Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: Rafu on June 25, 2003, 10:29:48 AM
Title: Rareware
Post by: Rafu on June 25, 2003, 10:29:48 AM
Ok so rareware isnt working for nintendo nomore?Dang,I was looking forward to Banjo-Kazooie 3 (or wtvr it is).Rare is working for the Xbox now I think. <(*w*)> Why did they stop working for nintendo and do you think they will ever come back to the cube?
Hostile Creation,im sure you'll be the first to reply,as you always do.
Title: RE: Rareware
Post by: Mingesium on June 25, 2003, 10:46:24 AM
they stopped working for nintendo because Microsoft bought them. they are not coming back.
Title: Rareware
Post by: Rafu on June 25, 2003, 10:52:00 AM
NOOOOOO!!! ..........that really sucks rareware made the best games on the 64 like donkey kong,the banjo series,jet force gemini,conkers BFD,you know that really Really REALLY SUX!!!
Title: Rareware
Post by: Round Eye on June 25, 2003, 11:00:51 AM
Its not a big deal, Rare was on a downwards tragectory anyways.
Title: Rareware
Post by: Hostile Creation on June 25, 2003, 01:09:43 PM
Alas. I am the fourth to reply. Sort of. Shameful, nonetheless.
Yeah, Rare's been gone a while. Can't say I miss them (haven't done anything worthwhile since DK, aside from an average Star Fox game), but many people like them, and Nintendo certainly needs support. Too bad you liked them so much, but I hardly noticed they were gone.
Title: Rareware
Post by: Bartman3010 on June 25, 2003, 01:27:29 PM
I liked most of all of Rare's titles on the N64, though Star Fox Adventures disappointed me on length and gameplay, it was kinda cool. I always wanted to play Fox on foot...but not that way. Not to mention the puzzles were VERY generic. I doubt that people have to get around by borrowing Krystal's staff. Now with her gone from Dinosaur Planet, the dinosaurs can no longer get across places without that damned stick. If she did leave it there, they cant carry it.
Gotta love these damn chosen weapon things of saviorness.
Title: Rareware
Post by: mouse_clicker on June 25, 2003, 01:43:57 PM
I personally loved Rare- I'm a huge fan of British humor- but unfortunatly not too many other people agreed and Rare was taking forever to release games that didn't sell well. Nintendo decided not to renew their contract, the Stamper brothers put Rare up for sale, and Microsoft bought them for $175 million, I believe (a hefty price for a developer that wasn't doing too well saleswise).
Title: Rareware
Post by: Hyper-Link on June 25, 2003, 01:44:29 PM
Well I admit Rare did make some great games. But after seeing Star Fox Armada and comparing it with Dinosaur Planet, I got over my sadness.
I think Namco will do great in place of Rare. I know Banjo-Threeie would've been a great game but unfortunatly it is with X-box now
If I could I would post pictures of the game but I either cannot or do not know how.
Title: Rareware
Post by: kennyb27 on June 25, 2003, 02:21:08 PM
I don't even think Banjo-Threeie (call it what you will) was ever officially or unofficially announced to be in development. Besides his cameo in the original Rare trailer for XBox, Banjo has not been mentioned or shown to be in development. It would be a sad day if Microsoft saw this title too "kiddy" for their system because it would be the only reason I would buy an XBox, ever.
Title: Rareware
Post by: Hostile Creation on June 25, 2003, 02:23:17 PM
New, aren't you?
Star Fox 2 (I believe that's the real name) looks very cool indeed. The multiplayer does, at least, and I hope the single player will be as awesome as it can be.
Title: Rareware
Post by: mouse_clicker on June 25, 2003, 02:23:40 PM
If MS deemed Banjo-Threeie too kiddy for the Xbox, they're not very consistent, because Grabbned by the Ghoulies was highlighted at E3 (which looks *horrible*, I'm sorry to say). However, I do think Rare or MS have officially recognized Banjo-Threeie as an XBox title.
Title: Rareware
Post by: Hyper-Link on June 25, 2003, 02:24:00 PM
This link is better
No direct linking to other site's images and media. Tsk, tsk.
The other one was crazy
Title: Rareware
Post by: Hyper-Link on June 25, 2003, 02:29:54 PM
Here's something NONE of you will believe Oh and it's not Star Fox 2. Star Fox 2 would indicate a sequal to Dinosaur Planet. In a way it's more of a sequal to Star Fox 64. It has Air and Tank combat plus on foot combat. The graphics are sweet and the game looks amazing. But here's a familiar character that anyone who has played Dinosaur Planet will know for sure.
