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Post by: BlkPaladin on June 12, 2003, 10:40:59 AM
Lost Kingdoms- RT
SoA:L- Turned based.
Post by: Ian Sane on June 12, 2003, 11:11:08 AM
I find that in most games real time is usually superior to turn based. I would much rather play a game than watch it. Most RPGs put me to sleep because of the amount of inactivity. However that doesn't mean in all situations real time is better. Real time for the sake of real time is stupid if the game works better with turn based gameplay. I think that turn based RPGs would just be a lot more interesting if they included more real time interaction. It often makes sense for the battles to be turn based but not necessarily everything. My favourite RPG is Super Mario RPG because when I'm not battling I can move virtually anywhere in the game and I can jump and interact with my surroundings. Compare this to most RPGs where the background is a prerendered picture and there's a lot of restriction towhere you can go and what you can interact with. Most RPGs feel like you push a button and then the character does something after a pause instead of doing it as the button is pushed. The ideal situation is something that basically plays like Zelda but with experience points and turn based battling.
The worst is something like active time battles where they take the worst features of both systems and combine them. What's the advantage to having turn based fighting when I can't stop and think about what I'm doing? The whole advantage to turn based fighting is that I don't have to worry about enemies beating my ass between attacks.
Post by: Cube323 on June 12, 2003, 01:05:38 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 12, 2003, 01:09:28 PM
Vintage Seiken Densetsu (screw the psx game) WORD UP!
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Post by: Termin8Anakin on June 12, 2003, 05:19:31 PM
I play Final Fantasy, and the battles are *yawn*..so..*Termin8 falls asleep*
*wakes up*
Sorry bout that.
Pokemon is the only exception for me so far.
But I still wish it was in real time.
The only way you could make turn based battles in real time is if you can call out (or press buttons) to shout your commands in real time.
Like I've said in the Pokemon threads, being able to quickly counter your enemy's attacks or dodge them is sooo much better than having the computer say whether it hit or missed.
Post by: DRJ on June 12, 2003, 05:27:51 PM
) Turn based can get boring at times, but real time games where you run up to someone hit and dodge a few times and move on (ala Diablo0 can get boring too.
Post by: Termin8Anakin on June 12, 2003, 05:43:14 PM
I think Pokemon would work great as a real time RPG.
Post by: Grey Ninja on June 12, 2003, 06:07:14 PM
Tales of Phantasia was pretty fine though, and that was real time...
Post by: BlkPaladin on June 12, 2003, 08:24:39 PM
I accually prefer games that accually blend the two, like Star Ocean.
Post by: rpglover on June 13, 2003, 05:07:04 AM
games like zelda need to be realtime because of the nature of the series
i dont mind turnbased battle systems like ff or skies, but i like when the blend the two as well as blkpaladin said
star ocean is good, as is the tales series
but a battle system i adore and think is one of the best created is the grandia series battle system- if you played any grandia games you know what i mean- it mixes turn based and real time
other good battle systems are chrono trigger's and especially (again one of my favorites) valkyrie profile
real time gives you more control but some rpg battle systems give you good depth as well
Post by: Marcus Arillius on June 13, 2003, 05:23:58 AM
However, when it comes to turn-based or ATB, I prefer turn-based because you only have to wait for your enemy to make their attack in turn-based games while in ATB you have to wait for the counter to drain......boring.
Post by: oohhboy on June 13, 2003, 06:48:47 AM
My favarite type would be the tatical RPGs. Well most arn't considered true RPGs, they have all the battles with out wandering the over world all the time. An excellent exampl of this would be Squares Front Mission 3 on the PSX. Front Missions pervious incrantions were lacklaster and unrefined.
Post by: KDR_11k on June 13, 2003, 07:51:43 AM
Grandia (2) was nice, but too easy. I didn't notice much of a challenge, though it was fun to counter ALL of Tio-clone's attacks.
But all in all I prefer real time. You can make more interesting boss battles and actually evade an attack.
What I really hate are zoom-battles, especially the random kind! They break your flow, they need unnecessary time and you always try to keep movements as straight as possible to keep the number of fights low.
Post by: WuTangTurtle on June 13, 2003, 08:17:12 AM
Second, Pokemon would be better as a turn based game for GBA anywayz. These are some of my ideas to improve the current Pokemon GBA games though. First, adding a defense option like when one person is choosing an attack the other could select a counter such as if a mankey tried a special punch then a fearow could use whirlwind and have a 25% chance of countering the attack for example. Or if a Raichu used agility and it was able to work as a counter to a charizards flamethrower attack then both players choose a direction of attack or counter and if the directions they choose are the same then Raichu is hurt and if the directions are different then Charizard misses. And then have the terrain effect the fights better such as if water is near by some pokemon can't try to counter in the direction of the water and others have an increase in countering or an added attack power.
Kinda neat idea i think anywayz. what do u guys think?
Patend Pending, lol
Post by: oohhboy on June 13, 2003, 08:27:53 AM
Post by: oohhboy on June 13, 2003, 08:30:22 AM
Front Mission is a Tatical RPG because you could upgrad your mechs to urber levels and your charaters learn how to use thier weapons more effectively along with random spell-like effects.
Some say WC is an RPG, but it isn't. It is a RTS with a vetern system for heros.
Post by: Grey Ninja on June 13, 2003, 03:19:27 PM
Zelda is an Adventure Game, NOT an RPG
Final Fantasy Tactics/Advance Wars/Fire Emblem are SRPGs, and bear few similarities to traditional RPGs.
Diablo is an RPG... but not of the console sort.
Post by: WuTangTurtle on June 14, 2003, 12:59:47 AM
Post by: Mario on June 14, 2003, 05:19:02 AM
And whatever Advance Wars is, thats my favourite. I like both of them actually, Pokemon is a great turned based game and Diablo 2 is a great real time game. I like all RPG's, as long as thier good.
Post by: rpglover on June 14, 2003, 05:23:43 AM
in the ogre battle series and final fantasy tactics and fire emblem you can upgrade your classes and hit points
in zelda you have heart containers and such- i consider it more of an adventure game, but i still call it an action rpg
advance wars is a turn based strategy game only- you dont upgrade any of your stats, you just make more units
Post by: BlkPaladin on June 14, 2003, 06:13:17 AM
Post by: Mario on June 14, 2003, 06:37:10 AM
Post by: Grey Ninja on June 14, 2003, 02:15:42 PM
Wave Race - Racing
Metroid Prime - First Person Adventure
Pikmin - Real Time Strategy
Pokemon Channel - Simulation
Animal Crossing - Simulation
Wario Ware - Compilation.
That's my take on it.
Post by: Bloodworth on June 14, 2003, 03:10:28 PM
