Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: Shaymin on July 28, 2011, 10:09:55 PM
Title: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: Shaymin on July 28, 2011, 10:09:55 PM
So we know we've got the following so far:
NES - Super Mario Bros, The Legend of Zelda, Balloon Fight, Donkey Kong Jr, Ice Climber GBA - Yoshi's Island, Mario vs. Donkey Kong, Mario Kart Super Circuit, Wario Ware Mega Microgame$, Metroid Fusion
NES
So we've got 2 games that were in the Classic NES series, 2 that were e-reader games and one that was both (Ice Climber). Based on that, and assuming that the only games that they'd have permission to put out gratis is 1st party stuff.
I'm going to open the bidding at: Metroid, Zelda II, Clu Clu Land, Golf and Ice Hockey.
Metroid will be there to dull the pain of no Metroid Zero Mission, and hey, it's the 25th anniversary of Zelda right? If they're not going to plop out another collector's disc, might as well give the loyal fans another cheap thrill. Ice Hockey will be the obligatory proof that they're not just porting stuff that's also been ported to the GBA. Clu Clu Land and Golf are probably the simplest games that don't already have an equivalent game on the eShop already (Excitebike 3D Classic, and Dr Mario will be out on the eShop in all territories by September 1).
GBA List of possible games (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_products_published_by_Nintendo#Game_Boy_Advance) This is the trickier one to predict. There MAY be another Mario Advance game or Mario and Luigi, but I can't see it happening between Mario vs DK, Mario Kart and Yoshi's Island. It may be a little too much Mario for anyone to handle.
I think they may take the opportunity to float a couple of franchises that have been previously moribund, so we're probably going to get two of an F-Zero game, an Advance Wars game or a Fire Emblem game. They have lots of Kirby to play with, a potential Game and Watch Gallery (#4), a couple of remakes of Donkey Kong Country, and quirky stuff like Drill Dozer. The longshots are anything Square-developed (Nintendo is the publisher of record for all of Square's GBA output, but later, rarer stuff like FFVI Advance is NA/Europe only) and any Pokemon game that isn't a spinoff.
My predictions: F-Zero Maximum Velocity, Advance Wars, Kirby Nightmare in Dreamland, Pokemon Pinball Ruby/Sapphire, and Drill Dozer
What say you?
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: TJ Spyke on July 28, 2011, 10:28:35 PM
I think your GBA games are good choices, I really hope they don't include Metroid on the NES side though. I would rather them do something else.
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: stevey on July 28, 2011, 10:29:10 PM
Mother 3 (never to go on sale in the main store)
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: TJ Spyke on July 28, 2011, 10:31:52 PM
LOL, that would really piss some people off. I am sure it could help boost 3DS sales among groups like Starmen.net, who would buy a 3DS just for this game.
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 28, 2011, 10:38:11 PM
I hope if and when SUper Mario Advance 4 comes out the ereader bonus levels come with it (and the fact they are releasing other games in the Mario Advance series indicates we may see it). Anyway I am impressed with the program, it is more then many systems get when a price cut occurs.
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 28, 2011, 11:39:38 PM
I want Mario 3 in some form, either as the NES title (not going to happen if they're sticking with games that were on the GBA), or preferably, Super Mario Advance 4. Mario Golf Advance Tour was #1 on my GBA top ten, so I'd absolutely love to see it.
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: Mop it up on July 29, 2011, 01:41:52 AM
I really have no idea what they could be, but I'm hoping for The Legend of Zelda: Minish Cap, Final Fantasy V, and Tales of Phantasia. Only one of these seems likely to happen of course.
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 29, 2011, 02:31:57 AM
I would bet that the GBA games will be limited to first party titles. The good thing about that is there aren't many duds in that group.
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: Mop it up on July 29, 2011, 03:10:44 AM
The games I mentioned were published by Nintendo in North America, but that probably isn't good enough. I own almost all the GBA games that Nintendo studios created, and all the ones I want besides pretty much Zelda: Minish Cap. So I don't think I'll be getting much out of this deal. If they offer a Fire Emblem game then that would be okay too, I've never played a game in the series since it doesn't look like something I'd like, but I still want to try one so getting one for free would be nice.
