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Title: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie but maybe not: Slightly New Info!!!!
Post by: Nile Boogie Returns on April 26, 2014, 03:26:34 PM
Now I know that the "transitive property of mathematics" doesn't translate to Video Game console graphic prowess. So the fact that the Wii U is by most accounts more powerful than a PS3 and less powerful than a PS4 doesn't mean that every Wii U game will look better than the same game on PS3 and worse than PS4.


As for racing games NFS: Most Wanted Wii U looks better than its ps3 brother, and by a fair margin even to these old eyes.



Please view the first "Official" trailer for Project Cars Wii U:





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfvVAioSY6Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfvVAioSY6Y)


NO WAY!


This could be a very short thread (and not my first) but there is no way this game will look this good on wii u right? Are these dudes from an alternate timeline?






Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie. (trailer inside)
Post by: Oblivion on April 26, 2014, 04:50:54 PM
Doesn't look that great, to be honest. Compare that trailer to what it looks like on other platforms, especially PC.


Also doesn't help you linked to a trailer that is at "720p" and not what it actually will look like in game.
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie. (trailer inside)
Post by: Nile Boogie Returns on April 26, 2014, 05:32:55 PM
Did we look at the same trailer? That looked as good as well anything I've seen in console gaming thus far. And of course it won't look as good as One/ps4/PC why would it?


I didn't think the  Wii U version would run @ 1080p with these models and stay anywhere above 15fps so I tried to make a honest attempt at the real world performance of the game, maybe that was wrong.



Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie. (trailer inside)
Post by: Oblivion on April 26, 2014, 05:46:02 PM
You're right, it looks just as good as the rest of console gaming (PS3, 360) so far. So why is this newsworthy? Where does it say in that trailer that the game will even run at native 1080p? All I saw in that trailer was grainy Youtube compression of graphics that isn't anything new on relatively weak consoles.


Maybe if there's an uncompressed version of that trailer out there, we might be able to make better judgments.
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie. (trailer inside)
Post by: Nile Boogie Returns on April 26, 2014, 06:10:22 PM

Ask and thou shall receive, BEHOLD, Glorious uncompressed 1440p in all its glory and fusion!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBLMscFP5ec (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBLMscFP5ec)



Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie. (trailer inside)
Post by: Oblivion on April 26, 2014, 06:59:38 PM
Unfortunately, that is still not the native video. Youtube still lowers the bitrate and the framerate. 
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie. (trailer inside)
Post by: Soren on April 27, 2014, 01:26:39 PM
Nothing on YouTube is really "uncompressed".


That "Wii U trailer" is just the same trailer posted by the devs. As far as I know the only footage people have shown have been from high-end PCs. They've already said the Wii U version won't provide the "super-high-level graphical details" that will show up on other versions.


My best guess is it will look slightly prettier than Most Wanted. But it will at least provide Wii U the same level of sim racing experience Sony and Microsoft have with GT and Forza respectively.
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie. (trailer inside)
Post by: ShyGuy on April 27, 2014, 02:05:34 PM
I'm looking forward to it even if it looks half as good.
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie. (trailer inside)
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on April 27, 2014, 04:47:30 PM
It does look like a good game but if it is multiplatform is there anything special about the Wii U version? I am curious.
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie. (trailer inside)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 27, 2014, 07:22:24 PM
I think it looks good, well just as good as it did when they first announced it and it was quite impressive back then. I'm glad they feel far enough along to make an official trailer.

Here is the original thread for the game... from 2 years ago too:
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=37617.msg735350#msg735350
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie. (trailer inside)
Post by: Mop it up on April 27, 2014, 08:35:59 PM
It probably is a lie, but it didn't really tell me much about the game either. I guess it's more something like NASCAR? Not so sure if I would be interested or not.
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie. (trailer inside)
Post by: ShyGuy on April 27, 2014, 09:48:22 PM
It looks Forza-Turismo-tastic!
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie. (trailer inside)
Post by: Caliban on April 29, 2014, 10:11:25 PM
It probably is a lie, but it didn't really tell me much about the game either. I guess it's more something like NASCAR? Not so sure if I would be interested or not.

It's a simulator-type racing game which is a complete opposite to a game like Mario Kart.
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie. (trailer inside)
Post by: rlse9 on April 29, 2014, 11:14:29 PM
It probably is a lie, but it didn't really tell me much about the game either. I guess it's more something like NASCAR? Not so sure if I would be interested or not.

It's a simulator-type racing game which is a complete opposite to a game like Mario Kart.
I don't understand how Mario Kart can be the complete opposite of a simulator type racing game.  I don't know about you but my daily commute is filled with dodging banana peels, being hit by red shells, and being struck by lightning bolts.

