Post by: RobD on May 17, 2003, 05:19:43 PM
First off-NO PURPLE COLORS OR FISHER PRICE COLORS FOR THE COLORING OF THE SYSTEM. I'm sorry but no matter what anyone will argue, purple as your primary video game console color is a very bad choice. It does not fit in with people's home theater coloring schemes(most of them silver or black). So I stongly suggest they choose platinum or jet black. Hell, I'd even go with a see-through case with flourescent lights(kinda like a pc case mod). Now wouldn't that be wicked and something different and sure to get people talking?(As long as it's done right).
A highly competitive price point. I say $149.95 at launch with one controller and a playable demo disk.
System ships with wireless controller and is wireless only. 4 people can play using different frequencies if necessary. The controls should have a rumble feature.
Backwards compatible with the Gamecube. THIS IS A MUST. Since Nintendo is releasing a system pretty quickly after the Gamecube, it's in their interests and the fan's interests to have a backwards compatible system.
DVD support. Nintendo should finally take a hint and support the DVD format. While they could still go with the smaller discs like they did with the cube, they should give the players a nice option to be able to play dvds in the system.
A "cool" name for the system. Gamecube was o.k. I guess but how about something with some bite or just cool? Nintendo Eclipse(cause it'll eclipse the competition hehe), Nintendo Nova etc.
Of course, killer system specs. It's gonna have to be powerful since they'll be first out of the gate apparently and it'll give time for Sony and Microsoft to up their specs. That said, Nintendo should make sure that the system could be easily "upgradable" for consumers in case Nintendo decides to add special features or increase system performance ala more memory etc..
MATURE GAMES. Nintendo MUST realize that the people who played the nes or now a bit older and expect more mature themed games. I'm not saying they need to make all mature games but they definately need to reach out to the 20 and up demographic. I'd even go as far as having an internal Nintendo division devoted exclusively to making "mature" games for the system.
BE AGGRESSIVE. Nintendo needs to come out swinging and show they mean business. How to do this? How about buy a company like Rockstar Games or secure the Grand Theft Auto series as exclusives to the system. I believe Rockstar's contract with Sony is over in 2004. Nintendo needs to break out the cash and get Rockstar to make Grand Theft Auto. Tell me the next Grand Theft Auto game exclusive to the Nintendo system being available with the system at launch wouldn't sell systems! Plus, it shows they're going after the "mature" market.
THIRD PARTY SUPPORT. Nintendo needs to get as many quality third parties as possible to develop for the system. This is a no-brainer.
ROLEPLAYING GAMES. Nintendo has been dropping the ball big time with rpgs. They need to get a Dragon Warrior or the proper Final Fantasy series on the system. Bringing back the "Mother" series to the console would help.
ALL FLAGSHIP CHARACTERS SHOULD HAVE GAMES AT LAUNCH. Mario, Zelda, Starfox, Pikman, Pokemon, Metroid,
Super Smash Brothers..etc. These games should be available AT LAUNCH. Why? Well it'll get the people who say "well, I'll wait until I see Super Smash Brothers until I buy a system".
A SOLID ON-LINE GAME NETWORK. Just think, downloadable new quests for the Zelda game or teaming up with your friends online to play Zelda online exploring dungeons together. Pokemon battles. Star Fox space battles, F-Zero races and downloadable new maps and cars, Mario Kart online and so much more. Grand Theft Auto online.....If Nintendo does it right and with the franchise characters they have, their online network would definately give Microsoft and Sony's a run for the money.
That's all of my suggestions or ideas. Post yours!
-Rob D.
Post by: Mario on May 17, 2003, 05:33:20 PM
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ALL FLAGSHIP CHARACTERS SHOULD HAVE GAMES AT LAUNCH. Mario, Zelda, Starfox, Pikman, Pokemon, Metroid,
Super Smash Brothers..etc. These games should be available AT LAUNCH. Why? Well it'll get the people who say "well, I'll wait until I see Super Smash Brothers until I buy a system".
