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Title: Mario Maker confirmed!
Post by: tendoboy1984 on June 05, 2014, 06:36:48 PM
Mario Maker has been confirmed for Wii U. It's a tile-based level editor that uses the Gamepad's touchscreen. You can switch between 8-bit Super Mario Bros. and New Super Mario Bros. graphics, with more graphics styles and objects planned for the final product. The game is releasing sometime in 2015.

Source: e3.nintendo.com (http://e3.nintendo.com)

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Quote from: GoNintendo
Coming from a USGamer interview with Takashi Tezuka ...

"Obviously, there will be other graphical styles included and nothing's been decided yet, but I'd also like to include other graphics that aren't Mario. No, it won't be top-down (like Zelda) It's always going to be a 2D platformer."

- plans to integrate more enemy and object types
- hopes to include features similar to those of that of Mario Paint
- would like to add a music composition feature
- Tezuku says "sharing with friends is really the whole point of making levels"
- details on sharing have not been made public
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: Khushrenada on June 05, 2014, 06:47:56 PM
For you it may be the greatest rumour but it doesn't strike my fancy at all. I've never really been interested in doing that. I think part of the reason is because I've always been satsified with the level design present in games and Mario platformers in particular that I'm not playing wishing I had the ability to make my own levels. And even if I don't care for a level design, I'm not wishing I had the tools to do it better. I just play it and move on. Same goes for things like Smash Bros. Brawl stages, user created puzzles in Picross, or Civilization fan mods. I'm content with the existing product and have no desire or wish to try and design something worthwhile nor do I feel like going through other fan created content to find something worthwhile or genius.
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: pokepal148 on June 05, 2014, 06:50:09 PM
Shouldn't we have an e3 rumors megathread instead of a thread for each.
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: tendoboy1984 on June 05, 2014, 07:05:27 PM
For you it may be the greatest rumour but it doesn't strike my fancy at all. I've never really been interested in doing that. I think part of the reason is because I've always been satsified with the level design present in games and Mario platformers in particular that I'm not playing wishing I had the ability to make my own levels. And even if I don't care for a level design, I'm not wishing I had the tools to do it better. I just play it and move on. Same goes for things like Smash Bros. Brawl stages, user created puzzles in Picross, or Civilization fan mods. I'm content with the existing product and have no desire or wish to try and design something worthwhile nor do I feel like going through other fan created content to find something worthwhile or genius.


So I take it you don't like being creative? You've never wanted to create your own levels in a video game?
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: stevey on June 05, 2014, 07:10:13 PM
F-Zero U with an incredibly extensive track/texture/vehicle editor: Yes please
Yet another SMB ROM hacker being sold for $20-40: No
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: tendoboy1984 on June 05, 2014, 07:15:33 PM
If this is an eShop release, it won't be $30. Why do you assume it will be retail? It could be a smaller title like Pushmo, NES Remix, or Dillon's Rolling Western.
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: Nile Boogie Returns on June 05, 2014, 07:19:14 PM
Definitely part of a suite or its a dirt cheap eshop game. Can't expect this to be much more than  that unless is uses HD textures and the like, which it won't of course.
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: tendoboy1984 on June 05, 2014, 07:23:35 PM
It's definitely an eShop game. Hopefully it's for both Wii U and 3DS so all Nintendo fans can get to use it.
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: Soren on June 05, 2014, 07:27:48 PM
I never really cared for user created Mario levels. Big ol' meh for me.
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: tendoboy1984 on June 05, 2014, 07:48:09 PM
I never really cared for user created Mario levels. Big ol' meh for me.


The point is you can create them yourself and share them with other players. Haven't you ever wanted to make your own levels for fun?
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: Phil on June 05, 2014, 07:50:20 PM
I never really cared for user created Mario levels. Big ol' meh for me.

The point is you can create them yourself and share them with other players. Haven't you ever wanted to make your own levels for fun?

