Post by: WindyMan on May 06, 2003, 12:42:41 PM
Entertainment Weekly and the G4 Network recently collaborated on a list of the 100 greatest games of all time. The full list will be available in the May 9 issue of the magazine, but Nintendo jumped the gun to toot its own horn, revealing its own games to make the list. Here is Nintendo's thrilling news release:
Did you know… from Nintendo®
The Legend of Zelda®: A Link to the Past® is ranked the #1 video game of all time on Entertainment Weekly’s “100 Greatest Games of all Time” issue (May 9, 2003) which is on newsstands now.
Not only did Nintendo top the list with Zelda, it had more games on the list than any other video game publisher.
In addition:
- At least one game is represented for each console Nintendo® has released -- Nintendo Entertainment System® (NES), Super NES®, Game Boy®, Nintendo® 64 and Nintendo GameCubeTM.
- Donkey Kong® (#45), the game that revolutionized the video game industry more than 20 years ago, ranked higher than many games released within the past year.
- Other Nintendo games included on the list are: Super Mario 64TM (#8), GoldenEye 007TM (#11), Super Metroid® (#20), Mario Kart 64TM (#30), Pokemon® (#49), Animal CrossingTM (#72), and Wave Race® 64 (#75).
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to The Past was recently released for Game Boy® Advance. The game includes an all-new multiplayer game, The Four Swords. The latest installment in the Zelda series, The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker, launched in March for Nintendo GameCube and has quickly become the top-selling game of the year thus far.
Post by: Ian Sane on May 06, 2003, 01:11:56 PM
It's nice to see Pokemon on the list. Because of it's fad-like nature many people seem to completely forget about the Pokemon RPGs and just assume that they're average games that appeal only to kids.
"At least one game is represented for each console Nintendo has released"
That of course only makes sense if the GBA and the Gameboy are the same thing and the Virtual Boy never existed.
Funny how the N64 is considering Nintendo's big flop yet 4 of Nintendo's listed games are on that console.
Edit: Okay so according to Windy both GTA3 and Vice City are on the list so they're not grouping them by series. Then why the hell is there only ONE Zelda title on the list? Is Nintendo not mentioning all of their listed titles in the press release? Surely Ocarina of Time is on there somewhere. Oh yeah having the GTA games at 3 & 4 is ridiculous. In ten years those titles probably won't be able to crack the top 50.
Post by: Grey Ninja on May 06, 2003, 01:56:03 PM
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Post by: Ian Sane on May 06, 2003, 02:25:43 PM
So anyway Ocarina of Time isn't in the list because A Link to the Past is and Metroid Prime isn't in the list because Super Metroid is. Personally I don't really have a problem with that since they're consistent with the series thing.
Post by: Djunknown on May 06, 2003, 03:00:23 PM
I'll admit GTA 3 and Vice belong on that list but near the top? Get off it, that's bunch of... EW just want to be some trendy little posers.... What's number one, DOAX? Deer Hunter? Its times like these where you want to commit acts of violence against these wannabe gamers....
I admit to not knowing about G4's status and credibilty (I have Direct TV) so I can't really say anything about them but why EW? Dollar signs? They could've chosen somebody else who has some clout.
Post by: joshnickerson on May 06, 2003, 03:13:09 PM
Post by: PaperAceChase on May 06, 2003, 04:17:51 PM
QuoteA South Park quote, have we. Well, it was off by one word, but for good reason. ^_^; Nonetheless, don't bother paying attention to anything put out by magazines that don't actually cover video-games on a regular basis. What they do is not bother with video-games and then, out of the blue, decide to write something about them in order to get attention. And if Nintendo put enough trouble into having a press release about their mention in Entertainment Weekly, it seems EW's marketing scheme worked. They'll do it again next year and they'll get the same reaction. (OK, so my prediction contradicted my suggestion, but it doesn't alter the purpose of my post. Nya.)