Wow. If they did that, then i would buy ten of nintendo's next system! But i dont think its possible for Nintendo to release that many games on day one. IMO all they need is a mario game at launch, Luigis Mansion was ok, but its not a Mario caliber game. I agree with pretty much all of your points, except for DVD support and online games. DVD support would just make the console more expensive and also most people already have a DVD player, and if they dont then they most likely will have one by 2005. Online games would be ok, but only if they were affordable, none of this $100 for a modem adapter thingy and $100 a year bullcrap. But honestly, all they need is good games to get me to buy it.
Nintendo Eclipse, damn thats a cool name. Good post RobD. They also need good marketing, commercials, ads, etc. to get people talking, Nintendo has a reputation for making &*$% up ads, so that isnt very likely though... 
Post by: K_Icyfire on May 17, 2003, 05:43:06 PM
Post by: nolimit19 on May 17, 2003, 06:19:14 PM
Post by: kennyb27 on May 17, 2003, 06:34:40 PM
We would all love to see every flagship series at launch, but, in my opinion, we would sacrifice quality for quantity. In the year before Nintendo would be rushing to finish all these games for lunch, not that they would be bad games, because Nintendo has never released a poorly developed game, but they would not be top quality.
And my suggestion: A worldwide launch. No matter how unlikely this is, it would be incredible to see it happen.
Post by: MarioLinkSamus on May 17, 2003, 06:46:51 PM
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ALL FLAGSHIP CHARACTERS SHOULD HAVE GAMES AT LAUNCH. Mario, Zelda, Starfox, Pikman, Pokemon, Metroid,
Super Smash Brothers..etc. These games should be available AT LAUNCH. Why? Well it'll get the people who say "well, I'll wait until I see Super Smash Brothers until I buy a system".
If Nintendo were to do this, they might as well kiss their hopes of getting enough 3rd party support to compete with Microsoft and Sony good-bye. Nintendo has already learned this after the N64. They have learned to pace their games with not too many at once. If Nintendo were to release that many games of that calibur at launch, they would absolutely swallow any competition that would come and ultimately hurt everyone else's chances of selling successfully on the console. As an up and coming 3rd party company, I sure as heck wouldn't want my games to be competing with Nintendo's. You need to look at the big picture folks.
-MarioLinkSamus
Post by: deminisma on May 17, 2003, 07:07:26 PM
Post by: PIAC on May 17, 2003, 07:33:17 PM
yargh, i am fed up to here *puts hand somewhere near eye lashes* with people saying purple is teh ghey, there are alternatives, personally i prefer purple to black/platinum/spice its a great colour and it suits the gamecube, if anything have a whole slew of different colours ala the 64 around the end of its life, launch with 5 'standard' colours and have the option of gold/silver a bit later on to conicide with a big title launch for people who dont own one yet. Black Purple Green Blue and Red would be a nice selection of colours, black for yuppies/people with image problems/people who like black, purple for diehard hardnoses like me, and then green blue and red for anyone who happens to fancy those colours.
nintendo are working on getting more 3rd parties/'mature' games now so i figure they arn't going to stop any time soon, so some good relationships should be present come 2005 so that isn't so much a worry
wireless only? ehm no, launch with wireless or corded as an option, i dont want to only have wireless as wires dont worry me, given i sit all of 1 metre if that from my tv and have ample cord space, but that doesn't mean it should be corded only, a choice would be the best way to go.
well i personally dont really want online for my console games, but then im kinda a minority, so i guess having a decent online system, thats free mind you, would be a big plus.
as much as it pains me to say, a hard drive wouldn't be such a bad idea, but having a 251esque memory card that comes with the system would be an idea too, or both, so you can take your card round to your friends play and say looky at me, i own you! etc, especially if your taking a game that he/she doesn't have
Post by: Don'tHate742 on May 17, 2003, 08:44:48 PM
They should make contollers have a screen, so you will be able to play games like FF: CC without have to have 4 GBAs and Linkcables. Keep them corded unless they found a way to give ample life to it.
Online is a must, since alot of people will have broadband or faster connections.
Don't care about specs, as long as it is small agian, and is easy to attach things to.
Should be silver with a blue glow (Hell yes) or silver with a red glow, or black with a white glow.
Should come with a demo disk to further advertise games. THEY SHOULD LUANCH WITH A MATURE ZELDA AND A FPS, later follow up with Pokemon Online RPG and Metroid, then drop SSMB and F-Zero, few months later a Mario game accompanied by a totally new game. THAT IS ALL IN ONE YEAR. All the while other hugely take care for and appreciated Second party games, and hopefully good third party game.
