Community Forums => I'M BACK => Topic started by: Khushrenada on April 23, 2015, 07:17:34 PM
Title: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: Khushrenada on April 23, 2015, 07:17:34 PM
I guess this might become a thing on these forums after all. Even though I've clearly been and will be the best host ever for this game, other people apparently want to try doing that job as well. So, just like how Mafia games have a thread that is hardly ever used for setting up future Mafia games, I suppose we should have one for Safe Words as well.
In this thread, if you want to throw out suggestions or ideas about future Safe Words games, please do so. If you want to discuss past games without bumping those old game threads for no reason, feel free to use this thread for that purpose. If you want to sign-up to host a Safe Words game, this is especially the place to do so. First come first serve for hosting spots just like the Mafia games. I'll keep this original post and add you in when a request is made.
And don't worry if no one wants to sign up to host. If there is a demand for it, I'll be there to host another game anytime.
Game and Host list
Safe Words 10 - Stratos Safe Words 11 - Lucariofan99 Safe Words 12 -
Title: Re: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: Mop it up on April 27, 2015, 06:37:42 PM
Should I be starting the game on May 4th then? If that's the case, I should probably get a signups thread going soon...
I may not be able to be as swift a host as Khushrenada, but I'll do my best.
Title: Re: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: Silenced on April 27, 2015, 06:42:39 PM
I'll claim the June date. I'll figure out some sort of fun twist.
Title: Re: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: Khushrenada on April 28, 2015, 12:50:58 AM
I'll claim the June date. I'll figure out some sort of fun twist.
Done.
Title: Re: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: ShyGuy on April 28, 2015, 02:20:12 AM
May the 4th be with you!
Title: Re: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: Triforce Hermit on May 25, 2015, 09:48:33 PM
I'm staking a claim in July Safe Words
Title: Re: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: Khushrenada on May 26, 2015, 12:02:57 AM
Done. I'm also going to get back in the hosting game myself so I've grabbed the lucky number 7.
Also, although I've mentioned this game as happening once a month, it might not always work out that way. The games in the past were about 2 - 2.5 weeks long. This one has been about 3.5 weeks. And I always advise having a little downtime between games. So, there could be times where a game crosses into another month or the month listed after the game is just not possible. Please understand.
Title: Re: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: Mop it up on May 26, 2015, 05:34:49 PM
Also, although I've mentioned this game as happening once a month, it might not always work out that way. The games in the past were about 2 - 2.5 weeks long. This one has been about 3.5 weeks.
Not quite correct. This game lasted 21 days which is exactly 3 weeks. Previous games lasted 17 days, 20 days, and 18 days respectively, so this game was at most 4 days longer and at least 1 day longer. If I hadn't messed up with the mass PM at the start, it would have been in line with the average length of those three.
Title: Re: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: Triforce Hermit on August 14, 2015, 10:04:49 AM
Due to the last safe words game taking a while longer (they seem to be increasingly long), I'll push my game back to start at the beginning September. Signs ups will be up a week beforehand. If this conflicts with mafia scheduling, please me know as I don't go in the mafia forum. I might have a prize up, but I'm not making any promises. Too many games coming out later this year.
Title: Re: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: Khushrenada on August 14, 2015, 11:54:16 AM
If you keep your rules simple like I plan to do when I re-host after you then I think you'll help keep the length of the game shorter as well.
Title: Re: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: Khushrenada on December 12, 2015, 12:58:01 AM
Bumping this in preparation of my Safe Words Funhouse take-over and to see if anyone wants to host an upcoming game or if this will still be my show to run.
Title: Re: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: Stratos on December 12, 2015, 12:10:18 PM
Maybe we should get a new sub-board for this game as well?
Title: Re: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: Khushrenada on December 12, 2015, 02:44:01 PM
I'm not sure there's any particular need for that at the moment. Mafia games have new threads created for each day and back when this site was hopping in the back half of the double-0 decade, there was a lot more activity going on so you'd get a bit of conflict with the Mafia threads piling up and pushing down other threads that users were still commenting on. With Safe Words, each game consists of a sign-up thread and then a single game thread. Thus it is pretty contained and not really taking up some valuable first page of a forum space. With the Safe Words Hall Fame links, it will be easy enough to navigate and find past games without creating a new subforum.
