Gaming Forums => General Gaming => Topic started by: ejamer on September 09, 2013, 09:51:34 AM
Title: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: ejamer on September 09, 2013, 09:51:34 AM
Wow, now that's an interesting piece of news.
It's covered on a bunch of websites, and more information is rolling out slowly since the reveal this morning, so I'll assume people get details elsewhere... but the short story is a set-top box that plays Vita games (and compatible PSP/PSOne Classics, minus any games with touch-based controls) on your TV for a sweet $100.
Sony fanboys are pretty much creaming themselves at the announcement, but I've got some questions before getting too excited.
Which games offer full screen video? With PSP TV-out features, there was some serious letterboxing going on for PSP games while PSOne Classics were full-screen. Hopefully Vita TV won't suffer the same fate.
Will touch support be added later when PS4 controllers are available?
What are the plans for video steaming? Netflix capability alone would almost justify the cost of this box in our household - surely Sony understands the value in making this box a cheap steaming option.
How long will it take to improve Vita backwards compatibility? Right now there are more PSP/PSOne Classic games that aren't compatible than the other way around. Sony hasn't made quick progress on making old content playable.
When will it get released in North America?
Despite my reservations, this is a pretty cool bit of news. Anyone else excited to hear more about the new hardware?
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: Ceric on September 09, 2013, 10:32:23 AM
First off. F U Sony. Seriously you couldn't have announced this stuff Saturday before we recorded NFR 23.
Now that is out of the way. I think this is a clever move by Sony. I also think that it should have been released last Year.
Honestly if its DLNA Compliant and does Netflix. I have a use for this. Well, did have a use for it. Now not so much with the PS4 coming out. I'll move my PS3 but I did have a use for it.
Will touch support be added later when PS4 controllers are available?
Thats a big question I had as well. I would surely hope so since its suppose to be able to stream PS4 Games plus it could mimick the Vita's own touch system.
Now another question would be if this ups the bar enough to have Nintendo make a 3DS Player for WiiU. This is also an interesting solution to the 1 PS4 Multiple TVs problem but if its your main Media hub you probably still be SOL when you want to play in another room. At least you can still Stream Netflix and play PSN/Vita game.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: Hey Einstein! on September 09, 2013, 10:42:57 AM
When I saw it I couldn't help thinking of the 0DS mock up http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18yhov1wf0ysopng/original.png (http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18yhov1wf0ysopng/original.png)
I love how Nintendo and Sony are now locked in a race to downgrade their portable hardware as much s possible. I guess after getting rid of the screen and battery the next thing to go will be the controls.
BUT SERIOUSLY: I think it's a actually a brilliant idea for a budget console. It's similar to the android micro consoles but from a house hold name in consumer electronics and with decent controls plus an infinitely better software library (not counting emulators of course).
If you've got PS+ and are stacking up the Vita games in your download library but don't have the actuall console this would be a very cheap way of enjoying a lot of pretty good titles. There is a list somewhere of what games will be compatible (sounds like the lack of micro phone and touch is here to stay). Add that to the PS4 remote play function and I think it's very interesting gadget. Heck there must be a small market for screen capture enthusiasts alone.
I doubt it'll be that successful though. People aren't queuing up to play the Vita as it is and the price of PS3 keeps falling. I know I'd rather have access to the PS3 library then the Vita's. And I don't think there is any evidence of micro consoles doing well outside their kick starter campaigns yet.
It'll certainly be interesting to watch this play out.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: Ceric on September 09, 2013, 10:46:35 AM
... I guess after getting rid of the screen and battery the next thing to go will be the controls. ...
To late. Vita TV doesn't have controllers of its own. Danny Biven confirmed their patching in the PS4 controller and it currently uses the PS3 Controller.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: ejamer on September 09, 2013, 10:58:56 AM
... It's similar to the android micro consoles ...