No direct linking to other site's images and media. Tsk, tsk.
If your a boy you'll like this pictures(hint)
Title: Rareware
Post by: Hyper-Link on June 25, 2003, 02:37:55 PM
Here's a picture of Fox shooting a ship outside of his cockpit, sounds weird huh?
No direct linking to other site's images and media. Tsk, tsk.
Title: Rareware
Post by: Hostile Creation on June 25, 2003, 02:40:47 PM
IGN has it labelled as Star Fox 2, as do many other game sites. Armada, I believe, was a temporary title.
And Star Fox Adventures 2 would imply a sequel to Star Fox Adventures anyway.
Title: Rareware
Post by: Hyper-Link on June 25, 2003, 02:47:08 PM
Since it's stupid only posting one picture per post. I'll post more than that.
No direct linking to other site's images and media. Tsk, tsk.
Title: Rareware
Post by: Hostile Creation on June 25, 2003, 02:58:04 PM
I just realized. . . you're linking to another website aside from your own, and that's something that could get you banned. And you're doing it a lot. I suggest you stop and run before a mod comes
Title: Rareware
Post by: rpglover on June 25, 2003, 03:11:22 PM
the problem i see with rare now is that the games do not look as good as they have in the past grabbed by ghoulies looks pretty bad- most have agreed to that i was interested in kameo, but a lot of people are saying that it wasnt that much fun to play the conker game is a good one, but one problem- its just the one on the n64 with new games for xbox live personally i would love to see a new jet force gemini game- it was one of my favorite rare titles banjo could be alright- i dont like collect-a-thons too much, but banjo always had good humor to go with the gameplay perfect dark 0 seems to be the most anticipated rare title, but nothing is ever shown of it i dont know how rare will do on the xbox- we shall see
Title: Rareware
Post by: Rafu on June 25, 2003, 03:50:48 PM
Frudge that sucks,the main reason i bought the cube was that rare was working on cube games, not on the 64 anymore,which is all i had.the other reason was because everyone had a cube XD.
Title: RE: Rareware
Post by: Jdub03 on June 25, 2003, 04:30:26 PM
Why did they make PD 0 anime style. Very strange seeing that Xbox is supposed to be a mature system right. Look at all the ridicule WW got over its cel shaded graphics. Has anyone said anything about perfect dark...No...Will they later on in the future...No. Whats up with that.
Title: Rareware
Post by: Hostile Creation on June 25, 2003, 04:48:51 PM
General foolishness. There's nothing wrong with the game being in that style, but if they're going to complain about Wind Waker they should complain about this, too. Or maybe Wind Waker just showed them how good a game like that can be.
Title: Rareware
Post by: WhoDey on June 25, 2003, 05:49:27 PM
I was a huge Rare fan back in the N64 days. Banjo-Kazooie, Banjo-Tooie, Conker, Perfect Dark, 007, Diddy Kong Racing, Jet Force Gemini, Blast Corps, and Donkey Kong 64 are all part of my collection. There was a time I would have put them right up there with Nintendo as far as making entertaining games. When it became evident they were moving to the X-Box I was very disappointed.
However, to be honest, they have yet to show anything since then that has me wishing they were still with Nintendo. I did buy Star Fox Adventures for the Cube, their last Nintendo game. I'd rate it nothing better than average. It had some nice features but I didn't feel they all came together to make the game fun. I have paid attention to what they are doing on X-Box and from what I have read, it hasn't been much. They've only released one game in about the last 3 years (Star Fox) and most of their other projects are away off. Every E3 report I have read said all of their games were disappointing. Perfect Dark is still years away from the way it looks. The others just weren't that fun.
I don't miss Rare nearly as much as I thought I would but that tends to happen when the Cube still has more Rare games out than the X-Box. Maybe I'll be jealous later but I doubt it.
I will be very interested in their GBA games....if they ever release them.
Title: RE: Rareware
Post by: Termin8Anakin on June 25, 2003, 06:23:03 PM
I didn't really buy Cube for Rare. Rare was an incentive, but since they've gone, well, live with it. M$ bought Rare for the main reason of having console-specific games, but also to try and pull fans away from Nintendo, or give Nintendo fans more of a reason to get an Xbox as well. It seems to be working.
