Post by: K_Icyfire on May 21, 2003, 06:09:11 PM
Post by: joeamis on May 21, 2003, 09:27:35 PM
Post by: Mario on May 21, 2003, 09:49:54 PM
*looks over a Super Mario 64 and Super Mario Sunshine* What are YOU guys looking at...
*starts playing them like a madman*
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 22, 2003, 05:55:55 AM
As for a new Mario adventure, heh, I'll just say that they are gonna run out of things to port sometime
Post by: KDR_11k on May 22, 2003, 06:57:16 AM
Post by: Luciferschild on May 22, 2003, 07:26:11 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on May 22, 2003, 07:50:24 AM
Mario in 3D is generally fine. What they have to do though is make the next 3D Mario game more action based with smaller levels that revolve around the idea of making it from the beginning of the level to the end instead of all this "collect useless crap" stuff.
Post by: BlkPaladin on May 22, 2003, 09:39:12 AM
Post by: NWR_Lindy on May 22, 2003, 09:52:03 AM
silks
Post by: ThePerm on May 22, 2003, 10:53:17 AM
Post by: WesDawg on May 22, 2003, 01:37:48 PM
Post by: Ninja X on May 22, 2003, 01:40:03 PM
As for 3D Marios...only two true 3D Mario games have been released. One of them has been hailed by many as one of the best games ever. The other...did not live up to expectations. Wait for Mario 128...let's see what direction Nintendo is taking the series in before you truly start complaining about the 3D Marios. Most of you had to admit, Mario 64 is a damn great game. And I'm happy to admit Mario 64 is my favorite game of all time.
Post by: Infernal Monkey on May 22, 2003, 01:43:07 PM
Post by: SatansNemesis on May 22, 2003, 02:06:11 PM
Post by: NWR_Lindy on May 23, 2003, 06:48:37 AM
silks
Post by: K_Icyfire on May 23, 2003, 10:54:12 AM
Post by: Uglydot on May 23, 2003, 12:27:33 PM
A 2d Mario would be great, those levels were fun, but it would need to come with a stress ball...they were very frustrating. Always gave you a life too, so you had no reason to quit. Evil Nintendo.
Post by: NintendoKiD on May 24, 2003, 11:09:45 AM
Post by: WesDawg on May 24, 2003, 11:43:28 AM
Post by: GoldShadow1 on May 24, 2003, 01:09:11 PM
I'd love a game of just those kind of levels from SMS. Those were great. Just as long as the included a TON of them. And how about a level editor? Those were simple enough for one.
Post by: KDR_11k on May 25, 2003, 12:09:04 AM
While on this, what about a Giana Sisters remake?
Post by: Ocarina Blue on May 25, 2003, 01:01:28 AM
Post by: Michael8983 on May 26, 2003, 02:14:29 PM
Most people who hated Mario 64 for that reason seemed to like Mario Sunshine a lot better.
The game is far more linear. There are even arrows that guide you along each mission and, at the start of the stage, it shows you exactly where you need to go. The greatest part of the game is the "secret levels", though, most of which are entirely linear.
Best of all, the red coins aren't annoyingly scattered everywhere like in Mario 64. They're usually in one distinct section of the levels. The game is definitly more challenging too.
I am hoping the next Mario game will be a side-scroller though.
I think it should be cel-shaded to capture the look of the NES/SNES games but also allow amazing 3D effects.
Post by: Ninja X on May 26, 2003, 03:27:21 PM
Post by: Ninja X on May 26, 2003, 03:31:18 PM
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Originally posted by: NintendoKiD
Nintendo should go back to its old roots and release Super Mario World 4. It should be the most realistic Mario game ever released. It should have multiplayer features (no gba crap) Yoshi should be in the game, the Fire Plant, Cape, Racoon Suit, Frog Suit, Hammer Bros suit should all come back
Realism is not something often associated with Mario. And I hope you know the fire plant, cape, raccoon suit, frog suit, and the Hammer bros. suit have unrealistic effects. No one can just put on a cape and fly after a running start.
Post by: Nintendo Gamecube on May 26, 2003, 03:38:52 PM
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No one can just put on a cape and fly after a runing start.
Now you tell me...
Post by: YoungLink on May 27, 2003, 08:01:36 AM
Post by: CastlevaniaFreak on May 27, 2003, 10:54:31 AM
But it would be awsome none the less.
Well, at least we get mario 3 redone and M&L soon.
Post by: NintendoKiD on May 27, 2003, 11:53:14 AM
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Realism is not something often associated with Mario. And I hope you know the fire plant, cape, raccoon suit, frog suit, and the Hammer bros. suit have unrealistic effects. No one can just put on a cape and fly after a running start.
