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Title: Need for Speed Most Wanted U: It's deserves your purchase!
Post by: ShyGuy on February 13, 2013, 07:42:39 PM
Two videos came out today that impressed me so much, I needed to make a thread. Criterion decided to put some effort into their port of NFS to the Wii U.
- It's got PC assests so better textures - The expanded Wii U memory allows for a tweaked draw distance and lighting. - New asymmetric gameplay mode, allowing for a second player to tweak game settings on the fly during the race. The video shows the player avoiding collisions by turning off traffic and also switching from day to night on the fly.
Criterion avoided Nintendo hardware since Burnout 2, but they really have stepped up here in spite of EA's apparent sour attitude towards the Wii U. Support their hardwork! Be a Kairon! Buy good third party games!
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Post by: Adrock on February 13, 2013, 07:46:48 PM
I really don't want to give EA my money... I know that's counterproductive considering this is supposedly a great release, but EA have been such dicks.
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Post by: ShyGuy on February 13, 2013, 07:55:06 PM
It's been a tumultuous time for developers and publishers!
Ubisoft was doing great until the stupid Rayman delay. EA has been mediocre at best, but Criterion is stepping up with NFS MWU! Gearbox apparently pulled a bait and switch with Aliens vs Colonial Marines, but I don't know if we can blame Sega.
Title: Re: Need for Speed Most Wanted U: It's deserves your purchase!
Post by: ShyGuy on February 13, 2013, 07:59:10 PM
'Nother video!
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Post by: Enner on February 13, 2013, 08:53:25 PM
Ah, Alex Ward from Criterion Games must be on press duty as all these videos are from outlets based in San Francisco, CA.
I did notice some pop-in and frame rate dips in the videos so that is discouraging. Though, the other versions have similar issues.
EDIT: After finishing the single-player portion of the game on my PC, any performance issues I had watching the videos would be preferable to how the PC version performed for me. Ugh.
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Post by: alegoicoe on February 13, 2013, 09:11:56 PM
If by the time it releases the game is polished and working properly, I'll probably get it.
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Post by: EasyCure on February 13, 2013, 11:02:48 PM
I think this will be the first retail release that I download instead. I can see myself playing it, I just don't see myself picking it off the shelf of games, ya know what I mean? Among the other games I'm currently playing, this would be at the bottom of the pile. However, if it's just sitting there on the Home screen, I can see myself choosing it over whatever I had loaded in the disk slot, just for change of pace.
Does that make sense?
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Post by: alegoicoe on February 13, 2013, 11:09:31 PM
I think this will be the first retail release that I download instead. I can see myself playing it, I just don't see myself picking it off the shelf of games, ya know what I mean? Among the other games I'm currently playing, this would be at the bottom of the pile. However, if it's just sitting there on the Home screen, I can see myself choosing it over whatever I had loaded in the disk slot, just for change of pace.
Does that make sense?
Makes perfect sense. From my point of view; at least I get to race around a bit instead of checking Miiverse everytime I boot up the system cause at this point I have nothing else to do with it. I already beat NSMBU a dozen times and Zombi U twice, and I am not paying for overpriced games that I can get for 1/4 off the retail asking price.
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Post by: Kytim89 on February 13, 2013, 11:36:45 PM
Perhaps EA could put Criterion on track to help port over a Dead Space collection for the Wii U by the end of the year?
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Post by: alegoicoe on February 14, 2013, 12:04:35 AM
^I highly doubt EA would be so nice as to put one of their best studios to work on porting games over to Wii U. NFS I understand, I mean they made the game, but porting over Dead Space, no way. Specially with the Nintendo vs EA feud that has been brewing since last year.
Title: Re: Need for Speed Most Wanted U: It's deserves your purchase!
Post by: UltraClayton on February 14, 2013, 12:33:31 AM
I kind of doubt it will come to the eShop. If I recall, EA said something a while ago about being hesitant to bring their games to the eShop and they will probably just stick to physical copies for a while.
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Post by: TJ Spyke on February 14, 2013, 12:37:24 AM
I kind of doubt it will come to the eShop. If I recall, EA said something a while ago about being hesitant to bring their games to the eShop and they will probably just stick to physical copies for a while.
Both Madden NFL 13 and FIFA Soccer 13 are on the eShop.
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Post by: Caterkiller on February 14, 2013, 01:26:35 AM
I'm noticing elsewhere the vibe for this game is generally positive and the trend seems to be that many people are getting it. Ok I'm in. First realistic racer ever.
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Post by: alegoicoe on February 14, 2013, 01:30:11 AM
I'm noticing elsewhere the vibe for this game is generally positive and the trend seems to be that many people are getting it. Ok I'm in. First realistic racer ever.
Good, I believe playing this game online should be fun, al least it was one of the prominent features back when it released on the ps3/360.
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Post by: UltraClayton on February 14, 2013, 01:36:57 AM
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Both Madden NFL 13 and FIFA Soccer 13 are on the eShop.
Lol, guess it just goes to show I should get a Wii U first, talk later.
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Post by: bustin98 on February 14, 2013, 10:13:05 AM
I'm noticing elsewhere the vibe for this game is generally positive and the trend seems to be that many people are getting it. Ok I'm in. First realistic racer ever.
This is not a realistic racer. It has the look of a 'realistic' environment, but it will play as an arcade racer, with slides, boosts, high speed, and takedowns. Gran Turismo this is not. And I love it for it.
Title: Re: Need for Speed Most Wanted U: It's deserves your purchase!
Post by: azeke on February 14, 2013, 10:18:29 AM
Is there some gameplay reason why this doesn't have splitscreen?
It's because it's open world?
Title: Re: Need for Speed Most Wanted U: It's deserves your purchase!
Post by: Caterkiller on February 14, 2013, 10:38:09 AM
I'm noticing elsewhere the vibe for this game is generally positive and the trend seems to be that many people are getting it. Ok I'm in. First realistic racer ever.
This is not a realistic racer. It has the look of a 'realistic' environment, but it will play as an arcade racer, with slides, boosts, high speed, and takedowns. Gran Turismo this is not. And I love it for it.
Oops I knew that, what I meant was my first racer where everything wasn't a cartoon.
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Post by: Louieturkey on February 14, 2013, 01:43:33 PM
I'm noticing elsewhere the vibe for this game is generally positive and the trend seems to be that many people are getting it. Ok I'm in. First realistic racer ever.
This is not a realistic racer. It has the look of a 'realistic' environment, but it will play as an arcade racer, with slides, boosts, high speed, and takedowns. Gran Turismo this is not. And I love it for it.
Oops I knew that, what I meant was my first racer where everything wasn't a cartoon.
I think you'll enjoy it. It's basically the spiritual successor to Burnout Paradise and that game was awesome. This one should be just as fun just with a lot more cops involved.
Title: Re: Need for Speed Most Wanted U: It's deserves your purchase!
Post by: Enner on February 14, 2013, 03:08:43 PM
Is there some gameplay reason why this doesn't have splitscreen?
It's because it's open world?
That might be it. Then again, Criterion developed Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit for 2010. That game is based around sprint races and could have had split-screen multiplayer but didn't. They may be sacrificing split-screen support to improve graphical quality.
A Digital Foundry article on the game has some choice quotes:
(On the CPU) "When they first looked at the specs on paper a lot of developers said, 'Well, you know this is a bit lightweight' and they walked away. I think a lot of people have been premature about it in a lot of ways because while it is a lower clock-speed, it punches above its weight in a lot of other areas," he explains.
"So, I think you've got one group of people who walked away, you've got some other people who just dived in and tried and thought, 'Ah... it's not kind of there,' but not many people have done what we've done, which is to sit down and look at where it's weaker and why, but also see where it's stronger and leverage that. It's a different kind of chip and it's not fair to look at its clock-speed and other consoles' clock-speed and compare them as numbers that are relevant. It's not a relevant comparison to make when you have processors that are so divergent. It's apples and oranges."
(Final thoughts) "The Wii U has had a bit of a bad rap - people have said it's not as powerful as 360, this, that and the other. That, by and large, has been based on apples to oranges comparisons that don't really hold water. Hopefully we'll go some way to proving that wrong," he says.
"Nintendo don't speak about that, it's not their core focus at all but they did their 'Iwata Asks' about the hardware and it talks consistently about how they got to keep it quiet with low power consumption, and they totally did that... but what they haven't really championed is how they delivered something that could do this as well [he points to the 50-inch Panasonic playing host to Most Wanted U]... It's possible. It's work. You have to think about it and put time and craft and effort and whatever else into it but you have to do that for everything that's worth doing in this business... I think people should either go all-in or not bother."
Much love to Criterion. I'm still a bit better that Burnout 3: Takedown never came to the Gamecube, but it's only a tiny bit.
Title: Re: Need for Speed Most Wanted U: It's deserves your purchase!
Post by: ShyGuy on February 14, 2013, 04:03:44 PM
Yeah, Burnout 3 for the Xbox was amazing.