Everyone is making this comparison, but I'm not entirely sold on it being an "Ouya Killer" like people are saying... it's targeting a different market. In my mind the Ouya and other android micro consoles are for people who want to tinker with PC-on-TV features, create and/or publish their own content, and have a geeky little time-waster. The PS Vita TV is more of a streaming box with real gaming attached. If successful, I could see this being a "Roku Killer" much more than an "Ouya Killer"... although accessibility will probably end up being key and not including a cheap remote in the $100 package seems odd.
Maybe I'm way off on this call though.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: BranDonk Kong on September 09, 2013, 11:14:12 AM
Similar to an Android console except you don't get a gigantic selection of $2-5 games, or make your own. I don't see it as any anything killer.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: Adrock on September 09, 2013, 11:24:26 AM
The idea of playing a handheld's library on a television is intriguing except Vita TV doesn't play all Vita games, notably those that use the touchscreen and rear touchpad. Not sure how Sony could get around that. Regardless, that alone makes this useless to me.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: broodwars on September 09, 2013, 11:31:11 AM
The Vita TV confuses me as a Vita owner. Yes, I would love to play some of my Vita games on a TV, but most of the ones I would play there have at least some touchscreen capability so they're not supported. At first I thought this thing might be some sort of signal booster for the Vita to better support remote/online play (my biggest problem with the Vita), but it's not going to do that.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: Adrock on September 09, 2013, 11:36:17 AM
I wonder if you can use Vita as a controller. I mean, $100 is a lot just play games on a TV for a handheld you ready own, but it'd be a nice option.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: Ceric on September 09, 2013, 12:09:42 PM
Any Vita owner is not the target market for this. Plain and simple.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: Adrock on September 09, 2013, 12:15:50 PM
Didn't say they were. I'm not even sure how you came to that conclusion. I said being able to use a Vita as a controller would be a nice option. And I'd think it would allow all Vita games to be playable on it.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: Oblivion on September 09, 2013, 01:18:53 PM
I'm a Vita owner. I want this. Hell, I'm thinking about selling the Vita I just got two months ago.
Also: they announced that touch screen and back panel commands can be mapped to the L3/R3 buttons and a on-screen cursor similar to Dragon's Crown's cursor.
Didn't say they were. I'm not even sure how you came to that conclusion. I said being able to use a Vita as a controller would be a nice option. And I'd think it would allow all Vita games to be playable on it.
More in response to Broodwars.
Their are Vita owners that are going to want this. Their just frosting. Much like 3DS owners that want a 2DS.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: Oblivion on September 09, 2013, 02:46:53 PM
But the Vita TV compliments the Vita and PS4 more so than the 2DS compliments the 3DS. Actually, I'd go so far to say that the 2DS is accomplishing the opposite of what the Vita TV is doing.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: Ceric on September 09, 2013, 02:48:53 PM
Its a Vita using the TV as a display. If you own a Vita and a PS4 the only thing you gain is a streaming box and Vita on the TV.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: broodwars on September 09, 2013, 02:55:12 PM
Its a Vita using the TV as a display. If you own a Vita and a PS4 the only thing you gain is a streaming box and Vita on the TV.
Which if you actually want to use remote play could be invaluable. Just think if you didn't have to move your PS4 to use it as your BluRay player in your bedroom. You could just stream it over to your bedroom TV. I could see you having a use for that.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: Oblivion on September 09, 2013, 03:00:28 PM
Its a Vita using the TV as a display. If you own a Vita and a PS4 the only thing you gain is a streaming box and Vita on the TV.
Um, that's exactly what I'm talking about. It's a streaming box (which already cost around $100) plus it plays Vita games, PSP games from the store, and PS1 games? AND it can stream PS4 games from anywhere in the house? And actually, you can just bring the Vita TV to a friends house instead of your PS4 and stream it like that too.
Much better than a sub-par 3DS that only benefits young children. This product benefits anyone who buys it, from those that don't own a Sony system to someone balls-deep into the Sony architecture.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: Ceric on September 09, 2013, 03:06:38 PM
If you DON'T own a Vita their is good value here. If you DO own a Vita what is the compelling $100 argument?
