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Title: Baten Kaitos = Gamecubes answer to Final Fantasy???
Post by: Loyd Christmas on July 24, 2003, 11:34:43 AM
OMG!! <<check out the three movies for it.

This game is gonna be a Final fantasy killer. The funny thing is i wasn't even interested in it until about a week ago, now its a must have.
Title: Baten Kaitos = Gamecubes answer to Final Fantasy???
Post by: ThePerm on July 24, 2003, 11:38:22 AM
well the answer to final fantasy..isl ike fijnal fantasyt....but in name alone of coarse...this game just got a big buzz though

edit: and yeah those videos are fucking awesome!
Title: RE: Baten Kaitos = Gamecubes answer to Final Fantasy???
Post by: Grey Ninja on July 24, 2003, 11:51:10 AM
Actually, I see it as more of an answer to Xenosaga.
Title: Baten Kaitos = Gamecubes answer to Final Fantasy???
Post by: ThePerm on July 24, 2003, 12:22:07 PM
being the same people and all. Well because the gamecube market isnt flooded by rpgs and because Final Fantasy is more popular the Xenosaga. I would say Loyd Christmas is pretty accurate... if Nintendo really pushed this title on the Cube then it might compete on sales and popularity level against final fantasy. Thats the advantage of a smaller library...it makes some titles seem that much grander.  Xenosaga..though i havnt played may be better then final fantsay...but because final fantasy's name is that much more well known...and the ps2 market is flooded with rpgs...it wont do so well. GCN however...wheres the competition?
Title: RE: Baten Kaitos = Gamecubes answer to Final Fantasy???
Post by: Grey Ninja on July 24, 2003, 12:27:28 PM
What's more grander than Xenosaga?  Certainly not that big pile of trash that has become Final Fantasy.
Title: Baten Kaitos = Gamecubes answer to Final Fantasy???
Post by: ThePerm on July 24, 2003, 01:04:04 PM
well yeah, imagine if xenosaga was on gcn there would be no competition...i hope baten kaitos gets a catchy us name. Certainly if pushed right a lone super caled rpg like xenosaga or BK might push sytems. Similar to how theresa flood of survival horos on ps2 and resident evil moves systems. So many people i know bought a gamecueb for resident evil or are still working to get a gcn and resident evil.
Title: Baten Kaitos = Gamecubes answer to Final Fantasy???
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 24, 2003, 01:24:59 PM
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Originally posted by: Loyd Christmas
OMG!! <<check out the three movies for it.

This game is gonna be a Final fantasy killer. The funny thing is i wasn't even interested in it until about a week ago, now its a must have.


Thank you SOO much!  They're not WM9!

BANZAI!!
Title: Baten Kaitos = Gamecubes answer to Final Fantasy???
Post by: rpglover on July 24, 2003, 04:41:04 PM
i have really high expectations for this game- the movies look great- the art direction is wonderful
and i really dig the battle system for it- its real time with the cards as your commands
i think if nintendo pushes this game well it could help move gc's off the shelves in japan
i think i read that namco is expecting to ship and sell 500,000 copies at least- those are good expectations
lets hope the demand exceeds expectations and helps get more rpgs on the gc
Title: Baten Kaitos = Gamecubes answer to Final Fantasy???
Post by: Hybrid Hunter on July 24, 2003, 09:14:33 PM
I'm excited about this game too!
2 cds too, its going to be so cool!
Nice videos.
Title: RE: Baten Kaitos = Gamecubes answer to Final Fantasy???
Post by: HiTmaN on July 24, 2003, 10:14:04 PM
"This game is gonna be a Final fantasy killer. The funny thing is i wasn't even interested in it until about a week ago, now its a must have."

