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Title: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Oblivion on August 29, 2014, 11:10:47 AM
I'll stay for the community here, but after this gen I'm done with Nintendo.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Adrock on August 29, 2014, 11:16:17 AM
Well, at least you were kind enough to announce this to everyone. Who wants to take the over/under on Oblivion changing his mind?

After this post, I am ordering a calzone. I'll stay for the community here, but I am done with being hungry.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on August 29, 2014, 11:29:15 AM
I said the same thing last gen, so far I been true to my word. Nintendo has a way of winning you back eventually though.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Oblivion on August 29, 2014, 11:35:32 AM
I said the same thing last gen, so far I been true to my word. Nintendo has a way of winning you back eventually though.

Yeah, that's what I'm worried about. I said the same thing last gen and that went out the window with the 3DS and Wii U. I was hyped up by the hardware and was burned when neither game had anything good for the longest time. Both of them are now collecting dust until Smash Bros. All I keep thinking about is the $1000+ I have spent in the last three years that I completely wasted.

I hope that when they release their next console/handheld, I'm not the first sucker in line like last time.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: BranDonk Kong on August 29, 2014, 11:37:10 AM
Multi-console is the way to go. I'm disappointed with the Wii U after 2 years, but I am not about to get rid of it.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Oblivion on August 29, 2014, 11:39:21 AM
Multi-console is the way to go. I'm disappointed with the Wii U after 2 years, but I am not about to get rid of it.

I won't mind. I've realized that I don't even care about most of Nintendo's IPs. I really only care about Xenoblade and Smash Bros. If I don't jump ship completely, I'll get on the ship closer to the end of its lifetime.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on August 29, 2014, 11:51:38 AM
I am the opposite, I like most of their franchises it is Smash and Mario Kart I am sick to death of. I can't get enough Mario platformers even if I spend most of my time replaying the classics instead of buying the new stuff. Multiconsole has always been the way for me, even back in the NES days I still had a healthy library of Atari carts sitting next to my Mario machine. Had a Genesis and a SNES, had a PS1 and a N64. I tried to go Nintendo only with Game Cube and missed out the entire generation of PS2 games.

Then when Ps3 came along at first I was so wrapped up in Wii, it had me sold on Virtual Console alone, I couldn't afford a PS3 then anyways so I picked my PS3 up four years after I sold my Wii and tried to go PC gamer only, boy is that a myth PC gamers have it better than console gamers what a bunch of lies and bull ****.

If money was not a factor I would own all consoles and play the games I like but I rarely find enough games on Xbox to justify it, I found 3 games that were exclusive to the console that I would buy.
I don't game online ever period so that was never a selling point and I got my PS3 when I did because I gave my Blu Ray player to my aunt for Christmas and needed a new one and they just released Ducktales remastered so I picked up a PS3 basically for a Blu Ray player and that, then my Roku crapped out on me so I also use it for Netflix. Games not so much but only because I have too many retro games keeping me busy. And to bring it back full circle, nobody plays on retro nostalgia like Nintendo so they always get my money in the end.

Sony has just finally been around long enough to start stirring up retro feelings but not quite like Nintendo and the closest thing MS has to retro is DosBox and that's not even their thing. To be fair though I end up buying way more games then I ever play so you could say I am more a video game collector than a true gamer.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Ian Sane on August 29, 2014, 01:23:19 PM
I said that last gen, referring only to consoles, but I'm really just on hiatus.  I don't want the Wii U and don't expect it to gradually turn into something I do want but once next gen rumours are starting I'm going to be damn interested!  Maybe Nintendo will release some last-gen console with a gimmick controller again and I'll still be disinterested or maybe they'll get their act together.  I WANT to like Nintendo because when they're on they're on.  So I can't see myself being finished with them forever, unless they just never bounce back.  They can always win me back.  I want to have a reason to come back.  It's just simply that I can't support who they're doing things right now.  I can't support the Wii U but only specifically the Wii U or other products that would be like it.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 29, 2014, 04:40:41 PM
Wait, I was under the impression that no one here liked Nintendo anymore and you were all just here for the impeccably-managed community.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: ejamer on August 29, 2014, 04:53:39 PM
Why wait? Sell your Wii U when Smash Bros comes out and there is some demand, and make the jump now instead of waiting for next gen. Seriously - the PS4 and XBox One are so new that you haven't missed anything of note. Get the jump over with and then you won't have to wait around and complain about an entire generation of games.