What is stopping an individual from just using the Vita they already own? What is the 2-3 game argument here for current Vita Owners?
A 3DS owner who buys a 2DS is buying a variant. That's what their really doing. A Vita Owner buying a Vita TV is also buying a not as Stand Alone Variant.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: Oblivion on September 09, 2013, 06:06:02 PM
It's a streaming box that can play on the **** one owns on the Vita on their TV in HD. I, on one hand, want to play my Vita games on my TV at home. When I'm not home? On the Vita itself. Especially when I have PS+ and I can easily use the cloud saves function to go from device and device without stopping.
What the flying **** does a 2DS give a current 3DS owner they already don't have? Enough of the fanboyism here. This is fucking ridiculous. As little (in your opinion) that the Vita TV gives to current Vita owners, it's ludicrous to think that the 2DS gives ANYTHING to 3DS owners.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: Adrock on September 09, 2013, 07:45:31 PM
Also: they announced that touch screen and back panel commands can be mapped to the L3/R3 buttons and a on-screen cursor similar to Dragon's Crown's cursor.
Also: they announced that touch screen and back panel commands can be mapped to the L3/R3 buttons and a on-screen cursor similar to Dragon's Crown's cursor.
I'm far from knowledgeable on Sony hardware, but can't the Vita already connect to a television? I know the PSP could...
It can't. Sadly.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: SixthAngel on September 09, 2013, 10:22:02 PM
This seems worthless. It is too expensive as a streaming box and it is terrible as a gaming box.
If i want to stream Chromecast is smaller and is 35 bucks.
If I want to play games this won't even let me play all the games available for the Vita. It doesn't have the library of the 360, ps3 or Wii to make it worth picking up.It apparently only allows 2 controllers to connect throwing out a cheap party game machine. It also still has all the negatives of the Vita, mainly that PS3 does everything it does and more.
It's cheap but not cheap enough to be choice for streaming and people who want to play games would rather pay a little more to get a good gaming machine. This seems like its hitting a spot nearly no one wants.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: Oblivion on September 09, 2013, 10:31:18 PM
This seems worthless. It is too expensive as a streaming box and it is terrible as a gaming box.
If i want to stream Chromecast is smaller and is 35 bucks.
If I want to play games this won't even let me play all the games available for the Vita. It doesn't have the library of the 360, ps3 or Wii to make it worth picking up.It apparently only allows 2 controllers to connect throwing out a cheap party game machine. It also still has all the negatives of the Vita, mainly that PS3 does everything it does and more.
It's cheap but not cheap enough to be choice for streaming and people who want to play games would rather pay a little more to get a good gaming machine. This seems like its hitting a spot nearly no one wants.
Yet if you go to some Vita forums or r/vita everyone wants this. Go figure.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: SixthAngel on September 09, 2013, 10:49:44 PM
Just found out you need to spend $150 to get one with a controller. The 100 buck version is for people who have PS3s already?
The $100 one also only has 1 GB of storage and the 150 as 8 GB. Get ready to buy some overpriced proprietary Sony accessories.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: Oblivion on September 09, 2013, 10:52:23 PM
Who the **** doesn't have a DS3 who wants to buy this? Get over yourself.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: SixthAngel on September 09, 2013, 11:02:17 PM
It doesn't play because there are extremely heavy touch games that can't be done with the dualshock. But they aren't worth playing anyway. :P: :
I read that it literally doesn't play some Vita games, as in those games won't function, not that they simply aren't worth playing. I probably wouldn't be too interested in those games anyway, but out of principle, I'd personally rather get an actual Vita. I just don't like the idea that it can't play all the games and more games may come out that I can't play. I prefer 100% compatibility even if playing on a TV is enticing. I'm still waiting for more games I want to play so a 3000 model with even better battery life and a price drop is probably the path I'm taking. Maybe Sony will have a PS4 redesign by then and pack them together. A girl can dream...