In all seriousness the game looks like it could be good and any racing game on a Nintendo system that isn't a kart style game is a good thing.
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie. (trailer inside)
Post by: azeke on April 29, 2014, 11:20:22 PM
^ the bad part about it, is that if racing game doesn't have arcade crazyness and **** blowing up (and splitscreen), i'm not interested.

If you think this game looks impossibly good i suggest you looking at Forza or Gran Tourismo videos.

Too bad about the stale "realistic" gameplay though.
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie. (trailer inside)
Post by: Caliban on April 30, 2014, 08:32:48 AM
It probably is a lie, but it didn't really tell me much about the game either. I guess it's more something like NASCAR? Not so sure if I would be interested or not.

It's a simulator-type racing game which is a complete opposite to a game like Mario Kart.
I don't understand how Mario Kart can be the complete opposite of a simulator type racing game.  I don't know about you but my daily commute is filled with dodging banana peels, being hit by red shells, and being struck by lightning bolts.

In all seriousness the game looks like it could be good and any racing game on a Nintendo system that isn't a kart style game is a good thing.

Hahahaha @ your first comment.

I was just giving a comparison. I wasn't critiquing it in any way. I love both types of games.
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie. (trailer inside)
Post by: BranDonk Kong on April 30, 2014, 12:38:35 PM
I hope everyone realizes that the footage shown is not from the Wii U version of the game. That YouTube channel is not the developer, someone just re-uploaded the official trailer and said it's for Wii U.
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie. (trailer inside)
Post by: Nile Boogie Returns on April 30, 2014, 01:56:43 PM
I do realize that this is not Wii U footage per se but the fact that they canceled the ps360 version of this game bodes well for the wii u from a performance standpoint. As I understand it, the developer didn't wanna downgrade the engine too much.


Now to the graphics: This looks flat out better than GT6 and just as good as Forza. Maybe not Driveclub but it looks damn good and even the WiiU version should balance out to surpass GT6 in the graphics dept.
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie. (trailer inside)
Post by: azeke on April 30, 2014, 10:07:48 PM
Forza, GT, Driveclub i see no difference, even if my life depended on it.


It's just cars on the tracks, man. Sometimes same cars on same tracks even.
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie. (trailer inside)
Post by: Nile Boogie Returns on April 30, 2014, 10:17:52 PM
Forza, GT, Driveclub i see no difference, even if my life depended on it.


It's just cars on the tracks, man. Sometimes same cars on same tracks even.




Really? This might be since I'm a car guy but GT6 on PS3 and DriveClub have a considerable margin in the graphics dept.
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie. (trailer inside)
Post by: smallsharkbigbite on May 01, 2014, 10:08:58 AM
I guess I'm less concerned about graphics and more concerned about physics/ai. I hadn't heard entirely positive things on those from people who participated in the beta so this kind of fell off my radar.

Maybe if reviews are positive I'll give it a look but not on the wii u. The best way to experience a simulation is with wheels/pedals and Nintendo has no such compatible accessories.
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie. (trailer inside)
Post by: Shorty McNostril on July 11, 2014, 09:53:44 AM
Delayed till next year.

http://www.videogamer.com/wiiu/project_cars/news/project_cars_wont_release_on_wii_u_until_2015.html
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie. (trailer inside)
Post by: Oblivion on July 11, 2014, 11:26:45 AM
Gotta love how the console version that was in production first is the last one getting released. What a bunch of horse ****.

Give it a few months, it'll probably be cancelled.
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie. (trailer inside)
Post by: ShyGuy on July 11, 2014, 12:24:25 PM
I hate this kind of crap. hey kickstarters, you just got WATCHDOGGED


edit: I guess they did crowdfunding outside of Kickstarter, but still.
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie. (trailer inside)
Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 11, 2014, 09:48:09 PM
I'm still not convinced this game is ever going to come out on anything, or else I'd be more upset by this news.
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie. (trailer inside)
Post by: Nile Boogie Returns on July 11, 2014, 10:30:20 PM
Everything was 2015! What the folly? Long as Arcade racer is not delayed...
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie. (trailer inside)
Post by: Enner on July 11, 2014, 11:05:05 PM
It's a shame that it got delayed. Given that there has been no footage of the Wii U version, one starts to wonder if it even exists!