Title: Re: Need for Speed Most Wanted U: It's deserves your purchase!
Post by: alegoicoe on February 14, 2013, 04:16:55 PM
Personally I think Burnout 3 was the high point of the series. Paradise was good, but too big and much of the same.
Title: Re: Need for Speed Most Wanted U: It's deserves your purchase!
Post by: Stogi on February 14, 2013, 05:55:44 PM
That game did have split screen and probably the best maps too.
Title: Re: Need for Speed Most Wanted U: It's deserves your purchase!
Post by: Do_What on February 15, 2013, 01:47:40 PM
I didn't even realize this game was coming to Wii U. I hope it sells well, I would buy it, if not for the fact that I already own the PC version and have played it through to as complete as I ever want to.
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Post by: Kairon on February 15, 2013, 06:08:15 PM
I'll be a Kairon! Oh.. wait... I guess I already sort of am...
But I am PUMPED over the idea of Miiverse integration and the off-TV Play. I honestly have never been big into Arcade racers and have NEVER played a game in this franchise or maybe even genre before. This'll be fun. If I end up not getting Monster Hunter Ultimate this March, Need For Speed will be to blame.
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Post by: EasyCure on February 16, 2013, 01:55:19 PM
I've only ever been into a few select racers but thinking back to how fun it was to race around a city in games like GTA, Scarface or even True Crime: NYC - I think it might be time I get at least one dedicated racer.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 16, 2013, 03:45:06 PM
They can add me to the list of owners.
I loved Burnout2, and Burnout Paradise was good fun, so Criterion has my dollar on this one.
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Post by: BranDonk Kong on February 16, 2013, 05:52:45 PM
Only watched the second video, but it sure does throw some cold water on the Wii U is too weak argument.
Looks pretty god damn fantastic.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 16, 2013, 08:00:56 PM
The videos did look really good.
and he did say it was their visually best version with the HQ PC Assets being used.
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Post by: Soren on February 16, 2013, 08:47:17 PM
All of my siblings and I used to huddle around the TV to play Burnout 2. I'm going to support this game and Criterion.
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Post by: NeoStar9X on February 18, 2013, 12:58:25 AM
I'm torn on this. I want to play this but I really do not want to buy this at $60+ regardless of how much work went into with the other versions being $39.99. So putting off a purchase at it's release anyway because of Monster Hunter and Lego City Undercover. However if the price was dropped I would certainly put off Lego City in favor of it.
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Post by: Ron-F on February 24, 2013, 01:26:21 PM
I enjoyed Paradise City a lot and thus I might get this one, especially knowing they took the time to play the Wii U's strengths. I can only hope other developers will follow this example, although one cannot be too optimistic in cases such as this.
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Post by: Retro Deckades on February 24, 2013, 01:32:56 PM
Any word on whether this will have Burnout-like modes? If so, definitely count me in. If not, I'll still be sure to give it a try.
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Post by: UncleBob on February 24, 2013, 01:33:44 PM
If it had 3D, I'd buy. I want an awesome racing game with 3D. And I'm not even a huge racing game fan...
Title: Re: Need for Speed Most Wanted U: It's deserves your purchase!
Post by: ShyGuy on February 24, 2013, 05:10:47 PM
Here's a review of the 360/PS3 version by your friend and mine Daniel Bloodworth. It gives a good description of what is in the game.
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Post by: King of Twitch on February 26, 2013, 09:35:10 PM
not a single pedestrian. this open world stuff weirds me out.
Title: Re: Need for Speed Most Wanted U: It's deserves your purchase!
Post by: ShyGuy on March 19, 2013, 02:56:02 PM
Attention cheap-ohs who don't want to pay $60 for a late port!
EA is selling this through Origin for a mere $29.99! $30 at launch! Can you dig it?
edit: Will Best Buy or Wal-Mart price match this? UncleBob?
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Post by: TJ Spyke on March 19, 2013, 03:06:23 PM
Walmart won't, at least officially:
We do not honor: Ads when the actual price for items cannot be determined Internet pricing Misprinted ad prices of other retailers "Going out of business" sales or "closeout" prices
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Post by: UncleBob on March 19, 2013, 03:17:09 PM
Walmart won't. Doubt Best Buy will. It's not one of their pre-approved sites.
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Post by: UncleBob on March 19, 2013, 03:36:36 PM
Got it. Yay.
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Post by: ShyGuy on March 19, 2013, 03:44:39 PM
Rock on! I hope to convince enough people to buy this so I can do some multiplayer races!
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on March 19, 2013, 05:22:04 PM
I really don't want to give EA my money... I know that's counterproductive considering this is supposedly a great release, but EA have been such dicks.
Supporting EA and buying games when they're really good and ignoring.nand/or actively protesting their policies is the best way to do this. It encourages EA to make more games we like and show that we can be swayed if EA puts in effort. I think part of. The reason they hate us is we hated them first
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Post by: Sarail on March 19, 2013, 06:12:05 PM
Well, I just got back from picking up this game, along with picking up Lego City and Monster Hunter 3. So, I've done my part.
EA... don't make me any more mad with you than I already am. NFS is a step in the right direction. NOW GIVE ME NHL '14 THIS AUTUMN.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 19, 2013, 09:26:42 PM
Good deal. Sadly money already spoken for with Monster Hunter and Lego City Undercover. Sale will be over when I can make another purchase. Oh well.
Wait, why didn't you get the Target buy 2 get 1 deal?
Got better deals for the games at other stores due of credits and coupons/promos. To not use them would mean I'd be paying significantly more out of my pocket then I am now. I'm getting one less game but the less I have to spend the better overall. I've been trying to cut down how much I've been spending on games anyway.
Had the game launched at $30 as the official price and it had been that price from the start I would have gotten it. Like I said before I'd had been willing to put off getting Lego City in favor of it. This sale comes to late.
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Post by: Retro Deckades on March 20, 2013, 12:46:09 AM
BOOM! Just jumped on the $30 deal from Origin! Need for Speed U here I come!
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Post by: Seacor on March 20, 2013, 01:05:50 AM
I see Mike Sklens and Berto2k up in the Origin Hizzay. Who else is online with NFSMWU?
I'll be purchasing this as soon as I get an external hard drive for my Wii U (hopefully in the next couple of days).
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 20, 2013, 01:57:52 AM
I traded my copy of NFS:MWU back to Target and then ordered it from Origin instead.
now I have to wait till next week at the earliest to try it out :(
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Post by: Caterkiller on March 20, 2013, 02:20:05 AM
Man what do I do? Get the Origin discount and get a few more games through target? Or one less game all through target? I want Lego, NFS, Castle Vania(sp?), Darksiders, Batman and Ninja Gaiden. But I certainly dont need them all at once. Lego and NFS for sure but I really don't know how I want to go about this.
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Post by: ShyGuy on March 20, 2013, 10:11:06 AM
Lego and Batman are $50 each at Target, add Castlevania for free to save $40.
NFS is $30 at Origin, and will take a week to get there, so it's spaced out a little bit.
Darksiders is on sale for $20 at Best Buy so get that there.
so $150 and you get FIVE games.
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Post by: Retro Deckades on March 20, 2013, 10:51:05 AM
HOLY EFF! $20 for Darksiders II?
SIGH. Can't ever find deals like that at places like Best Buy up here in Canada.
Anyone want to pick one up and ship it to me? I can Paypal the money!
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Post by: Caterkiller on March 20, 2013, 11:13:55 AM
I suck at this game. I've seen the crash cam too many times
Isn't that what's fun about it all? I sucked when I first started playing Burnout Paradise. As you play more and get better and stronger cars, you'll see less and less of the crash cam.
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Post by: Fatty The Hutt on March 21, 2013, 05:13:47 PM
My sad tale: Queued this up for $30 purchase from Origin today. Ran out of time. Went back two hours later (after my meeting), no longer on sale.
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Post by: Louieturkey on March 21, 2013, 05:16:33 PM
My sad tale: Queued this up for $30 purchase from Origin today. Ran out of time. Went back two hours later (after my meeting), no longer on sale.
That is sad.
Sorry. Time to go to Target and buy three games if you can find them.
Not in Canada it isn't, but I appreciate the suggestion.
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Post by: alegoicoe on March 21, 2013, 05:58:34 PM
Just got my copy, updating as I post. It was a mission trying to get this game, I went to three Gamestop's before I found a copy, and all of the stores I went into was the same story, they only received one copy of the game due to low demand. I don't know if that's true, but that is what the people working at the store told me.
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Post by: Seacor on March 21, 2013, 06:01:08 PM
I don't know folks. I don' t think this game is playable.
Downloaded (to system memory) from eShop last night. I have played on and off for about three hours today and the game keeps randomly crashing with a loud buzzing sound. The only way to reset the console is to pull the Wii U power cable. This has happened to me four times now.