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: TJ Spyke on July 29, 2011, 03:14:18 AM
Square Enix will probably want to sell Final Fantasy V on the 3DS's Virtual Console one day, so I don't see them agreeing to let it be exclusive to 3DS early adopters. As much as I would like to see some third party games, I do agree that it's almost certain that all 20 games will be from Nintendo owned IP's.
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 29, 2011, 06:02:05 AM
The reason we're getting Virtual Console games is because it costs Nintendo effectively nothing. These games were finished years ago, sold, and made back all their development costs, so all this is costing Nintendo is the bandwidth we use to download them. It would start costing them real money if they had to pay any third party for the rights to their games.
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: Kwolf on July 29, 2011, 08:00:32 AM
I wouldn't mind one of the GBA pokemon games. I haven't played a pokemon game since the original ones. Minish cap would be nice also. Looking over the list of possibilities, makes me really excited to see what the other five might be. I did kinda wonder about some of the titles Mop it up mentioned. Given that Nintendo didn't announce the other titles right now, perhaps they are maybe working on some deal to give away titles that they helped publish. I can hope at least.
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: Shaymin on July 29, 2011, 08:39:44 AM
Don't forget that there's already a Zelda game coming this fall for free (Four Swords on DSiWare).
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: noname2200 on July 29, 2011, 12:46:33 PM
Metroid will be there to dull the pain of no Metroid Zero Mission
Hey, don't say that. We might still get the better GBA game. :(
Anyhow, I don't see any rhyme or reason to the ten games they've promised beyond "Nintendo games," so I have no idea what the other ten might be. I'd be cynical and say they'll be smaller titles, a la Balloon Fight, but they're already giving us some of the heavy-hitters (Mario, Zelda, Kart), so...
And I doubt Zelda II will be included, but I'd be thrilled to be wrong.
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: apdude on July 29, 2011, 01:01:39 PM
Perhaps the original Kid Icarus to tie into the new release?
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: leahsdad on August 04, 2011, 03:09:17 AM
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I'd be cynical and say they'll be smaller titles, a la Balloon Fight, but they're already giving us some of the heavy-hitters (Mario, Zelda, Kart), so...
You know, to be honest, I still have trouble wrapping my head around this too. Just focusing on the GBA games, for sake of argument-- those are HUGE GBA games. Assuming that a good chunk of early adopters are, like me, people who check the eshop every thursday and buy anything good, then man, they are losing a bunch of money. I would have definitely paid for those GBA games when they came up for their turn on the eshop. Hell, I'd pay upwards $8 or $9, for Fusion, maybe $10?
So yeah, I would also be cynical and say they'll be smaller titles. They want to sell at least some of those, don't they? But hey, I can't make heads or tails of this strategy of theirs.
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 04, 2011, 04:30:24 AM
I said this in the Talkback, but my prediction for the final three GBA games is Advance Wars, Minish Cap, M&L Superstar Saga.
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: Ceric on August 04, 2011, 02:15:39 PM
I said this in the Talkback, but my prediction for the final three GBA games is Advance Wars, Minish Cap, M&L Superstar Saga.
Ironically I own all of those but Minish Cap.
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on August 04, 2011, 03:49:23 PM
I for one have only seen one title announced that I would actually pay money for, and that's Mario vs. Donkey Kong, which had disappeared from retail land by the time I got a GBA. I either own or have no interest in the rest, but I'll probably play all of them. I'm hoping for Advance Wars. I have AW2, but I never even saw the first game in a store.
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: Ceric on August 04, 2011, 03:59:32 PM
I for one have only seen one title announced that I would actually pay money for, and that's Mario vs. Donkey Kong, which had disappeared from retail land by the time I got a GBA. I either own or have no interest in the rest, but I'll probably play all of them. I'm hoping for Advance Wars. I have AW2, but I never even saw the first game in a store.
I remember having a hard time getting mine and I got a GBA at launch.
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: leahsdad on August 05, 2011, 05:43:18 PM
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I'm hoping for Advance Wars.