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And they do have plans to release it outside Japan, but Japan has a timed exclusivity for a few months after launch.
I can't find the article that says they have no plans to release it internationally. I was dicking around at work and was just reading all the Vita TV articles that have all the same basic info so it could be any of those. Right now, I've read that Sony "has not announced plans" to release it internationally which means they might though that's hardly a confirmation. I'll just wait though I expect an announcement for other territories.
I feel like launching Vita TV in Japan first makes less sense than anywhere else in the world. Hasn't their gaming culture transitioned mostly toward portables? If Vita wasn't really selling well, what makes Sony think a Vita tethered to a TV will sell better?
Who the **** doesn't have a DS3 who wants to buy this? Get over yourself.
Dude, chill. Certainly Sony thinks there are people out there who would buy Vita TV though don't also have a Dual Shock 3 if they're offering a bundle with a Dual Shock 3.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: nickmitch on September 09, 2013, 11:47:48 PM
I honestly don't get this. It's PSVita for your TV? And the PSV was basically a portable PS3? So, it's a mini-mini PS3? There ARE Vita games that I wanna play, but I still don't know. I have enough game machines hooked up to my TV as it is.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: UncleBob on September 10, 2013, 12:01:53 AM
Enough of the fanboyism here. This is fucking ridiculous.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: Oblivion on September 10, 2013, 12:14:00 AM
Those are two separate quotes in two separate contexts. You'd make a great mud-slinging politician, Unclebob.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: UncleBob on September 10, 2013, 12:18:21 AM
You're complaining about the "fanboyism" of folks on a Nintendo forum for not getting excited over a Sony product while using what I'm sure are totally unbiased opinions of folks who hang out on Sony forums (and not just Sony forums, but Vita forums...) to support your viewpoint.
I'm glad that they're two separate quotes, because if you had seriously said them both, one right after another, it would have been even more pathetic.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: Oblivion on September 10, 2013, 12:19:31 AM
Take a look at any comment section that isn't a fucking Nintendo fansite. ****, man, it was a fucking example.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: UncleBob on September 10, 2013, 12:22:50 AM
If I look at virtually any comment section on any site that isn't a Nintendo fansite, I'll find tons of people saying "Nintendo sucks, Sony/Microsoft rocks".
Man, you sure did show me.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: Oblivion on September 10, 2013, 12:25:42 AM
What's the problem here? It couldn't occur to you that JUST MAYBE, Nintendo does suck? I don't see what point you're trying to make.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: UncleBob on September 10, 2013, 12:26:44 AM
If you believe Nintendo sucks, why do you spend so much time on a "Nintendo Fansite"?
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: Oblivion on September 10, 2013, 12:29:36 AM
I still don't know what point you're trying to make. Ian Sane still comes here. Ask him. I'm still here because I never really realized that Nintendo sucked until I told you two minutes ago.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: UncleBob on September 10, 2013, 12:32:55 AM
Ian doesn't think Nintendo sucks - he simply thinks they can be better than they are. There's a huge difference between the two.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: Oblivion on September 10, 2013, 12:35:03 AM
I feel the same way. However, as of this post, I feel as if what they are doing on both systems is "suck-ish". The 3DS to a lesser degree than the Wii U.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: UncleBob on September 10, 2013, 12:56:05 AM
Another major difference with Ian is when people disagree with him, he doesn't go off on those "****ing fanboys"...
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: Oblivion on September 10, 2013, 12:58:55 AM
He's also a mature adult. I am not one of those things.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: UncleBob on September 10, 2013, 01:04:28 AM
Really? We hadn't noticed.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: Oblivion on September 10, 2013, 01:08:05 AM
Stop being a douche. I wonder why people like you are even mods.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: SixthAngel on September 10, 2013, 01:09:27 AM
Well this went to hell.
