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Title: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: RABicle on January 07, 2011, 02:16:11 AM
So I jsut got myself a windows box thing and every moment with it is pure aggravation. Right now I'm trying to download newer drivers for my graphics card because that is the sort of bullshit you have to concern yourself with running windows. So from the existing driver i click a 'get new drivers' update or something. And this open a webpage in Internet Explorer (why, I set Opera as my default web browser) and after confessing to ATi my specs it took to a webpage with 4 separate downloads that as far as I can tell all do the same ****. I download the first 100meg files but it wants the otehr three as well but I've closed IE so I open IE and want to just visit my history but WHERE DO I DO THAT? Every fucking application in this operating system has it's own unique and bullshit way of setting out it's menus so I'm searching all over the fucking screen . The traditional menubar is nowhere to be seen, on some aborted brother of the tabs bar as some, symbols that could be menus, I don't know. I click around a few of these like safety which lets me delete my history but WHERE IS MY HISTORY?! There is a questionmark menu but I just know that is going to launch a pile of bullshit.

So why do I have to meticulously manage my drivers?
Why can't it just get me new drivers, the right ones, when I need them?
Why aren't my default apps opening by default?
Why doesn't anything have a unified menu layout?
This is the worst **** ever.
I just wanna play Beyond Good and Evil.
I shoulda jsut bought an Xbox.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: RABicle on January 07, 2011, 02:19:07 AM
OMG SO TH DOWNLOAD LAUNCHED AN INSTALLER THAT LAUNCHED AN INSTALLER! WHAT THE FLYING ****?
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 07, 2011, 02:27:27 AM
THAT'S CUZ YOU DIDN'T PAY FOR THE FULL VERSION OF NORTON YET
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: ShyGuy on January 07, 2011, 02:31:51 AM
The UAC on Windows is out of control. I'm glad you can turn it off.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 07, 2011, 02:13:36 PM
You should have asked me before you bought it; I could have told you Windows sucked before you spent money on it.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: Morari on January 07, 2011, 02:25:16 PM
Windows doesn't suck anymore than Mac or Linux. At least, Windows 7 doesn't. It's the users that suck.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 07, 2011, 02:32:04 PM
Windows doesn't suck anymore than Mac or Linux. At least, Windows 7 doesn't. It's the users that suck.

Nuh uh, Macs are 10 billion times better than Winblows.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 07, 2011, 02:33:11 PM
I have had no problems with Windows 7, Windows ME sucked though.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: Morari on January 07, 2011, 05:31:54 PM
Windows doesn't suck anymore than Mac or Linux. At least, Windows 7 doesn't. It's the users that suck.

Nuh uh, Macs are 10 billion times better than Winblows.

Um, yeah. Being locked down in a world of proprietary ideas is just wonderful. The only reason Macs have the illusion of being better is because they control the few sets of hardware available. If Microsoft forbid anyone else from making PCs but them, I'm sure it'd be a lot more stables as well.

If you like being told what you can and cannot do based on Steve Jobs' insane ideas, then go ahead and use Mac. The rest of us will stick to real computers and leave the iToys to you. ;)
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 07, 2011, 05:48:06 PM
You're misinformed if you think anything beside the hardware is locked down.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: Mop it up on January 07, 2011, 06:16:14 PM
Recent Windows sucks. I miss my Windows '98 machine, it was the easiest computer I've ever used.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: Morari on January 07, 2011, 08:55:30 PM
The best thing MS ever did was ditch DOS in favor of NT.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 07, 2011, 10:51:50 PM
Recent Windows sucks. I miss my Windows '98 machine, it was the easiest computer I've ever used.

Windows 7 has given no problems what so ever. best release of Windows in a really really long time.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: BranDonk Kong on January 07, 2011, 11:44:19 PM
I'm no fanboy, but I agree, Windows 7 is pretty great. I never really had any problems with XP or Vista either. People always whine about their old ass programs and hardware not working...it's like crying that your Blu Ray player doesn't accept casettes.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: Mop it up on January 09, 2011, 09:26:19 PM
I haven't yet used a computer with Windows 7 so I can't comment on that, but I don't really like 2000, XP, or especially Vista.