And i should get everything free.
Post by: KDR_11k on May 17, 2003, 09:12:37 PM
Disk: Blue-Ray Disk, maybe .5cm larger than the current minidisks, so they are even harder to pirate.
As for the RPGs: Some kind of RPG-Maker in 3d. With option to transfer material via PC and import custom graphics (Hell, I'm a modeler!).
The price doesn't need to be too low. The GCs EUR199 (about USD200) was fine. But I'd say lower the game prices a bit (from 60 to 50), after all PC games cost just 45.
Buy Rockstar? Hell, WHY? GTA1 was the best anyway! And that was released for the GBA as well.
If they have some time left, they could release something like the EDS (if you've read Megatokyo, you know what I mean
)...
Post by: Tael on May 17, 2003, 09:51:32 PM
QuoteExactly. Just keep your GameCube if you'll still be interested in playing it. I'd rather Nintendo spent their money on making exciting new games on better hardware that'll blow my socks off.
Originally posted by: deminisma
Backwards compatibility is pointless. The energy and restrictions to make backwards compatible would mean it wouldn't be worth their while anyway.
Post by: StRaNgE on May 17, 2003, 10:48:39 PM
That and a built in game boy advance player.
Those two items and I am sold.
Post by: Infernal Monkey on May 17, 2003, 11:50:03 PM
They'll go crazy, "informing" the parents that they shouldn't stand for this crap, and that this game will never ever get released. This will hype up the pre-teen casual gamers.
"AW COOL NINTENDO IS ALL MATURE AND MAD! LOOK AT THE BLOOD AND STUFF! WOAH! THEY'RE COOL COZ THEY HAVE VIOLENCE!"
STEP 2: To get the parents back on track, so they buy it for the little ones, throw a mountain of cash at somewhere like the Ronald McDonald charity houses. Enough so that it'll make it to the news.
"AW NINTENDO IS SO SWEET! HERE CHILD! I'LL BUY YOU IT BECAUSE THEY SEEM INNOCENT AND NICE! MMM, PANCAKES! ME EAT GOOD!"
'Mum, you're freaking me out!"
"QUIET! GGGGR, BLARG, HULK SMASH! HERE! NEW NINTENDO FOR YOU!"
'Gee, thanks Mum'
"PANCAKES!"
STEP 3: Throw a DVD drive in there. I don't care about not wanting to go with the pack, it seems all future consoles will have a DVD drive whacked in there. GO WITH THE FLOW!
STEP 4: Have a new Mario game at launch. No Luigi. MARIO. MARIO MARIO MARIO! YIPPEE! YAHOO! HERE WE GO!
STEP 5: Wave Birds as a standard. NO SHORT CABLES AND POO! AND MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNOW WIRELESS CONTROLLERS ARE STANDARD!
STEP 6: Give it a name like "SUPER CUTE GORE FACTORY OLD MAN TICKET BRAIN ONION PEOPLE MEGA CD DUDE CRAP" people will be like "Woah, it's so odd, I have to have it!"
AND THEY'LL BUY 16.
Post by: Plugabugz on May 18, 2003, 01:21:48 AM
Nintendo concentrate entirely on ganmes, why deviate?
IF the gamecube isn't broken, why fix it?
The online gamine should concentreate particuarly on LAN Style Methodology. You can connect online, directly, to other gamecubes to play other people at say Mario Kart or F-Zero etc. (But don't focus entirely on First-party titles)
With that, keep the sizes and pads brilliantly designed, sheek colour (Holographic Black to Silver?), mature games (More Eternal Darkness and Metroid Prime) and a mature name - Nintendo Hybrid
- And I'm convinced completely.
Post by: Gamefreak on May 18, 2003, 04:21:58 AM
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on May 18, 2003, 04:54:41 AM
(2) I liked the purpled colored GC, but most don't. They should go for jet (with red LED) or silver (with blue LED).
(3) Backwards compatibility only if it is not too much of a hassle.
(4) Built in GB/GBA player would be sweet.
(5) And a worldwide launch! That means we Aussies get it before the US!
