Gaming Forums => General Gaming => Topic started by: NeoStar9X on September 25, 2011, 10:46:34 AM
Title: No longer finding competitive online fun. Anyone else?
Post by: NeoStar9X on September 25, 2011, 10:46:34 AM
Came to a conclusion this weekend that caused me to cancel my pre-order for Battlefield 3. I simply no longer care about competitive online play. As far as action goes anyway. Racing against others still is fun and I think is the most fair out of all the genres that have competitive multiplayer. It's just as relaxing to me as single player play. So that might be the only exception.
I guess my focus on it in recent years was an attempt to be apart of the crowd. Connect with other gamers. Also it could be a general acceptance and attempt to deal with the direction the gaming industry was headed in. Being primarily a single player gamer for years (RPGs and Platformers) the focus on multiplayer was something I didn't care for until I got into MMORPGs. However that was cooperative primarily and I could ignore PvP if I didn't want to take part. I tired of compromising what I'm really interested in to be honest in the end. That's not to say I didn't enjoy myself when I play Call of Duty, etc. I just don't want to do it anymore going forward.
This thankfully will save me a LOT of money as I take a pass on some of these games and spend more time on MMO ($15 a month is cheaper then several $60 or less games a month or every other month). Or I could wait until some of these upcoming games are dirt cheap just so I can experience the single player game.
Anyone else find they are tired of the competitive scene? Adjusting around it? Cooperative > competitive?
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Post by: BeautifulShy on September 25, 2011, 10:57:19 AM
Hmm I guess I have found as I aged that I don't find competitive play isn't really my thing anymore. I can find room for maybe one main competitive game with a smattering of co-op games and single player games but for the most part I find having online games which is just hanging out with others or playing cooperatively with each other is more my thing as far as online games go.
I guess it depends on the type of competitive play we are talking about and what genre of game it is. For the most part I think I have kinda grown out of competive online games.
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Post by: KDR_11k on September 25, 2011, 10:58:49 AM
Nope, no such worry for me. I don't enjoy most mainstream FPSes online though because I don't like the hide and seek balancing of e.g. Call of Duty. Something like Space Marine is fine.
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Post by: Morari on September 25, 2011, 12:05:30 PM
Came to a conclusion this weekend that caused me to cancel my pre-order for Battlefield 3. I simply no longer care about competitive online play.
Battlefield? There's your problem. You need a game that's fun to play instead. Go back and play Quake or Unreal. :P
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Post by: broodwars on September 25, 2011, 12:41:31 PM
I haven't really cared for your typical "deathmatch" style of multiplayer probably since the N64 days with Perfect Dark. I find it gets repetitive quickly and boils down to everyone using the same weapons in the same places at almost the same time every match. It certainly doesn't help that since Modern Warfare released, all the weapons in online FPS games seem to be the same: a half-dozen variants on a submachine gun/assault rifle, 1 sniper rifle, and a rocket launcher. It just gets dull fast.
That said, I have recently gotten into playing Resistance 3's multiplayer, which is severely unbalanced right now (the Atomizer and shotgun are pretty overpowered) but very fun. I think the key there is that you have a wide variety of weapons with these crazy alt-fires that change how you react to a given situation. For instance, the Atomizer is basically a flamethrower when you get down to it that shoots electricity instead of fire...that has an alternate fire that releases a singularity that drags foes out of cover. Then there's the Rossmore shotgun that can (when leveled-up) shoot fire and has an alt-fire that releases an incendiary grenade. Then there's old standbys like the Auger, which allows you to shoot and see through walls like Perfect Dark's Farsight with an alt-fire that places a shield that repels incoming fire. I could go on, but it all leads to a much more fun experience for me, despite the multiplayer being pretty standard FPS.
Incidentally, I thought Bioshock 2's multiplayer worked pretty well as well, since you had all these players with all these plasmids running around, and you could collect XP doing tasks other than shooting people. Uncharted 2's co-op was really good, though it's Deathmatch modes were pretty "blah".
Oddly enough, the multiplayer I thought I really would enjoy in Killzone 3, because of the innovative "Warzone" and "Objective" modes? Eh, all the weapons feel more or less the same and players on both teams more or less look the same, if you can see them at all. Fun, but not spectacular.