I like my Wii U. It doesn't have a lot of games, but it has a handful of games (either released or yet to come) that I consider "must play" titles. But the console isn't for everyone and there is no reason to suffer through keeping a gaming system you don't like.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Nile Boogie Returns on August 29, 2014, 05:13:01 PM
While I can understand some disappointment with Nintendo, I THINK YOU GUYS ARE NUTS! Like Completely. Until Sony/Microsoft "actually" surpass  Nintendo in content and not "potentially" pass them I'm good. I would like to know if it's your gaming taste or amount of time you have to game that plays into these conclusions.


3DS is a flat out beast, if you have exhausted the amount of quality gaming that that system has to offer, well i commend you on your efforts and I wonder what else you have time for.


As for WiiU, I like it more than others and I have no problem with it's library of games because REALLY GUYS ITS BEEN LIKE THIS SINCE N64, WHEN ARE YOU EXPECTING THIS TO CHANGE?
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Oblivion on August 29, 2014, 05:20:11 PM
In your opinion they haven't surpassed them. In terms of my taste and opinion, at the very least Sony surpassed them a few years ago.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Mop it up on August 29, 2014, 05:26:17 PM
I'm not going to say it as an absolute since I have no idea what system and games will release in the future, but for a while now I've been considering becoming a purely retro player. I'm becoming increasingly disappointed with the industry which started as far back as the PS1, and increased with the PS2/GCN/Xbox, became solidified with the PS3 and Xbox 360 which I plan to never own, and now this generation there's so little left for me. Nintendo was the only company offering products I liked last gen with the Wii and DS, but even they are slipping with Wii U and 3DS.

It isn't a big deal though. Even if I never get another new system, there's been plenty released for systems I have now to satiate me for life. Heck, my backlogue alone could last me at least ten years. I've come to accept this possibility so I'm not really bothered by the increasing number of new announcements I don't like. It's just vidya games.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Nile Boogie Returns on August 29, 2014, 05:42:42 PM
In your opinion they haven't surpassed them. In terms of my taste and opinion, at the very least Sony surpassed them a few years ago.


This is true. Sony over the years has ben able to put together quite the 1st party lineup. My question for you and others is Why do you think Nintendo would be different than in years past? Or is it the realization that they won't be different and its time to move on? I ask because it seemed quite clear when the WiiU was announced that this gen would be an extension of the Wii/DS philosophy. Every other system prior to Wii, Nintendo tried to put out a system with comparable specs while still being inherently "Nintendo." 


I don't know guys, A wise man once told me "expectations is the longest word in the english language"
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Oblivion on August 29, 2014, 05:48:55 PM
You hit the nail right on the head. I should have realized it but like I said earlier I got lured in by the hardware at the time. But this is certainly the final straw for me.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Ian Sane on August 29, 2014, 06:23:52 PM
In your opinion they haven't surpassed them. In terms of my taste and opinion, at the very least Sony surpassed them a few years ago.

This is true. Sony over the years has ben able to put together quite the 1st party lineup. My question for you and others is Why do you think Nintendo would be different than in years past? Or is it the realization that they won't be different and its time to move on? I ask because it seemed quite clear when the WiiU was announced that this gen would be an extension of the Wii/DS philosophy. Every other system prior to Wii, Nintendo tried to put out a system with comparable specs while still being inherently "Nintendo." 

I don't know guys, A wise man once told me "expectations is the longest word in the english language"

The Wii U story is going how I thought it would and that's why I didn't buy it.  I knew it was another Wii and that was not at all what I wanted.

I didn't think Nintendo WOULD be different but they SHOULD be different.  How things were on the N64 is a bad thing.  Nintendo's first party lineup was amazing but the N64's fate regarding third party support was a huge mistake and a massive screw-up on Nintendo's part.  I don't care if that's how things have gone for Nintendo ever since, it's crap and shouldn't be tolerated or defended.  Nintendo fucked up and either doesn't give enough of a **** to shape up or is too incompetent to do so.  There is no excuse for things to be the way they are.  They should have easily bounced back with the Gamecube.  I don't know if they even CAN bounce back now but they don't deserve any slack for over a decade of making easily avoidable mistakes.  Besides when you "please understand" you just give them more justification for maintaining the status quo.  Let them rot in failure for their mistakes and they'll be forced to try to improve.