People always whine about their old ass programs and hardware not working...it's like crying that your Blu Ray player doesn't accept casettes.
Not really. In the case of Vista, I'd equate it to if a Blu-ray player couldn't play DVDs. In my experience, a lot of programs designed for Windows XP do not work with Vista, and XP is a generation behind Vista; video cassette is two generations behind Blu-ray. To me, it seems like an attempt to get people to buy new software and hardware that does essentially the same thing as what they already had.

As far as compatibility is concerned, Windows XP actually works fine. I have yet to find a piece of software or hardware I can't get working with XP, and I've even got some games from the late 80's and early 90's that run just fine on it.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 09, 2011, 09:43:15 PM
I remember trying to play RollerCoaster Tycoon in Windows XP. The game worked, but the expansion pack RollerCoaster Tycoon: Corkscrew Follies wasn't compatible.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: KnowsNothing on January 09, 2011, 10:37:08 PM
Are we still arguing about Mac vs PC vs Linux?  They all have their strengths and weaknesses and a mac user CAN be friends with a PC user if they really try.  Honestly the best computing experience I ever had was running Window 7, Snow Leopard, and Ubuntu on the same machine.  There was nothing I couldn't run, and between the three of them there were tons of awesome free programs to do anything I wanted to do.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 09, 2011, 10:48:12 PM
For the record, in case anyone wasn't sure, all my Mac-worship and Windows-bashing in this thread were sarcastically over the top. I prefer OS X, but Windows has gotten to the point where it's not terrible anymore, and is perfectly usable when required.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: RABicle on January 11, 2011, 04:16:40 AM
I've been keeping a loose blog of some of the problems elsewhere as they happen. In summary
ATi Driver installation is a joke
Beyond Good and Evil doesn't support gamepads.
Steam is a fucking joke, wont backup properly, wont restore from backup properly.
Everytime I run a game on steam, it seems to want to install some direct X 9 bullshit.
Half the time my speakers don't work.
It just bluescreened 3 times in a row on me.
Today it woudln't startup initially then it did and installed some drivers for my mouse automatically. Then it crashed
It crashed a few more times until I tried safe mode (which failed me last time) and this time it worked. Uninstalled that driver and my anti virus since it also told me my anti virus wasn't running properly.
Now steam wants to update but it cant because some file cant be overwritten. I should point out it's not always the same file.
Now my graphics card drivers 'control center' wont start. Explorer crashes the moment I try to do anything except empty the recycle bin. and drop box sometimes starts.

Seriously, I am never building my own computer again.

It crashed one second ago trying to update steam.

Wow this seems promising! It's like it realised that it was crashing non stop and it's running some sorta Hard Disk check and it found some corrupted files. Did I put them there? Please work, please. I wanna play Mass Effect.

I shoulda just bught an XBox.

Update: crashed again Just as I was about to submit the error report. Running the memory diagnostics tool. it found nothing the last time I ran it and I continue to have some blue screen memory related issue.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 11, 2011, 04:31:45 AM
So what version of Windows were you running again?

sounds like you have a hardware issue, not software.
I have a previous build in the other room that started crashing all of a sudden (XP machine) and is waiting for some attention. I'm sure some peice of hardware failed me, but I can't be bothered with it right now.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: RABicle on January 11, 2011, 05:41:09 AM
Windows 7 home
Anyway I turned it al off. Swapped one stick of ram intoa  different slot
took out the graphics card
EVERYTHING RUNS FINE!
Update steam
Uninstall my card drivers.
Excited I tear the case back open and shove the graphics card back in.
close the case.
Realise that I never turned the machine off, nor plug the VGA card into teh power.
Hang my head in shame

I've totally fucked it up now haven't I? I just installed a Graphics card while teh machine was running.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: RABicle on January 11, 2011, 05:51:03 AM
I swear I can feel electricity running through me.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: bustin98 on January 11, 2011, 09:16:55 AM
Rab, you've probably given me the best laugh I'll have all day.

Sucks to hear that you might have fried your mobo and/or video card in the process.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: RABicle on January 11, 2011, 10:08:10 AM
Ok. I might not of fucked everything up. I can't actually remember if the machine was off or on when I shoved the VGA in but now common sense is telling me it was off because I probably would've noticed the fans spinning.

However. Now it wont boot. It will boot without the VGA (it's a Radeon HD 6850 btw) but with the VGA it get to the starting windows screen and the animation stalls after 10 seconds or so. And then it sits there.

My mate told me to check for burn marks on the VGA pins and there were none.

I've fucked something up though...