Post by: rpglover on May 18, 2003, 05:02:13 AM
i definately think it should be mario- no if, ands, or buts about it
zelda would be good but zelda games have a history of launching 2 years after the console releases
nintendo is taking the right steps now though- they are getting more 3rd parties to develope for them
personally i would like to see at the nintendo's next console launch a mario game, sports games from ea, and some other 3rd party stuff
they should hold out on releasing any big name things for a little while
nintendo should also try to be after rpg companies- they should they have gotten a little support from square-enix but they should go further
they should get support from game arts, overworks, namco, monolith soft- all those company games do not have to be shown at the launch but it would be good for people to know that they are currently developing for their next console and have games in mind
nintendo has been taking good strides in this generation and hopefully that helps for the future
Post by: kennyb27 on May 18, 2003, 06:10:39 AM
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Backwards compatibility is pointless. The energy and restrictions to make backwards compatible would mean it wouldn't be worth their while anyway.
It's not pointless. Why do you think PS2 did so well out of the gate? It is because they had their entire PS1 library available at the start. Nintendo needs this. Here's an example, someone who looks at the next console and who never played GCN will say "hm, I'd like to try out Zelda: Wind Waker and i want to get game X for the Gamecube 2." So he can just buy a GC 2 and play both games, the best of both worlds.
Post by: Stex on May 18, 2003, 06:51:44 AM
What GC2 really needs is a killer game ala Halo for Xbox at release. What did they have for the GC? Luigi's Mansion? heh A strong start always help in the console race.
Post by: Whichone on May 18, 2003, 07:42:34 AM
Are you crazy!! Backwards compatibility is almost a must for GCN2. Im sure Xbox Next will have it and PS3 already has it.
Post by: Luciferschild on May 18, 2003, 12:01:30 PM
Post by: Hostile Creation on May 18, 2003, 01:26:13 PM
Just messing with you. It'd get lonely around here if I died 
PIAC, I think you and I are soul thingies.
Our opinions and such are very much alike.
Post by: CHEN on May 18, 2003, 01:36:21 PM
Post by: reivned on May 18, 2003, 01:54:04 PM
I remember when I bought my SNES not long after launch and started playing Super Mario World with my brother right away ...
Post by: The Doc on May 18, 2003, 02:06:48 PM
1) Backward compatability with current GCN software is a must!
2) Wireless controllers would be nice, however they should have a recharageable battary pack becuase replacing battaries all the time is just not feasible. The wireless controllers should also support the rumble feature.
3) Strong third party support is also a must. Keep in mind, Nintendo is gaining ground with their stronger third party support plan by working directly with third party devolpers.
4) Nintendo has already stated that they will fight their back to the number one spot, and they will not rest until they have reached that goal. I agree that Nintendo finishing first in this generation is a lost cause; Nintendo simply launched the GCN to late and as a result, they put themselves in a hole. However, the next generation is a fresh start and if Nintendo plays their cards right they will have a shot at the console crown.
The Doc
Post by: Vanilla Thunder on May 18, 2003, 04:01:18 PM
Backwards comptability is a must. Most of my friends purchased a PS2 with the intent of playing all those old Final Fantasy games they missed, and I see no reason why the new Nintendo system shouldn't appeal to more with a huge library of great games right out the gate. It'd be well worth the time and effort to implement this feature, especially considering that the competition will no doubt have it.
Wireless controllers is also a must. The only people who wouldn't agree are those that still use corded controllers. For me, there's no going back after going wireless. Perhaps longer cords would suffice, but nothing beats wireless, especially when you're playing with a bunch of friends.
Nintendo needs to have TWO killer apps right at launch, one being a phenomenal single player game (preferably Mario) and the other being an insanely fun multiplayer game (like Super Smash Bros., which packs TONS of selling power). They should round out the arsenal with a bunch of high quality, small-time first-and-second party projects, and then a good amount of third party titles, with as many exclusives as they can garner and as many of the multi-platform ones too. The system itself should come with a playable demo disk highlighting some upcoming killer apps and other games.
