Gaming Forums => General Gaming => Topic started by: SixthAngel on August 15, 2011, 02:21:46 AM
Title: Old pc games/nostalgia
Post by: SixthAngel on August 15, 2011, 02:21:46 AM
I was looking through some old stuff I had when I stumbled upon a couple of old pc games. A few were more recent like Homeworld and XIII but I noticed I still had a few games on floppy disks. Now I have no way to actually play these games right now but I can't bring myself to toss them. I'd like to play them again if I could.
The games are Waxworks. (http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/avatars_bucket/Waxworks.jpg)
I loved this game. It came with a little wheel you needed to spin to get the right password to start. It was brutal though. At its heart it is an adventure game where you need to find the right items to get past different problems although there is quite a bit of fighting. The only level I could beat was the graveyard one and that unfortunately is the one you need to beat last because somebody would instakill you if you hadn't beaten the others. There was one in Egypt, Jack the Ripper's London, a Graveyard, and some mine populated with people/plant mutants. This is probably one of the goriest games I have ever played. Getting killed would result in something like a plant monster tearing off your arm and head in gruesome detail.
The other was The Horde (http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/avatars_bucket/TheHorde.jpg)
Yes that is Kirk Cameron on the cover. He did the voice but I can't remember if they had the popular-at-the-time live action stuff. This game was great. You had to build and fortify your town before a horde of red monsters would come and eat everything while you fought them by spinning wildly with your sword. It had some great humor and cool special items that you could find that did things like shoot meteors from the sky.
Go look around your house. Do you have any old games just hanging around that you remember?
Do you have some old pc game that you really liked and would like to find again?
Do you want to talk about an old game game you really liked but don't feel it deserves a new thread? Post it here.
Title: Re: Old pc games/nostalgia
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on August 15, 2011, 02:31:35 AM
Some games I've been thinking about lately: SimAnt, Simtrain, uhh... Monster Bash. Anybody remember that one?
Title: Re: Old pc games/nostalgia
Post by: UncleBob on August 15, 2011, 02:42:47 AM
Funny thread. I went through a stash of old Strategy Guides at a used book store I like to go into and picked up some pretty awesome DooM strategy guides. Dunno why, but they were $2-$5 each.
They had one that I didn't get - it was a strategy guide for some "lost levels" - which were just custom levels that were included on the floppy disk that was supposed to come with the book (but, sadly, was not included in this book).
I don't know why, but I just love these old PC Game Guides. I picked up an awesome Civilization guide here once... Rome on 640K a Day. :D
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Post by: Shredder565 on August 15, 2011, 12:55:15 PM
Lets see if the collective memory of the group is better than mine.
At camp, there was a game on the PC that I think was called 'Faces'....That's all I remember about it, but it stuck with me these last few decades...Curious if anyone remembers something like it? I THINK it was a MAC game..
Title: Re: Old pc games/nostalgia
Post by: SixthAngel on August 16, 2011, 11:21:33 PM
You have to give me a little more than just the word Faces unless it is the Myst like game called F.A.C.E.S. I got from a google search
You have all kinds of old and new videogame stuff Uncle Bob. I don't know where I would be able to put all that stuff.
Signed up for Good Old Games the other day. Amazing! It was breeze and now I can some of the best old pc games ever for about 5 bucks.
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Post by: Morari on August 17, 2011, 10:59:39 PM
Signed up for Good Old Games the other day. Amazing! It was breeze and now I can some of the best old pc games ever for about 5 bucks.
Might I suggest "Arcanum" and "Vampire: The Masquerade - Redemption"? Two of the better RPGs to ever be released. Both presented gloriously through GOG. I still have my old CDs for both, but ended up buying them again just for convenience. Unreal Tournament 2004 is another good steal on there.
Title: Re: Old pc games/nostalgia
Post by: SixthAngel on August 17, 2011, 11:30:04 PM
Might I suggest "Arcanum" and "Vampire: The Masquerade - Redemption"? Two of the better RPGs to ever be released. Both presented gloriously through GOG. I still have my old CDs for both, but ended up buying them again just for convenience. Unreal Tournament 2004 is another good steal on there.