If we do create new subforums, my recommendation is still that we create some in General Chat for movies and for TV and then we can start dividing up conversations amongst individual programs instead of jamming it all together in 2 singular threads from which it is terrible to navigate through and find past comments on a movie or show.
Title: Re: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: Stratos on December 12, 2015, 02:49:55 PM
I actually like that idea for movies and TV shows. There are enough different ones that are ongoing that we would benefit from that.
Though I wouldn't mind having a dedicated spot for all of the various games we have played. Just so we can see them all if someone wanted to look them over for ideas on a new one.
Title: Re: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: Khushrenada on March 31, 2016, 10:02:57 PM
You wanna host a Safe Words game?
Here's your chance to grab a spot. Otherwise, I'll just keep hosting them and blowing all you NWR users up over and over.
Title: Re: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: Stratos on April 02, 2016, 09:58:01 PM
I'll host one. Possibly Princess Bride themed, possibly another 'classic' movie. I am open to suggestions. But I don't want to do the next one. I'll go for the #10 spot.
Title: Re: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: Wah on April 03, 2016, 02:30:49 AM
I bags 11
Title: Re: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: Khushrenada on April 03, 2016, 02:57:58 AM
Really?! :o :o :o
Alright. Can't wait to see how these work out. ;D
Title: Re: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: Wah on April 04, 2016, 04:49:27 AM
Maybe Undertale themed to match my Avatar? hmmmm...
Title: Re: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: Wah on April 04, 2016, 04:50:23 AM
Or MR. TOURGUES GUN EXTRANAGANZA!
Title: Re: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: Mop it up on April 04, 2016, 08:51:06 PM
I guess since I won this last one then it's a good time to take a break and host Game 9.
Title: Re: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: Khushrenada on April 04, 2016, 09:15:28 PM
Oh. I see how it is around here. Guess I'll go find a forum that does want me to host games for them. We'll see how much fun you have when I'm not around to host...
Naw. It's fine. I was actually going to post something stating that if someone was going to host the next game, they should step forward this week otherwise I was going to post sign-ups for the next game next week which seemed to be the right time to get the next one going. But now I don't have to do that since Mop it up has come along and taken on that duty. I'll leave it to your discretion for when you want to start sign-ups and how long you want to run them for.
Title: Re: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: Wah on April 07, 2016, 11:04:28 PM
So mops aboutz de new gam?
Title: Re: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: Mop it up on April 10, 2016, 01:48:18 PM
Well hey Khushrenada, I just figured you'd want to play in a game for once!
I guess I should probably start signups soon, but I forgot to post my idea again! I wanted some feedback on the best way to handle it, as well as if it's even a good idea.
My idea isn't too complex, it's just that, instead of choosing a word for yourself, you choose one for another player! The way it works is that you would select from one of the words like normal, but then you would also choose one player who would receive the result of the word. If the word is safe, then the player you chose is safe for that round. If the word is the bomb, the player you chose blows up! An example of a post would be something like "I choose the word example and it will go to Insanolord!" Or you could just put the word and player in the post and leave it as simple as that. With this twist, you will actually try to choose the bomb word instead of avoiding it, since you want the other players to explode!
Of course, each player can be chosen only once per round, so that way everyone is still in danger. Sorry, but everyone doesn't just get to choose Insanolord over and over. You also cannot choose yourself.
Now, here are a couple of things I'm unsure of. The first is, should people be allowed to choose the bomb word selector? Normally, this player is safe unless their bomb word doesn't get picked before it's their turn, so I'm not sure if they should be allowed or not. Secondly, what should happen if no one chooses the bomb and it gets back around to the selector? Should whichever player remains who hasn't been chosen be blown up, or should the selector be exploded regardless if they've already been chosen or not?
Also, I haven't yet thought of a theme that would fit this idea, so I'm open to suggestions.
Thoughts, anyone?
Title: Re: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: Stratos on April 10, 2016, 02:35:55 PM
Bomb selector should not be able to be chosen. Save him for last and the last word picker is forced to send the last word to the bomb selector.
