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Title: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: Steel Diver on November 13, 2013, 11:43:10 AM

Get ready for Miiverse posts begging for likes on your 3DS. 

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/35962

A system update coming to the 3DS is bringing Nintendo Network IDs to the handheld.

With NNIDs on the 3DS, the system will now share the same eShop balance with the Wii U. Meaning, if you put $10 on one shop, it will also be available on the other. 

The system update is also bringing Miiverse to the 3DS. This system update does not have a specific release date but will be coming sometime in December.

Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: Adrock on November 13, 2013, 11:50:31 AM
I'm sure there will be Negative Nancies saying, "Ugh, what took so long?" I'm just really happy that this happened. I can finally be Catsylvania on all of my future Nintendo things.
(http://i.imgur.com/8TL3ybV.jpg)
Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 13, 2013, 11:54:57 AM
"This is one small step for gamers, one GIANT leap for Nintendo" - BlackNMild2k1 Nov 13, 2013
Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: Ian Sane on November 13, 2013, 11:58:56 AM
We've talked about this for so long that I initially just glanced over the headline without paying attention to what it means.  Then I kind of did a double-take.

Good!  This is exactly how it should work!  And this kind of makes things current.  I figured they would get to this around the same time everyone else would move on to something else and just be perpetually behind.  Nintendo needs to make deliberate leaps regarding online gaming to catch up.
Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: EvilMario on November 13, 2013, 12:05:56 PM
It's a fine addition, although it's sad that something that should be a standard feature has to be celebrated when it happens on Nintendo platforms.


And we're still a long ways off from what I really want, which is cross platform purchasing and playing of Virtual Console games. Buying something like Legend of Zelda twice just to play it on my 3DS and Wii U doesn't make much sense to me at this point.
Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: Leo13 on November 13, 2013, 12:09:05 PM
Wait, how do you know the YouTube app is coming later this month. I didn't catch them saying a time at all. I walked away wondering if it's already up or coming later.
Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: Khushrenada on November 13, 2013, 12:18:44 PM
And we're still a long ways off from what I really want, which is cross platform purchasing and playing of Virtual Console games. Buying something like Legend of Zelda twice just to play it on my 3DS and Wii U doesn't make much sense to me at this point.

Unfortunately, that is a side effect of not having a unified account from the beginning. I think it is Nintendo not sure knowing how to handle that next thornier issue. If they do allow you to pay for the game once and then you can download it on to both systems, there will probably be a big uproar from people who have bought these games twice for different systems in the past. What do you do about those people? Give them refunds for all the stuff bought twice? Ignore them? And how many times will they expect to be able to redownload the same game?

Right now Apple allows you to download an item you bought to five different devices. After that, you have to pay for it again. I would think Nintendo would want to also impose this sort of limit to ensure future sales on future devices. However, does that mean the number will be 3 installations of a software before paying again? 2? 4?

Its a first step and a welcome first step but we still don't know where it is headed or if they will just stand pat now and see how this turns out.
Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: tendoboy1984 on November 13, 2013, 12:21:08 PM
According to GoNintendo, you can do cross-platform purchases with the new unified account. :-)
Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 13, 2013, 12:35:40 PM
According to GoNintendo, you can do cross-platform purchases with the new unified account. :-)

So you're saying that if you put money in the account, then you can buy games on either system..!!

ummm, yeah, that would be the purpose of a unified account and mentioned in the OP.

now when you can cross-platform play (VC games at the very least), then you have something additional to get excited about.
Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 13, 2013, 12:37:30 PM
According to GoNintendo, you can do cross-platform purchases with the new unified account. :-)

So you're saying that if you put money in the account, then you can buy games on either system..!!

ummm, yeah, that would be the purpose of a unified account and mentioned in the OP.

now when you can cross-platform play (VC games at the very least), then you have something additional to get excited about.

edit: unless you meant that you can buy 3DS games from your Wii U eShop, or vice versa, then that would be some new news.
Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: tendoboy1984 on November 13, 2013, 12:47:44 PM
So now that we can use our Nintendo Network ID's on the 3DS, does that mean unified friend lists also? No more friend codes, right?
Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: Ceric on November 13, 2013, 12:48:05 PM
Hey its the update they been promising us since BEFORE THE WII U RELEASED.
Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: Adrock on November 13, 2013, 12:55:37 PM
So now that we can use our Nintendo Network ID's on the 3DS, does that mean unified friend lists also? No more friend codes, right?
I read that's right. It should combine your friend lists. I didn't watch the Nintendo Direct yet so I'm not sure the article I read is accurate.
Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 13, 2013, 01:31:54 PM
Hey its the update they been promising us since BEFORE THE WII U RELEASED.

