The new system may be more powerful than the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360.
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/rumor/26066
UPDATED: Updated with IGN rumor of a pre-announcement and backwards compatibility.
The next Nintendo console may be revealed at E3 this June, if not sooner.
According to Game Informer, multiple sources state that Nintendo will release a new system in late 2012 capable of running games in high definition. While Game Informer says there are conflicting reports as to if the system will be more powerful than the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360, Kotaku reports that it will indeed be more powerful than those systems. In addition, sources have told IGN that the unannounced console, "is significantly more powerful" than the 360 and PS3 and "that Nintendo's intent is to recapture the hardcore market." Game Informer's sources also mention that Nintendo has already begun showing off the new hardware to third party developers in order to gain their support.
It is not known if the rumored new system will carry the Wii brand, what the online infrastructure may be, or if it will feature motion controls like its predecessors. However, IGN is reporting that the system is "fully" backwards compatible with Wii software. The anonymous sources told Game Informer that the system will not be a gimmick and that Nintendo "did something right."
NWR contacted Nintendo about the rumors, and the response we received was that "Nintendo does not comment on rumors or speculation."
The wait for information may not be long; IGN is reporting Nintendo may have a pre-announcement planned for later this month.
So if they are already showing it we are talking at max 2010 tech.
I'm working on the assumption that a PS4 and XBox720 would blow a Wii 2 out of the water in terms of pure hardware punch. However, I think much more interesting would be whether Nintendo standardizes and future-proofs some of their tech, like adopting the latest programmable shader tech instead of using the way the GameCube did stuff. As much as sheer hardware power, I'm guessing it's the non-universal circa-2001 technical interfaces that the Wii inherited from the GameCube that could also be giving hardcore developers pause when considering what platforms to target.
I would expect atleast twice the performance of the PS360(combined). I wouldn't expect it to graphically blow the PS360 out of the water or anything(diminishing returns), but the game would be to leap frog current HD consoles just enough for long enough to be the lead console in multi-console dev and then force Sony & MS to leap so far over Nintendo's effort that that they will hopefully be too expensive to develop for and instead they get up ports from Wii2 instead for the first few years of their existence.
Then they should be able to launch the Wii2HD @ $299.99 that is roughly on par with PS3 & X360 combined x2
That would mean 1080p @ 60fps without overtaxing the system, and that's with 90% of effects enabled simultaneously.
Should we start the naming pole for the Wii successor?
Despite tradition, I think it's possible Nintendo could launch a new console in the spring or summer, as they just did with 3DS. This would let them devote Christmas 2011 to Zelda, then get out new hardware before the end of the fiscal year (at least in Japan).
I hope they ditch the Wii brand name. If they want to retake the hardcore market it would be wise to drop "Wii" because that name has a bad rep with that crowd. What hardcore gamer who was disappointed with the casual shovelware of the Wii is going to want to buy the Wii 2? Give it a badass name like Hercules, or something. Who wouldn't want to own a "Nintendo Hercules" console?
Wii = Weak
Hercules = Powerful
If this does turn out to be true, I think we'll have our answer on why Skyward Sword was delayed... *cough* GameCube *cough* Twilight Princess *cough*
They can't use the name Nintendo either because that has a bad rep with the "hardcore" crowd. Also yes get rid of the Wii name, who cares about the brand recognition to the 80+ million who bought Wii's.
They can't use the name Nintendo either because that has a bad rep with the "hardcore" crowd. Also yes get rid of the Wii name, who cares about the brand recognition to the 80+ million who bought Wii's.
"Nintendo" is the brand that should be marketed... encompassing the console, the games, and the service.
They can't use the name Nintendo either because that has a bad rep with the "hardcore" crowd. Also yes get rid of the Wii name, who cares about the brand recognition to the 80+ million who bought Wiis.
Then how about catering to both crowds-- just call it the Wii60! :P: : : : :
NEW DETAILS
IGN is reporting that the system is fully backwards compatible and that Nintendo may have a pre-announcement this month.
Crimm -- BnM posted that twice in the time you took it to post it once. Just hire the man already!
Crimm -- BnM posted that twice in the time you took it to post it once. Just hire the man already!
Hopefully, when this system is unveiled Nintendo will prove that it actually has been learning from the many failures of the Wii, and created its next console accordingly. Otherwise, I'll sit this Nintendo console generation out, as I'm not up for yet another 5-6 years of gaming library mediocrity and 3rd party abandonment.
I can see movie trailer like commercials coming out for it.
From the People that Brought You the N64 and Wii
Comes the Ultimate in Video Game Experience
The Nintendo Entertainment System
Coming November 2012
Be N or Be Out
Then how about catering to both crowds-- just call it the Wii60! :P: : : : :
In all seriousness though, I'm almost willing to guarantee the name will be "Wii [something hardcore sounding]". Mark my words, it'll something along the lines of "Wii Nitro", "Wii Nexus", "Wii 3000"... something that will appeal to both casual and hardcore audiences.
