Post by: The Doc on July 26, 2003, 06:53:36 PM
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on July 26, 2003, 10:23:49 PM
1. Ngage costs more than a console and thats a turn off(299 ouch). 2. the telephone on n gage is like usuing the L and R buttons on the classic GBA as a cellphone set so its basically is a taco phone. 3. sure it has alot of features but the battery is reported to have bad life and if you multi task its gonna drain more. 4. Ngage tried to make 3d games on a handheld wich is kinda a bad idea cause GBA is still keeping alive the 2d genre. 5. I looked at some launch titles screenies and their colors look fuzzy and not rich.
Too me too many cons float above all the features of this machine and I find nothing impressive about N gage. I would rather invest that 300 dollars on something else.
Post by: Termin8Anakin on July 27, 2003, 04:44:39 AM
Im wondering how the hell they're gonna make 'true' 3D on portables, like on Sony's PSP or Nintendo next GB. the screens will be too small, and things will look to clunky, fuzzy and your eyes will neen glasses thicker than a brick when they get screwed..
Post by: The Doc on July 27, 2003, 06:01:07 AM
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Post by: AERO on July 28, 2003, 06:18:17 PM
I was curious to see what it looked like, and it has all the buttons you would need to dial a cell phone.
(http://www.onrelease.org/images/n_gage_large.jpg)
Post by: Cap on July 28, 2003, 07:13:59 PM
but for me, i hate cell phones and never listen to the radio. the system really would be of no use to me except for games, and nokia hasnt come close to offering me enough to lay down $300. i'll stick to a dedicated gaming platform like the gba.
Post by: The Doc on July 29, 2003, 09:08:51 AM
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Post by: Djunknown on July 30, 2003, 08:02:00 PM
If Nokia is really serious about N-Gage, then they need something like what Halo did with the XboX: offer a ground breaking game at launch, and you can only get it on that system. Right now, Sonic N is not enough, and I'm not gaga over Lara Croft. Its going to need GOOD exclusives to start gaining ground.
But Nokia is doing some promotions and lots of trash talking. I believe one of their PRs said that Game Boy's for kids, a grown man looks goofy with a GBA on their hands or something to that extent. That new magazine Stuff Gamer is backed by Nokia, giving it some publicity and will do some more trash talking.
Despite its technical marvels, its gonna need some games to complement it. Microsoft is dead serious on staying in the console wars. Is Nokia serious about their Handheld endeavors? If they stay around for at least 2 full years, then maybe, just maybe I'll give them a look. But they also have a phantom opponent (Not that Phantom): The PSP. That sucker might just make N-Gage its &#!$
Post by: Bartman3010 on August 04, 2003, 03:10:39 AM
You have to admit that the bluetooth multiplayer sounds good, but I hear that its banned from airplanes. Penny-Arcade said it, not to mention they absolutely hate the idea of a handheld geared toward 'constipated skateboarders' XD But otherwise, its not a bad idea. Remember those Afterburner guys? PGC said theres a bluetooth game link perhiperal under development from the Afterburner people.
Perhaps if it had free online play, and the ability to chat with other buddies via its phone, I would be intrigued. But this is just another rushed product hoping to gain altitude.
Post by: manunited4eva22 on August 05, 2003, 01:15:14 PM
You might be able to sneak around and play it, but it probablly wouldn't be worth it.
Post by: BlkPaladin on August 11, 2003, 07:45:09 PM
Post by: vudu on August 21, 2003, 12:41:01 PM
they have some movies on several of the launch games.
reading the article i linked to, it makes me wonder how much nokia shelled out to ign to have that hogwash.
the movies made me want to cry almost. super monkey ball looks pretty decent (graphics-wise) but the person controlling the game was either heavily intoxicated or the game is impossible to control (i'm guessing the second choice).
sonic didn't look much better. either the graphics sucked, or you couldn't see where you were going, depending on which resolution you were playing at.
pandemonium just looked dumb. but i've never been a fan of the game. but i was impressed by the graphics, if nothing else.
no movies for tomb raider.
Post by: vudu on August 21, 2003, 12:42:50 PM
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Post by: Fluke Worm on October 09, 2003, 01:13:38 AM
. I need a cell but to pay 300$ for something that's not a good phone OR gamer
....Anyway here's a N-gage bashing link.
"Nokia's N-Gage is a hopeless muddle"
LINK
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 09, 2003, 07:22:24 AM
Sturgeon's Law: 90% of everything is crap
I say the N-Gage fills up a little of that margin
Post by: Infernal Monkey on October 09, 2003, 02:31:45 PM
Not only that, but you NEED TO HAVE A SIM CARD IN THERE TO PLAY THE GAMES. That's quite simply, retarded. So if you decide you want to use another mobile, you'll have to stay on an N-Gage plan just to play your average Puzzle Bobble port (with stuffed up colour glitches).