I know some (or most?) of us will go "I can resist the tempatation! You will never get me Bill! Hahahaha!", but the truth is, some people think that Rare made Nintendo (the people handing their Gamecubes in for Xboxs). Not really. They got well known for Donkey Kong, so go figure. Nintendo made Rare. Remember how some people would shun Banjo and wait for Donkey Kong 64? I think Banjo was the superior game, but everything they did stemed from DOnkey Kong. Diddy Kong came from Donkey Kong. Banjo came from Diddy Kong. Conker came from Diddy Kong.
IMO, Retro Studios is Rareware 0.5, and Silicon Knights is Rareware Mark II. Unless Nintendo buys Zoonami of course, in which case we have Rareware back again (technically).
Title: Rareware
Post by: HolyPaladin on June 26, 2003, 05:53:20 AM
Rare was good. They done some outstanding works and pulled some nifty rabbits out of hats. I was unhappy to see them leave for Microsoft, but they are still no Nintendo. I must agree that Nintendo made them, though. If they had not been partnered with and working with Nintendo all these years, perhaps instead developing for Sega in years gone by or for Sony, they would likely be nobody of any significance. They got where they are by having worked with the best.
Title: RE: Rareware
Post by: XMasterLinkX on July 05, 2003, 12:24:14 PM
Most of you are wrong... Rareware is off of the Nintendo systems, but what you don't know is that Donkey Kong was Nintendo property not Rareware property... Banjo Kazooie was originally made for Nintendo, and Kameo... Well that was not really made so XBox can have that... But Banjo Kazooie will always be a Nintendo character... You can expect to see a next Banjo series on the Nintendo Cube, or whatever next system they make... Donkey Kong will also make an appearance. Rareware might be on the XBox but Nintendo still own a quarter of Rare, because whenever you have a game that is on a company that was bought out by a company that makes games that were on the original system, you have to have a sequel that was made on the system the first game was made on... Fact of the matter is that Nintendo has rights to most characters on Rare's company, so XBox is going to have to negotiate, with Rare and think of some newer characters, because Nintendo owns DK, and Rare does not.. Oh and by the way, Nintendo did not MAKE Rare, Rare was a company that was made to go to Nintendo. Nintendo partnered with Rare, and that is why they were successful, but Nintendo still has what it takes to become a non Rare system because Nintendo made the games, Rare simply put there name on it and published it. Thank You...
XMasterLinkX(The Real Link)
Title: Rareware
Post by: Grey Ninja on July 05, 2003, 12:36:20 PM
Link, do work on a farm or something? There seems to be a whole lot of manure coming from your keyboard.
Title: Rareware
Post by: Hostile Creation on July 05, 2003, 01:32:27 PM
All Nintendo owns is Donkey Kong, Star Fox, and all the character therein (even the ones that Rare made). I don't know what the heck else you're talking about.
Title: Rareware
Post by: DRJ on July 05, 2003, 04:46:14 PM
So what are you sayingLink, that if a new character is released on a system that system is the only one to get remakes? Rare was a seperate company that Nintendo bought 49% of. They sold them to Microsoft after rare wanted to sell and nintendo didnt want to buy them out completely. Nintendo owns DK and Starfox (and all the other characters on those games). Rareware/microsoft owns everything else. For anyone that thinks that Nintendo owns everything and rare left with nothing, ask yourself why Microsoft would pay 350 million for a development team only. That would be pretty stupid since they could just put together their own team for a lot less.
We will always have DK and Starfox and that is all that matters. We lost some other cool games/characters, but thats just too bad for us.
Title: RE: Rareware
Post by: PIAC on July 05, 2003, 05:28:49 PM
no! we have exclusive perfect dark, banjo AND conker, the fact that there are demos and such available for xbawx is just LIES! listen to xmasterlinkx he knows all!
Title: Rareware
Post by: mouse_clicker on July 05, 2003, 05:42:27 PM
I've had problems with dillusionals still thinking Nintendo owned the rights to many of Rare's games- they're WRONG. True, Nintendo published the titles but Rare owns the rights to them and has taken advantage of those rights. A Conker game, Perfect Dark game, and Banjo game are all in the work for the XBox, among others. Nintendo retained Dionkey Kong and Star Fox since neither were created by Rare. I hope nobody actually believes we'll see Kameo or Banjo or something on the Gamecube because it won't happen.
Title: Rareware
Post by: Greedy8899 on July 06, 2003, 06:40:45 AM
First post here, I normally check this site a couple times aweek and now I felt like posting. Hearing all these people crying that Rare was mad awesome(they were alright), and them mention the games can get annoying. Peeps, you can't control what happens. You just got to let it go and move on. It would be cool if Zoonami would be bought.