NEW DETAILS
IGN is reporting that the system is fully backwards compatible and that Nintendo may have a pre-announcement this month.
ICO? Shadow of Colossus? God of War (I & 2)? Any sports games? Time Splitters? Okami? GTA?
PS2 was the ****. But so was the Xbox. Every system had a game I wanted. Luckily my friends and I had different tastes so I got to play them all.
That being said, they have been slowly moving their technology (and prices) up over the last several years. Coming out with a reasonably powerful system at $300-ish wouldn't be surprising, and it would likely compel Sony and MS to make something even more powerful and potentially disadvantage their pricing.
BigJim StuffBnM Master Plan
They should call it "Revolution" just to **** with everybody.
I presume none of these rumors hold any weight. Some are safe bets and some aren't. Considering how secretive Nintendo is, the idea that this much would get leaked so early is ridiculous. I remember when we were talking about 3DS employing the Tegra II. It almost seemed like a sure thing. How silly.
ICO? Shadow of Colossus? God of War (I & 2)? Any sports games? Time Splitters? Okami? GTA?
PS2 was the ****. But so was the Xbox. Every system had a game I wanted. Luckily my friends and I had different tastes so I got to play them all.
Yeah, I have to second that, and I didn't get a PS2 until a few years ago. Just in terms of quantity and quality of console libraries, the PS2 is a close rival to the SNES (at least in terms of my tastes, which are RPGs and adventure games).
And let's face it, the PS2 didn't get any good sports games, AT ALL, until the Dreamcast died and 2K started putting out games on the PS2. EA Sports is mediocre at everything except a few of their FIFA games.
And let's face it, the PS2 didn't get any good sports games, AT ALL, until the Dreamcast died and 2K started putting out games on the PS2. EA Sports is mediocre at everything except a few of their FIFA games.
I want my next Nintendo console to be a Nintendo console, and not another PS360 hardcore console.
This looks like it's going to be the greatest April Fool's joke of all time. The whole internet is believing it. I'm not. Nothing matches up. The facts are alll too hazy. People are just throwing in whatever they want to see in the system just to hype it up.
This isn't going to happen.
I hate to say this but the PS2 really excelled at Fringe Tastes. There was a game for about anything.
It's the most wonderfull time of the generation! Anticipation for the next! Now how powerful does this thing have to be? Unless some games are tryiing to be photo realistic, will I really be able to see a step up in the praphical output? For Nintendo franchises hell yeah! But everything else? I guess I just can't see graphics getting any better. When I look at some PS360 games I almost feel like im looking at some CGI movie, in the vein of Toy Story or that dumb Final Final Fantasy movie, I would be totally satisfied with that for a good long time even now. I don't what opinions are like on the other ships but are people already asking for prettier games or is everyone more or less satisfied?
Then people would likely call just the "Nintendo" for short (or VGS to seperate it from the NES).
Rumor Consolidation 2011
October 2010:
-Marvell QuadCore processors for new console (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg637155#msg637155) - *This might have had something to do with Kinect, But I don't remember.
-IBM implies that Wii2 uses Cell based PPC (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg638565#msg638565)
November 2010:
-Marvell Quad cores gets a large order: (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg642274#msg642274) From large console manufacturer - *once again might be Kinect related.
-House of the Dead: Overkill 2 in the works (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg642866#msg642866)
-EA reviving NFL Blitz (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg644226#msg644226)
December 2010:
January 2011:
-UltraViolet Media Cloud service coming to a console (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg648998#msg648998)? - Most Likely Sony (if anyone) since Sony is a partner.
-New Pokemon game for Wii (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg649154#msg649154)
February 2011:
-Wii2 announcement coming soon (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg657316#msg657316) according to THQ
March 2011:
-Wii2 announcement coming soon (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg661397#msg661397) according to EA
April 2011:
-Monster Hunter 3DS to be announced soon (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg664597#msg664597)
-SSFIV3D connects to home console (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg665437#msg665437) - Hint @ Wii2 from Capcom and 3DS -> Wii2 connectivity
-Wii price drop to $150 on May 15th (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg666463#msg666463)
-Wii2 announcement @ E3: (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg666740#msg666740) 1080p HD, More powerful than PS360, BC with Wii, release late 2012
-New Wii2 controller has HD screen built in (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg666915#msg666915)
-Wii2 to use Bluray technology (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg666928#msg666928)
-Wii2 actually aimed at early 2012 release (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg666975#msg666975) (1st half 2012)
-Controller Screen is actually a Touch Screen (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg666977#msg666977)
-Project Cafe: Wii2 Controller is a Tablet: (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg667008#msg667008) 6" touch Screen on Controller, front facing camera & doubles as sensor bar for BC
-Dual Analogs, Streaming & Games (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg667026#msg667026) Wii2 controller to rival 3DS, NGP, iPhone & iPad apparently
As for the name, how about capitalizing on the 2012 world-ending prophecies? The nintendo Nostradamus? The Wii Oracle?