UPDATE! I fixed it. Holy **** what an adventure. It still does one pretty fucked thing though. In between the windows is starting screen and the welcome loading screen it has a quick seizure with random distorted visual noise.

A whole day that could've been spent playing Mass Effect has been lost though, it will be hard to forgive the computer for it's betrayal. Thanks for the encouragement and Windows v Mac discussion guys. I think I will definitely stick to macs for pretty much everything from now on. Hopefully this PC's hexacore will last me a few years.

I *think* all the problems stemmed from two things: My second ram stick being in the third slot and not the second and ATi's incremental driver update being super shitty. We'll never really know.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: Morari on January 11, 2011, 12:14:54 PM
Don't mess with stuff you don't understand?

It sounds like all your problems stem from you customizing your PC, despite not even being able to tell if there's power running to it or not. If you can't properly piece some components together, maybe you should stick with those locked down Macs...

Note: ATI's drivers have always sucked. I haven't owned an ATI card in years because of this. I hear that they've gotten a bit better since AMD took them over though. If anyone could turn them around, it would be AMD.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 11, 2011, 12:19:40 PM
HOY RAB,

I'm going to name my NintenCat, "Dominator".  Do you approve?
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 11, 2011, 01:53:47 PM
My ATi card has been great (HD 5670), and I let Steam handle all the updating since it automatically detected my card and automatically found and installed all the correct drivers.

But your problem was definitely NOT Windows. That seemed to be almost 100% user error on your part.
I assume it was your first PC build and things can be a little confusing at times, especially when things go wrong, but you learn from your mistakes and move forward.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: RABicle on January 11, 2011, 02:40:39 PM
.. Steam did your drivers? Well that sounds good cos I hated their website with three separate driver installation downloads and me all lost. That resolve two o my initial questions at the start of this thread before everything went totally fucked. I still stand by my comments on IE and unified menus. Looking further into the defaults issue, while I had set Opera as default for everything, it would seem there were a handful of obscure runtimes for opening urls that only IE could handle. Like a special retarded command string that Opera didn't want to concern itself with. It wasn't really a big deal, jsut pissed me off.

Also Pro, I dunno if dominator works too well for a cat name in general since they're more like silent assassins but in the case of Nintencats, who will be fluffy and adorable and never grow out of being kittins, Dominator would be a fantastic ironic name. Watch him dominate that yarn!

And finally, ATi drivers really do suck. I can't find anywhere to force my monitor to adopt a 4:3 resolution for order games that only support it. I could do with when I was running windows through my macbook with it's Nvidia drivers. It was cool, I even had edgescrolling for larger than my screen vertical resolutions. I can probably do this through the controls on the front of my monitor but **** that too. When I say I can't anywhere I mean I went to the ATi help thing and it told me what box to tick under what tab, except that I went there and the box ddn't exist.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 11, 2011, 03:28:33 PM
whats your video card?

and steam handled my drivers beautifully.
I've had 2 games that didn't look right after installing, so I had steam update my drivers and everything is all good now. no need to wonder if I'm doing it right or chose the right driver nor the right version of the driver or anything.


Also my ATi card came with a program called Catalyst that also handles the drivers itself just like Steam, but Steam was more straight forward, so I just use that instead.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: Stogi on January 11, 2011, 06:22:49 PM
You should try XP Pro Black edition. It's a pirated version that is completely streamlined and "light" but built in with the programs you actually need (such as codecs) and several links to free programs you may want.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: BranDonk Kong on January 11, 2011, 11:37:10 PM
The bad thing about building your own PC is that you are forced to either buy OS upgrades, or if you pirate them, play the cat and mouse game every so often. With a retail PC (Dell, Gateway, ASUS, etc), it's pretty simple to get the latest version of Windows for free, and not have to use a blacklisted key or anything, since it's technically legit.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: RABicle on January 12, 2011, 09:58:23 AM
It's all happening again! I was playing mass effect adn then went up to get juice from teh fridge, I return to find my computer struggling, already crashed. I tinker with the monitor it powers up again, restarting itself. Opt to start windows normally, some **** comes up during the welcome screen. Try again, explorer crashes right on loading.

It's not checking the file system.