By the way, how much is Star Fox 2(Armada?) finished?
Greedy8899
Title: Rareware
Post by: Nephilim on July 06, 2003, 07:52:12 AM
Its no big loose Nintendo are making there own fps, adventure games, horror games, racing games.....well most kind of games thu there first and 2nd party houses Only real game I was looking forward to was KI, But if they do make a new version, im sure they will do a deal again (like KI and KI2 with acclaim) and have a arcade version. Which is no big loose....just pay for a lockin and play it to death for 3hours Also u might have notice Donkey kong country for gba isnt presented by Nintendo like the snes version but just shows both rare and nintendo logos, then shows a Copyright nintendo, game by rare.... Nintendo proberly owns the right to the country series. So I dont think that is a sign that they will be working together soon
Title: Rareware
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 06, 2003, 08:17:53 AM
I am waiting to see who publishes their GBA games. Wouldn't it be something if it were Ninty?
Title: Rareware
Post by: Bartman3010 on July 06, 2003, 08:40:34 AM
THQ had the right to publish the games.
Title: Rareware
Post by: HolyPaladin on July 06, 2003, 08:53:07 AM
I miss Rare. I loved Jet Force Gemini, and Star Fox Adventures wasn't the steamy pile of crap everybody says it is. Killer Instinct crushed the nuts of other fighting games right into oblivion. It is a shame they had to go to Macrosucks.
Title: Rareware
Post by: ThePerm on July 06, 2003, 09:57:45 AM
heres my take of Rare. I was a big Rare fan. Since the NES days. I loved battletoads(rare/tradewest) and i especially loved the Wizards and Warriors(rare/acclaim) series. I never had a super Nintendo so none of thier games hit me, but I did alittle DK emulation right before DK64 came outand i got dkland for gameboy. N64 was the first system i owned and my brother didnt and Rare was awesome Diddy Kong Racing, Banjo Kazooie, Donkey Kong 64, Conkers Bad Fur Day, Goldeneye, Perfect Dark. Ill have to admit though even though i like Donkey Kong 64 i do admit some degradation of quality....people give dk alot of flak for being a collection adventure. Its very true, but i think its humor won out to me and i really like the game. Banjo Tooie...sigh...i started to like that game...but i kept on gettign headaches for some reason while playing it...fast forward to my gamecube days when i went to try it out again...i can see the framerate...and it is slow.....crazy slow. I mean Banjo Kaooie had a nice steady framerate...but BT...no its unplayable. I wanted jet force gemini..i asked for it for christmas..i didnt get it..then i wanted it more...so i rented it and it turns out i didnt like it at all.
Now Starfox is a weird case....its a game thats very well programed..and is somewhat fun...but its frustrating too and gets old quickly. THe games is great but sucks at the same time. I dont know..i think more time was spent making it run great then making it relly great. The level designer had really not made the game great...however it is. A very hard game to rate, but of coarse it shows rare may be on a downward spiral.
Title: Rareware
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 06, 2003, 02:47:42 PM
It just shows that all the real talent at Rare has left the company.
SFA's biggest achievement was probably the fur shading, and that's sad. I'm inclined to believe the old Dino Planet N64 game was more fun, especially since it seemed Krystal was actually a major playable character, not some boring female dog who only threw barrels around for 10 minutes inside a dungeon-wannabe then was forgotten for the rest of the game.
Title: Rareware
Post by: dogman85 on July 06, 2003, 03:05:24 PM
ech, there is alot of stupidity going on in these forums
Rareware created perfect dark, banjo kazoiee, and conker. they were never Nintendo's property, so i don't know what some of you are thinking
Nintendo owns Starfox and Donkey Kong, and i believe all the Donkey Kong secondary characters (Diddy, Kiddy etc)
People say that Rare made Nintendo, and while it isn't true, what is true that people mainly bought the 64 for Nintendo and Rare games Goldeneye, Donkey Kong, Perfect Dark, and Conker were all extremely important for Nintendo Star Fox Adventures may not have been AAA, but Rare still has the talent.
I think we should actually wait for them to release a game on Xbox before judging whether they are good or not
Title: Rareware
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 06, 2003, 06:56:50 PM
Donkey Kong 64 didn't measure up to much, and Conker had quite unpolished gameplay (don't be fooled by its amazing presentation values).
The fact SFA was not AAA, I'd say not even A, says a lot about Rare.
