Are we about to discover everything about the series that we've held dear for 25 years? UPDATE: Confirmed!
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/28755
The official timeline for The Legend of Zelda series might be revealed, thanks to a fan translation of the recently released Hyrule Historia book. Update: We've confirmed the timeline is indeed in the book.
We don't know all the details at the moment, but if true, the timeline is even more complex than usually imagined, featuring a trio of alternatives after Ocarina of Time. Nintendo has always been secretive about the franchise's anthology, so to give it all away in this one book is a huge surprise. You can find the rumoured timeline below. We will continue to follow the story as it develops.
Main Timeline
1. Skyward Sword
2. The Minish Cap
3. Four Swords
4. Ocarina of Time
Split 1: Link defeats Ganon - childhood branch
1. Majora's Mask
2. Twilight Princess
3. Four Swords Adventures
Split 2: Link defeats Ganon - adult branch
1. The Wind Waker
2. Phantom Hourglass
3. Spirit Tracks
Split 3: Link fails in Ocarina Of Time
1. A Link to the Past
2. Oracles of Seasons and Ages
3. Link's Awakening
4. The Legend of Zelda
5. Zelda II
timelines with splits are failures + lttp belongs at the very end
Whether one likes it or not, if this is true, it is canon. It is the official timeline. Personally I do not mind it at all.
No one but the most hackneyed writer...Nintendo
No one but the most hackneyed writer...Nintendo
Yeah, that checks out.
It seems like Nintendo just wanted to give a reason why there's a group of games that never mention the events of Ocarina, rather than just accept that those games were made before Ocarina and leaving it at that.Oracle of Ages and Seasons were not made before Ocarina of Time.
It's even easier to do things the way Nintendo likes to and do whatever they feel like, continuity be damned.
It's even easier to do things the way Nintendo likes to and do whatever they feel like, continuity be damned.
This is the same logic which killed Star Trek.
It's even easier to do things the way Nintendo likes to and do whatever they feel like, continuity be damned.
This is the same logic which killed Star Trek.
How does Link have a green cap in Skyward Sword if Minish Cap comes afterwards?Green just happened to be the Knight's graduating color his year of graduate. Notice some people are in Yellow and Purple.
Also, Link's shield bears a cross in Legend of Zelda, so sometime after Link's Awakening Christian Missionaries arrive in Hyrule.
I like to talk about the timeline because I like the Zelda series a lot. It is my favourite videogame series by far. The screwed up nature of the timeline is annoying because it gives the impression that Nintendo doesn't care. To them Zelda is just some product to sell to us.
With creative works, though I know money is almost always a factor, I like it best when it feels like the artist cares about and has passion for his work. This new album or new movie is a product they are trying to sell to me but within that it seems like the artist wanted to make something he could be really proud of. Even if there is no real artistic intention, I like it when at least the illusion of that is there. Who here just sees the songs, books, movies, TV shows, or videogames they love as just mindless entertainment? There are always the ones that we form some emotional attachment to.
So Zelda having a **** timeline hurts the series for me because it's a big marker saying "this is just some product we make to sell you. We don't give a **** as long as you give us your money." In a similar way I hate stuff like Link's Crossbow Training because Zelda didn't used to have spin-offs and spin-offs are sheer product. Zelda is less "special" with spin-offs or sloppy execution of the timeline. If Nintendo cared as much about Zelda as the fans do, they wouldn't have any problems with the timeline.
What if.... Zelda Wii U united the timelines?Sure, It could be like Sonic Generations from what I hear.
Is such a thing even possible?
What if.... Zelda Wii U united the timelines?Sure, It could be like Sonic Generations from what I hear.
Is such a thing even possible?
Feel the Hate for the Game you have brought. Now Channel that. Come with me to the Dark Side. We will let you Use your own mask.What if.... Zelda Wii U united the timelines?Sure, It could be like Sonic Generations from what I hear.