Hmm, if I start putting away $10 a week, I should have more than enough by the time this thing comes out. I did the same kind of thing with 3DS.
As for the name, how about capitalizing on the 2012 world-ending prophecies? The nintendo Nostradamus? The Wii Oracle?
(Those are really terrible names, aren't they)
They should call it the "N." Then they can release it in 2012 and say, "the N is near."
Rumor Consolidation 2011
October 2010:
-Marvell QuadCore processors for new console (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg637155#msg637155) - *This might have had something to do with Kinect, But I don't remember.
-IBM implies that Wii2 uses Cell based PPC (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg638565#msg638565)
November 2010:
-Marvell Quad cores gets a large order: (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg642274#msg642274) From large console manufacturer - *once again might be Kinect related.
-House of the Dead: Overkill 2 in the works (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg642866#msg642866)
-EA reviving NFL Blitz (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg644226#msg644226)
December 2010:
January 2011:
-UltraViolet Media Cloud service coming to a console (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg648998#msg648998)? - Most Likely Sony (if anyone) since Sony is a partner.
-New Pokemon game for Wii (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg649154#msg649154)
February 2011:
-Wii2 announcement coming soon (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg657316#msg657316) according to THQ
March 2011:
-Wii2 announcement coming soon (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg661397#msg661397) according to EA
April 2011:
-Monster Hunter 3DS to be announced soon (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg664597#msg664597)
-SSFIV3D connects to home console (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg665437#msg665437) - Hint @ Wii2 from Capcom and 3DS -> Wii2 connectivity
-Wii price drop to $150 on May 15th (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg666463#msg666463)
-Wii2 announcement @ E3: (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg666740#msg666740) 1080p HD, More powerful than PS360, BC with Wii, release late 2012
-New Wii2 controller has HD screen built in (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg666915#msg666915)
-Wii2 to use Bluray technology (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg666928#msg666928)
-Wii2 actually aimed at early 2012 release (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg666975#msg666975) (1st half 2012)
-Controller Screen is actually a Touch Screen (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg666977#msg666977)
-Project Cafe: Wii2 Controller is a Tablet: (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg667008#msg667008) 6" touch Screen on Controller, front facing camera & doubles as sensor bar for BC
-Dual Analogs, Streaming & Games (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg667026#msg667026) Wii2 controller to rival 3DS, NGP, iPhone & iPad apparently
-1st & 3rd Party games @ E3 (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg667069#msg667069) EA, Ubisoft & Capcom all but confirmed
And lastly, a touchscreen is way easier to navigate then conventional menus.
Pull out a stylus? Why not just use your thumb? You know...the big weird looking thing attached to your hand. Seriously, why do you think every touch screen ever made requires a stylus?
Cleaning a screen is easier than fumbling with a stylus, and stylus control is definitely NOT the scheme intended for games like Ocarina of Time 3D.Nor for SSFIV 3DS
No offense, Ian. But your such a stubborn idiot sometimes.
I couldn't even read the rest of your post because your first sentence was so damn idiotic.
Pull out a stylus? Why not just use your thumb? You know...the big weird looking thing attached to your hand. Seriously, why do you think every touch screen ever made requires a stylus?
I really, really just want a normal controller though. So many games have suffered on the Wii because of the shoe-horned motion controls. I don't mind that the option is there, but it shouldn't be used where it doesn't really make sense either.
Rumor Consolidation 2011
October 2010:
-Marvell QuadCore processors for new console (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg637155#msg637155) - *This might have had something to do with Kinect, But I don't remember.
-IBM implies that Wii2 uses Cell based PPC (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg638565#msg638565)
November 2010:
-Marvell Quad cores gets a large order: (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg642274#msg642274) From large console manufacturer - *once again might be Kinect related.
-House of the Dead: Overkill 2 in the works (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg642866#msg642866)
-EA reviving NFL Blitz (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg644226#msg644226)
December 2010:
January 2011:
-UltraViolet Media Cloud service coming to a console (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg648998#msg648998) - Most Likely Sony since Sony is a partner.