Nintendo should really listen to the fans regarding its games. Appeal to everybody by throwing in nostalgic touches for the hardcore fans (like the Tanooki Suit and the Koopa Kids in a new Mario title), while appealing to the mainstream crowd with very rich, pleasing graphics and music. It's all about enrichening the franchises so as to strengthen the fanbase. It's worked for Nintendo in the past, they should just kick it into overdrive next generation.
And the system should probably be a solid silver, black... or white. Personally, a mostly white system with black lining would look really tight. Either way it should be small and sleek. DVD playback would be nice, and easy to implement, since DVD technology will be relatively inexpensive by that point. It'd still be worth it, too, since many people find more value in combining two different forms of entertainment into one. In Japanese culture, it's a must, since home space is so essential for many.
Anyways, just some thoughts.
Post by: ThePerm on May 18, 2003, 04:38:59 PM
Post by: Tael on May 18, 2003, 04:46:16 PM
So, if Nintendo ever gives us a Pokemon RPG on a console, it should be at their next console's launch. If they bundle it in with the console, it's basically a license to print money.
Post by: kennyb27 on May 18, 2003, 05:47:28 PM
Post by: Tael on May 18, 2003, 06:49:26 PM
Post by: PIAC on May 18, 2003, 06:59:54 PM
the great 'consumer' is one of the most fickle lack witted things ever.have backwards compatability AND killer launch titles, win win
but dont substitute killer launch titles for backwards compatabilty
Post by: Tael on May 18, 2003, 07:39:37 PM
Post by: PIAC on May 18, 2003, 07:55:05 PM
i love my job
money is no object!
Post by: Don'tHate742 on May 18, 2003, 07:55:58 PM
Anyways, if they launched with a full Pokemon Rpg/ online Rpg, they would top the charts so quickly. Also, launch it with a new SSMB. And have a bundle pack that would include a Cube 2 and two controllers. As I metioned earlier, the controllers must have a little LCD built in or an LCD add-on.
Post by: RedTide on May 18, 2003, 08:14:08 PM
Post by: Mario on May 18, 2003, 08:24:08 PM
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Originally posted by: Vanilla Thunder
Aggressive advertising is a must. It doesn't even take much more spending or effort on Nintendo's part, they just need to do it much BETTER. For instance, most of Nintendo's TV commercials consist of long, obscure live-action footage, and then just a brief, blink-and-you-miss-it clip of actual game footage at the end. That's not going to sell anything. They have to make commercials like the one for Halo, where the full length of the ad demonstrates the cool things about the game that make it fun, with a narrator hyping it up all throughout. Now THAT works well. Common sense dictates that actually seeing X-wings weave in and out of a nebula frying TIEs in brilliant explosions of light will appeal to more people then I guy wheeling around in his office cubicle (as the case with Rogue Leader). It's just common sense.
Backwards comptability is a must. Most of my friends purchased a PS2 with the intent of playing all those old Final Fantasy games they missed, and I see no reason why the new Nintendo system shouldn't appeal to more with a huge library of great games right out the gate. It'd be well worth the time and effort to implement this feature, especially considering that the competition will no doubt have it.
Wireless controllers is also a must. The only people who wouldn't agree are those that still use corded controllers. For me, there's no going back after going wireless. Perhaps longer cords would suffice, but nothing beats wireless, especially when you're playing with a bunch of friends.
Nintendo needs to have TWO killer apps right at launch, one being a phenomenal single player game (preferably Mario) and the other being an insanely fun multiplayer game (like Super Smash Bros., which packs TONS of selling power). They should round out the arsenal with a bunch of high quality, small-time first-and-second party projects, and then a good amount of third party titles, with as many exclusives as they can garner and as many of the multi-platform ones too. The system itself should come with a playable demo disk highlighting some upcoming killer apps and other games.
Nintendo should really listen to the fans regarding its games. Appeal to everybody by throwing in nostalgic touches for the hardcore fans (like the Tanooki Suit and the Koopa Kids in a new Mario title), while appealing to the mainstream crowd with very rich, pleasing graphics and music. It's all about enrichening the franchises so as to strengthen the fanbase. It's worked for Nintendo in the past, they should just kick it into overdrive next generation.