By Realistic I mean realistic graphics. I know for a fact SMS did not use the GameCube's power to the fullest, I want the next Super Mario Bros game to have the most realistic graphics the cube can handle. And the idea of all those power ups I think is cool, the water pack thing was so stupid, things like that dont belong in a Mario game. I mean, mushroom, leaf, waterpack?
Post by: Vanilla Thunder on May 27, 2003, 12:28:23 PM
As for the game, I think each world should consist of a huge, wide open central region with plenty of nooks and crannies to explore and things to do, but with paths branching out from around it, paths that seamlessly lead into more linear obstacle courses and such (like SMS's Warp Stages) where the real meat of the game would be.
For instance, imagine Mario hopping out of a Warp Pipe and landing knee-deep in snow on a windswept valley swirling with ice and snow. You flip to first person perspective and examine the area. Behind you is a skyscraping mountain rising straight up from the valley floor, and you can see hundreds of slippery ledges that you could clamber up to reach the distant top. You run, hop, skip, jump, and flip your way to the mountain and begin the perilous journey up, warding off assaults from airborne enemies as you tread carefully across icy ledges and skillfully jump to and fro. Then, when you finally reach the summit, from which you see the entire valley, with its snowy forests, sparkling caves, and misty lakes, you are faced with very linear obstacle course filled with all sorts of insane platforming challenges, just like the Warp Zones in SMS. And at the end is your Star.
In my opinion, it's the best of both worlds, and should suit Mario fine, with the right curve of difficulty and implementation. And yes, the game should be seasoned well with TONS of nostalgic touches, with everything from the Super Mushroom and Fire Flower to the Tanooki Suit and Hammer Bros. Suit, from the Koopa Kids to Wario and Wart, from worlds of fire and ice to climatic battles aboard airships, everything, all brought to new life on next generation hardware.
Now THAT would be quite something!
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 27, 2003, 12:55:21 PM
So you want Mario to look like an actor in a suit? What you mean, I think, is you want GOOD graphics- Mario has always had a very cartoony look to him and making him look like a real person would completely screw the whole style of the game. I agree SMS didn't use the Cube's power to the fullest, but lots of polys doesn't equal realism- realism is an artistic style and Mario does not fit in that style. The next Mario game should have incredible graphics while still retaining the fun graphical style of SMS.
Post by: GoldShadow1 on May 27, 2003, 05:30:43 PM
Post by: Ninja X on May 27, 2003, 05:56:47 PM
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Originally posted by: NintendoKiD
By Realistic I mean realistic graphics. I know for a fact SMS did not use the GameCube's power to the fullest, I want the next Super Mario Bros game to have the most realistic graphics the cube can handle.
I certainly hope you're not talking about making Mario looking something akin to Resident Evil 4. I agree with Vanilla Thunder though. That concept art looked rather sweet. A cartoony touch with them would compliment the Mario world nicely.
Post by: NintendoKiD on May 27, 2003, 06:51:10 PM
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So you want Mario to look like an actor in a suit? What you mean, I think, is you want GOOD graphics- Mario has always had a very cartoony look to him and making him look like a real person would completely screw the whole style of the game. I agree SMS didn't use the Cube's power to the fullest, but lots of polys doesn't equal realism- realism is an artistic style and Mario does not fit in that style. The next Mario game should have incredible graphics while still retaining the fun graphical style of SMS.
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I certainly hope you're not talking about making Mario looking something akin to Resident Evil 4. I agree with Vanilla Thunder though. That concept art looked rather sweet. A cartoony touch with them would compliment the Mario world nicely.
Are you both idiots? Or just acting dumb? Seriously you know what I mean, but if I have break it down into easier terms I guess I will. By REALISTIC GRAPHICS I mean I want Mario to look as best as the GameCube can handle. Not realistic like a person, as realistic as he can be in the Mario world. As good looking as a Mario game can get, they way Mario looked in SMS was nothing compared to what he can look like. Do you understand now? Or must I keep explaining?
Post by: Michael8983 on May 27, 2003, 08:00:01 PM
Nintendo could take FULL advantage of the Gamecube's power for the next Mario game and have it end up looking less realistic than SMS.
Post by: Ninja X on May 28, 2003, 12:39:17 PM
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Originally posted by: NintendoKiD
Are you both idiots? Or just acting dumb? Seriously you know what I mean, but if I have break it down into easier terms I guess I will. By REALISTIC GRAPHICS I mean I want Mario to look as best as the GameCube can handle. Not realistic like a person, as realistic as he can be in the Mario world. As good looking as a Mario game can get, they way Mario looked in SMS was nothing compared to what he can look like. Do you understand now? Or must I keep explaining?
Do you know what realistic graphics are? They are not the same as good graphics. If you want realistic graphics, go check out Resident Evil 4. If you want good graphics, go check out The Wind Waker.