Yes, but not some rote Mario levels. I am interested in more intense creation-- enemies, scenery, obstacles, etc. Then again, that's why I'm studying to get into the industry! :)
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: Ian Sane on June 05, 2014, 07:58:43 PM
This would be a cool tool and frankly a no-brainer for Nintendo since such tools already exist and Nintendo gets no cut.  But the problem is that those tools exist and they're free and Nintendo is probably not going to provide as robust of an experience.  But it might appeal to people that do not know that these tools are available.

I wouldn't get it simply because it would likely use crappy NSMB polygons.  I want to use the sprites from SMW and SMAS and Nintendo certainly won't offer that.
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: tendoboy1984 on June 05, 2014, 08:25:48 PM
This would be a cool tool and frankly a no-brainer for Nintendo since such tools already exist and Nintendo gets no cut.  But the problem is that those tools exist and they're free and Nintendo is probably not going to provide as robust of an experience.  But it might appeal to people that do not know that these tools are available.

I wouldn't get it simply because it would likely use crappy NSMB polygons.  I want to use the sprites from SMW and SMAS and Nintendo certainly won't offer that.


I don't care if it uses assets from NSMB, SMB3, or SMW... The point is Nintendo is finally making a level editor, after all these years of hoping and begging.


What system do you think it will be for? Wii U or 3DS? Or maybe it's a cross-platform release like Smash Bros.
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on June 05, 2014, 09:17:28 PM
Um if you don't care then why are you so damn excited? Are you just excited because Nintendo is making a level editor at all? I think most people are just not that excited because in reality Nintendo's game designers are top notch, it's their trademark and they sole reason they still exist as a company so why would someone get excited for fan/user created crap that will not live up to the level design Nintendo's own highly skilled developers with their combined 30+ years experience? Also as stated in the thread, these tools already exist and are for free if you want to edit levels in a Mario game have at it nobody is stopping you. Or download one of those awful hacks and see for yourself how bad they are. At best it would be good for an afternoon then become really boring.  What's next a Pac-Man make your own maze game?(fixed)
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: Phil on June 05, 2014, 09:21:01 PM
Um if you don't care then why are you so damn excited? Are you just excited because Nintendo is making a level editor at all? I think most people are just not that excited because in reality Nintendo's game designers are top notch, it's their trademark and they sole reason they still exist as a company so why would someone get excited for fan/user created crap that will not live up to the level design Nintendo's own highly skilled developers with their combined 30+ years experience? Also as stated in the thread, these tools already exist and are for free if you want to edit levels in a Mario game have at it nobody is stopping you. Or download one of those awful hacks and see for yourself how bad they are. At best it would be good for an afternoon then become really boring. Has the Wii U sunk so low that a level editor for a 30 year old game gets people excited? What's next a Pac-Man make your own maze game?

Ooh, was with you until this. No, one has nothing to do with the other, and that's rather disingenuous.
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on June 05, 2014, 09:26:18 PM
If that is how I feel about it what does it matter to you? If that is how he feels about it what do I care? I stand by my sentiment but I edited the comment nonetheless just for the hell of it. Also I don't share my opinions to be liked, I comment like everyone else does when I think of something to say, if you don't like what I have to say fine by me. They are related though despite your effort to dismiss my opinions because they differ from yours. Currently the entire industry, this community and site as well, has recognized the Wii U has a sever software shortage, so it stands to reason that anything would get some folks excited but this is a low point, something you can get for free elsewhere, something that allows you to edit 30 year old content, and something that flies in the face of the most skilled, world reknown programmers in the entire industry. If Nintendo has sunk so low as to see this as something to release they are grasping for straws because nobody but the most hard core fan wants this, and they already have the machine and this is likely an what $5 a pop game? Not something that will rake them in a lot of dough now is it? So yes a low point it is.
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: Khushrenada on June 05, 2014, 09:29:42 PM
For you it may be the greatest rumour but it doesn't strike my fancy at all. I've never really been interested in doing that. I think part of the reason is because I've always been satsified with the level design present in games and Mario platformers in particular that I'm not playing wishing I had the ability to make my own levels. And even if I don't care for a level design, I'm not wishing I had the tools to do it better. I just play it and move on. Same goes for things like Smash Bros. Brawl stages, user created puzzles in Picross, or Civilization fan mods. I'm content with the existing product and have no desire or wish to try and design something worthwhile nor do I feel like going through other fan created content to find something worthwhile or genius.