Baby Steps. We'll get there.... eventually. ;)
Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: NeoThunder on November 13, 2013, 01:41:08 PM
So will it merge your friends list then?
Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: Stratos on November 13, 2013, 02:13:43 PM
And we're still a long ways off from what I really want, which is cross platform purchasing and playing of Virtual Console games. Buying something like Legend of Zelda twice just to play it on my 3DS and Wii U doesn't make much sense to me at this point.

Unfortunately, that is a side effect of not having a unified account from the beginning. I think it is Nintendo not sure knowing how to handle that next thornier issue. If they do allow you to pay for the game once and then you can download it on to both systems, there will probably be a big uproar from people who have bought these games twice for different systems in the past. What do you do about those people? Give them refunds for all the stuff bought twice? Ignore them? And how many times will they expect to be able to redownload the same game?

Right now Apple allows you to download an item you bought to five different devices. After that, you have to pay for it again. I would think Nintendo would want to also impose this sort of limit to ensure future sales on future devices. However, does that mean the number will be 3 installations of a software before paying again? 2? 4?

Its a first step and a welcome first step but we still don't know where it is headed or if they will just stand pat now and see how this turns out.


It should be like Amazon or iTunes. You have a limited number of devices you can authorize and if you want to add a new device after that just de-authorize an old one on the list. No repaying for digital purchases ever.
Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: KITT 10K on November 13, 2013, 02:27:54 PM
Wii U and 3DS unified accounts?! About damn time!
Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 13, 2013, 02:45:52 PM
Now that the wallet for the Wii U & 3DS are unified, I wonder if Nintendo will bring over the $14 stuck on my Wii account that is technically on my Wii U. I would spend it if I could access it, but I'm not buying anything else for the Wii, especially not digitally.
Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: ShyGuy on November 13, 2013, 03:14:33 PM
The ID is still tied to hardware, right?rights
Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: motang on November 13, 2013, 04:17:32 PM
This is so awesome! Can't wait!   :cool;
Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: Griffinclaw on November 13, 2013, 04:34:03 PM
The ID is still tied to hardware, right?rights


I think so. I hope not, but I think so. I just wish they would get around to letting me do a Wii U to Wii U transfer. I get sad staring at the Zelda edition I have, that's still sitting in the box. I haven't even registered the game/book codes it came with :(
Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: Razorkid on November 13, 2013, 04:35:27 PM
The ID is still tied to hardware, right?rights


Not necessarily. For example, if you sell your WiiU you can erase your NNID from it and reuse it on another system.  You can also still access your miiverse stuff with your NNID online without a console.
Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: ShyGuy on November 13, 2013, 05:40:35 PM
The ID is still tied to hardware, right?rights


Not necessarily. For example, if you sell your WiiU you can erase your NNID from it and reuse it on another system.  You can also still access your miiverse stuff with your NNID online without a console.

That's cool. Does it keep track of your eshop purchases as well?
Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: Griffinclaw on November 13, 2013, 05:59:55 PM
The ID is still tied to hardware, right?rights

Not necessarily. For example, if you sell your WiiU you can erase your NNID from it and reuse it on another system.  You can also still access your miiverse stuff with your NNID online without a console.

That's cool. Does it keep track of your eshop purchases as well?

That's the part I wasn't sure about, sorry for my butting-in earlier. I think they're still tied to the hardware they're purchased on. If someone can prove me wrong, PLEASE do, lol.
Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: Mop it up on November 13, 2013, 06:27:24 PM
This sounded nice at first, but after thinking about it some more it doesn't really do much. Stuff like VC games are still limited to the one platform, so it's just a shared money balance which, for me, doesn't really matter. Second, if the unified friend list is true, this is actually a bad thing if the limit is still 100. Then we could have only 100 friends between 3DS and Wii U instead of the 200 we have now. Not all the people I have added own both.

It is a step in the right direction, and it's good to see as I didn't think it would happen. But I hope things because more unified in the future.
Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 13, 2013, 07:25:50 PM
I'm pretty sure it's the first step of many towards an actual unified account system.

This update happens next month (?)

end of 1st quarter may see expansion on the idea, and maybe by end of 2014 we will have all the pieces in place to actually call it a Unified NNID Account.

Nintendo is a turtle in this game. They dance to their own beat, and usually several songs behind, but they'll get there eventually. Just can't say if all of us will still be around to care by the time they do...
Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: Spak-Spang on November 13, 2013, 08:49:09 PM
I think if Nintendo decides to allow one purchase for all systems in the future Nintendo could address the issue multiple ways.


