's wacko, dude.
I never wanna go in there again.
Post by: Termin8Anakin on August 01, 2003, 05:35:48 AM
"Who the f**k shot me?" *kid looks around room, and chucks can at killer*
"What the...? Hey pal, it's only a game, bitch!"
"Well don't f**king shoot me!"
"ARRRGH!!"
*both people vent their anger in CS and start to KILL! KILL! KILL!"*
It's wacko, dude.
I never wanna go in there again.
Post by: oohhboy on August 01, 2003, 06:05:32 AM
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"Well don't f**king shoot me!"
Hehe, I heard that one before, but that was like half thier team. WTF do they expect you to do. Act like a scarecrow?
But yeah it is too impersonal and lag is always a problem. I love LAN but that has it's own disadvantages in terms of the hassle to get everbody togeather etc.
LAN places are cool if you shop around. If I was you when you walked into that shop I would be grinning. Next thing I would be thinking would be "Fresh Meat". The kids can trash talk all they want but keep to yourself and have friends with you that can play well and your set.
Post by: Bartman3010 on August 01, 2003, 07:25:51 AM
Anyway, I want LAN gaming to work. I'm sure this is kinda what Nintendo wanted all along. But I hope tey can have it where you and a friend can duke it out against other people =)
Lets hope that future FPS games like TS2 will get the lan treatment. Or maybe we can hope for Time Splitters Multiplayer for the GCN only =P
Post by: Ryujin on August 01, 2003, 09:51:40 AM
Plus I can always play online there with a super fast internet...
Post by: JSasky on August 01, 2003, 07:01:26 PM
Nintendo
Can you hear me?
Give me online gaming
Give me online gaming now.
Connectivity is not the answer.
Give me a reason to buy that online adapter
Why the hell did they even release that thing?
I fell cheap and used by Nintendo marketing, "sure the GC can go online, just we won't make any games for it." Evil.
Need more beer, bye.
Post by: HiTmaN on August 01, 2003, 08:38:48 PM
Post by: Mario on August 01, 2003, 08:41:07 PM
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I really could careless if the GameCube was online.
So you want GC to go online? Because thats what you said. If you dont really care if GC goes online then you should have said "couldn't". Sorry, this common misconception just really annoys me.
Post by: joeamis on August 02, 2003, 06:49:38 AM
think about it, he could, meaning he does or will
and care less, meaning he doesn't care
but if he says he couldn't care less that means either he doesn't care
Post by: Internet Nomad on August 02, 2003, 11:32:15 AM
If Nintendo saw the long-term success of online gaming, I'm sure they'd take a loss now to hop on the bandwagon. The reality is, though, that no one knows for sure if online is "the future." Despite the constant crowing of the online revolution by gamers on message boards, these peeps make up only a fraction of the whole market. As long as Joe Donut who buys a couple of games a year doesn't give a damn (or doesn't know about) online gaming, it's a waste of money. Until casual gamers are on board, online gaming on consoles is just another minor feature that doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, but does take a large chunk of change out of Sony's and Microsoft's pockets.
On that note...does anyone know if EA's making money off their online games? I think they've got all their sports titles online on the PS2, for free. I'm wondering if this is actually profitable for them.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 02, 2003, 12:37:14 PM
NO.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