And the system should probably be a solid silver, black... or white. Personally, a mostly white system with black lining would look really tight. Either way it should be small and sleek. DVD playback would be nice, and easy to implement, since DVD technology will be relatively inexpensive by that point. It'd still be worth it, too, since many people find more value in combining two different forms of entertainment into one. In Japanese culture, it's a must, since home space is so essential for many.
Anyways, just some thoughts.
*claps* Well said! Now someone get this guy a job at Nintendo.
Post by: Tael on May 18, 2003, 08:25:19 PM
Post by: Gamefreak on May 18, 2003, 08:37:37 PM
And heck, I'll be playing Melee regularly until the next Smash Bros. comes out, and that alone makes backward compatibility a must. Not to mention that Nintendo could say...give away a free copy of Wind Waker for those who preordered the next Zelda game on the next system?
Post by: RedTide on May 18, 2003, 09:12:00 PM
Post by: Plugabugz on May 19, 2003, 01:36:32 AM
.A mature stance to their next console, backwards compatibility, and a broad, both original and franchise mix of games for all ages (Both first through third party developed) at worldwide launch, followed by yet more development of more games on this same mix of quality, with a launch date *just* before Microsoft and Sony have theirs out (Two, three months?), and Nintendo can take first place.
Post by: StRaNgE on May 19, 2003, 08:42:18 AM
Having a library of 300 + games as well as a built in GBA Player adding another 300+ games plus whatever titles that are ready at launch gives a definite advantage over a system that only has a few good launch titles. An extra 20 bux to the price is something I think most would have no problem shelling out to have all those extra games at there finger tips. Especially for those who did not own a cube not to mention those who did and don't want to clutter up their entertainment area with multiple consoles.
It's pretty much a must have, I know if playstaton 3 and X-box 2 do implement that feature I will have to pick up those systems so I can have such huge game library at my disposal.
it's more then worth the time cost and effort to have this. It is one of the primary reasons playstation 2 had so much hype and did so well.
Post by: PIAC on May 19, 2003, 10:28:59 AM
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Originally posted by: StRaNgE
It sure is surprising to see anyone saying that backwards compatibility is not worth the time or effort.
Having a library of 300 + games as well as a built in GBA Player adding another 300+ games
if they went with a GB player, not just a GBA player that extends to about 1000-1500+ games
Post by: Vanilla Thunder on May 19, 2003, 11:32:14 AM
I think Nintendo should use full-size DVDs for their games, or else the competition will have an advantage over them with MUCH larger disk capacity. Seriously, having to spread Resident Evil over two GC disks when they both could have fit effortlessly on an X-Box disk with room to spare is pretty... pathetic. My personal favorite game, Eternal Darkness, also was victimized by limited disk space, sacrificing the quality of its otherwise awesome cinema scenes so that it could make it all onto one disk. Sure, it may be a foolproof against piracy, but I'm sure there's other ways around the problem without slicing so much into disk capacity. Nintendo needs to be a little more conservative with its action and meet the competition toe-to-toe.
Madden is important. I hang out with a lot of "jocks" (I really don't like that word, it's stereotypical), and to them Madden IS bread and butter. And, according to sales charts, it's the bread and butter of hundreds of millions of other gamers all across North America. No matter how "universally" popular Madden may be worldwide, delivering the top version of the game on Nintendo's next system and billing it as the best will help to establish a strong userbase for the console her in the states, something that pays off in the long run. Also, Madden is MUCH more plausible then GTA, and Nintendo already has good ties to EA.
Another place where Nintendo needs to put its money is at retail chains. Back when the consoles launched, it tore at my heart to go to the mall with some friends and see EB and FYE filled to the brim with X-Box advertisements, while a single GC kiosk, some obscure posters, and cardboard stand-up were tucked away in the back. Most of the people browsing through the stores there had no idea that not just one new system was coming out, but TWO. Nintendo's presence at the market was overshadowed by Microsoft's more aggressive stance on pushing the product into the lime light. With the next system, they need to change all of that. They need to gamble a bit and pay the big bucks to secure the advertising rights in major retail outlets, like Electronic Botique. They need to do what they did with Resident Evil's launch; they need to secure several months of Nintendo-heavy advertising, so that Nintendo game posters and cardboard cut-outs and memorbolia adorn the windows at the front of the store, so that several koisks are available for play, so that the bags are imprinted with the Nintendo logo, and so that the employees answer the phone saying, "Greetings from EB, where we are celebrating Nintendo week! How can I help you?" They did it around the time Resident Evil launched, but that wasn't nearly soon enough. They need to do it at LAUNCH. And they need to do it ten times greater. Nintendo needs to practically force their new system into the casual consumer's hands. Nothing else will do the trick.