OR you could choose to blow up the word picker with the last word instead of the bomb selector. In this case I would allow someone to pick the bomb selector at anytime.
Title: Re: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: Khushrenada on April 10, 2016, 05:20:25 PM
Hmmm. It's an interesting concept. The one drawback or potential issue I can think of would be collusion. The player who picks the bomb word could then inform someone else what they chose and that person could use that knowledge to eliminate other players and they work together and control the board to get to the end and face a final 2 scenario with each other. You could take away having a person choose the bomb word but I've always liked having that as a safety / trust factor to show that the host isn't just eliminating players on a whim but someone else has knowledge and can confirm that whatever word is the bomb word that round is legitimate whatever the outcome. By removing the player choosing the word, you eliminate that safeguard although I'm sure you'd be truthful about it. This is pretty low stakes stuff to worry about game fixing.
Obviously, you can make a rule that the bomb word selector can not inform anyone but that collusion could still happen. One of the benefits of the current set-up is that it is the bomb word selector's interest to keep their choice hidden otherwise they will be stuck selecting it at the end. One thing that I'm surprised no one has ever tried and I've wanted to do it but haven't really had the chance before is for the bomb word selector to play mind games with those selecting safe words as to what he's chosen. He could say that choice A is safe, choice B is the bomb word and not say anything about choice C. Is that person telling the truth or lying? Would it make a difference or not in what a player selects? I've never made a rule against it because I see no problem with it. For this type of game, I'd say the bomb word chooser has to be silent. The player should still be included in the list of players one could target at anytime. It would just be that if it does get down to that player in the selection rotation, the only thing left would be that player choosing the remaining name still on the board with the only word remaining which would be the bomb word and eliminating them instead of their self.
I know there are players that just like the game as it is now and trying to select a safe word to save themselves. Now they'd have to wait and hope that someone else does it for them or that they can correctly target someone else on their choice. I don't think it changes the game too much but it is nice to know that currently, when you've made your selection, you know your result pretty soon as to whether you keep going or lose. Now, a player might select first but have to keep waiting all round to see whether they are safe. Yet, that might mean players check in more regularly because of this and could keep the tension higher. I'd be willing to give it a shot even though I do like current format as well. Never know what you might get with a bit of experimentation.
Title: Re: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: Mop it up on April 11, 2016, 05:43:18 PM
The one drawback or potential issue I can think of would be collusion. The player who picks the bomb word could then inform someone else what they chose and that person could use that knowledge to eliminate other players and they work together and control the board to get to the end and face a final 2 scenario with each other.
I didn't even consider that people might try that. I guess I put too much faith in people... probably why I was never very good at Mafia...
I think one thing to further help that not happen would be to not add the standings of this game into the overall rankings. That way, there won't even be meaningless points on the line, making absolutely no reason to try to help anyone win.
It would just be that if it does get down to that player in the selection rotation, the only thing left would be that player choosing the remaining name still on the board with the only word remaining which would be the bomb word and eliminating them instead of their self.
And you don't think said player would be upset to be forced to take the bomb when they weren't the one who got to choose the bomb? That's what I was worried about with doing it that way, but it may still be the best way to handle it.
I'm not looking to completely change the game, I just like to add little twists here and there for the sake of variety. I still want to keep the basic idea of the game intact and don't want to make things too complicated or too much to keep track of.
So I take it from what you said that I should move forward with this idea, even with the potential for abuse? I guess we won't know if it'll work until we try but I think at least most people will follow the rules.
One thing that I'm surprised no one has ever tried and I've wanted to do it but haven't really had the chance before is for the bomb word selector to play mind games with those selecting safe words as to what he's chosen.
I've thought about doing things like this, but I rarely get control of the bomb word and I didn't see a good opportunity to try it out.
Title: Re: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: Khushrenada on April 11, 2016, 06:09:15 PM
The one drawback or potential issue I can think of would be collusion. The player who picks the bomb word could then inform someone else what they chose and that person could use that knowledge to eliminate other players and they work together and control the board to get to the end and face a final 2 scenario with each other.
I didn't even consider that people might try that. I guess I put too much faith in people... probably why I was never very good at Mafia...