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Post by: Oblivion on September 25, 2011, 02:23:53 PM
I felt like Bioshock 2's multiplayer was fairly boring.
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Post by: S-U-P-E-R on September 25, 2011, 04:03:47 PM
I haven't really cared for your typical "deathmatch" style of multiplayer probably since the N64 days with Perfect Dark. I find it gets repetitive quickly and boils down to everyone using the same weapons in the same places at almost the same time every match.
Did you know Perfect Dark has random weapon settings available? There's a group of us that play the XBLA version online all the time...
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Post by: broodwars on September 25, 2011, 04:22:27 PM
I haven't really cared for your typical "deathmatch" style of multiplayer probably since the N64 days with Perfect Dark. I find it gets repetitive quickly and boils down to everyone using the same weapons in the same places at almost the same time every match.
Did you know Perfect Dark has random weapon settings available? There's a group of us that play the XBLA version online all the time...
I don't have my 360 hooked up very often, but I appreciate the offer. I just never feel like playing the games I have on my 360 enough to hook it up. But I'll keep an eye out the next time I'm on my 360 (whenever that is).
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Post by: S-U-P-E-R on September 25, 2011, 04:43:34 PM
Just PM me or friend request me on XBL when you do and I'll invite you to our reindeer games. That goes for anyone else who is down for some PD. :3
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 25, 2011, 07:44:36 PM
I've never really gotten into competitive online multiplayer with random people. I love playing against people I know, but I almost never feel like jumping in against strangers.
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Post by: Kwolf on September 26, 2011, 06:05:16 AM
I actually stopped playing these things about in 2004. Voice chat was starting to become normal and I just found I didn't like hearing people get angry or mad all the time. It wasn't even voice chat that killed it directly, but the attitude of most general gamers mixed in with it.
I just don't even want to try to deal with the elitism, whining, angry, or complaining that seems to fill those kinda games anymore. (Kinda hypocritical since I am whining about it now :) )
It's not like I am against online games, I love playing coop with friends and family. I love occasionally running into new people to play with too through my friends. I just like to play things coop now with people who want to talk and be friendly, than play with people who don't understand games are for fun.
So I guess the answer is I just got burned out on them, and now most of my online gaming comes to the rare occasions that I can play with more relaxed friends ,rather than trying to deal with public competitive games.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on September 26, 2011, 06:38:54 AM
Sometimes its fun, but other times you run into assholes who think things like K/D ratio and all that crap are the only thing that matters in life and they cuss on the microphones and say you suck and this and that. These sorts of players only play the games to stroke their egos, and they kinda ruin it because I'd rather just play for fun.
The thing is, many of these games like COD are rated M, but most of the problem players and indeed most players on there in general are probably too young for the M rating and shouldn't even be playing it at all. Its too bad there is no way the ratings system can't be strictly enforced, and I'm not just saying in terms of age, I mean in maturity too... because just because someone is over 17 doesn't mean they are mature. It would be nice to be able to play a game without seeing avatars of swastikas, penises, or klansmen. These retards are exactly the sort of people the M rating should exclude.
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Post by: Ceric on September 26, 2011, 07:46:18 AM
Didn't Microsoft at one point try to split XBox Live in such a way that groups with similar habits would play together.
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Post by: SixthAngel on September 26, 2011, 08:35:38 AM
The only online multiplayer game I've played in years has been Team Fortress 2. That's because it was basically free (until I paid 2.50) and I typically play classes that play very different from most fps.
I really hate that companies are focusing so much on not just competitive online but the very tip top of the players. Starcraft 2 was designed around the competitive scene. The way battlenet locks you in so they can control tv in Korea to how they released only one race in single player. DOTA2 is Valve's next big game and they had a million dollar tournament BEFORE THE BETA was even released to the public. I already despise the amount of "watch me play" videos but this was ridiculous because unless it was an exact copy of the first one you wouldn't even know if they did something right or wrong much less the fact that the pool of players was obviously ridiculously small for an expensive tournament.
The more ubercompetitive a game gets the less fun I have. The classic example is Smash Bros (final destination, etc) but I see it in other games now too like Team Fortess 2. Competive involves no random critical hits quite often as well as strict weapon and player limits despite the fact that I wouldn't play with so few players unless there was nothing else available.