For a disgruntled Wii U owner I guess "gee, what did you expect?" is a fair thing to say.  But that was me last gen.  I was the sucker getting burned by the Wii.  I'm not going to act like I'm such a smart guy when others could call me a fool for getting the Gamecube at launch after the N64 fiasco.  My desire for Nintendo to do well and bounce back kept me loyal longer than it should have.  For different fans it can take a different amount of time to get fed up.  Nintendo has such loyal fans and it makes it rather sick that they've taken that for granted for multiple console generations.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Adrock on August 29, 2014, 06:26:52 PM
My gaming habits are such that I can stick with Nintendo hardware for a few years while the other consoles build a library I care about, but even then, rushing to buy a Nintendo console at launch is becoming less and less important. I don't regret buying Wii U at launch. I had the money and I got New Super Mario Bros. U and ZombiU on sale. I could have waited if necessary. I go days, sometimes weeks without turning on my consoles. I don't even need them to watch Netflix on my TV anymore. Most days, I only check my 3DS to make sure I earned Play Coins that day. I don't even know why I care. I have a few tickets to earn in the Streetpass games, but I already have all of the hats I want.

Nintendo is the only company that actively matters to me. For all the dumbass things they do, they're still the company that makes the games that I actually care about which subsequently forced me to care about their hardware. I don't need or want a dozen games a year. I can make do with half of that, and sometimes, that's actually too much.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Sarail on August 29, 2014, 08:34:08 PM
I think it's their characters that pull me in. I've owned various Sony consoles through my lifetime, and played many Genesis, Saturn, and Dreamcast games as a kid, but Nintendo's characters are the only ones that truly appeal to me.

Sony, Microsoft, or any other third party that exists don't have characters anywhere near as cool as Fox McCloud...or Captain Falcon. They can try (and they definitely do try), but they always fail at grasping my attention. I mean, c'mon.. Pit! An angel boy who lost his wings, and fights with a bow and arrow that transforms into dual daggers! How awesome is that? :D

Or Jill... a pink-haired pixie rabbit-like humanoid that pilots a drill - and uses it to decimate her enemies! Sony, Microsoft, and the rest of the lot aren't anywhere near that imaginative. That's why I love Nintendo.

And that's why I keep coming back.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Mop it up on August 29, 2014, 09:21:13 PM
Nintendo is the only company that actively matters to me. For all the dumbass things they do, they're still the company that makes the games that I actually care about which subsequently forced me to care about their hardware. I don't need or want a dozen games a year. I can make do with half of that, and sometimes, that's actually too much.
This is about how I feel as well. Since I always wait for deals then the frequency of games released doesn't matter to me, I don't usually get things when they come out anyway.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Shaymin on August 29, 2014, 10:22:51 PM
Well, at least you were kind enough to announce this to everyone. Who wants to take the over/under on Oblivion changing his mind?

What's the line? Six months? Two pricedrops?
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Oblivion on August 29, 2014, 10:29:44 PM
Well, at least you were kind enough to announce this to everyone. Who wants to take the over/under on Oblivion changing his mind?

What's the line? Six months? Two pricedrops?