I think one thing to further help that not happen would be to not add the standings of this game into the overall rankings. That way, there won't even be meaningless points on the line, making absolutely no reason to try to help anyone win.
Knowing what is and isn't allowed in the rules and then thinking of creative new ways to win is the best part of any game. It's just the way I think I guess.
It would just be that if it does get down to that player in the selection rotation, the only thing left would be that player choosing the remaining name still on the board with the only word remaining which would be the bomb word and eliminating them instead of their self.
And you don't think said player would be upset to be forced to take the bomb when they weren't the one who got to choose the bomb? That's what I was worried about with doing it that way, but it may still be the best way to handle it.
I don't think it would be a big issue because that player would have had a chance to target another player with the bomb word before it gets down to that selection. Thus, if a player were to end up in that situation, they still would have had a chance to participate and save themselves.
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So I take it from what you said that I should move forward with this idea, even with the potential for abuse? I guess we won't know if it'll work until we try but I think at least most people will follow the rules.
Yeah, I don't see anyone objecting to it. They had their chance. Strike while the iron is hot.
Title: Re: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: Mop it up on April 11, 2016, 06:17:15 PM
Knowing what is and isn't allowed in the rules and then thinking of creative new ways to win is the best part of any game. It's just the way I think I guess.
So you're saying that this is the way you're going to play my game? Hm, perhaps I should make you host it instead... :P
Title: Re: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: Khushrenada on July 08, 2016, 11:41:39 PM
Yep. Get your rear in gear Stratos! Why are you stalling Safe Words?
Title: Re: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: Stratos on July 09, 2016, 02:33:05 AM
I completely forgot that I signed up to host! So, since Pokepal is launching a new mafia when should I shoot to start this?
Title: Re: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: pokepal148 on July 09, 2016, 03:16:01 AM
It's okay, I think Khushy knows all about failing to commit to forum games he was going for host.
Title: Re: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: Stratos on July 12, 2016, 08:49:19 PM
I'll wait on Khush's lead before doing any startups or anything, though any unique ideas I had before have long escaped my mind, so I'll probably do a rather vanilla game.
Title: Re: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: Khushrenada on July 12, 2016, 08:56:44 PM
No lead to follow. Start up a Safe Words game when your ready. We've had Safe Words/Mafia overlap before and there's been no issue. What I'm doing with Mafia should have no bearing on Safe Words. I consider them separate entities. Nothing wrong with vanilla gameplay either. At this point, I'd say it would be fun just to play any Safe Words game.
Title: Re: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: Khushrenada on July 25, 2016, 02:10:18 PM
I'll wait on Khush's lead before doing any startups or anything, though any unique ideas I had before have long escaped my mind, so I'll probably do a rather vanilla game.
Alright Stratos. Now the pressure's on. You've seen my "lead." Time to get this going. Failure to host a Safe Words game is a banning. Or I just take over and do it. Both terrifying prospects.
Title: Re: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: Mop it up on July 25, 2016, 02:31:27 PM
Somebody better host one soon, or I'm going to explode!
...or I guess not explode, as the case may be.
Title: Re: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: Wah on July 25, 2016, 11:53:24 PM
Yay! more games for my return? awwww you shouldn't have! :-[ ;)
Title: Re: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: Khushrenada on July 31, 2016, 06:03:30 PM
Hey Stratos. Has "life" gotten in the way of hosting your Safe Words game? Do I need to take over for you?
Title: Re: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: Stratos on August 03, 2016, 09:46:59 PM
Yes please. Not going to have the free time I thought I would thanks to work matters.
Title: Re: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: Wah on August 03, 2016, 10:11:18 PM
sure
Title: Re: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: Khushrenada on August 03, 2016, 10:43:46 PM
Lucario, you were next in line to host a Safe Words game. Do you think you'd be ready to handle one now or do you want to wait for the next game as originally scheduled?
Title: Re: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: Wah on August 03, 2016, 10:48:46 PM
I totally forgot about that, since the ban. nah next one as I'm working on the draft for mafia 70th anniversary now.
Title: Re: Future Safe Words Games.
Post by: Khushrenada on August 03, 2016, 11:16:28 PM