First game crash: Exiting the in-game Miiverse posting Second game crash: Randomly driving through the city Third game crash: Launched game and after pressing + or touchscreen to start - it crashed during the game loading screen Forth game crash: During a race (non-multiplayer)
The fact that a crash may happen during a race, makes this game unplayable as you lose your progress/stats during that race and of course have to start over AND have to pull the Wii U power cable to reset.
I posted on the EA tech support forums about this big issue. Hopefully a community manager will respond.
This needs a patch and ASAP!
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Post by: Retro Deckades on March 21, 2013, 06:06:51 PM
Just got my copy, updating as I post. It was a mission trying to get this game, I went to three Gamestop's before I found a copy, and all of the stores I went into was the same story, they only received one copy of the game due to low demand. I don't know if that's true, but that is what the people working at the store told me.
So what you're saying is that it's selling out almost everywhere? ;)
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Post by: Louieturkey on March 21, 2013, 06:56:39 PM
Seacor, this is the first time I've heard of this. Are you using system internal memory or an external HDD? If external, does it have its own power source or is it using the USB port to power it?
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Post by: ShyGuy on March 21, 2013, 07:01:45 PM
I don't know folks. I don' t think this game is playable.
Downloaded from eShop last night. I have played on and off for about three hours today and the game keeps randomly crashing with a loud buzzing sound. The only way to reset the console is to pull the Wii U power cable. This has happened to me four times now.
First game crash: Exiting the in-game Miiverse posting Second game crash: Randomly driving through the city Third game crash: Launched game and after pressing + or touchscreen to start - it crashed during the game loading screen Forth game crash: During a race (non-multiplayer)
The fact that a crash may happen during a race, makes this game unplayable as you lose your progress/stats during that race and of course have to start over AND have to pull the Wii U power cable to reset.
I posted on the EA tech support forums about this big issue. Hopefully a community manager will respond.
This needs a patch and ASAP!
I heard of a couple other people online having crashes, but it has been smooth for me. Out of curiosity, is your system resolution set to 720p or 1080p?
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Post by: ShyGuy on March 21, 2013, 07:02:38 PM
Just got my copy, updating as I post. It was a mission trying to get this game, I went to three Gamestop's before I found a copy, and all of the stores I went into was the same story, they only received one copy of the game due to low demand. I don't know if that's true, but that is what the people working at the store told me.
I think it was under ordered. The first Target I went didn't get any in stock, and the second Target only got three.
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Post by: ShyGuy on March 21, 2013, 07:03:58 PM
Seacor, this is the first time I've heard of this. Are you using system internal memory or an external HDD? If external, does it have its own power source or is it using the USB port to power it?
I downloaded to system memory (I have deluxe 32GB Wii U console) and have 11 GB available. I have not purchased a USB hard drive yet.
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Post by: Seacor on March 21, 2013, 07:33:36 PM
I heard of a couple other people online having crashes, but it has been smooth for me. Out of curiosity, is your system resolution set to 720p or 1080p?
1080p
Title: Re: Need for Speed Most Wanted U: It's deserves your purchase!
Post by: ShyGuy on March 21, 2013, 08:50:49 PM
I heard of a couple other people online having crashes, but it has been smooth for me. Out of curiosity, is your system resolution set to 720p or 1080p?
1080p
Just for grins, why don't you try setting it to 720p and see how it behaves? I've heard of some people having peformance issues at 1080p
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Post by: alegoicoe on March 22, 2013, 01:34:17 AM
I heard of a couple other people online having crashes, but it has been smooth for me. Out of curiosity, is your system resolution set to 720p or 1080p?
1080p
Just for grins, why don't you try setting it to 720p and see how it behaves? I've heard of some people having peformance issues at 1080p
already beat some of your scores :cool;
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Post by: ShyGuy on March 22, 2013, 02:20:32 AM
Not surprising, my scores are mostly terrible. :(
I think I need to concentrate on one model of car and build it up in the races.
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Post by: Fatty The Hutt on March 22, 2013, 08:52:52 AM
My sad tale: Queued this up for $30 purchase from Origin today. Ran out of time. Went back two hours later (after my meeting), no longer on sale.
It's showing on sale for me: http://store.origin.com/store/ea/en_US/DisplayProductDetailsPage/productID.251734800 (http://store.origin.com/store/ea/en_US/DisplayProductDetailsPage/productID.251734800)
Is this a Canada thing?
Must be. It show $59.99 for me.
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Post by: Seacor on March 22, 2013, 04:10:14 PM
I heard of a couple other people online having crashes, but it has been smooth for me. Out of curiosity, is your system resolution set to 720p or 1080p?
1080p
Just for grins, why don't you try setting it to 720p and see how it behaves? I've heard of some people having peformance issues at 1080p
No difference with resolution change. I was able to play for an hour this afternoon and encountered a hard lock/game crash.
Alex Ward on twitter says they are looking into the hard lock issues, but they are not seeing the issue on their dev or test kits.
I saw they same excuse from Gaijin Games in response to the hard lock issues with Runner 2 (apparently, they found the issue and the upcoming Runner 2 patch resolves this).
We now have two development studios stating hard locking issues with their games are not occurring on dev/test units and only on retail Wii Us.
What is different between the dev/test kits and the retail Wii Us and if there is a difference, why are the devs not testing the final game on retail Wii Us?
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Post by: TJ Spyke on March 22, 2013, 04:46:32 PM
I think the devkits have more RAM, not sure of any other change.
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Post by: alegoicoe on March 22, 2013, 05:56:55 PM
I think I need to concentrate on one model of car and build it up in the races.
we need to do some online racing.
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Post by: cubist on March 23, 2013, 08:45:12 PM
Picked up NFSMWU, MH, and...Tekken Tag Tournament 2. I went backward with my free copy...and it turned out to be an awesome decision.
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Post by: RedBlue on March 24, 2013, 01:35:38 PM
I'm starting to suck less at this game and I'm enjoying it more. Great game so far each vehicle has its unique feel.
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Post by: Caterkiller on March 24, 2013, 04:16:34 PM
Can't wait to get this but I have way too much on my game plate already. By the time I come around everyone will have moved on...
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Post by: ShyGuy on March 24, 2013, 04:20:12 PM
I tried online play today. It's not explained very well, but I figured it out. You drive to an event, then battle the other players. Some of the crashes get a little ridiculous!
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Post by: alegoicoe on March 24, 2013, 05:47:02 PM
I have been having a hard time getting used to the controls, its way too easy to lose control and some crashes are just ridiculous, otherwise is a solid game.
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Post by: Sarail on March 26, 2013, 09:22:10 AM
I can't wait to race with you guys. ShyGuy... you, Obi, and I have been gunning one another for best times on a lot of the races... keeps the blood pumping! Love this game.
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Post by: Soren on March 26, 2013, 02:43:00 PM
I just got the game from Origin today. I can't wait to race against you guys!
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Post by: Enner on March 26, 2013, 06:56:09 PM
I have been having a hard time getting used to the controls, its way too easy to lose control and some crashes are just ridiculous, otherwise is a solid game.
The game's handling is quite stiff when compared to Burnout games, Mario Kart, and F-Zero GX. When grip is lost unintentionally, things can go sideways in many wrong directions. Learning how and when to brake is very important in this game.
If you're having trouble doing a drifting turn through a right-angle corner, try hitting both the brake and the handbrake to start the drift. That seems to put the car in to an over steer much quicker than using only the brake or handbrake. I tend to have my finger on the accelerator while doing this, but see if you get better results by letting off the gas as you are slamming down on both the brake and handbrake.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 26, 2013, 08:00:05 PM
You shouldn't be allowed to drive for at least an hour after playing this game.
It has me thinking I can drive through tiny gaps going 90 easy. But I have to say to myself "this is not need for speed" over and over again.
Same thing happened to me. 20mph over the speed limit on the city streets weaving in, out and around traffic as if everyone else was in the wrong.....
then again I do that everyday to and from work.
But like a rapping politician, I'm gonna blame it vi-vivi-vi-vivideogames.
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Post by: Retro Deckades on March 29, 2013, 07:43:39 PM
Wow, this game is pretty sweet.
I barely know what I'm doing half of the time and my driving is terrible, but exploring the city, finding jackspots and crashing through billboards is all kinds of stupid fun!
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Post by: pokepal148 on March 29, 2013, 09:16:22 PM
I barely know what I'm doing half of the time and my driving is terrible, but exploring the city, finding jackspots and crashing through billboards is all kinds of stupid fun!
the original ps1 game was very similar in that regard but it wasn't much more then races
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Post by: BranDonk Kong on March 29, 2013, 10:00:06 PM
You shouldn't be allowed to drive for at least an hour after playing this game.
It has me thinking I can drive through tiny gaps going 90 easy. But I have to say to myself "this is not need for speed" over and over again.
QFT. When I was a kiddo I play some GTA3 (or one of them) and then drove shortly after and had to keep telling myself that I can't just drive through the grass and run people over and stuff.
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Post by: Stogi on March 30, 2013, 06:05:32 AM
When you were a kiddo I hope that's not the only thing you said to yourself.
