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Title: Kimishima: Online Service Cost 2000 To 3000 Yen Annually
Post by: Shaymin on February 01, 2017, 04:40:40 AM

...now how much would you pay?

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/44067/kimishima-online-service-cost-2000-to-3000-yen-annually

The Nikkei newspaper appears to have nailed down a price range for the Switch's online service.

Nintendo President Tatsumi Kimishima was asked about the online service cost in an interview with Nikkei, and he confirmed the annual cost would be between 2000 and 3000 yen (roughly US$18 - $27).

The online service is so far confirmed to include online multiplayer and one "classic game" (NES or Super Nintendo) rental per month, with the SNES games adding online play. More details are expected before the service launches this fall. Comparable services for the Xbox One and PlayStation systems, including 4-6 free games per month to keep for the life of the subscription, are US$60 a year.

Title: Re: Kimishima: Online Service Cost 2000 To 3000 Yen Annually
Post by: fred13 on February 01, 2017, 01:09:02 PM
$20 is the max I'd pay.
I don't play games online very often so it's hard for me to justify paying for a subscription to be able to play online.
Plus, they also said on Splatoon 2 there's voice chat, but you can only chat with your "Friends" I'm sorry , but I don't have enough friends that play Nintendo games consistantly to make that work at all and if I did, I'd just open a google hangouts with them and chat that way since we're going to have to use our phones anyway.
Title: Re: Kimishima: Online Service Cost 2000 To 3000 Yen Annually
Post by: NWR_insanolord on February 01, 2017, 01:12:16 PM
I can live with $20.
Title: Re: Kimishima: Online Service Cost 2000 To 3000 Yen Annually
Post by: Khushrenada on February 01, 2017, 01:29:00 PM
Quote from: Khushrenáda on February 01, 2017, 01:12:16 PM
I can live with $20.

$20.00?!?!

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/LN6F00FNWvM/maxresdefault.jpg)


But seriously, I think this is sort of confirmation of a theory I had in my head after we began discussing Nintendo charging for online last month. I was disappointed that Nintendo wasn't pursuing the free online strategy they had kept with for 10 years now since I thought it would make a great selling point. But I think it's clear that the online infrastructure they've got is starting to suck into their profits with maintenance. Consider Miiverse and all the pictures and images posted on that which just keeps growing. Then you've got administrators who constantly have to be checking over all the posts created to keep it all family friendly and they need to be paid. It got me thinking that perhaps the charge for online would be low to basically cover the maintenance costs and make a little bit of profit. I think this price range seems to be inline with that thought.
Title: Re: Kimishima: Online Service Cost 2000 To 3000 Yen Annually
Post by: NWR_insanolord on February 01, 2017, 01:31:44 PM
Except they got rid of Miiverse.
Title: Re: Kimishima: Online Service Cost 2000 To 3000 Yen Annually
Post by: Khushrenada on February 01, 2017, 01:39:39 PM
Yeah probably because of ballooning costs and the need to keep policing the users and the content they post.
Title: Re: Kimishima: Online Service Cost 2000 To 3000 Yen Annually
Post by: Luigi Dude on February 01, 2017, 02:11:26 PM
I think a bigger reason for getting rid of Miiverse is because it was basically an echo chamber for the hardcore Nintendo fans that the rest of the world wasn't seeing.  I imagine they want people using other forms of social media with the Switch now so that many non-Nintendo fans can see what they're Nintendo friends are talking about and be more likely to create more word of mouth outside of the Nintendo faithful.
Title: Re: Kimishima: Online Service Cost 2000 To 3000 Yen Annually
Post by: Evan_B on February 01, 2017, 02:20:52 PM
Oh, I just posted about this in our other thread. Sorry.

I can live with $20 considering I don't pay for any other subscription services.
Title: Re: Kimishima: Online Service Cost 2000 To 3000 Yen Annually
Post by: Mop it up on February 01, 2017, 02:38:26 PM
It's less than I thought, but I'd still prefer a free option with less features.

Miiverse being (essentially) contained within the system is what I liked about it. I won't use one tied to social media, so I'll miss Miiverse.
Title: Re: Kimishima: Online Service Cost 2000 To 3000 Yen Annually
Post by: nickmitch on February 01, 2017, 02:41:38 PM
Yeah, $20 is good.