I don't wish this thing death, I actually do wish Nokia some form of luck. They're going to bloody well need it if their launch games are any indication of what we can expect from this "MATURE 1337 GBA KILLER". -__-
Post by: Ian Sane on October 09, 2003, 02:59:49 PM
Post by: Grey Ninja on October 09, 2003, 04:18:48 PM
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the Xbox from a hardware viewpoint is a pretty well designed system
I beg to differ. I find the PS2 and GameCube both to be engineering marvels, but I find nothing at all remarkable about the Xbox design.
Post by: Fish on October 10, 2003, 05:25:04 AM
1. Super Monkey Ball NGE Nokia 5 4.6 65.2% 65.2%
2. Pandemonium NGE Nokia 6 2.3 56.7% 56.7%
3. SonicN NGE Nokia 6 3.5 50.4% 50.4%
4. Tomb Raider NGE Nokia 6 1.2 45.0% 50.0%
5. Puyo Pop NGE Nokia 6 1.0 47.9% 47.9%
6. Puzzle Bobble VS NGE Nokia 6 4.5 20.3% 20.3%
Gamerankings
Can't understand why anyone would want to buy this. Saw it in the news, and there was massive TWO peoples playing it! And this is Finland, only country where you would think it's even little bit popular. Nokia's PR dude had an good explanation though, It's an adult machice, so everyone who would want to play it was in work. Okay then, I almost thought it was a flop!
Post by: kennyb27 on October 10, 2003, 05:35:39 AM
QuoteHaha. That is one great explanation.
Nokia's PR dude had an good explanation though, It's an adult machice, so everyone who would want to play it was in work.
Post by: adurkee on October 10, 2003, 07:58:32 AM
Post by: Fish on October 10, 2003, 08:13:23 AM
PSP is the only handheld who has the chance to overthrone GBA, N-gage will be like Gamegear or others.
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on October 11, 2003, 01:40:57 PM
" A lot of people are crying about having to remove the battery to change out a game, and while that can be a little cumbersome anyone who can not do it has to be either dense of just plan stupid."
Its very cumbersom and it gets annoying just to swap a game pack and the SIM card prequistic is just rediculous.
"The N-Gage launch titles are anything but great and come to think of it they are medicore at best."
Why would you buy it then since its just ports and less then mediocre.
"The multiplayer is what is going to sell the N-Gage and N-Gage Arena is already more popular then Nokia have hoped it would be."
I dont hear about people raving about Ngage or the Arena already so if Nokia wanted the popularity of this swiss army knife of a handheld of about 1,000 or a bit less Nokia has accomplished this.And the 400+ dollars just to start the system off doesnt help Nokia anyway.
"The casual gamers are going to eat N-Gage up for breakfast and the N-Gage is going to sell well among casual gamers, however on the other hand hardcore gamers are not going to be as willing to even touch the N-Gage."
so your saying a casual gamer will buy a 300 dollar Ngage over a 100 dollar GBA SP or 70 dollar GBA then prove it to me, HC gamers can just invest the 300 dollars on games on other consoles that are better than Ngages.
"believe it or not this device will change the industry. "
A Ngage is like a very bad PS2 or Xbox because , PS2 and Xbox already offer more than just as a videogame console but their also a CD player and DVD player in the same package and Ngage is doing the same thing exept in a slightly different way.
Post by: Djunknown on October 14, 2003, 08:32:58 PM
1) As a gaming system: Right now, it is for a better term 'sucks harder than....[insert lewd reference here]'. Case in Point? I stacked up my Sonic Advance to Sonic N. Sonic N is slooooooowww. That defeats the whole point of a Sonic game. Sound was messed up. Did I mention the chuggy framerate?
I gave Pandemonium a whirl at my local gamestop: interesting graphics, but again, chuggy frame rate. Its got the potential to do some near PS1 stuff, but so far it chugs like a steam train.
The controls weren't too bad, as they were comfortable, and had no problem adjusting. Menus were easy to navigate,and it was easy to load up the game. I also found out that you can multi-task, so if you get a call when chugging away at Sonic N, you could pause with no fear of your progess being erased. Now if Sonic weren't reduced to a snail....
One could say that since these are ports of games that had their native hardware in mind, it could be just a technicality. If Nokia wants to stick around for more than a year, it will have to crank out original content that can doesn't stutter at 20-30 fps.