-New Pokemon game for Wii (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg649154#msg649154)
February 2011:
-Wii2 announcement coming soon (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg657316#msg657316) according to THQ
March 2011:
-Wii2 announcement coming soon (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg661397#msg661397) according to EA
-AMD working on CPU/GPU combined chip for console due for release @ end of 2012
April 2011:
-Monster Hunter 3DS to be announced soon (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg664597#msg664597)
-SSFIV3D connects to home console (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg665437#msg665437) - Hint @ Wii2 from Capcom and 3DS -> Wii2 connectivity
-Wii price drop to $150 on May 15th (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg666463#msg666463)
-Wii2 announcement @ E3: (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg666740#msg666740) 1080p HD, More powerful than PS360, BC with Wii, release late 2012
-New Wii2 controller has HD screen built in (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg666915#msg666915)
-Wii2 to use Bluray technology (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg666928#msg666928)
-Wii2 actually aimed at early 2012 release (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg666975#msg666975) (1st half 2012)
-Controller Screen is actually a Touch Screen (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg666977#msg666977)
-Project Cafe: Wii2 Controller is a Tablet: (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg667008#msg667008) 6" touch Screen on Controller, front facing camera & doubles as sensor bar for BC
-Dual Analogs, Streaming & Games (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg667026#msg667026) Wii2 controller to rival 3DS, NGP, iPhone & iPad apparently
-1st & 3rd Party games @ E3 (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg667069#msg667069) EA, Ubisoft & Capcom all but confirmed
-Wii2 = TriCore PPC & R700 class GPU w/ 512+MB Ram (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg667113#msg667113) Another surprise to be shown @ E3
-3rd Parties have had Wii2 Dev Kits for Months (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg667129#msg667129), Has better Motion Tracking than Move
-Pikmin 3 moved to Project Cafe (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=16688.msg667251#msg667251) & to be shown @ E3; Nintendo also in talks with R* for solid AAA support.
It makes me think back to the Dreamcast. The memory cards (VMUs) slid into the controllers and doubled as a secondary screen. It was monochrome and usually didn't actually provide much in the way of functionality, but the idea was awesome.
I really, really just want a normal controller though. So many games have suffered on the Wii because of the shoe-horned motion controls. I don't mind that the option is there, but it shouldn't be used where it doesn't really make sense either.
Flash memory is cheap enough nowadays that a cartridge based system could easily be a reality. So long as the save file and any additional DLC is also stored on the cartridge, I wouldn't really have an issue with it.
Flash memory is cheap enough nowadays that a cartridge based system could easily be a reality. So long as the save file and any additional DLC is also stored on the cartridge, I wouldn't really have an issue with it.
I, too, would love the ability to only access my games and write save files a million times before it can NEVER BE USED AGAIN.
I, too, would love the ability to only access my games and write save files a million times before it can NEVER BE USED AGAIN.Uh what? Save files already use flash. And Flash writes are what matter, not reads, so this wouldn't affect the games unless you were replacing games over and over.
No more worrying about friends leaving discs on their sides leaning against a wall and getting scratches.
I'm sure most of us would want these features for the "Super Wii":
- A "standard" controller like the 360/PS3
- A hard drive that the games can be played off of
- HD graphics (at least 720p or so)
- A stable online system akin to Xbox Live or PSN
- Big franchises to come to it
- A "standard" controller like the 360/PS3If you want those, then go buy an XBox 360 or PS3.
- A hard drive that the games can be played off of
- HD graphics (at least 720p or so)
- A stable online system akin to Xbox Live or PSN
- Big franchises to come to it
- A "standard" controller like the 360/PS3If you want those, then go buy an XBox 360 or PS3.
- A hard drive that the games can be played off of
- HD graphics (at least 720p or so)
- A stable online system akin to Xbox Live or PSN
- Big franchises to come to it
The rumors have gone off the deep end at record speed.
A SIX inch touch screen display on the controllers? Really? These are either deliberately planted false trails or made up. I'm disappointed that sites like IGN would even run with them.
I've been thinking about the whole "screen on the controller" aspect of the rumor, and honestly it just doesn't make any sense to me. Why would I want such a feature, especially as a touch screen?
Anyway, assuming some measure of backwards compatibility, we almost already have a standard controller in the Classic Controller Pro. It only lacks thumb stick buttons.Thumb stick buttons? That's the worst idea since Sony's D-pad.
Anyway, assuming some measure of backwards compatibility, we almost already have a standard controller in the Classic Controller Pro. It only lacks thumb stick buttons.Thumb stick buttons? That's the worst idea since Sony's D-pad.
I just think that an analogue stick button is awkward to use. I have trouble pressing it without pressing a direction on the stick or changing the direction I'm holding, and sometimes I accidentally press it when using the stick. It's an unnecessary button, and I can't think of any game which has so many functions that it needs analogue stick buttons (certainly not any good game).Uncharted and Uncharted 2 say hi. :)
Nintendo also in talks with R* for solid AAA support.
They HYPE train is designed to push expectations so high that "crash & burn" is the only truly expected outcome.
In the rare occasion that the HYPE train actually reaches it's destination fully intact, then.... well, lets not even entertain the idea that something like that is even possible.
Forget PS3 level graphics. This thing is going to have Toy Story level graphics. :Dlol