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Post by: UncleBob on March 30, 2013, 04:06:14 PM
Wow. I am amazingly bad at this game.
Also, cops are really stupid in this game. I was in the middle of town, went on some crazy ramp, shot through the air, smashed through a billboard and through several lamp posts (along with various other things), landing near a cop. Reduced my speed, keeping pace with the officer. Nothing. Didn't even care. Never mind the fact that I was swerving all over the road, continuing to hit things. Well, the cop's lane ended, so he decided to merge into mine and sideswiped me. NOW he turns on his lights and starts chasing me. Jerk.
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Post by: Stogi on March 30, 2013, 04:08:39 PM
Should have took him out.
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Post by: UncleBob on March 30, 2013, 04:15:20 PM
Also, I can't figure out how to get this set up. It's telling me to create an origin ID - I already have one. I enter it, but there's no place to enter my password and it just keeps telling me that ID is already in use?
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 30, 2013, 04:55:45 PM
The cops in this game are crazy. I made a comment in miiverse about them, but it got deleted even with self censorship of my own bad language.
I give up. There's no getting this to work online.
Thats the problem I had with BurnOut Paradise on the PC.
I just quit trying... then eventually quit playing.
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Post by: bustin98 on March 30, 2013, 08:45:32 PM
We need to have a community night with this game. I haven't played with anyone yet.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 31, 2013, 12:33:59 AM
i just got online and no one is on... :(
maybe next time. and i just figured out the high speed driving and got 1st place in a race, so i think i'm ready for some multi ;)
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Post by: UncleBob on March 31, 2013, 01:07:20 AM
SO... how'd you get the online to work? :D
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 31, 2013, 01:36:33 AM
signed into my origin account, but someone already stole my names (to my already registered Origin acct!?).... so now I will be known as BlackNMild2k13 on the WiiU Origin games.
Your name shows up on the in-game friendslist though.
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Post by: bustin98 on March 31, 2013, 01:46:39 AM
maybe next time. and i just figured out the high speed driving and got 1st place in a race, so i think i'm ready for some multi ;)
Are you on my friend list? I've been playing for the last several hours.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 31, 2013, 02:06:12 AM
I don't know. add me and we can play next time... probably tomorrow.
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Post by: smallsharkbigbite on March 31, 2013, 08:30:38 AM
As someone thinking about trying out a Criterion racer, should I get this or Burnout Paradise?
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on March 31, 2013, 08:52:47 AM
They're very similar. If you have a Wii U, this one seems to definitely be the way to go, given the care that went into this version.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 31, 2013, 02:10:28 PM
this game has hard locked on me twice now since I've put it online. both times in the last 20 minutes. and both during high pursuit.
and I was up to a Heat Level 5 in my Lambo, school'n these cops in real stunt drivin' they kept tryin' to pin me to the f***'n wall, but they was all too late at arrivin' I'm bustin' doughnuts in the intersection, burnin' out tires till my rims grindin' speeding pass traffic cams, dueces up, immortalized cuz they caught me smilin' :D
That's my face on all of ya billboards, I'm most wanted. U see me shine'n I wanna autograph each and every one, but I'd need a new sharpie for all that signin' Off to win races, even though the cops hatin'. Gas Pedal till I'm red line'n Hitting sharp corners and taking all the cuts. can't catch me, but don't stop tryin'
Something cool though. I switched over to a new car that I found in a jackspot during the chase (Bently), and the cops commandeered my Lambo and started chasing me with it.... I thought that was weird. too bad the game locked up before I could get a shot of it to share.
edit: Just got my 3rd hard lock. right at the beginning of taunting the cops again. Somebody gotta fix this asap. it's annoying. I'm gonna post in the Miiverse about it.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 31, 2013, 09:48:50 PM
Has anyone beat this Hennessey Venom GT race? Everytime i have a lead, especially toward the end, either that VenomGT speeds past me at 250mph or i get blind sided by an invisible cop, and then i end up losing by a few seconds everytime.
Rachtman had the record to beat @ 3:37:32 i obliterated that with 3:20:18 and i am no closer to winning than when i barely lost and hadn't yet beat the time Rachtman set.... its getting frustrating.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 01, 2013, 12:28:12 AM
Update:
I beat Most Wanted #9, #8, #7 & #6 all on the first try. I still have no luck w/ #10 for the same reasons mentioned above. WTF!!
:moonface:
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Post by: ShyGuy on April 01, 2013, 02:20:48 AM
I hear the trick is to maintain speed and the venom will rubberband along with you.
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Post by: RedBlue on April 01, 2013, 03:30:05 AM
I've been in first place but smallest mistake and that thing comes at you like 300 mph. The best luck has been with the pagani
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Post by: Sarail on April 01, 2013, 08:03:16 AM
Has anyone beat this Hennessey Venom GT race? Everytime i have a lead, especially toward the end, either that VenomGT speeds past me at 250mph or i get blind sided by an invisible cop, and then i end up losing by a few seconds everytime.
Rachtman had the record to beat @ 3:37:32 i obliterated that with 3:20:18 and i am no closer to winning than when i barely lost and hadn't yet beat the time Rachtman set.... its getting frustrating.
Yeah, slipstreaming is the key. I'm going to wait until I build up the fastest top speed car I can get, and then I'll try it again. Congrats on busting my time, though. Man, that race is difficult.
If I can pull myself away from Monster Hunter, I'll play some more NFS tonight.
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Post by: bustin98 on April 01, 2013, 11:03:19 AM
I broke your 3:20 with 3:15 in my Hennessey ;)
But I had 3:25 before that. Wonder why you aren't seeing my scores. My face is plastered all over most billboards I come across. There is one that drives me insane, the middle of the park. I don't know the name of the park, but you'll know it when you see it. Who has it now did 218 in the Aston Martin. I'm blazin in my Hennessey and the fucking car goes over the billboard every single time, except when it does I'm going too slow to match the distance. So I upgrade the Aston as much as I can... WTF? This car is slow ass. How 218 was hit in this car is beyond me. And trying to do the Gravity race in it and have a speed of 130.. not happening. It barely tops out at 150 on boost.
Anyway, BnM, I saw you online but I have no way to communicate with you. If we were playing on the 360, I could just bring up the console and send you an invite. This is where Nintendo drives me crazy. How hard is it to just let people send messages to their friends from anywhere on the WiiU? Just hit Home, click Friends, click name, send message, back to game. No, you have to exit the game, go to miiverse, go to conversations, start one, then wait for the friend to notice that the miiverse icon is active so they can log in and see the message. Which means they are no longer playing the game you want to play. ****!
It would have been cool for Criterion to step up and allow some sort of message system to be set up in the game.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 01, 2013, 11:22:17 AM
I'm sure I could match that 3:15 in my Bugatti, but I almost always **** up that hard right turn into the mountain road just after the freeway exit.
You would figure that #9-6 would be harder than #10, but that was not the case. I'm gonna try again when I get home from work today.
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Post by: Soren on April 01, 2013, 01:32:33 PM
Actually the Hennessey Most Wanted Event is part of the Ultimate Speed Pack DLC, which is why it's harder and separate from the Top 10 Most Wanted (#10 is actually the Alfa Romeo).
The Miiverse integration with this game is actually the best I've seen so far. Miiverse posts in the game, posting straight from the game(no screenshots though) and adding friends is all a nice touch. The messaging system is needed but hopefully more publishers pick up on it.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 02, 2013, 12:55:46 AM
I just had another Hardlock on NFS as I tried to goto Miiverse to post a comment about beating Easycure & JohnnyNWR in their specialized events.....
Not sure if they are aware they have specialized events or not, but I beat 3 of them just now.
Still haven't caught anyone online when I've checked either. I guess I gotta keep expanding my friends list until someone from here is online.
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Post by: RedBlue on April 02, 2013, 01:26:08 AM
You should add me redzombie
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Post by: ShyGuy on April 02, 2013, 02:54:48 AM
I want to be on but kidney surgery. Hopefully soon. I caught a random match which was fun
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Post by: UncleBob on April 02, 2013, 10:35:54 PM
Where is everyone? I'm finally online (gave up trying to use my existing Origin ID) and no one is alive. :(
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Post by: UncleBob on April 03, 2013, 12:49:38 AM
Played some against Bustin tonight.
As I said, I'm really bad at this game.
Multi needs cops though. I have fun toying with them.
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Post by: bustin98 on April 03, 2013, 02:35:00 AM
I couldn't leave until i got my face on those billboards on the loops. Have fun getting them back :)
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Post by: UncleBob on April 03, 2013, 03:00:32 AM
You took both of 'em? /sadface.
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Post by: UncleBob on April 03, 2013, 03:13:14 AM
"Dispatch, this subject isn't slowing..." said the officer while my car sat parked on top of an archway landmark.