Title: Rareware
Post by: Bishman on July 06, 2003, 07:17:17 PM
Rare is nothng now. FR = GoldenEye
Title: Rareware
Post by: mouse_clicker on July 06, 2003, 07:24:22 PM
It pisses me off how much Rare gets bashed now that they're with Microsoft. I find it VERY odd you heard only praise for Rare before they were sold off by Nintendo.
Title: Rareware
Post by: Cooolcorey on July 06, 2003, 08:35:16 PM
I agree with that. But I understand why it's happened.
When Nintendo sold Rare people thought to themselves "Why?". After SFA was released we found that it was an average game (with way above average graphics, but gameplay wise, was quite average) and maybe Rare was losing it's steam.
I still have hope for Rare though, that was ONE game. And while the GE/PD team isn't there anymore, I think they might be able to pull of a decent Perfect Dark 0. They have immense graphical and musical talent, I just hope they haven't lost good designers (GE/PD designer is with Zoonami now...). I don't care that they're on the XBox, I hope they continue to make great games, but as evidensed by Nintendo's selling of them, I don't think it's the case.
Title: Rareware
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 06, 2003, 08:50:28 PM
Don't forget to add Conker's 10 hour game length (considering its 4-year development time). And don't forget how enjoyable collecting bananas was in DK64. And how head-over-heels excited and impressed people are with the Conker Xbox remake.
While we're at it, let's bash Nintendo for selling Rare, utter lack of simple p2p online game support, easy Wind Waker, short Sunshine, bad Eternal Darkness FMV compression, loss of 3rd party interest, and no next-gen Duck Hunt or Kid Icarus.
Title: Rareware
Post by: ThePerm on July 06, 2003, 11:28:28 PM
the two companies really settled what franchises went to the right places...for instance..rare got pd, conker, and banjo, and get to finish kameo on xbox. Nitnendo got to keep rare created characters like diddy...and anyone who appeared in the kong games except diddy kong racing. Theres been rumors that rare saw no interest in taking blast corps and jet force gemini with them so they may just be owned by nintendo still. Of coarse Starfox was created by Argonaut/Nintendo, and Nintendo owns Star Fox and Donkey Kong was Nintendo's first property and the first appearence of Mario. After fighting with Universal years back i don't think Nintendo would give up their oldest franchise. So, if anyone is still stupid enough to beleie Rare took it with them they need to be smacked...HARD
Title: Rareware
Post by: mouse_clicker on July 07, 2003, 02:41:57 AM
Rare's gone because of poor sales, not poor games- Rare is one of my favorite developers ever and I've had hours of enjoyment playing them games across nearly every Nintendo console. I understand WHY Nintendo let them go, but I don't understand why people feel the need to bash them since since they can't play their games anymore. I may not like Microsoft, but those XBox owners are getting a real gem of a developer and I hope they show them more respect than most Nintendo fan/fanboys are showing them now.
Title: Rareware
Post by: Cooolcorey on July 07, 2003, 03:21:51 AM
Now that I think about it, that was the reason Nintendo stated that they sold them. But poor games was no doubt a factor. They could keep having games like SFA, DK64 etc. or $180 million. Granted, they might have had a good game or two in there but remember, the GE team is gone.
Title: Rareware
Post by: DRJ on July 07, 2003, 06:15:21 AM
Quote It pisses me off how much Rare gets bashed now that they're with Microsoft. I find it VERY odd you heard only praise for Rare before they were sold off by Nintendo.
I agree. The company didnt just up and start sucking because they make games for M$. If you want to be mad at someone be mad at Nintendo for selling them. If the games were good for Nintendo they will still be good for M$ and if they sucked for Nintendo they will still suck for M$. I personally inly care about DK and Starfox, and we still have those so I am happy. But we did lose a good developer and we will have to see what Nintendo does with the extra 350 million they got.
I'm all for M$ bashing, but dont bash them when they make a good move. As far as I'm concerned Nintendo should have just kept Rareware. They have 6 billion in the bank so they could have afforded it. Even if they are not their best developer, there is no excuse for handing them over to your competition.
Title: Rareware
Post by: Grey Ninja on July 07, 2003, 06:57:01 AM
Quote Originally posted by: mouse_clicker Rare's gone because of poor sales, not poor games- Rare is one of my favorite developers ever and I've had hours of enjoyment playing them games across nearly every Nintendo console. I understand WHY Nintendo let them go, but I don't understand why people feel the need to bash them since since they can't play their games anymore. I may not like Microsoft, but those XBox owners are getting a real gem of a developer and I hope they show them more respect than most Nintendo fan/fanboys are showing them now.