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Post by: Ceric on September 26, 2011, 09:28:01 AM
The only online multiplayer game I've played in years has been Team Fortress 2. That's because it was basically free (until I paid 2.50) and I typically play classes that play very different from most fps.
I really hate that companies are focusing so much on not just competitive online but the very tip top of the players. Starcraft 2 was designed around the competitive scene. The way battlenet locks you in so they can control tv in Korea to how they released only one race in single player. DOTA2 is Valve's next big game and they had a million dollar tournament BEFORE THE BETA was even released to the public. I already despise the amount of "watch me play" videos but this was ridiculous because unless it was an exact copy of the first one you wouldn't even know if they did something right or wrong much less the fact that the pool of players was obviously ridiculously small for an expensive tournament.
The more ubercompetitive a game gets the less fun I have. The classic example is Smash Bros (final destination, etc) but I see it in other games now too like Team Fortess 2. Competive involves no random critical hits quite often as well as strict weapon and player limits despite the fact that I wouldn't play with so few players unless there was nothing else available.
I'm going to say your being unfair to Starcraft 2 a little. There is a lot more Single Player content then warranted by how Blizzards been making money off of the Starcraft brand for soooo many years, multiplayer. It might only be one race but it has a lot of features that the multiplayer do not and enough content to be a satisfying game on its own. Just as much as the original SC and Broodwars.
Now Warcraft 3 I would say yeah that criticism would be warranted. You couldn't even get every unit in Single player. (whereas in SC2 it has units you can't get in Multiplayer like the Walkers whose names escape me but they can shoot Land and Air at the same time for relatively cheap. A swarm of them with a Research ship can be devastating.)
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Post by: ejamer on September 26, 2011, 11:53:43 AM
I've never really gotten into competitive online multiplayer with random people. I love playing against people I know, but I almost never feel like jumping in against strangers.
Strongly agree, with the caveat that I usually enjoy playing with people that I "know" from online forums. It helps when the game isn't straight competitive though - either cooperative or team-based are more interesting for me.
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Post by: UltimatePartyBear on September 26, 2011, 03:55:50 PM
I've never really gotten into competitive online multiplayer with random people. I love playing against people I know, but I almost never feel like jumping in against strangers.
This. I always liked playing with my real life friends, but they've all either grown up too much or don't have enough time.
Also, my Internet connection was too crappy for online gaming most of the time for a long time. It's improved dramatically since a couple of months ago. I should probably try again.
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Post by: Stogi on September 26, 2011, 06:53:54 PM
I think it's the type of games you guys play. I really really love 'Gun Game' in Black Ops. It's fast and frantic, yet requires strategy on how best to use your next gun. And ending with the ballistic knife, a knife I actually own and love, is the best thing ever.
I can only see it getting better if instead of facing 5 other people, I faced 5 of my friends. I just don't have that many friends who have free time when I have free time and want to gather and play video games. Usually, we gather and get drunk.
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Post by: Morari on September 26, 2011, 07:15:50 PM
Soldier of Fortune had a game mode almost identical to Gun Game. It was pretty fun.
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Post by: Oblivion on September 26, 2011, 08:19:13 PM
I bet if you played Demon's Souls you'd find online play fun.
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Post by: NeoStar9X on September 26, 2011, 08:39:21 PM
Sometimes I wonder if it really is the community or if it's just war game after war game. Reason I was interested in Battlefield 3 was because the last FPS I really enjoyed playing and I mean a lot was Battlefield: Bad Company 2. Everything I've played after it (mainly Call of Duty games, Resistance 3, Killzone 3, and even the Conduits and Goldeneye) just hasn't provided that level of enjoyment even though they were fun. The biggest difference I can think of is BC2 was very cooperative to a large degree, especially since I mainly played the Medic and Engineer classes. I'd say it was equal on that front as it was competitive. You had to work as a team where everything else is really every man or woman for themselves. So perhaps it is the game modes as suggested in the end and not simply a case of being stick of FPS in general. In CoD I enjoyed Domination (capture and hold three objectives) a LOT compared to team deathmatch but not many people played that mode. So when forced to play one mode mainly it takes it's toll.