That it? Hell, I'll take you up on that bet.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: broodwars on August 29, 2014, 10:32:29 PM
Honestly the best policy at this point is to own as many of the consoles as you can while accepting their flaws as they come. Hell, I'm even thinking of picking up an Xbone in a few months, and that's with only 3 games I have any interest in. It's best to cover your bases and have access to everything, if you can. The Wii U's been a total bust in comparison to the other Nintendo consoles and it's clearly DONE after next year, but it's gotten enough games to justify its original purchase in my eyes.  However much Nintendo infuriates me with their cheap hardware, their infuriating refusal to adapt to changes in the marketplace, and their continual obliviousness when it comes to 3rd parties...they still have a place with me. It's not a major place anymore, and it's not one I think about participating in very often, but they still have a place.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Oblivion on August 29, 2014, 10:44:54 PM
Unlike you guys, I'm not a full grown adult with a relatively steady job. That is the WORST policy for me to have. Just owning the three main consoles would cost me $1050 without tax or any additional retail games or online capabilities.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Adrock on August 29, 2014, 10:55:14 PM
Well, I'm an adult with a steady job and I can't advocate that policy. There's way too much overlap between Xbox and Playstation. Pick the one that has the more appealing first party stuff or exclusives. For me, that's always been Sony, and even then I'm sick of both God of War and Uncharted.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on August 30, 2014, 12:06:22 AM
I actually spent more money on video games when I was a teenager with a part time job, when your an adult you don't just have a job you have responsibilities that get in the way.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 30, 2014, 12:29:30 AM
You could always sell your blood and/or organs.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Nile Boogie Returns on August 30, 2014, 02:59:44 AM
If you raise your children to be gamers then you have a "Man on the inside." My oldest boy is all into Zelda and smash and xenoblade. When his birthday, report card or Christmas comes, I make out like a rat on a cruise ship. Now, if I could get the wife to like anime and Kung Fun then...
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: ShyGuy on August 30, 2014, 03:08:16 AM
It's a perfect time to get a PS3 and some cheap games.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: UncleBob on August 30, 2014, 03:42:21 AM
It's a no-win scenario.  When you're a kid, you've got all the free time and none of the money.  When you're an adult, you've got all of the money and none of the free time.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Oblivion on August 30, 2014, 08:05:03 AM
Well, there it is.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: ejamer on August 30, 2014, 10:51:09 AM
It's a perfect time to get a PS3 and some cheap games.


I keep thinking this, but then am surprised at how expensive a PS3 console actually is.  Games are often cheap, but the console itself remains expensive enough that I can never pull the trigger.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: lolmonade on August 30, 2014, 10:56:06 AM
My lessons-learned from this generation so far has been a re-education on why it's better to wait for at least a year prior to jumping into a new console or handheld.  It's always most costly to be an early adopter, whether that be because you miss out on specific bundles (Zelda Wii U bundle), several revisions that you decide to upgrade on (3DS, then 3DS XL), or simply because you pay the highest price for the console while regardless of which one you bought, there's going to be a limited number of games you're interested in.


That said, I find Nintendo consoles to be very complimentary to my PS4, as it provides a lot more color and personality to most of the games coming out on Sony's system right now.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Mop it up on August 31, 2014, 05:39:25 PM
I don't want to buy multiple systems either. I'm in it for the games, so I just view hardware as an unfortunate necessary expensive and it has never been a fun purchase for me. It's been easy to do this and last gen though since Sony's systems after the PS2 don't interest me and no system MS has ever made interested me.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Stogi on September 04, 2014, 10:37:23 PM
Become a two year old gamer like me.

Video games depreciate in value ridiculously fast (unless they're rare). And unless I want to support a studio, I wait until it's in the bargain bin or on craigslist. Very rarely do I feel the need to own a game day one. And extremely rarely do I feel I need to own a console day one. It's simply not economical. I have other things I'd rather spend money on; records, instruments, food, travel, booze, what have you.

So unless you're an extremely avid gamer, relax on the games for a bit and soon you'll realize that new games to you are literally two years old or older.

EDIT:

I should probably add to the topic.

I don't see the lack of quality in Nintendo games. Trudging through a console cycle I can see why some wanted more, but I was always on the outside looking in. And they put out some fantastic games for the Wii. Super Mario Galaxy is my favorite game last generation, hands down. Sure it wasn't as cinematic as some of the games on PS3 and Xbox were, but those games never made me smile from the sheer creativity of it all.

Nintendo systems are like that now and I'm fine with it. I'll own every console they put out eventually if they keep making that single game I need to play. That one game that makes owning their console completely worth it.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: rlse9 on September 04, 2014, 10:44:24 PM
Agree completely.  If you factor in the Shop Your Way rewards points for a couple K-Mart pre-orders, I haven't spent more than $20 for a Wii U game yet and I have what I consider to be a pretty good collection of games.  If you're not concerned about playing online, it makes no difference in playing the game whether it's a day after a game releases or a year after but the price is a big difference.  Assassin's Creed IV went from $60 to being on sale for under $20 in 6 months...
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on September 06, 2014, 02:11:34 AM
Looks like Ian Sane was right all along the generation is over for Wii U.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Khushrenada on September 08, 2014, 12:48:20 PM
After this gen, I'm jumping ship.