So I take it you don't like being creative? You've never wanted to create your own levels in a video game?

I've had ideas of video games I'd want to create but to just tack on or add some so-so levels to an existing game is not something I'd be interested in. As people sort of mention in this thread, a create your own level kit sounds neat at first but then you soon realize that you can only use the items and tools given in the kit so you may not be able to achieve your ideal design anyways and are stuck with limited options. And then the appeal is fast gone. Moreover, let's say 1000 levels are made. I'd wager only 25 would actually be cool and worth checking out and I feel that is being generous. I do not want to wade through the other 975 to find them so I just wouldn't bother with it.

It might make me a downer and I try and avoid that attitude on here but in this case, I'm afraid it is the one E3 rumour I've felt really blasé about and yet it also looks to be one of the most likely to happen.
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: Soren on June 05, 2014, 09:30:25 PM
I stand by my sentiment but I edited the comment nonetheless just for the hell of it.


That's the exact opposite of standing by your statement.
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on June 05, 2014, 09:31:48 PM
Not really, he already quoted my post and bolded it his post got my point across better than mine.
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: Phil on June 05, 2014, 09:32:29 PM
If that is how I feel about it what does it matter to you? If that is how he feels about it what do I care? I stand by my sentiment but I edited the comment nonetheless just for the hell of it.

You posted a public comment, and I responded with my opinion, much like you shared yours. If you don't care about opinions at all, then don't bother posting at all since there's no point. I mean, what does any opinion matter to anyone with that attitude?

It seems you're in one of your moods again, which is unfortunate. I hope you feel better soon.
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: Soren on June 05, 2014, 09:33:41 PM
The point is you can create them yourself and share them with other players. Haven't you ever wanted to make your own levels for fun?


Just not enough interest for me. Being a motorsports fan I'd much rather have a track editor for Mario Kart/F-Zero.
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on June 05, 2014, 09:34:11 PM
Actually I am in a good mood, but I disagree with your comment that is the point of a discussion. We can disagree and still get along arguing is not evil you know.
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: Khushrenada on June 05, 2014, 09:36:07 PM
Shouldn't we have an e3 rumors megathread instead of a thread for each.

I said this in another thread but I'm all for thread creation and proliferation even if a thread is only good for 1 or two posts. Heck, there is now a thread about this thing in the Handheld forum and the Talkback forum. I love it!

In fact, I'm glad to see tendoboy1984 back after an absence because he right away helps create new threads. Even if you don't like his original post or idea, chiming in your thoughts can get the ball rolling and leading into an interesting conversation anyways. Threads on the same topic can turn into different conversations but one thread on a topic is always stuck to the flow of conversation that thread is taking and conversations can be more stifled, snuffed out faster or lost in an ever-growing page count.
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: Phil on June 05, 2014, 09:36:21 PM
Actually I am in a good mood, but I disagree with your comment that is the point of a discussion. We can disagree and still get along arguing is not evil you know.

You don't appear to be interested in discussion asking me why I care about your post, and why you care about anyone else's.

"If that is how I feel about it what does it matter to you? If that is how he feels about it what do I care?"

One open to discussion wouldn't be so closed-minded. :/

And if this is a good mood to you, tell me when you're in a bad mood so I'm nowhere near you, or I'll give you the same attitude right back at you, and I won't hold back either. :)
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: Khushrenada on June 05, 2014, 09:37:24 PM
If that is how I feel about it what does it matter to you? If that is how he feels about it what do I care? I stand by my sentiment but I edited the comment nonetheless just for the hell of it.