The last levels seemed really hard, and I just couldn't finish them as a result. Maybe it's because I'm stupid strategy-wise. Never have been good at those games. But with a create/restore save state feature? That might be the unfair advantage I need.
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: Pajamas on August 10, 2011, 01:34:55 PM
The last levels seemed really hard, and I just couldn't finish them as a result. Maybe it's because I'm stupid strategy-wise. Never have been good at those games. But with a create/restore save state feature? That might be the unfair advantage I need.
I may be wrong, but I think the GBA games are going to be released without save state functionality.
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: TJ Spyke on August 10, 2011, 03:25:01 PM
No, AFAIK they will be released with all the features the games originally had.
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: rebonack on August 10, 2011, 10:14:14 PM
No, AFAIK they will be released with all the features the games originally had.
NES games will be more like beta versions until they're offered up for sale on the eShop, meaning they'll lack multiplayer, save state, and other features. I believe the same is true of GBA games, except they haven't said whether the features will be added later (since they claim they won't be added to the eShop).
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: TJ Spyke on August 10, 2011, 10:40:33 PM
I know about the enhanced NES versions, but I think the reports have been that the GBA games will be pretty much just the games.
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: AV on August 11, 2011, 07:21:58 AM
I'm probably alone but I want KUNG FU for NES game. Yeah it was a stupid simple game, but it was fun. Ghosts and Goblins would be great too, and Gauntlet and Tecmo Bowl and here is an obscure title I grew up on Chubby Cherub.
for GBA
Castlevania Circle of the moon, dk king of swing, Golden Sun, Astro Boy.
I know i'm crazy and none of those games have a chance but one can dream......
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: Razorkid on August 11, 2011, 07:03:49 PM
I really want Metroid: Zero Mission. Never got to play it, but it's the definitive way to play the first metroid (which I never beat). Other than that the only game that I wish would be in the program but I know will not is Tony Hawks Pro Skater 2 for GBA. That game was amazing!
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: AV on August 11, 2011, 08:36:13 PM
I really want Metroid: Zero Mission. Never got to play it, but it's the definitive way to play the first metroid (which I never beat). Other than that the only game that I wish would be in the program but I know will not is Tony Hawks Pro Skater 2 for GBA. That game was amazing!
I would prefer THPS2 to be remade as a 3d classic
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: oohhboy on August 13, 2011, 03:06:42 AM
I hope they choose something a lot more obscure that could do with he exposure like the Fire Emblem games. Offering the Pokemon games would a real waste. Mother 3 would be insane though.
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: leroypantweather on August 30, 2011, 04:44:40 AM
for what its worth here Japan Nes Free Games
Super Mario Bros. Donkey Kong Jr. Balloon Fight Ice Climber The Legend of Zelda Wrecking Crew NES Open Tournament Golf Yoshi Metroid Zelda II: The Adventure of Link [/size] [/size] [/size]source ninty japan and neogaf and twitter
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: ejamer on August 30, 2011, 08:48:23 AM
... Wrecking Crew NES Open Tournament Golf Yoshi Metroid Zelda II: The Adventure of Link ...
Pretty happy with the second half of the lineup. Not much that I would go out of my way to buy, but all are games that I'll play and enjoy if they are free to download.
The only disappointment is Metroid - not that it's a bad game, but I'm taking this as a sign that we likely won't see the much superior Metroid: Zero Mission among the GBA titles.
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: Shredder565 on August 30, 2011, 09:51:43 AM
So, I bought my first Eshop game around the 15th when my system arrived, and performed an update.. yet the Nintendo serial checker says I'm 'undertermined' am I Screwed? :o)
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: ejamer on August 30, 2011, 10:46:32 AM
Did you read the requirements for being an ambassador? http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/3ds/en_na/3dsambassador.jsp (http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/systems/3ds/en_na/3dsambassador.jsp)
(Italic font added by me for emphasis.) "Nintendo 3DS owners who performed the latest system update or who visited the Nintendo eShop using a wireless broadband Internet connection prior to 11:59 p.m. Eastern time on Aug. 11, 2011, were automatically registered for the program and will receive 20 free downloadable games before the end of the year."