I already picked up Arcanum and Redemption. I signed up to get some birthday gifts and picked those out along with Fallout, and Baldurs gate. I also got the enitre Oddboxx of 4 games on steam for $7.50 because of the sale. (won't open for some retarded reason though. freaking steam)
GOG is great. It absolutely blows Steam out of the water. Signing up took literally 1 minute and buying the the games another. You don't even have to download an external program. The entirely optional downloader is like 2 MB. The place is great. I've downloaded Arcanum but haven't gotten around to playing it yet. I'll probably start it this weekend. There are so many great oldschool games on GOG for about 6 bucks that it is always tempting to pick up something new. It is the perfect website for this thread. I'm thinking I'll go for the Space Quest pack next.
Title: Re: Old pc games/nostalgia
Post by: Morari on August 18, 2011, 11:10:11 AM
I agree, GOG is leagues ahead of Steam. Actually owning a game, instead of having a glorified rental, is always nice. :)
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Post by: S-U-P-E-R on August 18, 2011, 07:30:51 PM
Also does anybody remember Red Baron? That game owns.
I never played Red Baron but its availabe on GOG in a deal with the Incredible Machine. I did play the crap out of the Incredible Machine when I was younger.
The flight games I played were Wing Commander, which I was terrible at, and the Star Wars X-wing game. I can't remember the X wing game very well except that I always picked the Y wing beceause I thought it's weapons were much cooler.
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Post by: Sundoulos on August 18, 2011, 10:35:08 PM
I was decent at Wing Commander, but never felt that I was too great at the Xwing or Tie Fighter franchises. In a similar vein, has anyone ever played Freespace or Freespace 2; I friend of mine from work has been trying to convince me to give it a try.
The last few years have been great because some of my other favorite games were the old adventure games from Sierra. I've loved playing the fan-remakes of King's Quest 1 & 2 and Quest For Glory 2 from AGDInteractive.
Title: Re: Old pc games/nostalgia
Post by: Morari on August 18, 2011, 10:48:53 PM
I agree, GOG is leagues ahead of Steam. Actually owning a game, instead of having a glorified rental, is always nice. :)
Can you redownload the games whenever you want?
Yes. Though the games are also 100% free from DRM, so you can keep the executable on your hard drive or burn it to a disc. No need to ever download it again, really. They're all patched and updated to run on modern systems, and often even come with extras such as soundtracks, wallpapers, screensavers, etc.
Title: Re: Old pc games/nostalgia
Post by: SixthAngel on August 19, 2011, 12:01:14 AM
I didn't know about those remakes Sundoulos. They look awesome and are apparently free.
Anyone looking for updated older games keep an eye on the XLengine (http://www.xlengine.com/). It is basically a whole new engine for the games Daggerfall, Dark Forces, Blood and a few others. I tried to get into Daggerfall, when it was free but just couldn't do it. I'm hoping this can give it a bit of spark.
Also, Dosbox (http://www.dosbox.com)for anybody in this thread who wants to play old Dos games despite having a new computer.
Title: Re: Old pc games/nostalgia
Post by: UncleBob on August 20, 2011, 01:56:51 AM
I was in a Goodwill and someone recently dropped off some older PC titles. I picked up the original Warcraft and Rise of the Triad: Dark War for $3 each. Haven't booted RotT yet, but after some tweaking, Warcraft runs great via DOSBox.
Title: Re: Old pc games/nostalgia
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 20, 2011, 09:41:56 PM
Good Old Games has Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri and Master of Orion 2, and that alone means it's awesome.
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Post by: Ymeegod on August 20, 2011, 10:41:57 PM
Dues Ex with the enhanced textures and sound paks :).
I also kept the orginal's like System Shock, Mechwarrior, Wing Commander, hell I even have a few text based games like Zork laying around.
Poor Zork, nobody recalls these games anymore--damn do I feel old.