I don't get why Nintendo couldn't keep Miiverse and include other social media integration.  Miiverse is a cool, fun Nintendo space.  I don't really post there, but I like to look at communities from time to time.  Though, to be honest, most of what I see are things that trickle their way into Twitter anyway.
Title: Re: Kimishima: Online Service Cost 2000 To 3000 Yen Annually
Post by: Fatty The Hutt on February 01, 2017, 03:29:29 PM
So roughly $3/month cdn. Might be OK. Have to see what they offer.
Title: Re: Kimishima: Online Service Cost 2000 To 3000 Yen Annually
Post by: Kairon on February 01, 2017, 04:30:03 PM
This is pricing for Japan. We'll have to see where it falls in other regions because I think the $20 figure is a little on the optimistic side. I say that $30-40 USD is still in play at this point.
Title: Re: Kimishima: Online Service Cost 2000 To 3000 Yen Annually
Post by: Fatty The Hutt on February 01, 2017, 04:36:26 PM
Quote from: Kairon on February 01, 2017, 04:30:03 PM
This is pricing for Japan. We'll have to see where it falls in other regions because I think the $20 figure is a little on the optimistic side. I say that $30-40 USD is still in play at this point.
Really, though? Is Kimishima so clueless that he is unaware Nintendo watchers all around the world will be quoting him on his pricing estimate? I guess if they come out with a clarification in a day we will know for sure, but the Switch conference was done live for the globe, so I'm thinkin' he knows what effect his pronouncements will have.

Title: Re: Kimishima: Online Service Cost 2000 To 3000 Yen Annually
Post by: Khushrenada on February 01, 2017, 04:47:25 PM
Quote from: maxi on February 01, 2017, 04:36:26 PM
Quote from: Kairon on February 01, 2017, 04:30:03 PM
This is pricing for Japan. We'll have to see where it falls in other regions because I think the $20 figure is a little on the optimistic side. I say that $30-40 USD is still in play at this point.
Really, though? Is Kimishima so clueless that he is unaware Nintendo watchers all around the world will be quoting him on his pricing estimate? I guess if they come out with a clarification in a day we will know for sure, but the Switch conference was done live for the globe, so I'm thinkin' he knows what effect his pronouncements will have.



Yeah, considering the Switch Reveal was done globally and so much Nintendo news from Japan gets posted throughout all regions after it is released, I have to think that Kimishima is aware that other regions will be aware of his comments and comparing pricing and offerings.
Title: Re: Kimishima: Online Service Cost 2000 To 3000 Yen Annually
Post by: Evan_B on February 01, 2017, 05:14:12 PM
I will accept 30 dollars, but only if it stops people from arguing about overseas inflation.
Title: Re: Kimishima: Online Service Cost 2000 To 3000 Yen Annually
Post by: Caterkiller on February 01, 2017, 05:27:59 PM
Good! That's pretty reasonable to me. Well just so long as everything works with some modern sensibilities I will bite.


Voice chat in Splatoon only with friends is just fine by me. Most of my friends who I play with online are you guys anyway so it's not like I have to worry about keeping up with real life people. I'm a 30 year old dad now, aint no body got time for real life! And my friends I do play with online never talk anyway. I'm looking at you Mopitup!


I'm sure Call of Duty will let you chat with anyone and everyone but I've learned to cut that horse ship off immediately. I remember being so excited to finally use voice chat with the Wii U and Black Ops 2. That first week was great! People were nice and just shooting the breeze and by week 2 it was just disgusting. I get called n***** and f** enough in Smash bros through text, I certainly don't want to hear it out loud.