This has caused BF3 to go back on the pre-order list. :( I keep trying to stay away, make a decision, but I guess I'm weak willed. That or nothing really else can fill the void no matter how much I look. Though it could be removed once again tomorrow with how things are going. Changed my mind about MMOs. Still to burnout after I tired FFXIV again. Thankfully I tried that without putting any extra money down.
I'd like to play mainly with real life friends but that hasn't been an option since freshman year of college. I recall we had a semi dorm wide game of Return to Castle Wolfenstein a few times. That was a LOT of fun.
Edit: Bah off the pre-order list again. Need to practice better self-control in gaming.
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Post by: Ceric on September 27, 2011, 11:17:06 AM
The epitome of Local Multiplayer is College Dorms. If you desperately need that feeling again you'll have to go back to living in a College Dorm or equivalent (Some Frat houses work as well.)
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Post by: oohhboy on September 27, 2011, 12:08:39 PM
I don't play games competitively mostly due to the fact it sucks the fun out of it. When I mean competitive I mean starting with "Clans" and upwards from there. I have no problems playing competitive games, but once you get groups forming with the labels and internal politics, playing other clans for rankings, it brings the worse out of people and attracts the worse people.
Then there is the personal aspect where now there is something at stake real or imaginary so you want to win more leading to a feedback loop where you start putting in ever increasing amount of time and effort to get that enhanced winning high. The game becomes work as you go practice rather than playing the game. Then I have to personally deal with some of the most offensive people who have no filters of any kind which put the term Assburgers to shame. I don't mind if your crass with your jokes, but holy ****, some people have issues.
I have absolutely no problems playing/joining with social groups/clans though, as they play for fun and are quite happy to toss out the losers. I still want to win, but losing isn't an issue unless someone intentionally tanks the game.
I also play games that inherently cooperative like L4D2 and Urban Terror in CTF mode. I avoid the Mega shooters(COD, BF, CSS etc) like the plague as they have serious player base maturity issues coupled game design that encourage agression even with fellow teammates with things like rankings, promotions, achievements.
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Post by: Morari on September 27, 2011, 12:14:01 PM
Having a "clan" is about the only way to consistently play team-based games. Playing with random people generally results in poor cooperation and bad game experiences.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on September 27, 2011, 12:20:16 PM
You can get good games with random people, but its a crap shoot. All it takes is just one retard on either team to drag the whole team down and ruin things.
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Post by: broodwars on September 27, 2011, 12:31:36 PM
Yeah, I once was in a really amazing game in Uncharted 2's version of "hoard mode" (3 humans vs. waves of increasingly nasty CPU enemies) with 2 other random players. We made it all the way to the last wave, which was all armored dudes. One of my "allies" accidentally took me out with a grenade while I was trying to reach a rocket launcher (you cannot be revived from an explosive death). The CPUs took him out soon after, so it was just the last player versus 5 armored CPUs. The guy then systematically took out all 5 over the course of the next few minutes. It was pretty awe-inspiring.
I've seen really great teams come together through random matchmaking, and I've seen terrible teams (mostly in games that place emphasis on individual progress like Killzone 3). The thing is, I don't play these games enough to want to be shackled to clans. It's like my best friend with WoW, where he's compelled to play WoW twice a week at specific times because that's when his clan is on.
And yeah, voice chat is both the best and worst thing to ever happen to online gaming. I was playing Killzone 3 in Objective mode the other day trying to finally win a game as a member of the defensive team. While the rest of my "team" was running to engage the opposing team, I bunkered down by one of the objectives and started placing defensive turrets. The enemy team would keep respawning, and all they needed was one moment of weakness at each of our objectives and they'd win. We ended up winning, and someone on my team with a Mic called me a "bitch" for actually defending an objective rather than doing glorified team deathmatch. And that's one of the kinder things I've heard in online chat.