Me too!

(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d95/TKush/NWR/Jump_zpsf1cb4267.png)


On to Nintendo's next console.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Khushrenada on September 08, 2014, 12:51:06 PM
Although I probably should have called that ship NEW Wii U 2. I'm slipping.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Mop it up on September 08, 2014, 09:57:47 PM
You sure are. What happened to you, man? You used to be cool. Now, you can't even be bothered to write more than one line.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Shaymin on September 08, 2014, 10:08:31 PM
Long posts are for weenies.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 08, 2014, 10:14:52 PM
If you need a big long post to convey what you're trying to say you probably suck at writing. Now, obviously your first reaction would be to think Khush is terrible, but if you look closer you see he's got his finger on the pulse of these forums.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Khushrenada on September 08, 2014, 11:20:10 PM
You sure are. What happened to you, man? You used to be cool. Now, you can't even be bothered to write more than one line.

Well, I posted a picture so that is like a 1,000 words right there. Not my fault if you skim over the picture and don't read it all.

If you need a big long post to convey what you're trying to say you probably suck at writing. Now, obviously your first reaction would be to think Khush is terrible, but if you look closer you see he's got his finger on the pulse of these forums.

So much for my reading comprehension. I can't tell if this is a compliment, insult or criticism of the whole forum.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Adrock on September 08, 2014, 11:24:40 PM
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d95/TKush/NWR/Jump_zpsf1cb4267.png)
Dem art skillz
(http://i.imgur.com/t0B99Rp.gif)
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 08, 2014, 11:25:39 PM
If you need a big long post to convey what you're trying to say you probably suck at writing. Now, obviously your first reaction would be to think Khush is terrible, but if you look closer you see he's got his finger on the pulse of these forums.

So much for my reading comprehension. I can't tell if this is a compliment, insult or criticism of the whole forum.

Exactly as I intended.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: pokepal148 on September 08, 2014, 11:28:33 PM
And the PS5 and Xbox 8 will look something like this:

(http://i.imgur.com/C0Ojc.jpg)
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Khushrenada on September 08, 2014, 11:43:47 PM
And the PS5 and Xbox 8 will look something like this:

(http://i.imgur.com/C0Ojc.jpg)

Are you referring to the physical size of those systems?
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: rlse9 on September 08, 2014, 11:52:13 PM
So much for my reading comprehension. I can't tell if this is a compliment, insult or criticism of the whole forum.
Yes.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Khushrenada on September 09, 2014, 01:13:39 AM
If you need a big long post to convey what you're trying to say you probably suck at writing. Now, obviously your first reaction would be to think Khush is terrible, but if you look closer you see he's got his finger on the pulse of these forums.

So much for my reading comprehension. I can't tell if this is a compliment, insult or criticism of the whole forum.

Exactly as I intended.

You diabolical madman!
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Nile Boogie Returns on September 09, 2014, 11:27:26 AM
And the PS5 and Xbox 8 will look something like this:

(http://i.imgur.com/C0Ojc.jpg)



So who wins? This is a genius way to discribe 2 completely different same things.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Adrock on September 09, 2014, 11:59:31 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/juieJ2u.jpg)
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Caterkiller on September 28, 2014, 11:19:24 PM
I've pretty much always been happy with my Nintendo purchases. When the scenery and obstacles in Donkey Kong no longer make me smile I'll start to think twice. When I feel like Sakurai could care less about Smash anymore I might take a second look. When I can't use the same exact Pokemon anymore that I have trained for over 10 years I might feel fed up. When Miyamoto knocks out his wife in a elevator then I'll really not buy.

Stories in games are entertaining but I never ever hold them in the same regard as decent book or movie. Realistic and bloody games that use the voices of actual gangsters as some sort marketing hook make me laugh. 20 users online with voice chat would be something if nearly everyone didn't sound like they were reading Youtube comments. I like these things sometimes but I like colorful light hearted things most of the time.

Nintendo still makes Pikmin, Donkey Kong, Pokemon and Smash Bros. As long as the quality keeps up I am happy to stay a board. Now I'd love more 3rd party support and the standard features of the other consoles but that takes a back seat compared to what I am really after.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: EasyCure on September 30, 2014, 10:11:03 AM
Hello Caterkiller, may I take this seat? Looks like we're on the same boat.