Is such a thing even possible?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
can i just say though that alot of you who are complaining about the timeline are ungrateful brats, think about it the people who made the first game had no way of knowing that there would be a sequel much less that they were working on what would be one of the best video game franchises of all time there was no timeline in mind for it eiji aonuma has even been quoted as saying that he would rather focus on gameplay than the developers be distracted by where the story should fit in despite the fact that a way to tie it all together was not the first thing on their mind the fans have still been asking for it and nintendo finally gives it to you because its what the fans have been asking for it and you are complaining that it's not how you wanted it to be this is how it is it doesn't cheapen the game any it in fact it doesn't change anything you already know or love about the games it just shows that nintendo gives a damn about what the fans want and how do you thank them by bitching that it's not good enough
Why don't we have a "what if Link failed" timeline for EVERY game?
Actually, it makes sense that it splits that way at Ocarina if you accept the general rules of time travel that writers over the years have established. When you go back in time to change things, you create a new timeline, so splitting it three ways there is logical according to those rules. That explains why there are three splits, and also why Ocarina is where it splits, being as focused on time travel as it is (though you'd then have to look at Oracle of Ages more closely).
I wouldn't mind a cosmic Legend of Zelda where you interact and fight against or fight alongside Nayru, Din, and Farore.
i agree that i don't think nintendo ever really had anything in mind to connect the games but i also believe that depending on how you look at this timeline it makes alot of sense but thats not the point i am arguing i am saying that nintendo wanted to please the fans who all wanted to "Link" get it? the games together and they made this to do that when they could have just as easily ignored it or kept teasing us with a non existent timeline they aren't doing this as a money grabbing move they did it to please the fans and you guys still aren't happy like it or not you got what you wished for now you have to live with it i doubt its gonna get changed anytime soon or at all i personally like it and think it makes sensecan i just say though that alot of you who are complaining about the timeline are ungrateful brats, think about it the people who made the first game had no way of knowing that there would be a sequel much less that they were working on what would be one of the best video game franchises of all time there was no timeline in mind for it eiji aonuma has even been quoted as saying that he would rather focus on gameplay than the developers be distracted by where the story should fit in despite the fact that a way to tie it all together was not the first thing on their mind the fans have still been asking for it and nintendo finally gives it to you because its what the fans have been asking for it and you are complaining that it's not how you wanted it to be this is how it is it doesn't cheapen the game any it in fact it doesn't change anything you already know or love about the games it just shows that nintendo gives a damn about what the fans want and how do you thank them by bitching that it's not good enough
People aren't faulting this timeline because "it's not good enough". They're faulting it because it doesn't make any sense within the context of the actual games, and the sticking point is really that supposed "3rd split" after Ocarina. Nintendo basically took all the games they didn't want to deal with and threw them into a single group regardless of whether that made sense.
Personally, I've been of the inclination for quite a few years now that Nintendo has no earthly idea what they're doing with the Zelda "timeline", and that they never had one to begin with. So long as the games are good and the individual stories are engaging, that's fine. I just wish Nintendo would stop publicly pretending that there is a grand plan when it's obvious that they really didn't have one. Skyward Sword seems the first real stab by Nintendo to establish a continuous story, so I'd rather they just established that SS is a complete story reboot and leave it at that.
There's something major missing from this list: Where the hell is Link's Crossbow Training?who cares about that where is smash bros and soul calibur 2 man
I wouldn't mind a cosmic Legend of Zelda where you interact and fight against or fight alongside Nayru, Din, and Farore.
It's really weird that Skyward Sword barely even pays lip service to those characters, considering the role they played in Hyrule's creation. I guess we'll probably see that story the next time Nintendo decides to create a "true" beginning to the Zelda timeline.
This thread makes me believe I am not as big a Nintendo fan as the rest of you, because I don't care one bit about the official timeline or any other.Doubting your Belief You Are.
I'm far more interested in seeing the official Mario timeline.All alternate reality. Main series takes place in the same point just different Multiverses.
I'm far more interested in seeing the official Mario timeline.