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Post by: TJ Spyke on August 20, 2011, 10:47:15 PM
I don't see the appeal of text only games. Maybe part of it is the original Zork came out 7 years before I was born.
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Post by: Morari on August 20, 2011, 10:56:20 PM
I remember playing dozens of different MUDs when I was younger. I'm pretty sure Materia Magicka is still around, even. :)
Title: Re: Old pc games/nostalgia
Post by: SixthAngel on September 06, 2011, 05:27:37 AM
I've been playing this and it's amazing. The interactions with other characters are great. My character is a technologist with a mad scientist background which meant I had fewer points in Beauty among other things. I scarred myself in a fight early on and didn't have enough money to fix it making it even worse. Because of that everyone treated me like ****. I was forced to bow and scrape just to have simple conversations. I nearly chose the option to get pissed and fight them every time but couldn't because they would kill me. Until I could get fixed up and get a better reaction I wanted to slaughter every new person I met in the game. I could still technically do everything if I was willing to constantly let my character debase himself. It is such a great idea and a excellent way make noncombat stats important. It's hard to explain how infuriating yet awesome it was.
Another great interaction was with Magnus. small spoiler You find the necromancers raiding the dwarven tomb and raising the dead. They give a very plausible explanation why what they are doing isn't bad and I could see their perspective. I was going to forgive them but Magnus would have none of that. He wanted vengeance for desecrating the burial ground. He gives this big heartfelt speech about fighting side by side and bleeding together like brothers ultimately giving you the choice to help him fight these mages or turn your back on him and watch him fight alone and most likely die. Its a tough decision and there is no "good/evil" choice like usually gets shoved down your throat nowadays. I fought with him cause Magnus was a bro and I couldn't leave him hanging like that.
I'm still beginning and I've already hit all kinds of great choices.
The magical steam works style is great too. As a gunfighter the beginning of the game was tough because bullets cost money and I couldn't hit the broadside of a barn but it was never frustrating. It just doesn't hold your hand and lets you take quests you clearly aren't ready for if you want. I haven't reached any quests that were obviously way beyond my level, just ones that I would have to delay until a little later. When I headed towards what i was told was an abyssal portal while I was still a low level I knew what I was getting into, of course strange monsters killed me. Getting a Second follower was what finally allowed me to start exploring more without bandits killing me.
A great thing about these old games is that all the bugs have been worked out and more by the company and fans. There is a fan patch that fixes almost all of them and adds in extra things that were on the disk but weren't implemented when the game was rushed out. There is also a high resolution patch that changes it to the resolution of your choice and a patch that replaces the music with the higher quality soundtrack samples. Best of all these fixes don't change the original game at all. I really need to search for this stuff everytime I try to play older games from now on.
Title: Re: Old pc games/nostalgia
Post by: Morari on September 06, 2011, 10:14:55 AM
A great thing about these old games is that all the bugs have been worked out and more by the company and fans.
And that's why we play PC games. Thanks to the community, most games age like fine wine. :)
I just finished Deus Ex: Human Revolution and am thinking about going back through the original with the hi-res patches. Human Revolution was certainly better than Invisible War, but still had enough console-itis to keep it from being great. Regenerating health and jumps to third-person view? No thanks.
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Post by: rozer.ben0 on September 12, 2011, 03:20:24 PM
when my father buy computer for me and my brother in 1999 i install first game it's v-cope it is a java based game it has three stage in every stage we have to kill robber and last we have to kill their boss to complete stage i finish this game in 5 day
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Post by: Ceric on September 15, 2011, 04:56:13 PM
I'm going to throw into this discussion.
Hero Quest: So You Want to Be a Hero? Long live the Antwerp and don't drink the dragon brew.
The Castle of Dr. Brain Great educational game. I loved the whole series.
First Byte Presents: Spell-o-saur Had text to speech in it back in the floppy days. Better then just reading lists for spelling words.