When I first climbed this, I was at a heat level one. It's been slowly building and I'm currently at a 5+. There are several officers on the ground below me, none of them moving, none of them making the slightest attempt to even do anything but set there. When I hit Heat Level 4, another cop came screeching into the area, taking out several lamp posts, and finally coming to a rest after ramming one of the other officer's vehicles.
I know I'm going to get blamed for all this damage.
I'm almost to six. Does something cool happen when you max this baby out?
::edit:: just hit six. I'm a "serious danger". Sitting here on my perch. Doing nothing.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 03, 2013, 10:16:01 AM
The impassable swat van road blocks get set up, the SUV cops are set to Kamikaze mode and the high speed high performance cop cars are brought out.
I thought they had confiscated my vehicle, I think it was really that my vehicle has disappeared and a all black concrete our Lamborghini cop showed up instead.
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Post by: Caliban on April 10, 2013, 03:12:28 AM
Just finished LEGO City Undercover. Time for some racing.
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Post by: bustin98 on April 10, 2013, 01:28:30 PM
Playing on a public online match is almost unfair against people who have the time to sink and unlock the Hennessey Viper and other top of the line vehicles. I wonder if they try to match you with others of a similar skill level, or just randomly pair you up.
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Post by: RedBlue on April 10, 2013, 01:57:47 PM
Playing on a public online match is almost unfair against people who have the time to sink and unlock the Hennessey Viper and other top of the line vehicles. I wonder if they try to match you with others of a similar skill level, or just randomly pair you up.
When I go online my top of the line cars don't go with me. You have to unlock all your stuff for the cars
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Post by: bustin98 on April 10, 2013, 05:09:39 PM
Exactly what I was saying. You have to play online to unlock the online cars and upgrades. The thing is you have to win or earn points to unlock certain things, which gets difficult when you are facing off against people who have better equipment.
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Post by: RedBlue on April 10, 2013, 05:53:54 PM
You can steal their cars and they get added to your list
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Post by: bustin98 on April 10, 2013, 07:15:26 PM
Really? I'll have to check that out. I did steal the Viper.
Edit: Not true. I did not have any stolen vehicles in my list.
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Post by: RedBlue on April 11, 2013, 01:28:57 AM
Well after I steal cars they show up with the customizations the racer had. For example in one of the SUV races I stole one with a reinforced chassis so in my list I had two Land rovers. One without and one with it
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Post by: ShyGuy on April 11, 2013, 10:08:54 AM
So my friends list showed UncleBob playing NFS, but he wasn't available to on my in game friends list. Do I need to unlock it or something? Are you not on Origin UncleBob?
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 11, 2013, 10:11:43 AM
Well after I steal cars they show up with the customizations the racer had. For example in one of the SUV races I stole one with a reinforced chassis so in my list I had two Land rovers. One without and one with it
could it be that you already unlocked all those cars and upgrades in the regular game first?
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Post by: ShyGuy on April 12, 2013, 02:06:58 AM
Do I not understand the friends thing? The Wii U shows UncleBob online playing Need for Speed. I go to the game and the friends option is locked and no one is listed. I am on Origin, I can play public online games.
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Post by: UncleBob on April 12, 2013, 07:33:29 AM
Probably because I'm not playing online right now?
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Post by: ShyGuy on April 12, 2013, 05:30:11 PM
But it still collects your billboards and stats?
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Post by: UncleBob on April 12, 2013, 07:29:11 PM
Yeah - it sends those stats whenever you connect. They're saved Origin-side and downloaded to others when they connect.
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Post by: UncleBob on April 13, 2013, 12:10:55 PM
Holy crap. I finally beat bustin's high score for points during a pursuit.
Damn.
I swear, any time I'd get points up high, they'd start setting up the SWAT Team road blocks, so when I'd try to get away, I'd run into one with about 8 cars on my ass. I'd try to turn around quick enough, but they'd pin me in.
Finally did it though. Almost went for more, but I wanted to get away. I was cooled down to level one, when there was a cop car off to the side. Thought about engaging, but decided to evade instead. Didn't want to risk losing all those points. :D
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Post by: bustin98 on April 13, 2013, 10:50:15 PM
Ha ha. I'll have to give you something more to think about.
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Post by: UncleBob on April 13, 2013, 10:53:43 PM
I feel like I could keep going forever with the method I was using... But once I topped your score, I took off for fear of making a stupid mistake and losing it.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 13, 2013, 11:35:00 PM
i had just under 60k a little while ago in a police pursuit, but i got busted trying to fix a flat. Swat van pulled on opposite side of shop just as i was driving through it and then 2 SUV's an several cop cars pinned me inside from behind.
it was a manuever of brilliance on their end, but i can't help but think it was all just a coincedence and bad luck on mine.
also i just hit a jump for 287.2yds. next closest was 185.4yds. 100yd+ gain. that is a proud moment.
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Post by: Caliban on May 03, 2013, 02:57:07 PM
Just got 100% on single player, 40 hours. Anybody up for multiplayer, like a whole bunch?
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Post by: Soren on May 03, 2013, 05:05:43 PM
I'm back and forth with this game and Fifa but if most people are up for a community night I'm down as well.
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Post by: ShyGuy on May 03, 2013, 06:20:09 PM
100% ? dang. Some of these races are pretty hard.
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Post by: Caliban on May 03, 2013, 08:20:20 PM
I could have decided to only play the races once and be done with it, as that is the only attribute factoring into the game's completion rate, aside from breaking Billboards and whatnot. Instead I've gotten Gold on every race for every single car except for 8 Most Wanted cars, but I am in the process of getting all Gold for them too... and it's good that you play around a lot in the game, and do multiple races with a car so as to get the best stats. Want to farm for the Track Tires PRO? Go to the place with the big ring sculptures and just drift on them.
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Post by: Enner on May 04, 2013, 05:17:18 AM
Want to farm for the Track Tires PRO? Go to the place with the big ring sculptures and just drift on them.
I should try that; doubt I can stay on them. My go-to place is the big fountain in the grand park with the arch. With getting Off Road Tires Pro, I drift in circles on the grass in the park. A construction site would be flatter and better for that. Getting Reinflatable Tires Pro is easier by going in to the lower-ranked Most Wanted races. Those usually have at least two spike strips in an event.
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Post by: Caliban on May 04, 2013, 08:59:01 PM
It's not that difficult, Enner. I was even doing it with the Veyron unlocked from the Most Wanted #1 (Bugatti Veyron Grand Sport Vitesse) event. I go to the railroad track for the Off Road Pro, or I go to one of the construction areas and just race around and make a few jumps here and there to add to the Lightweight (or is it Aero...) attribute. I have never used the Reinflatable Tires. I just dodge the spike strips.
Which car did you guys mostly use for the Most Wanted events? I used the Lamborghini Gallardo. I really liked its handling. It's not my favorite, but it did the job.
Favorite car? Lancia Delta Integrale. It's my goto car, or at least the first car I get my hands on on pretty much every single racing game I've played... as long as it is playable in said games.
Worst car? The Mclaren F1 LM. Terrible. At least for me, I just hated its handling. It would go sightly off road and it would lose its traction fairly easily. All cars do, but this one takes the rotten cake.
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Post by: UncleBob on May 23, 2013, 06:42:06 PM
Someone remind me again why we supported this franchise?
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Post by: Sarail on May 23, 2013, 06:45:13 PM
EA is just lazy. I realise Criterion and another developer (the name escapes me at the moment) are co-developing Rivals, but EA could absolutely get on with a team to scale the Frostbite 3 engine to Wii U. For crying out loud, it's bloody functional on the 360/PS3! >:/
EA - "We're butthurt."
That should be their motto.
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Post by: TJ Spyke on May 23, 2013, 10:53:35 PM
EA is just lazy. I realise Criterion and another developer (the name escapes me at the moment)
It's a new studio known as Ghost Games (based in Gothenburg, Sweden), this is there first game apparently.
Adding to that, it's made up of people formerly of DICE (Battlefield 3) and staff that worked on Need for Speed: SHIFT and SHIFT 2: Unleashed. The game is using the Frostbite 3 engine which is one reason why Need for Speed: Rivals isn't coming to Wii U. Ghost Games is getting some assistance from Criterion Games if the appearance of Criterion's logo in the first trailer of Rivals is any indication.
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Post by: Sarail on May 24, 2013, 09:22:52 AM
EA is just lazy. I realise Criterion and another developer (the name escapes me at the moment)
It's a new studio known as Ghost Games (based in Gothenburg, Sweden), this is there first game apparently.
Adding to that, it's made up of people formerly of DICE (Battlefield 3) and staff that worked on Need for Speed: SHIFT and SHIFT 2: Unleashed. The game is using the Frostbite 3 engine which is one reason why Need for Speed: Rivals isn't coming to Wii U. Ghost Games is getting some assistance from Criterion Games if the appearance of Criterion's logo in the first trailer of Rivals is any indication.
That's not a reason why the game isn't coming to Wii U. Frostbite 3 can run on 360/PS3 in a scalable form - it can run on Wii U easily then. The reason is EA is butthurt, and therefore doesn't want to put in the effort in enable Frostbite 3 on Wii U to begin with.