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Post by: oohhboy on September 27, 2011, 12:44:39 PM
It really depends on the game. L4D2 for example requires extremely high level of cooperation to play effectively raising the bar on what an acceptable player is. Losing one player out of 4 decreases team effectiveness almost by half. It means random play is highly undesirable in Verses. I actually joined 2 clans in L4D2, but they don't play for rankings, don't require tags and use the group functions like group chat to better organise games. I provides a nice floor to level of play on your team. What happens on the other team isn't too much of a problem unless they rage quit when playing against randoms. Friends only games though are always random unless there is some special reason, like someones birthday.
CTF mode in Urban Terror has a lower cooperative threshold while maintaining the need for some level of coop play. If you have 10 players a side, 1-2 subpar people isn't going to tank the game since the teams are generally random, almost ensuring both teams have have the same amount of thickheads. Also having a smaller player base means people start knowing each other, at least within the game, so there is less incentive to be a dick. Active admins and monitoring bots with fairly low cost from getting TKed mean TKers/hackers have pretty minimal impact before they are kicked/banned.
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Post by: Stogi on September 27, 2011, 03:40:58 PM
Does no one else feel a sense of accomplishment when you out play a group of random people? That's all competitive online is; outsmarting, outplaying, and outmaneuvering your enemies consistently.
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Post by: Ceric on September 27, 2011, 04:24:06 PM
Does no one else feel a sense of accomplishment when you out play a group of random people? That's all competitive online is; outsmarting, outplaying, and outmaneuvering your enemies consistently.
No because normally I'm getting creamed so much when I'm trying to learn a game like that I just stop playing.
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Post by: Stogi on September 27, 2011, 05:08:59 PM
That's what single player is for.
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Post by: broodwars on September 27, 2011, 05:12:31 PM
The single-player's job is to convey its own experience, its own story separate and unique from multiplayer. It shouldn't be the job of the single-player campaign to prepare you for the cheap asshats you run into online.
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Post by: Ceric on September 27, 2011, 05:16:52 PM
And let me tell ya it normally does a terrible terrible job of it.
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Post by: Mop it up on September 27, 2011, 06:24:36 PM
I've never really found competitive multiplayer to be all that enjoyable, online or otherwise. I'd much rather play co-op because it's a lot more fun to overcome challenges with a buddy. Unfortunately, it's pretty difficult to find co-op games, especially looking outside the genres of FPS and action-RPGs, and even those usually just have online co-op and no local.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on September 28, 2011, 01:07:54 AM
I've never really found competitive multiplayer to be all that enjoyable, online or otherwise. I'd much rather play co-op because it's a lot more fun to overcome challenges with a buddy. Unfortunately, it's pretty difficult to find co-op games, especially looking outside the genres of FPS and action-RPGs, and even those usually just have online co-op and no local.
Double Dragon, Contra, and River City Ransom are three games I can recall from the NES era which had great local co-op. Back in those days online play didn't exist, so this was what you had.
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 28, 2011, 06:12:24 PM
If you want good local co-op on Wii, check out a game called Alien Syndrome. It got fairly poor reviews (whoever reviewed it for NWR gave it an unjustifiable 3.5) but I loved it. It made great use of pointer control and was a Gauntlet-esque type of game with loot elements. I never got a chance to play the co-op, but it supported up to 4 players locally (no online).
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Post by: Ymeegod on September 28, 2011, 07:44:16 PM
I'm ole school Fortress gamer, played it since Quake's mods and still play TF2.
Usually I have voice mic off which mutes everyone. Not in a clan but the server I play on will scramble the teams if things become too one-sided which is a great feature.
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Post by: Plugabugz on October 11, 2011, 10:24:59 AM
I'm a bit late to this but online multiplayer can run the risk of ruining a game, as what happened with me and mario kart wii. i was playing and enjoyed it and my online rank improved until i reached around 7-8000 rank and upward. About then did i stopped running into the "fun" players (as in they were competitive and a good challenge, but still entertaining) and started to increasingly run into the players who werent actually having fun but turned the game into "how few mistakes can we make" and the cheaters who complete a lap in 3 seconds.
I stopped playing shortly thereafter. The vacuum was sucking the fun dry.
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Post by: Morari on October 11, 2011, 11:29:14 AM
Um... isn't a racing game always about how few mistakes you make? Mario Kart only differs slightly because it seems to punish skill by giving out Blue Shell like candy to those behind you.