I've been a Nintendo only guy ever since I was a kid, not counting the Game Gear that tricked me into thinking it was cooler than a Game Boy because COLOR! or the Sega Saturn my step father purchased because he either had to have the hottest new tech or was trying to win me over, but I hardly played those systems because what I had on my Nintendos was much better.

Yes there are times I've thought "man it sucks that I won't be able to get that game because it's not coming to Nintendo" but the number of times has been dwindling lately. In my soon to be middle-age I'm actually more content that my taste don't stretch too far beyond what Nintendo offers because I just don't have the time to play these games. The holiday season is just around the corner and I STILL haven't finished some Wii U launch games, and by the time the sales start rolling out I know I'll just have to pick up all those games I've missed so far (Pikmin 3, Wind Waker HD, etc) because I can't pass up on those deals. Great, now I'll start 2015 with an even bigger back log of games.

For anyone who honestly feels they need to jump ship, whats stopping you? Are you waiting for Smash to come and 'justify' your Wii U purchase, or is it the new Zelda? I ask because I'm under the impression that just maybe you don't really want to jump ship and you're just expressing frustration. If you're holding on to your Wii U for 1 or 2 games coming down the pipeline then you do have some hope in the system, you're having some fun with it, so why would you really want to jump ship? If you're just sick of waiting in between released, go out and get a new system now, or if you have a ps3/360 now, pick up games you haven't yet played. Go back further if you have to, track down a Gamecube or PS2 game you've never played, or GBA even. I've never played Metroid Fusion, for example, and I'm sure you have some classics you've never tried.

All I know, for me personally, there's not much out there on the current gen systems to warrant a purchase or even thoughts of abandoning nintendo all together, because despite all their flaws, they still put out excellent games. Honestly, there's not even much on PS3/360 that interest me enough to pick one of those up for cheap. Maybe in a few years when I can get the system under $100, I'll check them out, but until then there's plenty games I've been meaning to either finish or purchase for my Nintendo systems across all generations, console and handheld.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Ceric on September 30, 2014, 10:52:27 AM
There was a retweet on my Twitter feed that went:

Gamers:  Why won't you port this WiiU exclusive game to X Platform so I can play it?
Speaker: Why not just buy a WiiU?
Gamers:  Because it has no games.
Speaker: *Face Palm*

Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: EasyCure on September 30, 2014, 11:25:45 AM
That reminds me of something I saw over on reddit; someone posted a screen shot of a tweet from one of the guys behind Bayonetta 2; he replied to some random guy who doesn't work in the industry but swears he knows how the industry works. It basically went like this:

Random tweeter: Hey so are you going to port Bayonetta 2 to other platforms because it won't sell well?
Bayo 2 guy: If it wasn't for Nintendo funding it, the game never would have happened, so its their call.
Random tweeter: But the wii u isn't selling, so no ones going to buy your game. When will you port it?
Bayo 2 guy: You're an idiot.


and proceeded to reply about how it's guaranteed to happen, citing that Rayman game as an example.

Who was it on Nintendos payroll that said gamers are insatiable? Because they are dead on. This guy clearly wants the game, but doesn't want to support it. I can understand the logic of "well I'm not going to buy a brand new system for just one game" but there are tons of people out there who have the same thought process as the ones Ceric and I are talking about. There's clearly interest in exclusives the Wii has to offer, but refuse to buy the system because "there are no games for it" yet own both ps3/360 or ps4/xbox one and when asked "why do you own both" it's never for their multi-platform releases, it's always "for the exclusives."
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: ObbyDent on September 30, 2014, 12:28:04 PM
Or there's me, who is unsatisfied with almost all of their current offerings, who doesn't want to support their idiotic practices. I'm not stupid. I know that there are plenty of fantastic first-party, second-party, and hell, even a few third-party games for the Wii U/3DS. However, most of them don't interest me anymore and I'd rather support a console that is releasing games that I actually enjoy. I'm not trying to be smug or anything. Its just a matter of taste.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Fatty The Hutt on September 30, 2014, 12:47:07 PM
Who was it on Nintendos payroll that said gamers are insatiable? Because they are dead on.
It was none other than Reggie Fils-Aime himself, speaking with Kotaku (http://kotaku.com/5920572/the-trouble-with-the-never-satisfied-gamer). It got a lot of gaming press coverage at the time.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Stogi on September 30, 2014, 01:53:23 PM
Hello Caterkiller, may I take this seat? Looks like we're on the same boat.