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Post by: EasyCure on July 04, 2013, 08:41:12 PM
guys, I had no idea i'd be addicted to this game as much as I have been the last few weeks. It was way too much for me the first time I played it but I picked up the gamepad recently and have been obsessed.
It was like a dream, I was only playing to kill time because I didn't have a disk loaded anyway, I happened to find a Dodge Charger within a few minutes and LOVED it. Not only was it the best one to handle, the very first car I could get used to drifting with, but it reminds me of the Dodge Avenger I recently bought; obviously sexier though. It was like I was in the game though and now I'm hooked.
I like trying to beat some of your times, you guys are good! Even when I'm most in the zone I can't seem to beat your scores. If anyone wants to play this together, I'm usually free m-f after 7pm EST! just message me thru nwr and it will go to my mobile email! haha i'm serious, this game is THAT good.
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Post by: smallsharkbigbite on July 04, 2013, 09:16:06 PM
How many times have we gone through the EA is butthurt argument? If Nintendo wasn't right now about 2 million sold under their projected 3/31 sales then EA wouldn't have trouble supporting them. Almost all big publishers have scaled back Wii U support and said that Wii U won't get any exclusives until they start selling better. EA even recently admitted they could make Frostbite 3 for Wii U, but won't until sales improve.
I didn't see it in here but the game is now $29.99. That's my buy price so I'll pick up a copy.
I'm under no delusion that EA is going to suddenly increase support because I bought a copy of the game. I just want to play it. I dropped supporting games to bring in new games when it failed miserably during the GameCube era.
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Post by: Shaymin on July 04, 2013, 09:57:54 PM
The price has apparently been dropped to $30 here, so I may go retail for this and forego the eShop.
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Post by: Nemo on July 05, 2013, 04:09:24 AM
I ordered a copy on Amazon.com when I saw it the other day for 29.99. Glad to see it's universal.
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Post by: Sergqov on July 06, 2013, 05:16:37 AM
I really don't want to give EA my money... I know that's counterproductive considering this is supposedly a great release, but EA have been such dicks.
Adrock I'm absolutely agree with you , it's not fair to give them our money .
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Post by: EasyCure on July 06, 2013, 06:39:30 PM
Will they got extra money from me but I don't care. I'm enjoying the game and recently, so had my gf. Had anyone tried the motion controls? I had no idea the game supported it but the bigger surprise was that they worked really really well!
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Post by: UncleBob on September 28, 2013, 11:14:39 PM
Hm. I went to play this, after not playing it for so long... and it's created me a second profile. All my speed points, billboard records, etc. are showing under a different name (UncleBob_128) which it's suggesting as a friend.
Anyone know how I can get back to my main profile?
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Post by: EasyCure on September 29, 2013, 09:05:08 AM
Wish I could help but I don't know how to help. In glad someone bumped the thread though because I've been meaning to ask if anyone else has issues with connecting to the ea servers. Something like 90% of my time playing I can't fucking connect and it's been this way the last few months. At first I had trouble connecting to miiverse and every other online application for the system, so I thought it was something on my end but everything else works fine.
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Post by: Fatty The Hutt on November 28, 2013, 01:19:46 PM
Tried this from the library. Very pretty and very fast. Might be a tad too difficult for me. LOTS of crashing going on. Tutorial is not great. I assume I just fart around stealing various cars and entering races? Every so often evade cops, smash billboards and gates. Crash a lot. Anything else?
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Post by: ShyGuy on November 29, 2013, 02:29:40 PM
A big part of the game is in the menu system, competiting against other player's records.
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Post by: Mop it up on November 30, 2013, 03:36:30 PM
I bought this game but I'm not really liking it. I haven't played a non-Mario Kart racing game in a while so I thought the novelty of playing a racing game again would overpower my dislike for realistic games, but the slippery control is just so awful it makes the game largely unfun. I have my doubts that this is how these cars control in real life, because if that were accurate, no one would buy them due to crashing them all the time.
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Post by: Shaymin on November 30, 2013, 05:11:38 PM
Busted it out myself today - controls were a little squirrely (but not as bad as Mop said). However, the last Criterion game I played was whatever Burnout game was a 360 launch title (the one with traffic checking), so I'm finding it hard to find winnable races to get my character's stats up.
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Post by: Stratos on November 30, 2013, 07:54:14 PM
I bought this game but I'm not really liking it. I haven't played a non-Mario Kart racing game in a while so I thought the novelty of playing a racing game again would overpower my dislike for realistic games, but the slippery control is just so awful it makes the game largely unfun. I have my doubts that this is how these cars control in real life, because if that were accurate, no one would buy them due to crashing them all the time.
If you regret the purchase I would be willing to buy it off of you. Let me know. I've been itching to play a new tuner racing game and I have not played one since Underground 2.
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Post by: Enner on November 30, 2013, 11:51:48 PM
If you regret the purchase I would be willing to buy it off of you. Let me know. I've been itching to play a new tuner racing game and I have not played one since Underground 2.
There is no car tuning or any sort of car customization in Criterion's Need for Speed: Most Wanted outside of picking a color.
Well, that's a lie. There is a little bit, but the attribute changes and the upgrades are the same across all cars. There are no drastic upgrades to a car's performance or major changes to its aesthetics.
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Post by: Stratos on November 30, 2013, 11:58:31 PM
Really? I assumed that all of the games Post-Underground had car mods. When did that change, with Carbon? That is a huge let down for me. Half of the appeal of those games is the customization for me. Knock one off of my purchase list.
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Post by: ShyGuy on December 01, 2013, 06:51:09 AM
I don't know about that, I've noticed performance increases with the various upgrades in acceleration, tires, etc.
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Post by: Stratos on December 01, 2013, 10:34:16 AM
I don't care about the performance enhancements as much as the body mods. It is the ability to live the life of a tuner street racer that is the appeal of this game for me. Granted, the point of the mods is to enhance performance but if there is no major tweaks to the look of the parts it looses for of the fun for me.
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Post by: Retro Deckades on December 01, 2013, 12:02:35 PM
I recall finding the controls quite slippery when I first began playing the game, too. However, it didn't take too long to really get the hang of them. Once I did, it was great fun.
The cars do handle a little differently, and I found the customization options essential to employ to win certain races (specifically changing tires to increase speed/grip on different surfaces).
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Post by: Enner on December 01, 2013, 02:14:41 PM
I don't care about the performance enhancements as much as the body mods. It is the ability to live the life of a tuner street racer that is the appeal of this game for me. Granted, the point of the mods is to enhance performance but if there is no major tweaks to the look of the parts it looses for of the fun for me.
I'm sorry to say that the theme of the tuner street racer in Need for Speed has been missing ever since EA had Criterion make the games since Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit (2010). Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit didn't let you add a spoiler to a car and neither does Need for Speed: Most Wanted (2012).
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Post by: Stratos on December 01, 2013, 02:38:37 PM
So it sounds like I would have to go for Carbon, Undercover or Nitro to get the tuner culture I want. Though Undercover got poor reviews. And they are of the regular Wii. Maybe I should look at a 360 version since I don't care about the motion controls so much.
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Post by: Mop it up on December 01, 2013, 03:25:20 PM
The game is $13, go buy your own copy cause it ain't even worth the shipping cost.
If someone is used to playing realistic racers then the controls probably won't feel off, but compared to the tight controls of Mario Kart and racers from 15 years ago, they're terrible.
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Post by: EasyCure on December 08, 2013, 11:10:23 AM
They took some getting used to at the start, but I wouldn't say they are terrible.
Like you Mop it up, I hadn't really played many racing games outside of Mario Kart for many years (exception; Excite Truck/Bots!) until NSF:MW, especially on the realistic front of things. The last NFS game I owned was on Sega Saturn, just to give you a frame of reference.
In the beginning every single car I found felt slippery and it looked like a drunk was behind the wheel, I couldn't keep the damn cars straight! Eventually I found the Dodge Challenger which handled a little sluggish compared to the other vehicles I had tried, and this helped me get used to the controls. Before I knew it I was winning races left and right. In fact, I beat ALL of the Most Wanted cars with the Dodge Challenger; only realizing later that I'd gotten better at the controls and may of had an easier time using my new favorite, the Audi.
Months later and I'm ranked 2nd among my friends list, which includes many NWR users. I'd love to dethrone Caliban but geez, that dudes a beast!
I say give the game a try when the mood is right and test out the different cars to see which one handles best to you personally, and avoid races all together until you're a little more used to the handling. The game is just fun enough driving around exploring the scenery/locating other cars or evading the police. Once you're used to one car, take on the races and watch how you'll improve with every win. I couldn't drift to save my life when I started, now I'm taking the tightest turns as smooth as eggs.
Also, it might help to think of it this way; stop comparing it to Mario Kart. The sense of speed is much greater and as a more realistic game, it makes sense that over steering left or right at those speeds would lead to problems. Just be glad it isn't so realistic that you flip the car trying some of those turns. If you still don't like it, that's a shame because I would have liked to add you to my friends list for it.