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Post by: Stogi on October 11, 2011, 04:37:29 PM
The only mode I play in COD is Hardcore. It's where inexperience goes to die. One shot kill with most guns. I usually just hold down half the map with a silenced SPAS shotgun. It's extremely rewarding to get a 10+ kill streak because it's extremely hard to do so. You are using a weapon with the worst range in the game.
In Battlefield, i tend to be either assault or a medic. In Rush, the only mode I play, my entire goal is to get behind their spawn point. That's when I hang out, provide support and let my team mates spawn off of me.
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Post by: Plugabugz on October 11, 2011, 05:26:17 PM
Um... isn't a racing game always about how few mistakes you make? Mario Kart only differs slightly because it seems to punish skill by giving out Blue Shell like candy to those behind you.
Yes, but by that point its not about AH YOU HIT ME WITH A RED SHELL! but one person does it and you drop from first to 12th because they all pass you at once with like 1 or 2 seconds between them.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on October 11, 2011, 08:13:41 PM
The only mode I play in COD is Hardcore. It's where inexperience goes to die. One shot kill with most guns. I usually just hold down half the map with a silenced SPAS shotgun. It's extremely rewarding to get a 10+ kill streak because it's extremely hard to do so. You are using a weapon with the worst range in the game.
I used to be obsessed with using the Olympia, because I thought it was the most challenging weapon to master. Not just because of the short range, but also because it only holds two shells and then you have to reload. But by shotgun standards it is the most powerful per shot, and even if you don't kill an enemy with the first shot you can fire off the second round very quickly to do the job.
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Post by: Stogi on October 11, 2011, 08:34:07 PM
If you're talking about Black Ops, I suggest you try my combo. Revolver with an ACOG sight and a Silenced SPAS. Revolver to pick off long shots, the SPAS for everything else.
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Post by: Morari on October 11, 2011, 10:44:44 PM
The only mode I play in COD is Hardcore. It's where inexperience goes to die. One shot kill with most guns.
Heh. Call of Duty and "hardcore" in the same sentence.
Quake2. Instagib. The Edge. ;)
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Post by: Stogi on October 11, 2011, 11:44:23 PM
Don't play PC games. Last time I played a game on the PC it was Max Payne 2 with the Kung Fu (aka AWESOME) mod. Some of my friends I use to play Starcraft with back in the dezzay want me to try out Starcraft 2 so they can quote unquote "whoop my ass like Deebo from Friday", but I can't do it. I spend too much time on my PC as it is; making music, editing video, email and facebooking. Can't play games on it too.
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Post by: Morari on October 12, 2011, 12:37:58 AM
Better drop the Facebook junk so you can game instead. ;)
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on October 12, 2011, 01:58:21 AM
Thanks to this thread I created an Olympia class in Black Ops and used it for the first time in months. My perks were Lightweight Pro, Steady Aim Pro, and Marathon. I was also using Nova Gas and the Jammer as my equipment and the M1911 with extended mags as my secondary. I got 28 kills and only 12 deaths, which is actually about what I would do in a good match with any gun so I'm not quite sure if a shotgun is really an inferior weapon. You just have to know how to use it.
Most people seem to think Sleight of Hand is the best second perk for the Olympia because of the fact you have to reload often, but I've gotten much better results with Steady Aim Pro which means you don't need to mess with aiming it and reloading usually isn't an issue because if I find myself empty I'll just whip out the M1911 and use that until the coast is clear. Any pistol will do really, but I like the M1911 because its shiny and it is the oldest gun in the game I think, so it has a lot of history to it.
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Post by: S-U-P-E-R on October 12, 2011, 06:58:11 AM
I love wet 'n wild pubbie TF2 games, but LFD2 with pubbies is intolerable!
80%+ of my game time is playing fighters, so it's safe to say I get *most* of my fun from competitive playing.
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Post by: leahsdad on October 26, 2011, 03:51:14 PM
I'm ole school Fortress gamer, played it since Quake's mods and still play TF2.