If you only connected on August 15th, then I'm not sure that you qualify. Did Nintendo change the rules or give other ways to become an ambassador? Maybe customer support can help if you have proof of purchase showing you owned the system before the deadline?
Edit: Did see this link for Australia and know Europe has something similar, but don't know if North America is offering the same option. Again, best to contact customer support. http://www.kotaku.com.au/2011/08/didnt-register-for-nintendos-ambassador-program-theres-still-hope/ (http://www.kotaku.com.au/2011/08/didnt-register-for-nintendos-ambassador-program-theres-still-hope/)
Final Edit: Based on this quote that you posted, I'd say you are probably "screwed".
I just got my 3Ds today thanks to the price drop. To be honest, the 3D doesn't do much for me. I always think of it a gimmick..although for games it does look cool....
As for viewing it..I'm fine with it in theater...But for the 3DS, it does make my eyes hurt a tad..
The window for being an ambassador was closed at that point. The deal is only for people who bought before the price drop, and it sounds like you missed the cut by a couple of days.
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: Shredder565 on August 30, 2011, 12:03:14 PM
yeah, but I Thought I read somewhere around that time that it was being extended?
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: TJ Spyke on August 30, 2011, 12:03:56 PM
I didn't see anywhere about it being extended.
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: ejamer on August 30, 2011, 12:12:37 PM
The only extension I've heard about is regarding the registration period being extended into September if you have proof of purchase dated before August 11th (see link I posted above). If you didn't buy your 3DS system in time then you are out of luck; the "extension" is only for people who owned the system but didn't take it online.
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: noname2200 on August 30, 2011, 01:59:10 PM
Edit: I am blind.
Super-psyched to see Zelda II! A bit bummed that Mario 3 isn't included after all, though.
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: TJ Spyke on August 30, 2011, 02:17:59 PM
I don't think it was ever rumored for the NES version, it was the SNES enhanced port that was rumored.
It's plausible we could get those same games since all 10 have been released here on the Wii's Virtual Console.
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: Mop it up on August 31, 2011, 05:43:41 PM
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: oohhboy on September 01, 2011, 12:54:43 AM
Looks like NZ is going to get their stuff a day "Late" by crossing the date line first. :confused; I will report back in the moment something happens down here.
Games are now available with 5 hours to spare.
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: Shredder565 on September 01, 2011, 07:59:37 AM
I guess you can still pay for 'em in the regular E shop?
I'd love Kung Fu to be released. Thankfully, my original NES version still works, but I suck at it today....long out of practice.
Heh, Kung Fu was won at a Seaside Heights 'Double Wheel'. It was all filled with Nintendo Games and the system. Both wheels had to land on the number you put the quarter on to win. IT was the only time it ever happened, and for some reason I choose Kung Fu. Good choice ;o)
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: nickmitch on September 01, 2011, 10:10:11 AM
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 11, 2011, 02:57:48 AM
To be fair, a lot of the difference there is all of the videos that I decided not to waste my time with.
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: UncleBob on September 11, 2011, 01:38:51 PM
Free downloads are free downloads. :D
I agree with the complaint on the DSiWare limit. I'd have more on there if it wasn't for that. :(
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: Mop it up on September 11, 2011, 02:51:59 PM
All those videos are each one selection on the menu? This system really could use folders, it's just going to get even more cluttered as time goes on.
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: UncleBob on September 11, 2011, 03:16:10 PM
I'd be surprised if we see downloadable videos like this again - it seems most of these will probably be distributed via the Nintendo Video app at this point.
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: MegaByte on September 11, 2011, 08:07:03 PM
Unless they have more "certificates."
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: UncleBob on October 01, 2011, 04:48:18 AM
I'd be surprised if we see downloadable videos like this again - it seems most of these will probably be distributed via the Nintendo Video app at this point.
Couldn't have been more incorrect... six more videos up for download. If you want something to pad your menu or activity log, go get 'em!
Title: Re: Speculation on the other 10 free games for the Ambassador Program
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 01, 2011, 05:30:32 AM
I downloaded them because I want to watch them. The fact that they add even more menu icons to my collection is a nice bonus.