You posted a public comment, and I responded with my opinion, much like you shared yours. If you don't care about opinions at all, then don't bother posting at all since there's no point. I mean, what does any opinion matter to anyone with that attitude?

It seems you're in one of your moods again, which is unfortunate. I hope you feel better soon.

Easy Phil. No need to go on the warpath.
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: Phil on June 05, 2014, 09:39:52 PM
Then beating up that voodoo doll was not healthy.
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on June 05, 2014, 09:40:13 PM
Actually I am in a good mood, but I disagree with your comment that is the point of a discussion. We can disagree and still get along arguing is not evil you know.

You don't appear to be interested in discussion asking me why I care about your post, and why you care about anyone else's.

"If that is how I feel about it what does it matter to you? If that is how he feels about it what do I care?"

One open to discussion wouldn't be so closed-minded. :/

And if this is a good mood to you, tell me when you're in a bad mood so I'm nowhere near you, or I'll give you the same attitude right back at you, and I won't hold back either. :)


Fair enough, now read the EDITED version of the post you quoted and see my thoughts that I added to the discussion and we can both move away from the inevtiable mud slingin you know is coming  ;) if we stay the course.



My opinion is that this is a low for Nintendo I even gave my reasons, once again I share my reasoning and someone , Phil in particular seems to have a habit of this, side steps the discussion. So if you disagree with me please tell me how and why actually you said you agreed with me until that last part, so refute my claim perhaps? I think it is a low point for them most in the industry and fandom tend to agree with me, I am not saying it is trash or attacking those who like it but it is hard to not admit Wii U is at a low point right now.
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: Phil on June 05, 2014, 09:45:00 PM
Your initial post talked about the Wii U sinking so low that a Mario Maker gets Wii U owners excited, as if they have nothing to be excited for. It was disingenuous was my point. I mean, we're just coming off Mario Kart 8's release, and there's been various indie announcements, Pushmo World, Hyrule Warriors, Smash Bros., the upcoming X game, etc.

Cut the condescension, please. It does not help your argument or make me want to be nice to you. However, I apologize for my tone to you earlier.
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: Khushrenada on June 05, 2014, 09:48:11 PM
Then beating up that voodoo doll was not healthy.

lol

Actually I am in a good mood, but I disagree with your comment that is the point of a discussion. We can disagree and still get along arguing is not evil you know.

You don't appear to be interested in discussion asking me why I care about your post, and why you care about anyone else's.

"If that is how I feel about it what does it matter to you? If that is how he feels about it what do I care?"

One open to discussion wouldn't be so closed-minded. :/

And if this is a good mood to you, tell me when you're in a bad mood so I'm nowhere near you, or I'll give you the same attitude right back at you, and I won't hold back either. :)


Fair enough, now read the EDITED version of the post you quoted and see my thoughts that I added to the discussion and we can both move away from the inevtiable mud slingin you know is coming  ;) if we stay the course.



My opinion is that this is a low for Nintendo I even gave my reasons, once again I share my reasoning and someone , Phil in particular seems to have a habit of this, side steps the discussion. So if you disagree with me please tell me how and why actually you said you agreed with me until that last part, so refute my claim perhaps? I think it is a low point for them most in the industry and fandom tend to agree with me, I am not saying it is trash or attacking those who like it but it is hard to not admit Wii U is at a low point right now.

I'd say that right now the Wii U is starting to trend upwards abit. Sure, it still has a lot of obstacles to overcome but considering the state of everything else in the industry, it is starting to look like it could start building some positive momentum especially with the boost Mario Kart 8 is giving it. It should also be pointed out that we don't know which platform the Mario Maker could be on if it exists and it could be on 3DS so using it as proof of Wii U failure is premature.
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on June 05, 2014, 09:53:35 PM
Alright then you defended your point that was all I was asking. I would contend that two years out they should have more than what is it five games to get excited for? That seems like a low point to me, not saying those aren't games to get hyped for but they are months away and we already knew about them ages ago. Smash Bros. was coming before Brawl was made by now it's pretty much a given, same with Mario Kart which hey enjoy it have fun more power to you. But honestly I feel that by now the Wii U should have more to get excited about. You can kind of forgive the new guys for being in their first year, where Wii U was a year ago, but this thing has been on the market for nearly two full years now, some of these games have been known about before the console was announced, so yes I think that constitutes a low point. Obviously you disagree so there is that,

Tendoboy I am sorry i dragged your thread through the mud and rained on your parade if you think the game is worth getting hyped about go for it but don't let me bring you down,.