I really see no appeal. If you have a ps3 it already streams everything and you can play its huge library as well as all the games it shares with Vita.
If you don't have a ps3 it costs 150 dollars (50 below a ps3) and way above a streaming device.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: UncleBob on September 10, 2013, 01:11:38 AM
Don't get mad when I agree with you.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: Spak-Spang on September 10, 2013, 02:16:52 AM
I think the appeal is for people like me...that might want to use the service for steaming media and play some classic games or indie games. However, I would rather get something like an Xbox 360 for that. Since the PS3 and Xbox 360 are both more powerful than the Vita...at least I think they are.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: Kytim89 on September 10, 2013, 03:07:56 AM
The new Killzone and Dragon's Crown have convinced me to buy a (used) Vita. The only issue that I have is those expensive memory cards. Sony passed up an opprotunity to redeem itself by adding SD card support to the new version of the Vita. Hell, they need to offer third party solutions to the current Vita memory cards. Overall, I wish that Sony would implement a streaming service for the Vita that allowed PS@ and PS3 games to be played on the go, and possibly remakes of games for those consoles on the Vita.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: ejamer on September 10, 2013, 07:06:35 AM
I really see no appeal. If you have a ps3 it already streams everything and you can play its huge library as well as all the games it shares with Vita.
If you don't have a ps3 it costs 150 dollars (50 below a ps3) and way above a streaming device.
You might not see the appeal, but others do.
I agree about pricing - $100 for a decent video streaming box isn't that expensive or unusual, but not including a remote of any sort at that price is a bit misleading. DualShock controllers aren't that expensive if you look around and/or buy used... but the difference between $100 and $150 is significant for this type of hardware. If Sony found a way to include a remote (maybe for video only) at the $100 price point that would be a huge addition.
But games are a great value add, and really set this box apart from other streaming options. While you might not be impressed with the library Vita does have an increasing number of solid exclusives and a nice (limited but growing) back catalog of supported PSOne Classics.
Being part of the PlayStation ecosystem also makes it an easy sell for many people. If you already own games on PSN (or for Vita) then you have stuff to play immediately; if you already have a DualShock controller then the initial buy-in is lower; if you plan get a PS4 then the Vita TV offers some cool extra options for a second screen.
Finally, comparing it to systems that are older and about to have support cut off isn't really fair. This system has a library of games available now and will continue to be supported in the future. It also is still significantly cheaper than any option you mentioned except the SD, non-HDMI compatible Wii.
There is a market for this product. You might not be part of that market, and I have no idea how many people actually are... but it does exist.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: Ceric on September 10, 2013, 09:31:26 AM
Though I will say that if it only supports HDMI that it is partially hindering the market for it. Your non-main TV is normally your old TV.
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Post by: Oblivion on September 10, 2013, 11:49:31 AM
Not always. At work when I talk to people they are always buying a 22"-32" for their bedroom or guest room. In their living room? A 40"-60".
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Post by: Stogi on September 10, 2013, 12:12:41 PM
So this is pretty much the GB player except that some games are accessible?
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: Oblivion on September 10, 2013, 12:13:55 PM
Nah. It can also stream PS4 games. If you have a good enough internet connection, that means two PS4's basically.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: Ceric on September 10, 2013, 12:36:35 PM
Nah. It can also stream PS4 games. If you have a good enough internet connection, that means two PS4's basically.
No it means a PS4 can support 2 different TVs. I seriously doubt that if my wife is using the PS4 for Netflix in the Living Room and I go to play Knack in the bedroom that the system will let me even though I'm sure Netflix is a nothing app for the PS4 especially if it can tap into the Streaming hardware.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: Oblivion on September 10, 2013, 01:17:16 PM
No, bud, you're wrong. They showed off that feature in the fucking commercial for the thing.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: Ceric on September 10, 2013, 01:31:26 PM
No, bud, you're wrong. They showed off that feature in the fucking commercial for the thing.