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Post by: Apollo5 on December 08, 2013, 12:18:17 PM
Are people here still actively playing this. If I pick it up will there be people here up for some multiplayer?
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Post by: Mop it up on December 08, 2013, 04:17:59 PM
They took some getting used to at the start, but I wouldn't say they are terrible... [buncha other stuff]
I think the controls are bad compared to other racers as well, like the Burnout games, they aren't like this. I just feel that a game's challenge should come from the track designs and the competing cares and the tasks at hand rather than simply getting a grip on the vehicle... but I may very well be missing the point. My opinion remains the same though.
I don't think I need to actually find other cars to try them out. It seems like you won't get the achievement for finding cars unless you locate them in the city, but they appear to all be selectable from the quick menu. This game has a pretty strange setup to it and that can be a little confusing at times also.
I still plan to play through the game at some point since I have it, gotta get my money's worth. It just haven't been a priority since I have other, better Wii U games to play like Super Mario 3D World, and I have also been playing less games lately due to outside factors that I won't get into here.
And yeah, Caliban is a beast! That guy's just plain nuts.
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Post by: EasyCure on December 09, 2013, 11:04:16 PM
Hm well I won't argue your opinion because I've already stated the racers I've played in the last few years were all in the Mario Kart and Excite series, and the last NFS I played was in 1997 or so; I can't speak for how they control. What I do know is that I've given Gran Turismo a shot before and I thought that came played unwieldy, and was afraid NFS:MWU would control just as bad as I thought that game handled, but luckily it turned around for me and I can handle even the fastest cars.
I have to find your name in the Wii U friend code/network ID thread and add you; maybe we'll get to race in the future.
Yes, Caliban is crazy. I keep trying to beat his times but outside of a single Ambush event, I got nothing.
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Post by: Mop it up on December 09, 2013, 11:07:15 PM
My NNID is consistent. Well, it wouldn't let me add spaces so it has underscores, but otherwise it's the same.
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Post by: ShyGuy on January 03, 2014, 09:15:21 PM
So Alex Ward, the head of Criterion, has left to form his own company along with the studio head Fiona Sperry.
Looks like EA is killing off another one, I guess we won't have to look forward to a new Burnout anymore.
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Post by: UncleBob on March 09, 2014, 01:16:59 AM
"Nintendo didn't pay to market my game."
I'm sorry - but it *shouldn't* work that way. Even more so at the point it's a port (even if it was a damn good port) of a multi-platform game that was released six months late.
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Post by: ejamer on March 09, 2014, 09:38:56 AM
I'm sorry - but it *shouldn't* work that way. Even more so at the point it's a port (even if it was a damn good port) of a multi-platform game that was released six months late.
Mostly true. Nintendo has absolutely no responsibility to market a third party game. Maybe he's upset at Nintendo for some other reason and just venting here, maybe he looked at the overall marketing for the system and (like the rest of us) was sorely disappointed at how Nintendo handled Wii U sales from the start, maybe the anger is just misplaced. But I can understand them being upset when real effort was made, a solid game came out of that effort, and the team didn't get rewarded with sales/success.
EA doesn't seem to have offered much support for the game - whether that's due to EA's relationship with Nintendo or with the developers, I don't know - and that's worth getting upset about for the developers.
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Post by: ShyGuy on March 09, 2014, 10:08:26 AM
I think Platform makers subsidizing publishers has heavily contributed to the poor state of the video game industry today.
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Post by: BranDonk Kong on March 09, 2014, 10:11:56 AM
Nintendo has no problem pushing Bayonetta 2. SONY has no problem pushing Battlefield 4. Microsoft has no problem pushing Titanfall. Nintendo should have done everything they could have to promote 3rd party games on Wii U when it first launched, and even put money into them. They didn't, and the 3rd parties are mostly gone now.
He's mad at EA too, because they didn't market the game (or initially release it in Europe) either.
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Post by: UncleBob on March 09, 2014, 11:21:14 AM
Nintendo has no problem pushing Bayonetta 2. SONY has no problem pushing Battlefield 4. Microsoft has no problem pushing Titanfall.
Bayonetta 2 will likely get minimal coverage - and even then, it's a Nintendo exclusive and Nintendo is the publisher. Titanfall is a Microsoft exclusive. And is Battlefield 4 did not release six months later on Playstation consoles than every other system.
Give me an example of a multi-platform title with a six month delayed port that one of the other major console manufactures gave a lot of marketing support to. Now, give me about nine more, since a singular game does not set a precedence. Then, we'll talk.
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Post by: Stratos on March 09, 2014, 11:47:18 AM
The game and team were a casualty of the fallout between EA and Nintendo. Nintendo didn't want to touch it because of EA and EA just wanted to toss it out to recoup some of their losses and move on.
It is like two divorcing parents tossing their commitments to their kid between the two so Junior's school project never gets completed and so Junior get's a bad grade on his project. Neither parent wants to get too heavily involved because they know the other will jump in and cause yet another fight out of the matter.
But this isn't a helpless kid, it is a group of adults running a company. There are other options. So I side with UncleBob in this one. Developers tend to allow themselves to be backed into these corners. they shopped the title to Nintendo, but what about the Nintendo fans? I know if I ever were creating a game I would be trumpeting it to every media organization I could. Connect with Nintendo Life, NWR, GoNintendo, PixlBit or IGN's Nintendo team. Let the Nintendo fans know that, "yes, there is something going down with Momma EA and Papa Ninty, but we have an awesome title for the fans and we as a development studio want to give those Nintendo fans a quality title".
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Post by: UncleBob on March 09, 2014, 12:19:43 PM
I will say, I do remember there being a couple of interviews around that time where Ward talked up how awesome Nintendo is(/was?).
There was so many things that went wrong with this release, I don't really think you can put any of the blame on the developers - they seemed to have done virtually everything they possibly could. Hell, most retailers didn't even carry the title (which, really, why carry a full-price six month old game that you're already discounting on other systems?)
I just don't think it's fair to put any real blame on Nintendo. EA was reportedly being dicks to Nintendo at the time. Nintendo, like any other company, has a marketing budget. If you're Nintendo, do you spend that budget on a game from one of the largest publishers (who are being dicks to you) or on smaller, indy titles that don't have the backing of one of the world's largest publishers?
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Post by: Retro Deckades on March 09, 2014, 12:32:04 PM
Does anyone remember if this game was featured in a Nintendo Direct? It seems like that is something that Nintendo could have easily done to potentially increase the awareness of the game without incurring huge marketing costs.
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Post by: Kytim89 on March 09, 2014, 03:44:07 PM
If Nintendo included third party games in their directs then they might get better sales. Although there are not going to be enough of them to warrant their use in Nintendo Directs.
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Post by: Mop it up on March 09, 2014, 05:12:20 PM
It's understandable the guy would be upset at the situation, it definitely sucks. But it should all be directed at EA in this case.
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Post by: ymeegod on March 09, 2014, 09:39:48 PM
Think he was referring to "print" discounts. Everything goes through Nintendo and I believe Nintendo gives an discount to how many copies are printed--meaning if the order is small the fees are at the highest meaning the developers/publishers really don't get much profit.
Also Nintendo controls the Eshop and the front page is loaded 90% of 1st/2nd party titles usually, MS and Sony's does a great deal to promote 3rd party games. Just got done a few rounds of Zombies and MS front page was 3 three party titles (CoD Ghost (activision), ACIV (ubisoft) and one indie game think it was Castle Crashes (the rest were free to play tank game and a couple of ads for TV shows).
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Post by: Soren on March 09, 2014, 10:26:36 PM
Criterion was caught in the crossfire of EAs war with Nintendo. I believe if Ward looks at it with a level head he'll see EA screwed them over royally.
Hindsight being what it is, EA intentionally sabotaged the release of the Wii U version. They slashed the price 50% on day 1 on their digital storefront (Origin), ensuring that anyone who was going to buy the game did it through them almost exclusively. Many of us in this thread did so. Meanwhile, the eShop version has been left to rot at $60, still to this day, leaving Nintendo with little reason to spend money marketing the game from the very beginning. It's a miracle the game is still getting featured at all(it's halfway down on the front page right now).
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Post by: smallsharkbigbite on March 10, 2014, 01:51:53 PM
Why would EA selling the Wii U version for 29.99 on day 1 be a bad thing? If anything it should have pushed extra sales and pushed word of mouth on the game. Digital sales would have suffered, but EA and Nintendo make money out of disc sales as well. Their preference may be digital but they'll gladly sell discs.
Yme is right. There are lots of little things Nintendo could have done without spending a bunch on marketing. As outsiders its tough for us to know what usually happens. Maybe its standard for certain things to be provided by Nintendo or at least standard for Sony/Microsoft to provide. If Nintendo didn't provide something that was expected, I can see the reason for being upset.