Khush, saw your post as I was clicking mine, so here is a quick edit, yes you are aright it could be for 3DS which would continue my feelings of Wii U being a low point, in that case one less game for Wii U fans to get excited for, as is the trend is it not?
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: Soren on June 05, 2014, 09:57:17 PM
The image looks like it originated on 4chan. So let's not get worked up for something that is clearly fake.
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: Phil on June 05, 2014, 10:03:26 PM
This tweet is from the deputy news director of Polygon.

https://twitter.com/MikeMcWhertor/status/474703186335240192 (https://twitter.com/MikeMcWhertor/status/474703186335240192)

*shrugs*
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on June 05, 2014, 10:14:55 PM
damn I was almost sold on buying a Wii U too. Now I will have to settle for an Xbox One.
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: the asylum on June 06, 2014, 12:07:38 AM
F-Zero U with an incredibly extensive track/texture/vehicle editor: Yes please
Yet another SMB ROM hacker being sold for $20-40: No

This. This this this this this and this.

I've toyed around with the F-Zero X editor a bit (though I won't say how I came by it ;) ), and using the on-screen buttons to do real complex tracks was a pain. Just imagine how much easier it could be with a touch screen

.... too bad imagining it is likely as far as we'll ever get to it, though. Gotta milk that Mario some more
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: tendoboy1984 on June 06, 2014, 02:01:09 AM
damn I was almost sold on buying a Wii U too. Now I will have to settle for an Xbox One.


Dude stop trolling. There are plenty of reasons to get a Wii U. You can own more than one console, you know. Most people get Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games, and have another console for third-party titles.
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: Ceric on June 06, 2014, 09:16:48 AM
I could see Nintendo expanding this sort of thing with Franchise packs that would allow designers access to other franchises.  In particular anything in the NES Remixes.

I know there are people who would really like this.  I'm not a make my own fun type of person so doesn't really appeal to me but I know people who it would.
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: Nile Boogie Returns on June 06, 2014, 01:42:41 PM
User created content is the new farm system. This plays right into Nintendo's plan of attack. If you couple this with the rumored Nintendo On Demand streaming service and you have the makings of something different and unique.

The best levels get added to the front page of the eshop with a minamal fee and watch...
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on June 06, 2014, 06:42:46 PM
I am not entirely against user created content just not that enthusiastic to edit levels of a 30 year old game. Maybe if this let you edit like more than just Mario games but isn't it called Mario Maker? More info is needed to make a better judgement I suppose.
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: tendoboy1984 on June 06, 2014, 06:57:30 PM
What Nintendo On Demand system?

And for those claiming this level editor takes away the hard work of programmers and artists... I take it you've never played LittleBigPlanet or the Mario vs DK series. Those games were designed for user created content.

And I was saying I didn't care what level packs are used. I'd prefer something more recent than the original Super Mario Bros., but maybe tools based on SMB3, SMW, and NSMB are planned as DLC.
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: tendoboy1984 on June 06, 2014, 07:12:01 PM
People on NeoGAF have doubted the picture's authenticity since it's in the same section as the Smash Bros. demo station. However, a staff member from Polygon tweeted that he allegedly saw the poster himself (he's supposedly at the LA Convention Center).
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on June 06, 2014, 08:00:31 PM
What Nintendo On Demand system?

And for those claiming this level editor takes away the hard work of programmers and artists... I take it you've never played LittleBigPlanet or the Mario vs DK series. Those games were designed for user created content.