What part I don't remember seeing it.
IF it can stream 2 Different PS4 Activities at the same time thats pretty impressive and makes me wonder how much of the PS4 is really available to developers.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: ejamer on September 10, 2013, 01:42:12 PM
Though I will say that if it only supports HDMI that it is partially hindering the market for it. Your non-main TV is normally your old TV.
Ooh... Good point. Our house is this way.
But I'd bet that people who are early adopters for PS4 would be more likely to have secondary TVs with HDMI support. For people like us, it would probably get set up on the main TV anyway. So maybe not a huge problem, although it certainly will affect people who are interested in the hardware a low-cost gaming/streaming solution.
No, bud, you're wrong. They showed off that feature in the fucking commercial for the thing.
Really? That would be a huge selling point for people buying a PS4 in my opinion.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: Ceric on September 10, 2013, 01:48:15 PM
Ok, I know the part of the commercial your talking about.
The family is watching Netflix on the PS Vita TV because when the son's friends come over he turns on his PS4. Before that the PS4 is off. He turns on the PS4 then it shows a diagram of the PS4 going to the Vita TV then Streaming to another TV in totally different room. If I took that diagram at face value a Vita TV playing Netflix could Stream a game from the PS4 to a TV without a Vita TV. Which to be honest would be pretty cool.
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Post by: Oblivion on September 10, 2013, 02:11:35 PM
http://imgur.com/a/rqvhi
This diagram helps understand how it works.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: Ceric on September 10, 2013, 02:44:36 PM
Yeah, that diagram supports my conclusion. The PS4 can only be used for 1 thing at a time.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: ejamer on July 14, 2015, 10:54:07 PM
Someone walk me off the edge here.
Playstation TV - and to a lesser degree, PS Vita - is clearly a failure, but Walmart is clearing out the bundle package (includes PS3 controller, 8 GB memory card and Lego game) for $50 and I keep thinking that despite the many limitations it would be a good way to ensure my pretty sizable collection of digital PSP/PSOne Classic games is easily accessible and playable on TV without huge borders going forward. Getting access to a handful of compatible Vita games that appeal to me would be icing.
Am I a sucker for even thinking about this? :-\
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 14, 2015, 11:20:08 PM
That seems like a good deal. I'm a big Vita fan, though a lot of that is the portability, which this obviously wouldn't have. Hell, the controller on its own would run you almost that much.
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Post by: Shaymin on July 14, 2015, 11:39:32 PM
So they're selling the BUNDLE at the same price as the Dualshock 3?
...if you don't buy that, I will. I need an extra PS3 controller, if nothing else.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: Evan_B on July 15, 2015, 12:08:44 AM
I bought this piece of **** back when Amazon had a lightning deal for it a few months ago, and I essentially use it for filling out my PS Classics and to pick up the random titles that pop up on flash sales, etc. A lot of the classics have pretty glaring frame rate issues and can be aggravating to play, and I've yet to pick up an actual Vita game for the system because the compatibility list is so spotty and most of the best games are not actually playable on it. Still, it was 45 bucks, and I got to experience the wonder of dealing with PSN's awful fund-adding system, so I'm no entirely disappointed in it. I'll probably feel much more positive when I start playing through Vagrant Story.
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Post by: Triforce Hermit on July 15, 2015, 08:23:17 AM
I actually want one for the sake of Persona 4 Golden. And...well....that is it.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: ejamer on July 15, 2015, 09:22:58 AM
I actually want one for the sake of Persona 4 Golden. And...well....that is it.
Yep: Persona 4 Golden is the big draw for me too, but there are a couple of other games I'm interested in too (Dragon's Crown, Tales of Hearts R, maybe the Walking Dead games) and they seem to all be pretty cheap. If it were just for Vita games, there would be no way I could justify the purchase though.
That seems like a good deal. I'm a big Vita fan, though a lot of that is the portability, which this obviously wouldn't have. Hell, the controller on its own would run you almost that much.