Nintendo charges something like $12 a disc for licensing so shouldn't they have some obligation for that fee? That's the way I look at it. Nintendo's job is to have an ecosystem that third parties can make money on. Until that time they should be doing everything they can to help third parties be successful. After they've developed that system that is profitable then its on the third parties. Thats just my 2 cents.
Uncle Bob its impossible to know the details behind every deal so its convenient to ask for proof when there is no way to provide that proof. In my experience new consoles often get late ports that have significant marketing. The easiest example is Madden 25. This came out 3 months late but was advertised heavily for ps 4/xbo. I'd almost be surprised if Sony/Microsoft didn't have a hand in that marketing. I could probably go through the last several console launches and come up with more than 10 late ports that received good marketing.
Lastly, I don't really know how anyone can not blame this to some extent on Nintendo. Nintendo and EA both spit in each others faces. Did EA send the game to die? Yes. But they sent it to die because the relationship was broken. At a macro level Nintendo shares blame for the deterioration of the relationship. I don't think you can look at the micro level (game) only and pretend the macro doesn't matter. It would be like me punching my auto mechanic in the face and then being surprised when he doesn't fix my car. Then blame him solely for not fixing my car when my actions led to him not fixing my car.
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Post by: UncleBob on March 10, 2014, 06:07:39 PM
If the game had came out at the console's launch, then I wouldn't be commenting about it being a late port. It came out several months after the launch (I guess in the "launch window").
It's a great game and it deserved more sales than it got - but I think it's folly to say that it's on Nintendo. If EA, one of the two largest third party developers, doesn't have the faith to market their game, why should that fall back on Nintendo?
Skylanders: Giants released as a late port on WiiU (due to the launch window timing). The game still had plenty of marketing buzz.
Here's a follow-up. I don't really follow advertising, so I don't really know... Was there much of a marketing budget for the original release of NFS:MW when it was released on the 360/PS3?
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Post by: smallsharkbigbite on March 10, 2014, 07:06:35 PM
If the game had came out at the console's launch, then I wouldn't be commenting about it being a late port. It came out several months after the launch (I guess in the "launch window").
Rumor is that they tried to make it a launch game. It looks like EA and Nintendo were getting along and EA starting this project and a bunch of projects on the Wii U. At some point in the middle things soured and EA didn't really give a crap about Wii U projects. It's likely they didn't want to allocate the necessary resources to help NFS Most Wanted become a launch title. I know you only blame EA for that, but EA's attitude changed because of the treatment they received from Nintendo. That's why I think there is enough blame to go around. Either way I doubt he came to Nintendo 1/31/13 to ask for help. They had to come to Nintendo at a time when relations were good and they actually thought Nintendo might help them out. It would have been before the Wii U launched and Nintendo could have given them that ultimatum (make it out for launch and we'll help you). Obviously there was no desire on their end to help out.
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It's a great game and it deserved more sales than it got - but I think it's folly to say that it's on Nintendo. If EA, one of the two largest third party developers, doesn't have the faith to market their game, why should that fall back on Nintendo?
So what, no third party has faith in their game? It's all the third parties fault that the Wii U has no significant third party activity? Nintendo isn't to blame at all? If this was just EA skipping Nintendo consoles I'd see your point. At the rate major third party games are missing the Wii U, I can't help but think Nintendo is the problem. At the very least you should be upset that Nintendo doesn't care about giving you the consumer the best gaming experience.
EA is like the ex-girlfriend spouting crap after the breakup. It's petty and makes them an easy target to blame things on. But Nintendo quite simply doesn't care. They don't care that NFS was on the Wii U or if a future version is on the Wii U. They don't care if third parties make good Wii U games or crappy Wii U games or no Wii U games at all. And they aren't going to try anything to get any third party to replace the gap that games like this create. You can blame EA if you want, but the Wii U will be a worse console without great third party support. Nintendo should care that the Wii U is a worse console because of that, but they don't.
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Skylanders: Giants released as a late port on WiiU (due to the launch window timing). The game still had plenty of marketing buzz.
It was only a month late and they were advertising all the versions including Wii U. It also did pretty terrible on the Wii U so I don't know that it should be the third party gold standard for how to be successful on the Wii U.
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Post by: Soren on March 10, 2014, 08:21:11 PM
I know you only blame EA for that, but EA's attitude changed because of the treatment they received from Nintendo.
Yeah, how dare Nintendo say no to an Origin-based Nintendo Network.
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Why would EA selling the Wii U version for 29.99 on day 1 be a bad thing?
It's bad because every other retailer except Origin was selling the game full price. They sacrificed long term sales to cash in early knowing the game was projected to sell poorly anyway.
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Post by: smallsharkbigbite on March 10, 2014, 08:58:45 PM
I know you only blame EA for that, but EA's attitude changed because of the treatment they received from Nintendo.
Yeah, how dare Nintendo say no to an Origin-based Nintendo Network.
Yes, this is exactly what I was saying in my previous posts. Your unbiased simplification of Nintendo's third party issues to just this one issue is spot on. I'm glad you were able to sift through my verbiage to pull this out. All the third parties that have either left Nintendo or are in the process would certainly stay with Nintendo if they had Origin Network. Rockstar, EA, Ubisoft, Warner Bros, Activision would all prioritize Wii U projects. We know that PS4 is very popular because it uses Origin. It's not like Nintendo has other third party relationship issues. It's not like Nintendo reached out to EA for help with their online infrastructure.
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Why would EA selling the Wii U version for 29.99 on day 1 be a bad thing?
It's bad because every other retailer except Origin was selling the game full price. They sacrificed long term sales to cash in early knowing the game was projected to sell poorly anyway.
Most games either have a day 1 sale or pre-order bonus nowadays. I don't see how a brief sale early in the game's life would lead to fewer sales. It may lead to less money for EA as the retailer, but it doesn't lead to less money for Nintendo since they get the same licensing fee regardless of sale price.
If anything it probably was incentive to some people that would pick the cheaper Xbox/PS versions for cheaper to pick up the Wii U version. Also, I'm pretty sure it was a website glitch and not an intentional sale. I remember seeing the post on here and thinking about it for a day. I checked the next day and the Wii U version was $59.99 while the PS3/360 versions remained $29.99. If it was intentional they probably would have had the Wii U version on sale as long as the others.
I mean we are talking about the Origin website, not Walmart. Most people probably never knew about this sale and it's long term effects were certainly minimal.
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Post by: Soren on March 10, 2014, 11:21:12 PM
You made a statement about EA's specific relationship with Nintendo and I answered it. Now you want to make look like I'm oversimplifying Nintendo's third party issues. Stop, just stop.
EA knew no one was going to buy the game at full price. Accidental or not, the Origin sale was their best chance to recoup the investment they made porting the game. And I find it gard to believe it was a glitch when the press release for the sale mentioned Wii U as well as other platforms.
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Post by: smallsharkbigbite on March 11, 2014, 08:05:57 AM
You made a statement about EA's specific relationship with Nintendo and I answered it. Now you want to make look like I'm oversimplifying Nintendo's third party issues. Stop, just stop.
Except that it's not true for EA either. The Genesis got the best version of EA sports games because Sega worked with EA. Square gave their RPGs to PS1 over the N64, Rockstar skipped Nintendo with GTA. EA has been constantly pulling things from Nintendo over the years. EA dropped Nascar, MVP Baseball, NCAA sports from the Gamecube. They followed it up by pulling Tiger Woods, NFS, All Mature Titles (Mass Effect/Battlefront) for the Wii. I'm not sure what happened with EA, but if anything whatever happened simply quickened the effect that was already happening. By the end of the Wii U there never was going to be any EA support without positive interaction from Nintendo.
I think you also simplify it to EA pitching Nintendo and being surprised when Nintendo didn't use them. Nintendo went to EA for online help. There also had to be some sort working relationship with EA for EA to bring as many games as they did at launch. Mass Effect 1 + 2 skipped Wii and they brought 3 to the Wii U. NFS Most wanted skipped Wii and they brought it to Wii U. Yeah, you can argue they torpedoed those releases, but they lost money bringing to the Wii U so they cared enough about the Wii U to put investment to it at one point. Had whatever positive effect not happened, I think you'd have seen Madden 13 and maybe Fifa 13 at launch and that is it (based on their Wii support). Then based on sales they probably wouldn't have developed sequels for those either.
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EA knew no one was going to buy the game at full price. Accidental or not, the Origin sale was their best chance to recoup the investment they made porting the game. And I find it gard to believe it was a glitch when the press release for the sale mentioned Wii U as well as other platforms.
If EAs only chance to recoup was to sell the game at a loss, then I still don't know how the sale was a bad thing. And I still don't know how an obscure sale that 95% of the people in the US didn't know about would have a material affect on the total sales for that game. I got NSMB U for $39.99 on sale durting the first month at Target. Did that sale hamper Wii U sales as Nintendo went for initial adopters instead of long term sales? I just don't understand your argument here. Games go on sale all the time.