1) Just ignore the issue...you got to play the games on both system a year before anyone else...not the best idea.


2) Give them a perk.  You can upgrade all your Wii purchased virtual console games for free on the Wii U when they are available.  A nice perk...it gives you value that could be much higher than your previous purchases.


3) Give a reimbursement up to a certain amount for each unit console.  This is tricky.  You can not give a reimbursement for the whole amount, because that could get costly fast...but if you make the amount too high it is costly because some gamers would not have purchased that much.  If you make it too low gamers might complain.  If you do tiers what happens if you just miss a new tier.


I think the perk idea is the best...but we do not even know if Nintendo will do this.  Another option is for Nintendo to just wait until Next, Next generation and handle it then.

Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: Adrock on November 13, 2013, 09:05:30 PM
I thought about this before and I have a pretty fair solution for this issue. It's part of a larger topic I've been meaning to post in the Nintendo Console Discussion board that I've been too lazy to type up.
Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: UncleBob on November 13, 2013, 09:11:19 PM
I won a bet here, right?
Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 13, 2013, 09:14:53 PM
I won a bet here, right?

If it's the one I'm thinking of you're going to need to complain to Aaron as to not being able to collect on it.
Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: Kytim89 on November 13, 2013, 09:18:53 PM
This is a giant step forward for Nintendo. Now all they need to do is offer Wii and DS games on the eShop, allow Paypal integration, and offer humble bundles for games on eShop and bring the entire Virtual Console to the Wii U and 3DS and all will be good.
Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: UncleBob on November 13, 2013, 09:46:10 PM
I won a bet here, right?

If it's the one I'm thinking of you're going to need to complain to Aaron as to not being able to collect on it.

I couldn't really remember who I even made it with. ;)
Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: StrawHousePig on November 13, 2013, 09:49:44 PM
Ugh, what took so long? :p

I'm like BNM. When is my Wii account going to be unified so I can spend my lost funds? I want my $2! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iayLBI7nsE0)
Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: UncleBob on November 13, 2013, 09:52:24 PM
I want my $300+.. (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=41273.0)
Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: StrawHousePig on November 13, 2013, 10:11:57 PM
I used the eShop once to try it out and then not again until this issue of mine was resolved - How do I get what I pay you for? | Nintendo Tech Forums (http://techforums.nintendo.com/message/43159)

Holding onto monies like that is serious bullcrap. I'm looking at you, Steam...
Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: pokepal148 on November 17, 2013, 02:05:11 AM
I used the eShop once to try it out and then not again until this issue of mine was resolved - How do I get what I pay you for? | Nintendo Tech Forums (http://techforums.nintendo.com/message/43159)

Holding onto monies like that is serious bullcrap. I'm looking at you, Steam...
Are you complaining about the sales tax or the random cents being left in your account?
Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: pokepal148 on November 17, 2013, 02:11:42 AM
Oh I forgot Tj Spyke may have lost that bet :D
Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: nickmitch on November 18, 2013, 12:35:32 AM
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m74/nickmitch889/Its-about-damn-time_zps8b22504e.gif?t=1384752915)
Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: tendoboy1984 on November 18, 2013, 04:36:17 PM
Too bad Nintendo is blocking message sharing and friend requests from 3DS Miiverse. GoNintendo confirmed this a few days ago.
Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: Kytim89 on November 18, 2013, 07:45:44 PM
Too bad Nintendo is blocking message sharing and friend requests from 3DS Miiverse. GoNintendo confirmed this a few days ago.

Would you rather predators to be able to take advantage of the system?
Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: Oblivion on November 18, 2013, 08:41:37 PM
Too bad Nintendo is blocking message sharing and friend requests from 3DS Miiverse. GoNintendo confirmed this a few days ago.

Would you rather predators to be able to take advantage of the system?


That must mean you don't support Xbox Live, PSN, Facebook, Twitter, Tumblr, Reddit, forums, or ****, pretty much the whole fucking internet then.


Jesus, I hate that alarmist attitude.
Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: UncleBob on November 18, 2013, 09:20:24 PM
...or Wii, Wii U...
Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: Oblivion on November 18, 2013, 10:38:24 PM
Now that I think about it, was Kytim being sarcastic? I'm not good at picking that up in text.
Title: Re: 3DS System Update Brings Miiverse and Unified Account Between the 3DS and Wii U
Post by: Kytim89 on November 19, 2013, 02:24:17 AM
Now that I think about it, was Kytim being sarcastic? I'm not good at picking that up in text.

I was being sarcastic towards Tendoboy.