Blah this game cant even touch Final Fantasy.
Title: RE: Baten Kaitos = Gamecubes answer to Final Fantasy???
Post by: PIAC on July 24, 2003, 10:19:03 PM
the same could be said for other games in Mario's hey day, but now hes nowhere near as popular as he was before, nothing lasts forever. final fantasy's time in the sun will come to the end sooner or later.

i might actually play a final fantasy game one day
Title: RE: Baten Kaitos = Gamecubes answer to Final Fantasy???
Post by: Zelda on July 24, 2003, 10:25:55 PM
I'm sick of these "Gamecube's Final Fantasy" threads. Gamecube already has an answer to Final Fantasy! It's called Skies of Arcadia. Now go play it. ... And get Baten Kaitos too.
Title: RE: Baten Kaitos = Gamecubes answer to Final Fantasy???
Post by: PIAC on July 24, 2003, 10:31:12 PM
not really, because skies of arcadia is a port of a dreamcast game, and it hasnt' sold that well, and i doubt it will become a long running series
Title: RE: Baten Kaitos = Gamecubes answer to Final Fantasy???
Post by: Zelda on July 24, 2003, 10:34:09 PM
Well then, Tales of Symphonia
Title: Baten Kaitos = Gamecubes answer to Final Fantasy???
Post by: Bishman on July 25, 2003, 12:13:32 AM
BK looks good and it is not card based but real time.
Title: Baten Kaitos = Gamecubes answer to Final Fantasy???
Post by: Rellik on July 25, 2003, 01:47:02 AM
I think it's cool that we're getting a high-poly, not super-deformed RPG.  I mean, those are cool, but if EVERYTHING was super-deformed, then it would be kind of boring.  And it looks great... I just wish that the worlds were a little better, they look like they were made with as little polygons as possible.  That and the battle system looks awesome!

I really do think this is GameCube's answer to the newer Final Fantasies.
Title: Baten Kaitos = Gamecubes answer to Final Fantasy???
Post by: Gup on July 25, 2003, 03:46:45 AM
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Originally posted by: Rellik
I really do think this is GameCube's answer to the newer Final Fantasies.

Hopefully it is.  In fact, if it's anywhere near the polish of Final Fantasy, I'll be one happy fella(and if it's localized)
Title: RE: Baten Kaitos = Gamecubes answer to Final Fantasy???
Post by: HiTmaN on July 25, 2003, 12:55:14 PM
PIAC you've never playeed a FF game? If you have a SNES see if you can pick up Final Fantasy 5. If you cant get any of the SNES versions, get 7 its way better then any of the recent ones IMO.
Title: Baten Kaitos = Gamecubes answer to Final Fantasy???
Post by: Ian Sane on July 25, 2003, 12:57:59 PM
"If you have a SNES see if you can pick up Final Fantasy 5."

That's pretty hard to do unless he has a Super Famicom.  Did you mean FF6?
Title: RE: Baten Kaitos = Gamecubes answer to Final Fantasy???
Post by: Grey Ninja on July 25, 2003, 01:33:22 PM
Actually, I didn't like FF5 that much.  I still can't decide whether I like FF4 or FF6 better though.  

The newer Final Fantasies (8 - 11) are just plain crap though.  Something I scraped off my shoe would be more welcome than those.  I do have hope for FF12 though.
Title: RE: Baten Kaitos = Gamecubes answer to Final Fantasy???
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 25, 2003, 01:36:17 PM
Tales of Phantasia on SNES is pretty awesome.
Title: RE: Baten Kaitos = Gamecubes answer to Final Fantasy???
Post by: BlackGriffen on July 25, 2003, 01:56:20 PM
Damnit, where'd the server go?

BG
Title: Baten Kaitos = Gamecubes answer to Final Fantasy???
Post by: Hybrid Hunter on July 25, 2003, 09:18:09 PM
I know eh, i never got to download the videos yet!
Title: Baten Kaitos = Gamecubes answer to Final Fantasy???
Post by: Hemmorrhoid on July 25, 2003, 10:54:00 PM
So this is a turnbased RPG (since you compare it with FF).

Im really more excited about Tales.
Title: RE: Baten Kaitos = Gamecubes answer to Final Fantasy???
Post by: PIAC on July 25, 2003, 11:20:35 PM
well, im doing my best to try track down a copy of chrono trigger, which is just awsome, ill get final fantasy some day, if it was even released in australia -___-
Title: Baten Kaitos = Gamecubes answer to Final Fantasy???
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 26, 2003, 02:48:58 AM
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Originally posted by: BlackGriffen
Damnit, where'd the server go?