I agree that I think Rare is getting bashed way too much, but I don't personally entirely disagree with the Rare bashing. In the last while they were with Nintendo, the time between their releases grew progressively longer, while the quality dropped further and further down.
Don't get me wrong, I loved Conker's Bad Fur Day, Goldeneye, and Killer Instinct. They were some great games. But for every game Rare made that was a heartstopper, they made one that was just bad. (Donkey Kong 64, Jet Force Gemini, Star Fox Adventures, Diddy Kong Racing.)
I DO miss Rare. Don't get me wrong there. I just find it very difficult to criticize Nintendo for dropping them, given the circumstances.
Title: Rareware
Post by: Hostile Creation on July 07, 2003, 08:19:06 AM
Oh, don't worry mouse clicker. I hated Rare long before they were bought by Microsoft.
I do miss some of their old games, though. Goldeneye was fun, and so was Donkey Kong for SNES and Killer Instinct (for SNES, never played the 64 version). But 6 or 7 good games is not that great compared to 8 or 9 bad ones. And I had the misfortune of somehow ending up with the bad ones (I never owned any of the good games that I listed).
Title: Rareware
Post by: mouse_clicker on July 07, 2003, 08:45:54 AM
How come nobody voiced their views abotu Rare's drop in quality BEFORE they left Nintendo? It doesn't make sense! Before anything hit the fan all anybody had for Rare was praise- Rare was constantly listed as a reason to own a Gamecube, and then all of the sudden Rare "Was never that good", or "their quality started dropping", but only AFTER Microsoft bought them? I loved Rare from when I first play Donkey Kong Country on the SNES all the way up to Starfox Adventures on the Gamecube (which I thought was great). Sure not ALL of Rare's games have been top notch, but NEARLY all have, and that's something only a handful of developers can ever claim to. Nintendo dropped Rare because of SALES people, not quality- as far as I'm concerned Rare kicked ass all the way through Starfox Adventures and all signs point to their continuous ass kicking on the XBox.
Title: Rareware
Post by: DRJ on July 07, 2003, 09:43:44 AM
Quote and all sings point to their continuous ass kicking on the XBox.
I agree
Title: Rareware
Post by: Grey Ninja on July 07, 2003, 09:47:02 AM
mousy, Rare was dropped because they don't make games anymore. It took them like 2 years to make Star Fox Adventures, and from the looks of it, Xbox might never see a Rare game. Rare can't make games in a timely fashion, and they were becoming a large stone around Nintendo's neck. Rare did make some pretty spectacular things, and I am not debating that.
But really, you have to wonder just how much of Rare is really left? Rare was falling apart before they were bought by MS, and afterward, I remember reading a report that said that over 25 people left Rare after they were sold. How much talent really remains in Rare is the big question of the day. To this point, NOBODY can answer that question. So far all we have seen is the laughing stock of E3, a remake of Conker, a few screenshots of a cel shaded Perfect Dark that IGN speculates will never see the light of day on Xbox (and I tend to agree), and Kameo, which was first promised to US as a launch title on GameCube.
Title: Rareware
Post by: ThePerm on July 07, 2003, 09:50:35 AM
Diddy Kong Racing...what are you talkign about that game was awesome! anyways Rare isnt all hits. For Xbox they'll makre some good games and some bad games, and some games that are good that won't be hits. Grabbed by ghoulies...you know it could be cool.
Title: Rareware
Post by: MysticGohan on July 07, 2003, 10:02:06 AM
Quote Originally posted by: mouse_clicker as far as I'm concerned Rare kicked ass all the way through Starfox Adventures and all sings point to their continuous ass kicking on the XBox.
Rare sings?
I seriously doubt though that well see anything from rare on the xbox, unless it's one game at the end of it's life.
Title: Rareware
Post by: mouse_clicker on July 07, 2003, 12:36:44 PM
Well, I think one of the main reasons Rare wasn't getting good sales was because they took so long to make a game- people lost interest after a while. All in all Nintendo was putting a lot of money into Rare and not getting a lot back. I STILL think their games were awesome, though- I just think it was absurd of Microsoft to pay $375 million for them.
You also raise a good point about people leaving- I wouldn't be too worried if the Stamper brothers were still there, but I'm not sure if they are. Either way I still think they have the ability to make some great games (although Grabbed by the Ghoulies looks horrible).
Mystic: A simple "check your spelling" would've done just fine.
Title: Rareware
Post by: Cooolcorey on July 07, 2003, 03:55:23 PM
I think the Stamper bros. are still in the R&D department.