Eh...I also was an old school Fortress gamer, I could spend hours playing it. I've played so many competitive FPS's, from Doom 1 when we called it "deathmatch," Tribes, Unreal, UT, CS, MW2, BF2:BC, the list goes on. And I have to echo the sentiment that I am just tired of playing these games. A few weeks ago I fired up Black Ops for the first time in months, played some FFA for 20 minutes, go so bored that I stopped and played 6 Golden Coins for the rest of the evening. Yes, for my Saturday night, a gameboy game beat Black Ops.
I think age has something to do with it, but also exposure contributes. The more and longer that you play, the more you realize that this genre has really not moved forward, and maybe its been mined for all it's worth.
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Post by: Morari on October 26, 2011, 05:22:49 PM
The more and longer that you play, the more you realize that this genre has really not moved forward, and maybe its been mined for all it's worth.
It has largely moved backward, if anything. Gameplay is slower than ever, the two weapons you're allowed to carry are little more than real world rehashes, health regenerates so that nothing is ever really accomplished or lost. The genre started to stagnate as it stopped catering to players with adequate skill.
Team Deathmatch or 1v1 is always better than FFA anyway.
Title: Re: No longer finding competitive online fun. Anyone else?
Post by: Silenced on October 26, 2011, 07:05:37 PM
I like playing LFD2 with some random people on matchmaking on every map EXCEPT for The Parish. For some reason, whoever is playing as Rochelle speedruns on the bridge finale (its ALWAYS her) and screws our team over (because she either dies and lowers our numbers or gets on the chopper and forces US to speedrun). Versus is pretty fun too with random people (Smokers are the best).
Title: Re: No longer finding competitive online fun. Anyone else?
Post by: Morari on October 26, 2011, 07:15:17 PM
You have to speed run the bridge. Standing still for more than a few seconds is death... especially in Versus.
Title: Re: No longer finding competitive online fun. Anyone else?
Post by: Silenced on October 26, 2011, 07:25:42 PM
While that may hold true on Versus, if your whole team doesn't speedrun, you can become easy prey for a Hunter or any other immediate incapacitating Infected when off by yourself (if you get your whole team your become a bigger target). Also, it can be annoying when not speedrunning and having to deal with the tanks the running guy leaves behind.
Title: Re: No longer finding competitive online fun. Anyone else?
Post by: oohhboy on October 26, 2011, 10:01:17 PM
Rochelle speed running the Bridge wasn't the issue, she wasn't speed running with the TEAM. There are no hero's in Verses, there is the team, whether you are playing infected for survivors. As infected, you can play it a little looser, but the survivors must have a plan and must be in agreement. If she had simply taken "point" and made the team move faster by setting the pace while staying with the team, there isn't a problem. One person speed running like that is enough to get them kicked for tanking a game no matter how "heroic" their run might have been.
On the bridge it really doesn't matter too much what speed you're moving at as long as you're moving as a team. If the entire team can speed run it, more power to you. You have to balance out speed with mistakes, faster you move, more mistakes you make, harder it is to cover each other and more distance someone has to recover when someone needs a hand.
The only time I expect someone to speed run by themselves is when the rest of the team is L4D. Otherwise it's just greifing.
Title: Re: No longer finding competitive online fun. Anyone else?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 27, 2011, 08:41:40 PM
The more and longer that you play, the more you realize that this genre has really not moved forward, and maybe its been mined for all it's worth.
It has largely moved backward, if anything. Gameplay is slower than ever, the two weapons you're allowed to carry are little more than real world rehashes, health regenerates so that nothing is ever really accomplished or lost. The genre started to stagnate as it stopped catering to players with adequate skill.
Team Deathmatch or 1v1 is always better than FFA anyway.
This misguided focus on "realism" is killing the FPS genre. In my opinion, coming from more of a console background, we need a new game in the vein of Perfect Dark or TimeSplitters. Get some craziness in there; give me something that I could never do in real life.
Title: Re: No longer finding competitive online fun. Anyone else?
Post by: broodwars on October 27, 2011, 08:44:13 PM
This misguided focus on "realism" is killing the FPS genre. In my opinion, coming from more of a console background, we need a new game in the vein of Perfect Dark or TimeSplitters. Get some craziness in there; give me something that I could never do in real life.
Resistance 3 says "hello".