I can't think of its name but you read different clues and fixed grammar etc. the main character was a cap, jacket, gloves, and shoes (Notice no person in there). You fought robots. It was fun.
Its a shame my son may never play these to learn. Oh and also
Privateer. Best Space Flight game EVER.
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 15, 2011, 06:20:13 PM
I'm getting the urge to play either Sim City 2000 or Sim Tower. The one bad thing about Apple totally rewriting the operating system with OS X is that all my old games no longer run natively, but I've got a Classic Mac emulator running 9.1 that lets me play them. I'd gladly buy them on Steam or GoG if they'd release them there, though, as it would be less complicated to play them that way.
Title: Re: Old pc games/nostalgia
Post by: Morari on September 15, 2011, 06:27:29 PM
I shudder to think of just how much time I've spent playing SimCity 2000 and SimTower throughout my life. Those two games are easily among Maxis' greatest. Of course, to really appreciate SimCity 2000, you need to install SimCopter and Streets of SimCity for cross compatibility! ;)
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Post by: UltimatePartyBear on September 15, 2011, 06:43:24 PM
I'm getting the urge to play either Sim City 2000 or Sim Tower. The one bad thing about Apple totally rewriting the operating system with OS X is that all my old games no longer run natively, but I've got a Classic Mac emulator running 9.1 that lets me play them. I'd gladly buy them on Steam or GoG if they'd release them there, though, as it would be less complicated to play them that way.
It's not like the Steam or GoG versions of old games are updated for new operating systems. They'd still require the emulator. Unless you just want someone else to futz with the emulator for you, which Steam at least does in some cases. I think that's up to the publisher, though.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 15, 2011, 06:55:20 PM
Would like to play the Myth games again. One of the few RTS games I could get into, and it was when I actually liked Bungie games.
Title: Re: Old pc games/nostalgia
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 15, 2011, 07:04:55 PM
I'm getting the urge to play either Sim City 2000 or Sim Tower. The one bad thing about Apple totally rewriting the operating system with OS X is that all my old games no longer run natively, but I've got a Classic Mac emulator running 9.1 that lets me play them. I'd gladly buy them on Steam or GoG if they'd release them there, though, as it would be less complicated to play them that way.
It's not like the Steam or GoG versions of old games are updated for new operating systems. They'd still require the emulator. Unless you just want someone else to futz with the emulator for you, which Steam at least does in some cases. I think that's up to the publisher, though.
The games I've bought on GoG run natively on a modern OS (well, Windows, which is close enough :P). Maybe not all of them do, though. I still have to run them through CrossOver, but that's a lot simpler than booting up a full virtual machine in order to play them.
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Post by: UltimatePartyBear on September 15, 2011, 07:25:57 PM
The games I've bought on GoG run natively on a modern OS (well, Windows, which is close enough :P). Maybe not all of them do, though. I still have to run them through CrossOver, but that's a lot simpler than booting up a full virtual machine in order to play them.
Are they on this list (http://www.dosbox.com/wiki/GOG_games_that_use_DOSBox)? If so, then GoG is just futzing with the emulator for you like I said. :) You might even get a performance boost by changing to a Mac build of DOSBox instead of using CrossOver. Otherwise, I'd guess they aren't actually old enough to have compatibility problems, or at least none that CrossOver itself doesn't already deal with, if they're Windows games.
In checking that out, I found out that GoG has the Wing Commander games now! Woohoo!
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 15, 2011, 10:30:06 PM
I've bought two games through GoG. One is on that list (Master of Orion 2), the other is not (Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri). Even if they're emulated, it's still simpler and more straightforward to play them that way than the way I do it now. And the GoG version of MoO2 runs better through CrossOver than my old Mac copy runs through my Mac emulator.
Title: Re: Old pc games/nostalgia
Post by: SixthAngel on September 16, 2011, 07:43:01 AM
Would like to play the Myth games again. One of the few RTS games I could get into, and it was when I actually liked Bungie games.
Still have the cds for Myth 1 and 2. Best RTS games I ever played.