Originally posted by: joshnickerson
I've never honestly trusted Entertainment Weekly covering ANY kind of "Entertainment", since their entire mag consists of snotty critics who only like movies about cowboys eating pudding.
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 06, 2003, 04:40:47 PM
I completely agree. With the (crappy, IMO) anime, toys, card game, etc people seem to lose sight of what actually started the whoel thing, the GAMES, which are actually very good and thoroughly engrossing RPG's. Sure, you could say Nintendo's milking the franchise, but you can't discount the quality of the series and it's good that even Entertainment Weekly, whose opinion I don't care about, actually recognized that.
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Post by: Ian Sane on May 07, 2003, 07:20:48 AM
HAHAHAHAHA
Isn't it interesting that if an entertainment magazine made a mistake this blatant about movies (say they said that Star Wars is a precursor to 2001) their credibility would be totally shot. Yet because videogames aren't as well known they remain unaffected. I don't see how anyone could figure that a game released in 1995 came out before any Final Fantasy games when there are TEN FF games and even if they released a title every year and FFX was released yesterday the most recent the series could have started was 1993. Simple math and bare bones research can easily prove that statement wrong.
Post by: MadBob on May 07, 2003, 08:09:56 AM
First, Shigeru Miyamoto introduced his groundbreaking The Legend of Zelda in the summer of 1987.
Square followed suit in December of that same year with its own soon-to-be “legend,” Final Fantasy. The game was a success in Japan, prompting its release in other parts of the world. Finally, by 1990 America received its first taste of Square’s masterpiece. Simply titled, Final Fantasy, the game was an instant hit. Fantasy-based games had long been an important part of the industry; however, most of the previous titles consisted of either text-based adventures or arcade action exploits. Final Fantasy was one of the first video game RPGs. It helped redefine the genre with its world map and characters' abilities to switch weapons. Moreover, the game’s story of prophecies, the fight against a supernatural evil and the four elements (Earth, Wind, Fire, and Water) enthralled gamers.
Do We Need A Recount?
Unfortunately, recounting the Final Fantasy series installments can be confusing, Final Fantasy installments are numbered differently in Japan than in the United States.
For example, Final Fantasy II and III, were not translated and released in North America. Not wanting, however, to make Americans feel left out of the Fantasy loop, SquareSoft opted to cut some Roman numerals on the American versions of subsequent Final Fantasy releases. Thus, they released Japan’s Final Fantasy IV as Final Fantasy II in America. Nintendo and Square then scrapped Final Fantasy V's U.S. release enabling the Japanese Final Fantasy VI to invade the States with another name change––Final Fantasy III.
it could be possible that FF copied Zelda but I consider it highly unlikely due to the short development period available, and unless Squaresoft had early inside information about Zelda it is more reasonable to assume they both spontaneously appeared on the scene at the almost same time.
Post by: Bloodworth on May 07, 2003, 09:03:21 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on May 07, 2003, 09:11:04 AM
Where did all this talk about FF in relation to Zelda come from anyway?
Post by: bonestormer on May 07, 2003, 11:46:14 AM
Personally, my #1 would of been Half-Life (and all that is H-L like Counter Strike), but Zelda is a fine choice of course (my #2).
It's good to see Tetris at #3 and even Doom at #2. Plus it was really nice to see Punch-Out on there even if down at like #53 (why didn't Nintendo list this game in their press release?).
As for GTA. Come on, it's a great game series. I'm sorry if you Nintendo only owners disagree. Maybe #4 is too high, but might of made my top 10, maybe. Still you must remember this list seems to take into account not just what are great games, but games that made an impact on the gaming industy (like Doom and Tetris did). And no game has helped insure PS2's dominace as GTA has.
Post by: Gamefreak on May 08, 2003, 08:45:58 PM
The sad thing is these guys think they are a gaming authority...
Too bad gaming mags still focus on games while movie mags focus on...Making charts comparing the average divorce rates of actresses and the ratio of hotness of their husbands...
I guess there will never be a good entertainment magazine which covers all the entertainment industries well....music, games, movies, TV, books...