Kidding aside, I do want to see the Wii U version of the game. The developer doesn't have much experience on Nintendo platforms to my knowledge and I want to see if they can do something special on the system.
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie. (trailer inside)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 12, 2014, 12:07:16 AM
It'll be PC Freeware in a few years. Just be patient.
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie. (trailer inside)
Post by: ShyGuy on July 12, 2014, 04:29:45 AM
So they ran out of money and Namco funding got involved and started calling the release schedule shots, because the whole team had to start pumping all work into the"premier" platforms if they had any chance of getting it out in November?
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie. (trailer inside)
Post by: Soren on July 12, 2014, 12:21:13 PM
Meh.
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie. (trailer inside)
Post by: Soren on October 18, 2014, 01:04:29 PM
Now all the versions of the game have been pushed back to 2015. Wii U version still doesn't have a specific date, though.
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie. (trailer inside)
Post by: BranDonk Kong on October 18, 2014, 01:07:50 PM
I thought I read that they are all pushed back to the same date. Trying to avoid the GTA5, Halo Anniversary, etc launch windows.
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie. (trailer inside)
Post by: Soren on October 18, 2014, 05:39:16 PM
Nah, Namco Bandai still only says "2015" for the Wii U version.
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie. (trailer inside) Bump: no info
Post by: Nile Boogie Returns on January 26, 2015, 07:19:00 PM
Question for those in the know or can speculate: If this game was canceled for PS360 due to those systems not having enough "power", why is it still coming to Wii U? Is there that big of a difference in power or did Nintendo put out cash for clunkers?



Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie. (trailer inside) Bump = no new info
Post by: Soren on January 26, 2015, 08:01:30 PM
Question for those in the know or can speculate: If this game was canceled for PS360 due to those systems not having enough "power", why is it still coming to Wii U?

Because the Wii U is more powerful than those consoles?

The best I can find is an article from a few years ago where they state that their plan was always to bring the game to all available platforms. Most likely they knew the game was going to get delayed far enough to allow the Playstation and Xbox versions to get bumped up to the new hardware.
Title: here's why
Post by: Nile Boogie Returns on January 31, 2015, 12:46:24 AM
Upon further review, it appears the Wii U is capable of simulating DirectX11. Mind you, I'm not talking natively but with a bit of work. For PS360, this is just straight up out of the question hence the reason for the cancelation. Many more secrets are to be uncovered, I go deeper!
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie but maybe not: Slightly New Info!!!!
Post by: BranDonk Kong on January 31, 2015, 01:42:34 AM
XBox 360 uses Direct X 9, PS3 (and PS4), like the Wii U, uses OpenGL. OpenGL is typically "faster" than DirectX, so it shouldn't really hang on simulating DX11 features (I never read that anywhere anyway), and if that was the case, then they never would have started working on a PS3 or 360 version of the game to begin with.
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie but maybe not: Slightly New Info!!!!
Post by: Nile Boogie Returns on January 31, 2015, 08:17:43 AM
This isn't the original article I read but I think it does ok. look over it and tell me what you think and where I might be misunderstanding some stuff (I do that a lot)


http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Wii-U-Memory-Bandwidth-GPU-More-Powerful-Than-We-Thought-62437-p2.html (http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Wii-U-Memory-Bandwidth-GPU-More-Powerful-Than-We-Thought-62437-p2.html)
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie but maybe not: Slightly New Info!!!!
Post by: Ceric on January 31, 2015, 10:10:38 AM
I can answer the last question in that that article.  No.
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie but maybe not: Slightly New Info!!!!
Post by: BranDonk Kong on January 31, 2015, 11:19:53 AM
I'm not saying that you're misunderstanding anything, just that the libraries used by Sony and Nintendo are typically faster than Direct X. Direct X is Microsoft's API, it is only used by Windows/Xbox products.
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie but maybe not: Slightly New Info!!!!
Post by: Ceric on January 31, 2015, 02:50:49 PM
The big thing is that DirectX is easier to work with by my understanding and the new version is suppose to be much more efficient.
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie but maybe not: Slightly New Info!!!!
Post by: Enner on May 04, 2015, 05:32:14 AM
Project CARS will be released this week for the PC, PS4, and XONE. It looks good. Hopefully Slightly Mad Studios will finally find glory after searching for it in Need for Speed: Shift and Shift 2: Unleashed.