I know Bungie doesn't own the rights anymore (Myth 3 was made by someone else and I ignored it, apparently wisely based on the reviews) so maybe the other company will throw them on GoG sometime.
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Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 16, 2011, 08:19:37 AM
Would like to play the Myth games again. One of the few RTS games I could get into, and it was when I actually liked Bungie games.
Still have the cds for Myth 1 and 2. Best RTS games I ever played.
I know Bungie doesn't own the rights anymore (Myth 3 was made by someone else and I ignored it, apparently wisely based on the reviews) so maybe the other company will throw them on GoG sometime.
What I enjoyed so much about them was that there really wasn't any resource management. your focus was on battle strategy. It was quite unique for the time, and the Total War series kind of carried the torch, though I'd love to see another game in the series by a competent developer.
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Post by: lolmonade on September 17, 2011, 12:34:44 PM
I fail :(
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Post by: SixthAngel on September 18, 2011, 02:00:57 AM
What I enjoyed so much about them was that there really wasn't any resource management. your focus was on battle strategy. It was quite unique for the time, and the Total War series kind of carried the torch, though I'd love to see another game in the series by a competent developer.
That's what I liked as well. I could never get into online Warcraft or Starcraft because setting hot keys and building everything in .2 seconds was the difference between winning and losing. Myth online and the campaign were amazing because it was just battle strategy done right. I've never played Total War but you just got me interested
lolmonade, you've gotta rehost those images. I'm just getting "no linking signs." What are the names of the games? I only know Duke 3d and Number Munchers out of the ones I can see.
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Post by: lolmonade on September 27, 2011, 03:09:07 PM
My old PC gaming included:
At school: Number Crunchers Oregon Trail Where in the USA is Carmen Sandiego?
Amiga: International Karate+ Turrican Defender of the Crown Ducktales game (I can't recall the actual game, but it is the AMIGA game, not the NES game) Populus Marble Madness Bad Dudes Lemmings Robocop North & South Battle Squadron Speedball 2
Parents PC as an early teen: Oregon Trail II Warcraft II Duke Nukem 3D
I also recall this RPG/Adventure game that I played on The Amiga (I think) that had a view akin to Sonic 3D blast (But worked well), that was set up that you played the 3 brothers of one family trying to complete some quest. You played as the oldest brother first, then if you died you used the middle child, and then if you died as the middle brother, you used the youngest one. Each one had their own individual strengths and weaknesses, and combat was done in-game like a zelda game, except you could obtain weapons of varying usefullness (I think). I would love to find out what this game was and find out if my fond memories match the actual fun of the game (probably not)
All this tells me is that I need to locate a good amiga emulator :(
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 27, 2011, 08:03:04 PM
I found this great piece of software called Boxer. It's basically a really well-designed and polished frontend for DOSBox that automates a lot of the command line stuff and creates a centralized library for all your games. I know Morari's going to jump on this comment, but it's like if Apple designed DOSBox.
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Post by: Fatty The Hutt on September 28, 2011, 04:44:13 PM
Wow, just read this whole thread and, wow, gotta try GOG and Dosbox or whatever. Maybe I can get stuff to work? I've had bad luck in the past tho cuz I am not super computer savvy. But I've got nothing to oose (ok, maybe some time and $6 or so)
Anyway, me and computer games go way back. Stuff I really liked on computers dating back to the good ol C64 include; Archon and Archon 2: Adept The Bard's Tale Star Wars games like Rebel Assault and X-Wing and Tie Fighter and X-Wing vs Tie Fighter (first time I ever played a game online, it was against a friend, modem to modem) Ghostbusters Castle Wolfenstein Hitchhikers Guide Monty Python and the Holy Grail Wing Commander IV Suspended Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis Loderunner Deadline
I bought a Wing Commander set that included WC2 and 3 and Privateer but I could never get it to run on my "modern" PC. Same for System Shock. I really wanted to play Privateer
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Post by: UltimatePartyBear on September 28, 2011, 05:04:49 PM
There's a fan made remake of Privateer that ought to work on your modern PC.