Title: Re: No longer finding competitive online fun. Anyone else?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 27, 2011, 08:46:57 PM
This misguided focus on "realism" is killing the FPS genre. In my opinion, coming from more of a console background, we need a new game in the vein of Perfect Dark or TimeSplitters. Get some craziness in there; give me something that I could never do in real life.
Resistance 3 says "hello".
I had no idea that game was like that; you just made me somewhat interested in it.
Title: Re: No longer finding competitive online fun. Anyone else?
Post by: broodwars on October 27, 2011, 08:49:19 PM
This misguided focus on "realism" is killing the FPS genre. In my opinion, coming from more of a console background, we need a new game in the vein of Perfect Dark or TimeSplitters. Get some craziness in there; give me something that I could never do in real life.
Resistance 3 says "hello".
I had no idea that game was like that; you just made me somewhat interested in it.
Resistance is all about the crazy weapons as you run around shooting Chimera (which are essentially aliens) in 1950s America. It sounds right up your alley. It certainly was up mine in that same way.
Title: Re: No longer finding competitive online fun. Anyone else?
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 27, 2011, 09:00:59 PM
This misguided focus on "realism" is killing the FPS genre. In my opinion, coming from more of a console background, we need a new game in the vein of Perfect Dark or TimeSplitters. Get some craziness in there; give me something that I could never do in real life.
Resistance 3 says "hello".
I had no idea that game was like that; you just made me somewhat interested in it.
Resistance is all about the crazy weapons as you run around shooting Chimera (which are essentially aliens) in 1950s America. It sounds right up your alley. It certainly was up mine in that same way.
Nice. Even though I use my PS3 every day for Netflix/streaming video from my computer/NHL games I haven't played a game on it in quite a while, so this sounds good.
Title: Re: No longer finding competitive online fun. Anyone else?
Post by: broodwars on October 27, 2011, 09:51:02 PM
Nice. Even though I use my PS3 every day for Netflix/streaming video from my computer/NHL games I haven't played a game on it in quite a while, so this sounds good.
Well, if you like Sony finally put up a Single-Player demo for Resistance 3 up on PSN this past week. I don't know what part of the game it covers so I can't say if the demo is representative of the game or not, but since it's free there's no harm in trying it out if you're curious.
Title: Re: No longer finding competitive online fun. Anyone else?
Post by: Ceric on October 28, 2011, 04:36:26 PM
Nice. Even though I use my PS3 every day for Netflix/streaming video from my computer/NHL games I haven't played a game on it in quite a while, so this sounds good.
Well, if you like Sony finally put up a Single-Player demo for Resistance 3 up on PSN this past week. I don't know what part of the game it covers so I can't say if the demo is representative of the game or not, but since it's free there's no harm in trying it out if you're curious.
Really, I hope it has 3D mode because I've thought about renting this game to try that all out. That would save me 2 bucks.
Title: Re: No longer finding competitive online fun. Anyone else?
Post by: broodwars on October 28, 2011, 04:52:53 PM
Nice. Even though I use my PS3 every day for Netflix/streaming video from my computer/NHL games I haven't played a game on it in quite a while, so this sounds good.
Well, if you like Sony finally put up a Single-Player demo for Resistance 3 up on PSN this past week. I don't know what part of the game it covers so I can't say if the demo is representative of the game or not, but since it's free there's no harm in trying it out if you're curious.
Really, I hope it has 3D mode because I've thought about renting this game to try that all out. That would save me 2 bucks.
I'm pretty sure there's a 3D display mode, as it's a 1st party Sony PS3 game and all the others did.
Title: Re: No longer finding competitive online fun. Anyone else?
Post by: Ceric on October 28, 2011, 04:57:01 PM
Nice. Even though I use my PS3 every day for Netflix/streaming video from my computer/NHL games I haven't played a game on it in quite a while, so this sounds good.
Well, if you like Sony finally put up a Single-Player demo for Resistance 3 up on PSN this past week. I don't know what part of the game it covers so I can't say if the demo is representative of the game or not, but since it's free there's no harm in trying it out if you're curious.
Really, I hope it has 3D mode because I've thought about renting this game to try that all out. That would save me 2 bucks.
I'm pretty sure there's a 3D display mode, as it's a 1st party Sony PS3 game and all the others did.
I know the Retail supports that and Move I believe.