For me, TV play of my existing PSN content is a bigger draw than access to Vita games. I can use my PSP Go (which I love due to small size) for portable gaming easy enough and there aren't really enough games on Vita that I can't get elsewhere to draw me in. Note that PSP Go does decent TV output via composite or component, but PSP games don't get scaled very well and have huge bars around all edges.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: Evan_B on July 15, 2015, 12:03:07 PM
Two of the many PS classics I've played have had heavy stuttering in some shape or form, though Vagrant Story has had far less than Symphony of the Night. However, a PS1 classic like SotN should NOT have stutters. I'll continue playing to let you I so my thoughts.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: ejamer on July 15, 2015, 04:48:28 PM
...if you don't buy that, I will. I need an extra PS3 controller, if nothing else.
Confirmed the $50 CAD price at our local Walmart - they have 3 left after I bought one. Try checking locally and maybe you can find the same deal, or wait and see which other retailers are dumping the system.
(If you really want I could grab one for you here... but shipping would kill any value.)
Not opening it just yet because I want to do a bit more research before making it unreturnable... Evan's comments in particular about poor PSOne Classics performance is worrisome, although I suppose many of the games I want to play are RPGs so shouldn't be that badly affected... maybe? :-\
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: Ceric on July 15, 2015, 10:33:52 PM
Worse case scenario I'm fairly sure you could use it as a media device.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: Wah on July 16, 2015, 12:32:47 AM
-- Say what!? (lol) somebody cheated! Waluigi and wario reference!
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: ejamer on July 16, 2015, 02:01:11 PM
Opened and set up the Playstation TV (patience: not my strong suit) and things look good so far.
Downloaded The Lego Movie game that came with the bundle and... wow... that game is garbage. Are my expectations too high after playing Lego City, or are portable Lego games just throwaway efforts?
Regardless, very pleased with (brief) tests of PSP gaming on the big screen and looking forward to playing Persona 3 Portable and several other RPGs that way.
Looking deeper into actual Vita game compatibility has been disappointing. A bunch of games that looked interesting aren't compatible (Ys was a real disappointment) but that's not really a surprise.
Planning on grabbing a few cheapie Vita games this weekend: Dragon's Crown and Freedom Wars are available locally so top the list, and Persona 4 Golden will come soon enough. Anyone played them before? Would love hearing comments if so.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: ejamer on July 19, 2015, 10:21:32 PM
Listed in the "what have you bought recently" thread also, but to keep PS TV discussion here I grabbed these games this weekend:
* Dragon's Crown * Freedom Wars * Muramasa - Rebirth * Persona 4 Golden * Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time * The Walking Dead: Complete Season 1
Trying to find a copy of Tales of Hearts R, but that's not going so well. Also interested in a few other games that aren't yet compatible with PS TV but had developers/publishers make vague promises about support (maybe) coming eventually... not too keen on buying games for a dead accessory based on vague promises though.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: Louieturkey on July 28, 2015, 08:58:51 PM
I"m a big fan of Sly Cooper. If you've played any of the others before, I think you'll enjoy that one.
Title: Re: PlayStation Vita TV -- Say what!?
Post by: broodwars on July 29, 2015, 01:19:01 AM
I"m a big fan of Sly Cooper. If you've played any of the others before, I think you'll enjoy that one.
Haven't played the series before, but for years it's one of the Sony franchises that I was most interested in.
I've started playing with my kids and am very happy - the gameplay isn't mind-blowing, but it's enjoyable and the art style is gorgeous. Very pleased with this impulse buy; wishing that the Sly Cooper Collection was compatible with PSTV (although not really surprised to see it isn't).
Edit: Yay! My copy of Tales of Hearts R arrived today. There were something like 3 copies listed country-wide at EB Games Canada, so very pleased they were able to get one brought in. Always kind of disappointed that this game never came out on DS, this makes up for that entirely.