Is there any online community with open voice chat that people actually look forward to or is everything just some type of party chat with only friends? I figure its just kids and the socially inept who enjoy all that verbal chaos.
Title: Re: Kimishima: Online Service Cost 2000 To 3000 Yen Annually
Post by: Order.RSS on February 01, 2017, 05:57:42 PM
Considering I, Evan_B, subscribe to many online services already, I cannot at all live with 20$ on a yearly basis!
Title: Re: Kimishima: Online Service Cost 2000 To 3000 Yen Annually
Post by: Soren on February 01, 2017, 07:05:56 PM
With the little that we know, I can't see myself paying more than $25 for Nintendo online.
Title: Re: Kimishima: Online Service Cost 2000 To 3000 Yen Annually
Post by: pokepal148 on February 01, 2017, 07:16:45 PM
It's going to cost $100 a year for online. What a rip off.
Title: Re: Kimishima: Online Service Cost 2000 To 3000 Yen Annually
Post by: Evan_B on February 01, 2017, 07:25:05 PM
Quote from: Evan B on February 01, 2017, 05:57:42 PM
Considering I, Evan_B, subscribe to many online services already, I cannot at all live with 20$ on a yearly basis!
Ay, shut up. No one cares.
Title: Re: Kimishima: Online Service Cost 2000 To 3000 Yen Annually
Post by: ShyGuy on February 01, 2017, 08:37:22 PM
$20 a year isn't bad. The only upside to a paid online service is if companies like EA and Activision are willing to give full online support because they are getting a cut of the money.
Title: Re: Kimishima: Online Service Cost 2000 To 3000 Yen Annually
Post by: Lemonade on February 01, 2017, 10:22:19 PM
Im glad it wont be as expensive as Xbox Live Gold. Im wondering what it will be here in Australia. Im hoping for $30, but Im expecting $40.
Title: Re: Kimishima: Online Service Cost 2000 To 3000 Yen Annually
Post by: Enner on February 02, 2017, 02:25:34 AM
This is better. I mean, the online service is still bad at the moment due to the lack of detailed information, but it's nice to hear that it might not be the full PS+ and XBL Gold price of US$60.
Title: Re: Kimishima: Online Service Cost 2000 To 3000 Yen Annually
Post by: M.K.Ultra on February 02, 2017, 12:50:09 PM
Much less than I was expecting. $20 a year is less than $2 a month.
Title: Re: Kimishima: Online Service Cost 2000 To 3000 Yen Annually
Post by: GK on February 02, 2017, 02:38:59 PM
Not too bad a year... As long as I play something at least once a month I'm getting some value out of paying for it.
Title: Re: Kimishima: Online Service Cost 2000 To 3000 Yen Annually
Post by: SonofMrPeanut on February 03, 2017, 05:16:55 PM
Keep this in mind:  That is the Japanese price.  NoA has made no official comment on pricing for the online services, and there could be an increase for North America.

Remember that PS+ costs what would be $41/year here, but the NA market charges $60/year.  If Nintendo's online in NA costs $40/year, don't be surprised.  At the same time if we see a direct number translation and it does come to anywhere from $20-30, that would also be great.
Title: Re: Kimishima: Online Service Cost 2000 To 3000 Yen Annually
Post by: Mop it up on February 03, 2017, 08:19:12 PM
Quote from: Caterkiller on February 01, 2017, 05:27:59 PM
And my friends I do play with online never talk anyway. I'm looking at you Mopitup!
Um, when have we played games...?
Title: Re: Kimishima: Online Service Cost 2000 To 3000 Yen Annually
Post by: Khushrenada on February 03, 2017, 08:25:31 PM
I think he's playing one with you right now....
Title: Re: Kimishima: Online Service Cost 2000 To 3000 Yen Annually
Post by: Mop it up on February 03, 2017, 08:27:54 PM
Is it still a game if one of the participants doesn't know it's being played?
Title: Re: Kimishima: Online Service Cost 2000 To 3000 Yen Annually
Post by: Khushrenada on February 03, 2017, 08:35:49 PM
According to TV and Wikipedia, the answer is yes. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oblivious_(U.S._game_show))
Title: Re: Kimishima: Online Service Cost 2000 To 3000 Yen Annually
Post by: Mop it up on February 03, 2017, 08:41:39 PM
I'm pretty sure that's called a prank...
Title: Re: Kimishima: Online Service Cost 2000 To 3000 Yen Annually
Post by: Caterkiller on February 06, 2017, 02:44:07 PM
Mario Kart 8, Mop It Up! Mario Kart 8!


Though in all serious that was joke about you not chatting with me as we've only raced together about 4 or 5 times since the game released. And there was only one time I can recall where we were in a private lobby held  by you or your friends where people were chatting. I remember everyone was Mario for some reason but I wasn't in on it and picked DK for the first race. I remember I kept asking why everyone was using Mario and not getting an answer.



Title: Re: Kimishima: Online Service Cost 2000 To 3000 Yen Annually
Post by: Mop it up on February 07, 2017, 06:02:48 PM
Ah, yeah, so many people can pop in and out of Mario Kart that I can't remember them all. I used to host theme races where the idea was to use a character or one of a few characters that matches the theme. In that case, the theme was "Mario Mania" so everyone chose Mario and we played all the tracks with Mario in the name. I guess you didn't get a response since no one knew you, but that's disappointing. That's the downside to not being able to use voice chat, but it is what it is.

I much prefer to play co-op games anyway, though it sounds like you wouldn't want to play those...!