"Windows must now restart because the DCOM service has stopped working" It hinkt hat's what teh screen just said.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: BranDonk Kong on January 12, 2011, 10:02:22 AM
Is your video card nice and tightly installed? Do you use a DVI cable, and if so, is it also nice and secure and free of any shorts? I know on some video cards at least, if there's a short or something in the video cable that can crash the computer, but it wouldn't cause any of your other problems. Is you power supply good enough for everything you have hooked up? Remember that just going by wattage doesn't mean much, you need to check the current on the 12v and 5v rails and make sure they are good enough for your video card, HDDs, DVD-ROMs, etc. It could potentially be defective RAM too. I would bet money that the issue is not simply Windows, but it's an easy scapegoat because it's the operating system.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: ThePerm on January 13, 2011, 03:24:23 PM
also turn off all power saving features
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: vudu on January 14, 2011, 02:03:11 PM
I just bought a refurbished laptop with Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 installed.

I went to Windows Update and found 91 high-priority updates.  Ninety one.

After those installed there was one new high-priority update.  After that one there were 12 more high-priority updates.

Then there were 9 optional updates available--one of which needed to be downloaded and installed by itself.

Then there were 12 brand new high-priority updates available.  Finally, there was one more high-priority update that I needed to install after all that.

I was amazed by the sheer insanity of it all.  Took damn near 2 hours to download and install all of them.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: bustin98 on January 14, 2011, 02:07:16 PM
.NET is a bitch with the updates.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: vudu on January 14, 2011, 02:10:03 PM
After installing a few basic programs I decided to check Windows update again.  There was another frigging high-priority update available.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: leroypantweather on January 14, 2011, 02:15:03 PM
i hate windows so much so so much, that being said windows 7 is pretty alright( my super nerdy hacktastic friends swear by it), still though ubuntu 10.10 for the win for me,
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 14, 2011, 02:15:50 PM
I guess they should have just made a Service Pack 4. That's 127 updates, how many could you actually need?
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 14, 2011, 02:21:21 PM
That is a lot. I think there are like 12 updates a month, so it's weird they had several years worth of updates basically.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: ThePerm on January 15, 2011, 08:31:36 PM
hmm i need to check out new ubuntu
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: oohhboy on January 15, 2011, 11:28:28 PM
Whoa, Windows is *BAD*, but with the gut retching amount of errors it has to be hardware. How long did you take to assemble it? because it sounds like you threw the parts into the box and shook it like a bag of kittens. About your RAM, doesn't that come in pairs therefore slotted in pairs, usually in color matching slots... also home versions suck horse lengths.

I love the streamlined versions of windows. I run an XP64 pro version and only play games on it, so I don't run anti anything on it and don't browse with it either. It's sacrificial, contains no critical info, basically an Xbox without the X.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: ejamer on January 17, 2011, 10:55:23 AM
Two things from this thread that make me laugh:


(1) The OP thinking that everything about Windows sucks, when his posts make it pretty clear that Windows isn't the root of his problems. As someone who has helped with basic tech stuff at work over the years, I've experienced nothing worse than a Mac guy who thinks he knows computers trying to setup and run anything on a PC.  Always ends in disaster, with the guy causing problems adamant that it's not his fault despite the fact that nobody else has issues.  (Sorry man... calling it the way I see it.)


(2) Regarding numerous Windows updates, totally made me think of playing PS3.  Frankly, this is why I don't want home consoles to be more like PCs - it's a pain in the ass to keep everything up to date.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: oohhboy on January 17, 2011, 12:15:06 PM
Don't knock a Mac guy too much. He usually comes from a world where things just work and hassle is down to a minimum. the price you pay for the lack of adversity is a higher price tag and more things become black boxes to the user. So when one of them decides to open one of those black boxes, this thread happened.

Me being a hybrid Mac/PC background, makes me far more flexible, it's like learning a second language and your better for it. Rabicle will eventually get a handle on things assuming no magic smoke is produced and will become a better, more powerful user.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: vudu on January 23, 2011, 01:13:22 PM
I finally got around to installing Office on my "new" laptop.  2 high-priority updates.  Then another 19 more.  Then 21 more after that.  Then finally 6 optional updates.  WTF
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: Stogi on January 23, 2011, 02:02:45 PM
I was thinking about making the switch to Windows 7 from XP because they came out with the ever impressive "Black" version (i.e. the stripped of its bullshit and preloaded with programs you actually need version).