And I was saying I didn't care what level packs are used. I'd prefer something more recent than the original Super Mario Bros., but maybe tools based on SMB3, SMW, and NSMB are planned as DLC.



I didn't say it takes away from their hard work I said that user created content is not up to same high standards they already have, Littlebigplanet is NOT a Nintendo game by the way.
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: Nile Boogie Returns on June 06, 2014, 11:11:08 PM

"What Nintendo On Demand system"












There were rumblings a few months back that Nintendo was thinking of doing a On Demand Virtual Console. Pay a monthly subscription and have access to the entire catalog of Nintendo games, or a large portion of it. Basically Netflix for Nintendo games. With one of the hurdles being GameCube support and another being how much of the catalog to make available while not cutting into their VC profits.
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: pokepal148 on June 06, 2014, 11:17:01 PM
damn I was almost sold on buying a Wii U too. Now I will have to settle for an Xbox One.


Dude stop trolling. There are plenty of reasons to get a Wii U. You can own more than one console, you know. Most people get Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games, and have another console for third-party titles.
I think he was joking.
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: Stratos on June 07, 2014, 11:18:51 AM
As I have said elsewhere, I would love this to experience other people's creativity. My own attempts at custom levels are always lacking in one way or another. Though that is typically because I prefer more control than most game editors were willing to permit. It is why the Starcraft level editor is still the only one I poured any substantial amount of time into.


Having the gamepad would be a great way to give me some of the control I want. Though it is more the options that will be the deal breaker for me. Can I customize how high a wall is or do I only get "short wall" and "tall wall"?
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: BranDonk Kong on June 07, 2014, 11:29:35 AM
Nintendo really should go with a PS Plus-style system. I think a lot of us were against PS Plus in the beginning, but if you are just now getting into it, and have a PS3, PSP, it's a hell of a deal for all the free games you get. Nintendo could do that (not charge for online multiplayer, because there aren't enough people to make it worthwhile), but charge a monthly or yearly fee and give you free VC, eShop, retail games like SONY does.
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: tendoboy1984 on June 07, 2014, 01:21:27 PM
Someone should take another picture from a different angle. That way we'll know if this is real before the conference.

The person was probably standing far from the poster so he wouldn't get caught by anyone passing by. The picture is clearly zoomed and cropped, making it blurry.
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: BranDonk Kong on June 07, 2014, 02:57:32 PM
ENHANCE.
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: tendoboy1984 on June 07, 2014, 04:49:55 PM
ENHANCE.

??? ? ? ?
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 07, 2014, 05:17:59 PM
ENHANCE.

? ? ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uoM5kfZIQ0

or more pecifically, and the parody of the above CI cenario:

Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: Stratos on June 07, 2014, 05:29:08 PM
I swear there is a better spoof of the CSI "Enhance" joke. But I can't seem to find it...
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: Shorty McNostril on June 10, 2014, 03:45:41 AM
I am still deciding whether to get up at 2am to watch Nintendo's Direct.  I just have this suspicion that they are going to stuff it up again as usual. 

I just can't help but give them benefit of the doubt.  Again.
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: BranDonk Kong on June 10, 2014, 01:03:47 PM
Mario Makers looks awesome. Didn't realize it would swap between NES and Wii U Mario styles on the fly.
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: pokepal148 on June 10, 2014, 04:07:57 PM
Mario Makers looks awesome. Didn't realize it would swap between NES and Wii U Mario styles on the fly.
That is interesting.

the fact that we are apparently limited to smb1 tools is not.
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 10, 2014, 04:11:38 PM
Mario Makers looks awesome. Didn't realize it would swap between NES and Wii U Mario styles on the fly.
That is interesting.

the fact that we are apparently limited to smb1 tools is not.

They gotta save something for the sequel... or the DLC packs.
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: Ian Sane on June 10, 2014, 04:26:48 PM
I'd wait for a SMW variation.  Nintendo's infactuation with SMB1 is weird.  I don't think it is anyone's favourite Mario game.  It's historic and is certainly still enjoyable to play but it has been so thoroughly topped by its sequels that it's really a game for history buffs and completists today.  If Nintendo did a fan vote for what retro style to use, SMB1 would almostly certainly NOT win.  Hell, when I was a kid we all thought SMB1 was super old, when it was only like three years old at the time.