This.

I haven't played a handheld since the DSlite and only then for a month since I went back to Sudan to visit my family, which translates into giving everything but my boxers away. Cuz' love.

If you're frustrated with Nintendo for their lack of games or games that you don't enjoy, then by all means find what you do enjoy. That is life, after all.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Ceric on September 30, 2014, 02:09:58 PM
What I heard was don't visit Sudan with anything you want to keep.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Mop it up on September 30, 2014, 03:35:55 PM
I had something I was going to say, but I decided to not post, since NWR has no posts.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Stogi on September 30, 2014, 06:15:06 PM
What I heard was don't visit Sudan with anything you want to keep.

Well that could be for a number of reasons and not just how shady the police are (and they are shady). It could be because your pristine technological **** simply can't handle the climate of Sudan. Sand is bound to get your electronics, in places you first deemed impossible. But for the most part, you're alright. Again cops can be a dick, but most of them are young and new to the whole extortion game, so play it cool and give them a little but not everything.

In my case, I travel with a carry on and two checked bags worth of **** that's not meant for me. Everything from toys and clothes, to shoes and electronics. I go back (or at least try to) every year. I'm like a pack mule. But I enjoy it...Because, you know, love.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: EasyCure on September 30, 2014, 08:26:14 PM
Who was it on Nintendos payroll that said gamers are insatiable? Because they are dead on.
It was none other than Reggie Fils-Aime himself, speaking with Kotaku (http://kotaku.com/5920572/the-trouble-with-the-never-satisfied-gamer). It got a lot of gaming press coverage at the time.

I thought so, but I didn't want to be wrong. It is very true though, and in very different aspects: the example I gave earlier was gamers being insatiable in the way that they want more video games but are unwilling to purchase a new system for it, just assuming that all games deserve to be handed to them on a platter, and then there are guys like me..

Who barely plays video games but keeps buying more anyway. PS4 and Xbox One do nothing for me, and I can wait for Arkham Knight. What am I looking forward to in the video game landscape? I never picked up House of the Dead: Overkill, I'll see if I can nab it for dirt cheap this holiday season. I haven't opened my copy of Pandora's Tower I bought.. a year ago? Now that I'm finally done with Xenoblade, maybe I"ll give that a shot. I'm also thinking of finally doing my Wii to Wii U transfer, and 'hacking' my wii to play imports so I can finally play the copy of Captain Rainbow I bought in Japan back in 2009.  Simply insatiable..

I had something I was going to say, but I decided to not post, since NWR has no posts.

I had something to rebuttal, but I decided not to rebuttal, since NWR has no rebuttals.

Hello Caterkiller, may I take this seat? Looks like we're on the same boat.

This.

Not feeling the new username. Yet..
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Fatty The Hutt on October 01, 2014, 11:42:14 AM
and then there are guys like me..

Who barely plays video games but keeps buying more anyway. PS4 and Xbox One do nothing for me, and I can wait for Arkham Knight. What am I looking forward to in the video game landscape? I never picked up House of the Dead: Overkill, I'll see if I can nab it for dirt cheap this holiday season. I haven't opened my copy of Pandora's Tower I bought.. a year ago? Now that I'm finally done with Xenoblade, maybe I"ll give that a shot. I'm also thinking of finally doing my Wii to Wii U transfer, and 'hacking' my wii to play imports so I can finally play the copy of Captain Rainbow I bought in Japan back in 2009.  Simply insatiable.
This is so close to my own situation and attitude. Welcome, Brother Video Game Enthusiast!
Simply Insatiable!
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Adrock on October 01, 2014, 01:06:27 PM
That's pretty close to my situation as well. I still have Pandora's Tower shrink wrapped. I decided recently to slow down on video game purchases (even during sales) since I keep buying games and not completing them so I have plenty to play. For the rest of the year, I'm only planning on buying Super Smash Bros. for Wii U (I have a bunch of Best Buy Reward Zone points to pay for the 3DS version) and Bayonetta 2. I can probably hold off on Bayonetta 2.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Stogi on October 01, 2014, 07:57:06 PM
Not feeling the new username. Yet..