Anybody think 7 isn't worth the switch?
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 23, 2011, 02:06:42 PM
Upgrade. I loved Windows XP, but Windows 7 is so much better.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 23, 2011, 02:13:45 PM
Upgrade. I loved Windows XP, but Windows 7 is so much better.
^ this man speaks the truth.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: nickmitch on January 23, 2011, 02:30:26 PM
Windows 7 realizes the dream that MS tried to sell with Vista.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: Morari on January 23, 2011, 04:31:23 PM
Anybody think 7 isn't worth the switch?

Windows 7 is easily the best product Microsoft has ever put out. Even with XP, it really wasn't worth using until after Service Pack 1. That isn't the case with Win7. Hell, it was rock solid even as a release candidate. Then again, Vista did provide a pretty large amount of feedback and ultimately forced improvement.

To be clear, there is absolutely no reason to still be using XP. Windows 7 blows it away.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: vudu on January 23, 2011, 05:40:52 PM
To be clear, there is absolutely no reason to still be using XP. Windows 7 blows it away.

What if I just don't feel like spending the money to upgrade?
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: Shaymin on January 23, 2011, 05:42:53 PM
What if my computer is 3 years old?
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 23, 2011, 05:47:12 PM
To be clear, there is absolutely no reason to still be using XP. Windows 7 blows it away.

What if I just don't feel like spending the money to upgrade?
Where there is a will, there is a way.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: Stogi on January 23, 2011, 07:24:14 PM
Dell hasn't put out appropriate Windows 7 drivers for my laptop. You think Vista or even XP drivers will work if I do upgrade?
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: Morari on January 23, 2011, 10:04:21 PM
To be clear, there is absolutely no reason to still be using XP. Windows 7 blows it away.

What if I just don't feel like spending the money to upgrade?

System builder licenses can be had for unbelievably cheap prices. Likewise, student discounts are available to most people (students or not).

What if my computer is 3 years old?

Depends on the specs themselves. Chances are it'll run fine, if not better than what you currently have on the machine.

Dell hasn't put out appropriate Windows 7 drivers for my laptop. You think Vista or even XP drivers will work if I do upgrade?

There's a very good chance that your Vista drivers will work. Most are interchangeable. I wouldn't count on XP drivers doing anything for you however. Just be careful, Dell-specific drivers can be just as destructive as they are helpful. Those damn Dell wireless drivers are the bane of the computer world. :P
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: RABicle on January 24, 2011, 01:28:14 AM
After the my last post in this thread 12 days ago I hit the tequila and thought hard about it. After 3 shots and 30 seconds of thought I opened the case and squeezed each RAM stick. One of them squeaked. I tore it out and threw it in the bin. Been problem free since then unless you count bugs in Mass Effect as computer issues.

But now I only have 2GB of RAM :(
Is this what I get for just buying the cheapest/fastest RAM around without regard to brand?

Anybody think 7 isn't worth the switch?

Windows 7 is easily the best product Microsoft has ever put out. Even with XP, it really wasn't worth using until after Service Pack 1. That isn't the case with Win7. Hell, it was rock solid even as a release candidate. Then again, Vista did provide a pretty large amount of feedback and ultimately forced improvement.

To be clear, there is absolutely no reason to still be using XP. Windows 7 blows it away.
Let's be honest though, Win 7 is Vista SP2.

I guess wht a few people have said, that my problems are typical of a Mac users jumping ship and not knowing what was going on, is a fair call. I'm still struggling with some general interface things about windows and wonder why my root C directory is full of like, half a dozen EULA files. What? My 20 years of Macintosh has be hating the lack of unified menu. I guess some people see a unified menu as archaic and restrictive but I'm finding each window inside each program is a new dilemma for me. Some programs have bullshit skins with menus roaming around the side, others have tabs on top that SWAP POSITIONS depending what tab I'm in, all sorts of bullshit.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: oohhboy on January 24, 2011, 01:47:19 AM
There you go, some liquid courage never did anyone any harm.

Well with most computer parts if you buy bottom of barrel price wise, you're just asking for trouble, unless its really is a bargain. You buy a step or two above that. You can buy the "premium" stuff, but a good portion of the time your buying the shiny sticker. The exceptions would be the motherboard and CPU. A good motherboard is a foundation of a good computer. With CPUs you only have two choices. It's bang for buck(AMD) or high end performance for $(Intel). Feel free to mix brands assuming you're no buying on the mega budget as they will be made within spec outside of manufacturing issues.