Of course SMB1 is a lot simpler than the later titles so I can see an obvious advantage for Nintendo to go with something simpler for a game editor, particularly when it's their first go at it.  But that all goes back to my assumption that they wouldn't match the free editors already available from hackers.

I do like, however, that they're open to retro styles so that's encouraging for sequels or DLC.  I was afraid we'd get NSMB style and nothing but.
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on June 10, 2014, 09:20:24 PM
being able to switch to New SMB style makes it more worth looking at, as then it is more than just a rom hacking pos.
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: pokepal148 on June 10, 2014, 11:43:21 PM
at least we can edit beyond the flagpole, *readies kaizo trap*
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: Soren on June 11, 2014, 09:54:17 AM
I'm glad have been proven wrong with this rumor. I'm still on the fence about it, but I can see the charm and if the price is right I could mess around with this game, mostly to see what other people create. I do wish it had SMW graphics though.
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: MagicCow64 on June 11, 2014, 01:50:24 PM
This really does seem like the perfect opportunity for DLC. $20 base game with SMB1 enemies and items, $5 SMB3 pack, $5 SMW pack.

Having different grades of sprite graphics would be cool, but I'm more curious if you can scroll up much/at all. Having SM3 and SMW items won't matter much if you can't build the levels up vertically.
Title: Mario Maker level editor
Post by: tendoboy1984 on June 12, 2014, 11:24:42 PM
Coming from a USGamer interview with Takashi Tezuka ...

"Obviously, there will be other graphical styles included and nothing's been decided yet, but I'd also like to include other graphics that aren't Mario. No, it won't be top-down (like Zelda) It's always going to be a 2D platformer."

- plans to integrate more enemy and object types
- hopes to include features similar to those of that of Mario Paint
- would like to add a music composition feature
- Tezuku says "sharing with friends is really the whole point of making levels"
- details on sharing have not been made public

Source: GoNintendo http://www.gonintendo.com/s/230842-mario-maker-to-feature-multiple-graphic-styles-may-feature-other-non-mario-characters-and-music-maker (http://www.gonintendo.com/s/230842-mario-maker-to-feature-multiple-graphic-styles-may-feature-other-non-mario-characters-and-music-maker)
Title: Re: This may be the best E3 rumor ever...
Post by: tendoboy1984 on June 12, 2014, 11:26:55 PM
This really does seem like the perfect opportunity for DLC. $20 base game with SMB1 enemies and items, $5 SMB3 pack, $5 SMW pack.

Having different grades of sprite graphics would be cool, but I'm more curious if you can scroll up much/at all. Having SM3 and SMW items won't matter much if you can't build the levels up vertically.

That's what I love about Mario Builder on the PC. It gives you a completely blank canvas so you can make your levels as big as you want.
Title: Re: Mario Maker level editor
Post by: Stratos on June 13, 2014, 09:56:13 AM
"No, it won't be top-down (like Zelda) It's always going to be a 2D platformer."


Hey! Maybe they can include Zelda 2 assets since that was a side-scroller. Would love it if the maker was deep enough to allow you to create a brawler/hack-n-slash game.
Title: Re: Mario Maker confirmed!
Post by: Diet Cake on June 22, 2014, 09:16:22 AM
This game is one of those rare cases where I don't care about what people think about it, nor if it will sell.  I just wanted to take it home with me.  I never cared for modding Mario games and settled with crappy flash games for my level-making fix.  Now, I could spend hours making levels.  However, I really wanted them to include the Super Mario World controls and art style.  Oh well, guess I'll wait for DLC.
Title: Re: Mario Maker confirmed!
Post by: Sundoulos on June 25, 2014, 12:27:58 PM
I'd honestly be far more interested in this if it were NES Remix Maker.