Now, the Wii U version of Project CARS is still in the works as far as we know. Any bets on it coming out or being cancelled?
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie but maybe not: Slightly New Info!!!!
Post by: ShyGuy on May 04, 2015, 10:27:40 AM
Digital only.
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie but maybe not: Slightly New Info!!!!
Post by: Soren on May 04, 2015, 10:47:24 AM
SMS has been upfront about the development of the Wii U version. They updated their FAQ last month mentioning that the Wii U and Steam OS versions are still on the table and coming out this year.
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie but maybe not: Slightly New Info!!!!
Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 04, 2015, 02:08:42 PM
This seems interesting, but I'm not totally sold on the way they're doing the career mode. The main reason I like Gran Turismo or Forza is the RPG-like progression, starting at the bottom and working your way up to bigger races and better cars, and they're going a different way with this.
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie but maybe not: Slightly New Info!!!!
Post by: rlse9 on May 25, 2015, 11:32:40 PM
According to IGN the developers are having trouble getting the game to run well enough on the Wii U and are considering pushing the game back to Nintendo's next console.  Lame...
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie but maybe not: Slightly New Info!!!!
Post by: ShyGuy on May 26, 2015, 01:26:42 AM
23fps on Wii U? What engine is this using?
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie but maybe not: Slightly New Info!!!!
Post by: ObbyDent on May 26, 2015, 02:53:22 AM
The same engine that the Xbone was having trouble running on. I knew as soon as the Xbone was shitting itself trying to run PC, the Wii U was probably doomed.
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie but maybe not: Slightly New Info!!!!
Post by: Enner on May 26, 2015, 04:52:36 AM
Slightly Mad Studios have been using their own proprietary game engine since at least Need for Speed: Shift. It's disheartening that the low specifications of the Wii U have been difficult for the studio's vision of Project CARS, but not unexpected. Since Slightly Mad Studios seems to be hoping for some sort of hardware news from Nintendo at E3 2015, it would be best to make the cancellation of Project CARS for Wii U quick if the game's performance on the platform can't be adequate.
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie but maybe not: Slightly New Info!!!!
Post by: Soren on May 26, 2015, 12:24:19 PM
Yeah, this game's getting cancelled.
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie but maybe not: Slightly New Info!!!!
Post by: ShyGuy on May 26, 2015, 03:13:50 PM
Sounds. Like some poor planning on their part.



Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie but maybe not: Slightly New Info!!!!
Post by: Nile Boogie Returns on May 26, 2015, 07:46:00 PM
At first I say "Hmm that's disappointing" but if they can push it to 640p@30fps and turn the anti-aliasing off and let the chips fall.
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie but maybe not: Slightly New Info!!!!
Post by: nickmitch on May 26, 2015, 08:32:56 PM
We should've been waiting on this hammer to fall since the beginning.
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie but maybe not: Slightly New Info!!!!
Post by: Nile Boogie Returns on May 26, 2015, 08:53:13 PM
We should've been waiting on this hammer to fall since the beginning.

Most of thought the same thing about Watch Dogs as well. Too much work put in to drop this now. Nintendo may even assist if they deem it a wise investment.
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie but maybe not: Slightly New Info!!!!
Post by: nickmitch on May 26, 2015, 10:26:10 PM
You know, I almost forgot about that game.  Was it fun?
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie but maybe not: Slightly New Info!!!!
Post by: Ian Sane on June 01, 2015, 01:29:49 PM
Remember hardware specs don't matter.  I'm just getting hung up on graphics.  Yep, that's it.  It doesn't make it damn impossible to port a game from a platform with superior specs.  Nope, that's all stuff I made up to crap on Nintendo.

The fact that they want to bring it to the NX if possible shows that at least these guys are dealing with Nintendo in good faith.  They want their game on a Nintendo platform but are just running into technical limitations.  The conspiracy theory is that all third parties hate Nintendo because of some beef from 20 years ago.  You can't say that here.  They wanted to bring this game to the Wii U but couldn't do it and still want to bring it to Nintendo's audience.
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie but maybe not: Slightly New Info!!!!
Post by: Adrock on June 01, 2015, 02:28:46 PM
According to Ian Bell at Slightly Mad Studios (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-05-26-project-cars-wii-u-development-stalled-may-be-delayed-until-nx), "We could reach a fairly solid 30fps but it might take a hell of a lot of work." He didn't say it's impossible. He just doesn't want to keep working on the game if Nintendo is going to announce new hardware soon. The problem with that is Nintendo has already said it won't discuss NX again until next year. I suppose Bell is hoping Nintendo has some kind of closed doors meeting with third parties at E3 or something.

Slightly Mad wants Project Cars to run at 720p/30fps. The game is currently at 720p/23fps. Sounds like it could probably get the game to work on Wii U. Still, I respect a developer's artistic integrity. If Slightly Mad Studios doesn't think the game meets its expectations, I'd rather it cancel the game than release something it isn't proud of. This kind of reminds of when EA Canada didn't include online multiplayer in the Wii version of NBA Jam. It couldn't get the game to run at 60fps, something Mark Turmell (series creator) insisted on, at the time of release. If 720p/30fps is that important to Slightly Mad Studios, keep working on it or don't release the game. I wish more companies had that mindset.
Title: Re: Project Cars Wii U: This has to be a lie but maybe not: Slightly New Info!!!!
Post by: ymeegod on June 02, 2015, 02:47:35 AM
I think the thing that's most misleading was the developer claimed to have the WII U version up and running back in 2012 when people started to pledge for the game.  I personally don't bother with kickstarters because of this type of BS but a lot of people were "lied" to IMO.

Even a refund at this point in time is a slap in the face.  3+ years interest free?  Hell, maybe I'll start my own kickstarter game. :()