Edit: Now that your on Windows have fun with the focus stealing attention whore programs and the lack of unified update infrastructure that OSX has. But enjoy your games.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: RABicle on January 24, 2011, 02:27:59 AM
Yeah i got a good Gigabyte motherboard and an AMD with two more cores than I'll ever need (two was not a typo.) Got a Sapphire branded ATi VGA card. I heard they (Sapphire) weren't the best but were perfectly acceptable. The RAM was really some company I've never heard of and when I asked a certain anonymous board what are RAM companies worth buying from it wasn't mentioned in the half dozen or so brands mentioned.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 24, 2011, 02:30:28 AM
So what brand was it?

and was it DD2 or DDR3?
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: RABicle on January 24, 2011, 02:34:29 AM
DDR3. 1600Mhz or something. It was GOOD RAM it just wasn't built very well. )that's no joke about it squeaking when I squeazed it.
I'm not anywhere near my machine right now but I'll try to lookup what I bought. I think it was called Strontium or something.
http://www.austin.net.au/ProductList/ProductDetail/tabid/104/ProductCode/RD316004GKST/Default.aspx
There that was it. God I don't think I paid that much for it, now I want $40 back.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 24, 2011, 03:04:10 AM
So you paid about $120 AUS for a 2x2GB? what does that equal in US dollars?
I only ask because I had gotten 2x4GB chips for about $120 US. Same speed and DDR3.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: RABicle on January 24, 2011, 03:23:03 AM
No I paid $80. That equals $82 in US. Well That's according to the price lsited. i seem to recall it being cheaper due to it being an Xmas clearance when I bought it. Either way now I'm angry.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 24, 2011, 04:08:24 AM
Oh, you said you want $40 back so I thought you paid $40 more since it was cheaper now. But now I see you want $40 back since half your double pack was trash.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: Morari on January 24, 2011, 10:58:07 AM
Let's be honest though, Win 7 is Vista SP2.

I agree that in theory Win7 built directly off of what was learned from Vista. Much of the OS is the same, but too much has been changed at the kernel level for it to merely be a Service Pack. Still, without having had Vista first, I doubt Microsoft would have been able to make Win7 as stable and enjoyable as it is.

I'm just waiting for WINE to get to the point where I can play whatever games I want, run Photoshop will full hardware acceleration, and install all of my video editing software. Once that happens, I may never log out of Linux again... my second partition would have to be expanded though. :P
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: ThePerm on January 25, 2011, 10:39:06 PM
im getting windows 7 pretty soon...my **** just crashed again and i can't take it anymore! I don't even go to porn sites, this **** is just vulverable, even with actual anti-virus software. I turn my computer on and just leave the monitor off, i come back another fake anti-virus has installed itself, i reset, and goddamnit windows wouldnt load up. My xp cds were both scratched, so after hours of trying to re-install it i gave up. When I woke up this morning i realized i could use my dads laptop to burn an ISO and re-install it again...so i did, and it took me all day to get everything the way it should be. Anyways,  my 7 install discs are on their way!
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 31, 2011, 09:55:44 PM
I'm not sure how many of you still use IE, but
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1352271/Microsoft-security-flaw-affects-900m-people-using-Internet-Explorer.html
Quote
Microsoft has issued a 'critical' security alert that affects 900million people using its Internet Explorer web browser.

The computer giant warned of a newly-discovered flaw in Windows that could be exploited by hackers to steal personal details or take over computers.

The glitch is so severe it potentially affects every user of Internet Explorer.

Firefox, Google Chrome and Safari browsers are all unaffected by the threat because, unlike Internet Explorer, they don't support MHTML files, where the problem lies.
Fix: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2501696
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: ThePerm on January 31, 2011, 10:21:23 PM
yeah, no i get that from firefox. If Chrome works, its unaffected. I dont know what was up with my last XP install but i could only use Chrome 2 times before it would crash and not work, and id have to reinstall it.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: TJ Spyke on February 23, 2011, 01:55:10 PM
For those interested, Microsoft has just released Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (they had a public test for it last summer). Most of it is just bundling all 796 bug fixes and security improvements together. The only new features included in the Service Pack are for Windows Server 2008 R2: Dynamic Memory for Hyper-V users and RemoteFX.
Title: Re: Everything about Windows sucks
Post by: ShyGuy on February 23, 2011, 02:05:49 PM
This is new SP1 is dynamic, it will be a much smaller download if you already have updates installed, which is a new twist.