2) As an all-around cell-phone: Its actually pretty decent. Just don't leave your headset at home, or you'll be known as 'taco head'. It takes calls (duh!), has a decent radio, download ring tones that are high quality (My co-worker told me you can get lyrics to go along with it if you wish.), and can get images. My co-worker showed me everything from surrealist pictures, to NBA logos, to 'naughty' pics. He was unable to show me MP-3's as they required a seperate card that for some reason he was unable to find.
My Verdict: If you want a cell-phone that you don't mind being a little big and want extras, its a decent buy. A gamestop employee has said that doesn't use it for games as much, but it does everything else right. If you were looking for something that will complement your GBA collection, SKIP IT. Save the money, feed your self for a month, feed the homeless, just don't use it on the N-Gage. The Tapwave Zoidiac (or 'High-end Palm that plays high-end games') isn't that far off, maybe it will put up some stiff competition. The PSP is a year off, so use your imagination there.
While it didn't have the strongest launch (Probably the weakest launch of recent gaming history), hopefully some original content will take advantage of its strengths (Wireless gameplay). Other-wise, the Nokia PR who was trash talking during the summer will have to eat their words, and quit his day job. There's my impressions, thanks for reading this far!
P.S for more N-Gage fun, head on over to Gameinformer.com. Mr.Berghammer has put up his little piece called "N-Gage vs a taco." It will have you craving for some taco supremes!
Post by: nitsu niflheim on October 16, 2003, 09:29:32 AM
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Post by: Grey Ninja on October 22, 2003, 07:53:56 PM
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on October 22, 2003, 08:38:34 PM
ZERO.
OH SH
Post by: nolimit19 on October 22, 2003, 09:13:41 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on October 22, 2003, 10:13:31 PM
Grey: That article explains why everybody here was so shocked about the SIM-card requirement...
*= Inferior technology succeeds. When two technologies compete, the inferior will be made the standard. E.g. Windows vs. OS/2 vs. BeOS, x86 vs. Macintosh, IE vs. third-party browsers, Playstation 2 vs. XBox vs. Gamecube, SMTP vs. IMAP, VHS vs. Video2000, etc.
Post by: oohhboy on October 23, 2003, 01:49:42 AM
Post by: nitsu niflheim on October 23, 2003, 03:39:01 AM
Post by: honda_insightful on October 23, 2003, 04:54:25 AM
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On the N-Gage's lukewarm reception by gamers, Nada Usina, general manager of Nokia Entertainment & Media in North and South America, blamed the media. "The games press is a pretty cynical audience," she said. But Usina admitted some aspects of the console would take getting used to: "It is interesting to see the things that are difficult to get over, things like the removal of the battery."
Blame the media? Why don't you try blaming *yourself* for making a poor design?!?!? Man, it must suck to have to be a Nokia apologist.
Source: http://www.gamespot.com/all/news/news_6077184.html
Post by: mouse_clicker on October 23, 2003, 08:21:32 AM
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Post by: KDR_11k on October 23, 2003, 09:42:38 AM
BTW, I like this
Post by: mouse_clicker on October 23, 2003, 09:54:13 AM
Post by: Joey on October 23, 2003, 11:02:58 AM
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on October 28, 2003, 10:49:00 AM
Post by: Mario on October 31, 2003, 01:45:03 PM
Now one pound.
Post by: KDR_11k on November 01, 2003, 04:58:23 AM
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on November 01, 2003, 01:11:21 PM
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Post by: Bill Aurion on November 01, 2003, 05:34:17 PM
The day I get an N-Gage is when Nokia decides to pay me...by the hour ^_^
Post by: Grey Ninja on November 02, 2003, 05:43:28 PM
But really, they should stay the phuck out of the entire console area. They don't belong here. I can overlook their gross mistake on page two where they quoted the GBA as being capable of displaying 32,768 colors simultaneously... (barely), but when they reviewed the playability of the console, they completely lacked any kind of background in the subject, and it showed. The games available for the N-Gage just stink, and the playability of it is virtually nill. It's a crappy phone, and a worse console.
PS: In case you are interested, GBA has a total palette of 32,768 colors, but only 511 can be displayed on screen at any given time. 256 for the background, and 255 for the sprites (one color is reserved for transparency).
Post by: KnowsNothing on November 09, 2003, 02:49:40 PM
It doesn't take long to convince people it sucks. True story.
Post by: manunited4eva22 on November 09, 2003, 04:22:16 PM
Post by: THE_BLINK_EFFECT on November 21, 2003, 12:02:24 AM
Post by: vudu on November 21, 2003, 05:23:47 AM