Literally the first thing that came to mind. It's no DanteBlazin'theAmazingPersonofAfricanPersuasion, that's for sure.

After some thought, I should have gone with something damn near incomprehensible until you google it, like Ntchwaidumela.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Mop it up on October 01, 2014, 08:09:22 PM
I also haven't opened my copy of Pandora's Tower. Maybe we should start a club!
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on October 01, 2014, 10:17:37 PM
IN one thread everyone is bitching there aren't enough games, in this thread everyone has too many games backed up to get around to playing them all. No wonder Nintendo can't market to their fans. If anyone at Nintendo is insane I think we drove them to it.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 01, 2014, 10:26:34 PM
It's almost like different people want different things out of Nintendo.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Fatty The Hutt on October 02, 2014, 12:20:30 PM
It's almost like different people want different things out of Nintendo.
That's not true. ... That's IMPOSSIBLE!!
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Khushrenada on October 02, 2014, 03:13:45 PM
I have an unopened copy of Pandora's Tower also!!! This is truly the place where I belong!
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Mop it up on October 02, 2014, 04:50:12 PM
It's almost like different people want different things out of Nintendo.
Nah, I'm pretty sure it's the exact same person making every post on this forum. And that one person is probably S-U-P-E-R.

Seriously though, I don't understand it when certain people take the word of one or two people's posts as representing the entire forum, or worse, the entire Nintendo fanbase. People should be treated as individuals, not as a group.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 02, 2014, 04:53:26 PM
The fact that there are only like nine regular users on these forums and even then there's basically nothing everyone here agrees on is all the evidence you need for how ludicrous it is to act like there's a solid, unified block of thousands and thousands of Nintendo fans.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Khushrenada on October 02, 2014, 05:14:03 PM
I don't know. We all seem to agree that Pandora's Tower is a game you don't play but just display. Seems like consensus can be reached on important issues like that.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Sarail on October 02, 2014, 08:33:05 PM
I can join this Pandora's Tower parade. Still sealed. On the shelf displaying proudly.

Woe is me.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on October 03, 2014, 01:00:37 AM
its not just this site, check out ANY news article about Nintendo and people say the same things. Notice how I am not people so I don't count in that assessment I am an individual and only my opinion is right you should know that by now.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Soren on October 03, 2014, 02:15:34 PM
Sorry guys. My copy of Pandora's Tower is opened. But if it's any consolation I stopped playing after the first 2 hours so I guess I'm way ahead of you guys.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Ian Sane on October 03, 2014, 02:52:52 PM
I have actually played my copy of Pandora's Tower but not much of it.  The gameplay revolves around time limits and games like that don't fit my gradual style of play.  Plus the "vegetarian forced to eat meat" story is so nauseating that if someone walked in on me while a cutscene is playing I would be less embarrassed if they had caught me looking at porn.

But, hey, it might be worth money someday being such a late Wii release.  Of course a sealed copy isn't worth much if everyone else keeps their's sealed. ;)
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Luigi Dude on October 04, 2014, 12:05:09 AM
Pandora's Tower is a really good game, all you people with a sealed copy should play it.  The combat is fun and the boss fights are great.  Of course when you get to the Light/Dark tower, I'd strongly recommend using a guide so you can beat these towers as quickly as possible since Xseed created a nasty glitch in the North American version that causes the game to freeze randomly when you try to enter those 2 towers.  I ended up having to reset my Wii 10 different times in order to complete those towers since it seemed to freeze ever other time I came back then tried to enter again.

Oh and make sure you get all the exclusive items in the Light/Dark tower as well since the glitch happens 100% of the time during new game +.  So if you didn't get everything in those 2 towers your first playthrough, it's impossible in your second because can't enter the towers on the second playthrough thanks to the glitch.
Title: Re: After this gen, I'm jumping ship.
Post by: Mop it up on October 08, 2014, 03:23:57 PM
But, hey, it might be worth money someday being such a late Wii release.  Of course a sealed copy isn't worth much if everyone else keeps their's sealed. ;)
Hmm, I guess I'll have to go around and open everyone else's copy!