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Post by: Ceric on September 30, 2011, 04:46:28 PM
If you play Privateer do so with a Joystick. In fact, that is true for all the Wing Commander games.
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Post by: lolmonade on October 12, 2011, 09:37:29 PM
I found this great piece of software called Boxer. It's basically a really well-designed and polished frontend for DOSBox that automates a lot of the command line stuff and creates a centralized library for all your games. I know Morari's going to jump on this comment, but it's like if Apple designed DOSBox.
Is DOSBox mac compatible only? I looked on their website and it only showed downloads for macs.
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 12, 2011, 09:58:45 PM
The specific program I mentioned, Boxer, is Mac-only. Regular DOSBox is definitely not.
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Post by: SixthAngel on January 02, 2012, 05:29:06 AM
Bumping this thread because I got some older games over the holidays (Sanitarium and Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines) and I am now encountering something I never have before: Patch wars.
There is an unofficial patch and true patch for Bloodlines and both people claim their patch is the one that only fixes bugs. From what I can see the unofficial patch seems to add/mod things which is why the true patch was made to begin with. I don't like to play games modded the first time (unless it's a BethSoft game and I get to put in every mod at my discretion) so I think I'll be giving the truepatch a shot. Does anyone have any insight into the situation?
Did anybody else get some classic games over the holidays?
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Post by: Morari on January 02, 2012, 11:45:56 AM
The Unofficial Patch has made a lot of headway since I last played Bloodlines. It was pretty much mandatory by the time I made it to my third or fourth play through. The True Patch didn't exist at the time, nor was the Unofficial Patch adding in so many community made things.
While it's nice that the Unofficial Patch re-enables features found in the code that Troika never finished, it also aims to merge many fan-made mods. Almost all of them are great mods, but some bugs may be introduced with that goal. On the other hand, you're not really going to be missing out on anything by using the True Patch, as Bloodlines is a great game in its own right. It is in fact the game that others should have been striving to be ever since. Aside from a sloppy ending, obviously thrown together to get the game out the door before Troika went under.
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Post by: broodwars on January 02, 2012, 01:29:10 PM
As far as old PC games go, there's one game I never finished that I hope to be able to on my new laptop: Mechwarrior 3. That's right, Mechwarrior 3, not Mechwarrior 2. It was the first Mechwarrior game I ever played, and I've probably played the first half of that game at least a dozen times over the years. Heh, and playing it always gets me in the mood to rewatch Gundam 8th MS Team. :D
I just loved the customization you had over your mech, the way your scavenged for parts, the way you could walk in one direction and shoot in another (so long as the target was within your firing arc), and even simple things like how you could command & protect a team of supply trucks to resupply/repair your mech. Then there was the Alpha Strike, the one-press "**** You" button where you unleashed all your weapons at once. Ah...memories.
Sadly, Mechwarrior 3 was the last MW game I could stand to play in 1st person cockpit mode, as Mechwarrior 4 (while still a fun game) removed the ability to aim your weapons and move independently. And unfortunately, apparently Mechwarrior 3 was not compatible with my 2005 laptop's graphics card. I'm hoping to have better success with my new 2011 laptop, because I do really want to finish that game.
Speaking of old PC games, though, did anyone else play Alien Legacy back in the day? It's a neat little Sim City-meets-Battlestar Galactica game I found in a garage sale about 12 or so years ago. It won't play on any modern computer these days because it comes on floppy discs, but I enjoyed it back in High School (I even managed to beat it, which is something of an accomplishment because it's a fairly hard game).
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Post by: Ernesto1 on January 04, 2012, 01:17:56 PM
I know some best PC games which were amazing Commandos 1,2 Swat 2 Super Mario Snow Bros
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Post by: Roman on January 11, 2012, 01:06:46 PM
I will share the best old games like Super Mario Metal Slug Snow Bros Tekken 3 Street fighter 2
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Post by: S-U-P-E-R on January 30, 2012, 10:52:48 PM