BG


I'm damn sure we killed their bandwidth already.
Title: RE:Baten Kaitos = Gamecubes answer to Final Fantasy???
Post by: Gup on July 27, 2003, 05:39:15 PM
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Originally posted by: Grey Ninja
The newer Final Fantasies (8 - 11) are just plain crap though.

I'm surprised you didn't add 7. Are you really Grey Ninja???
Title: RE: Baten Kaitos = Gamecubes answer to Final Fantasy???
Post by: Grey Ninja on July 27, 2003, 07:22:23 PM
I never had a problem with Final Fantasy VII.  It wasn't up to the quality levels of the previous games, and it didn't feel like a Final Fantasy, but it was a very good game by its own right.  I have a problem with treating it like the best game ever, but I think that the game was quite good.  It had an excellent combat system, a good story, and good characters.  That's really all I require from an RPG.
Title: RE:Baten Kaitos = Gamecubes answer to Final Fantasy???
Post by: Atma on July 28, 2003, 12:02:31 AM
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Originally posted by: PIAC
well, im doing my best to try track down a copy of chrono trigger, which is just awsome, ill get final fantasy some day, if it was even released in australia -___-


PAL version of FF3/6? nope, wasn't released here for snes, was released for psx though.

But if you're really lucky, you might be lucky to find a copy of either of them for snes.

I'm lucky, I got my copy of CT for free

*goes back to playing PSO, while waiting for money to buy SoAL*
Title: RE: Baten Kaitos = Gamecubes answer to Final Fantasy???
Post by: PIAC on July 28, 2003, 01:01:44 AM
well that poses a bit of a problem, as i dont have a PS1/2 i have a snes though
Title: RE:Baten Kaitos = Gamecubes answer to Final Fantasy???
Post by: Mario on July 28, 2003, 03:22:13 AM
Wow, apparently this game has been in development for over 2 years. It is scheduled to come out in Japan this December. Sounds promising.
Title: RE:Baten Kaitos = Gamecubes answer to Final Fantasy???
Post by: Atma on July 28, 2003, 03:31:54 AM
Perhaps, but they ain't that expensive (ps1's). ff6 is only 25, while fforigins is 60 (ffanthology is 50).

I doubt you'll find such a rare game just sitting around in a game store (well, that isn't quite true, I found PSO sitting in woolworths, $100).

I'd say check ebay or something, you'll have better luck searching there.
Title: RE: Baten Kaitos = Gamecubes answer to Final Fantasy???
Post by: Grey Ninja on July 28, 2003, 05:20:14 AM
Chrono Trigger PSX is worthless.  It was a VERY poor port.  Get the SNES version at all costs.  Modding your SNES to play games from other regions isn't that difficult I don't think.  At least the NTSC/J -> NTSC/UC isn't that hard.
Title: RE:Baten Kaitos = Gamecubes answer to Final Fantasy???
Post by: Atma on July 28, 2003, 05:43:53 AM
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Originally posted by: Grey Ninja
Chrono Trigger PSX is worthless.  It was a VERY poor port.  Get the SNES version at all costs.  Modding your SNES to play games from other regions isn't that difficult I don't think.  At least the NTSC/J -> NTSC/UC isn't that hard.


The psx version of FF6 isn't the best either, the loading times suck, but the fmv's aren't too bad (and they didn't remove the psycho cyan glitch) and they added in a run function.

In regards to other regions, ntcs > pal snes' are done using a converter, except some games have problems when using them (eg. FF3/6 - stops playing half way through the ending; afaik: 7th Saga - saves, but doesn't hold the save after you turn off (could've just been the cart though)).
Title: RE: Baten Kaitos = Gamecubes answer to Final Fantasy???
Post by: Grey Ninja on July 28, 2003, 06:11:06 AM
Actually, all the SNES games that square released were very poor ports.  They frequently had emulation issues, slowdown, incorrect audio, and horrid load times.  But Chrono Trigger was by far the worst.