Imagine coupling that EB advertising strategy with a launch that came a full year AHEAD of the competition. A huge, explosive, well-known launch, and then a full year to follow through with and build momentum, to build a head start. They need this. All it takes is a good single and multiplayer game packed full of Nintendo charm, a wide array of popular third-party titles, and the willingness to spend some money on increasing awareness. Put this all a year in advance, and you'll have units selling like crazy.
Post by: Nik Jam on May 19, 2003, 01:07:16 PM
Post by: Don'tHate742 on May 19, 2003, 04:17:39 PM
Damn it why don't they try to see it from our perspective.
One more thing, everyone who doesn't think having backwards and GBA compatibility is good thing, well look how big the library would be just at the start! Probably 10 times as more than any other system, and filled with so many quality titles. Anyone who has a GBA or Gamecube would immediately buy it, because who wouldn't want to play there favorite gba games on a nice bright tv as long as you'd like?
That's what Nintendo is trying to do right now, there trying to convert there GBA players to Gamecube players which is a smart but very hard move. Nintendo knows it would be rich like all hell if they got most of the people who own GBA (what's the count like 100 Million!?) to buy a gamecube also. They need to advertise though.
Post by: Rich on May 19, 2003, 05:46:22 PM
Post by: PIAC on May 19, 2003, 08:09:53 PM
err... instant controller problem fix
Post by: thecubedcanuck on May 20, 2003, 07:14:46 AM
Make a product more suited to the masses. The masses want violent gory games, if you dont give them that, then they wont come.
Trying to get people to like your product is futile, the simpler approach is to make a product they like already.
Many here will hate this, but to become number 1, it is a must.
Post by: JoeFalco on May 20, 2003, 07:25:43 AM
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Post by: LAZ on July 04, 2003, 05:14:07 PM
There are some issues with the timing but I'm going to dispell some of the other systems hype right away.
To tell you the truth I don't believe the next set of games are going to be about graphics only but thats another thread... if nintendo realizes this then they may figure out they had a HL2 all along...
There is going to be something of a maturing peroid for some of these systems. The key to being on top is the race to understanding what the new system is going to be capable of as soon as possible( in real games)..
PS2 is going to use Cell processors and lots of them meaning that programmers will have to adjust to see the true power of the PS3... weakness number one... Remember how long it took to see a really good games on the PS2?
Post by: LAZ on July 04, 2003, 05:28:16 PM
Nintendo needs to bring the GBA and the GC alittle closer software wise to win or capitalize on it's strenghts.
IF nintendo makes there stuff backwards compatible then guess what they are going to make the best games that year since they already know how to program the GC and they know what a good game is. With advances in chip manufacturing and current est of die shrinking (0.09mm) the next GB can be a gamecube on a chip almost. If they can figure out how to pull that off then guess what GC chips will be in both next generation system( next GB and next GC) which means more developers because every one makes a game for the GB period. Then they could use panisonic to make a portable drive reader for it... then guess what you will have a GBNext player already built into every gamecube2. But this does not mean that nintendo can not use larger disk for the new system because if it uses bigger disk then smaller disk will always fit in a top loaded system.
Post by: LAZ on July 04, 2003, 05:29:18 PM
Post by: ThePerm on July 10, 2003, 02:10:00 PM
what im hoping Nintendo does in terms of media is allows it so that it can play old gcn games(hehe old games..some of them havnt came out yet hehehehehe) as well as gcn2 games(same physical size as gcn disks only 20gb) and DVDs...Nintendo will have to come up with a way that allows it to have firm ware and at the same time prevent piracy. Maybe a boot disk that has drivers for a dvd card that alters firmware but is specifically designed in a way that it isonly programmable to be reprogramemd to play dvds. Then again xbox be damned..its sad. Iv nexcr seen a system more cracked.. i mean hackers raped xbox.
