Title: Re: The Mcrib has returned !!!!!!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 08, 2010, 03:13:09 PM
The McRib is such a disappointment as is everything at McDonalds. I don't know why people make a big deal over this sandwich.
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Post by: ThePerm on November 08, 2010, 03:34:20 PM
its like a transcendental experience, if you don't know now...you'll never understand.
That being said as the founder of the test kitchen i can see where your coming from. The deal is I live in the Southwest, so there is an abundance of good Mexican food. Even so, I still enjoy Taco Bell every now and then.
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Post by: Plugabugz on November 08, 2010, 03:42:34 PM
The McRib is such a disappointment as is everything at McDonalds. I don't know why people make a big deal over this sandwich.
Eat Mcdonalds UK food, then go back to the US. Disappointing food will disappoint you even more when you try it here.
Except the Big Tasty.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 08, 2010, 04:22:34 PM
I used to be a fan of McDonalds and they've let me down too many times even when I give them multiple second chances.
Their fries used to be THE best of any fast food chain. not anymore. at best they are hit and miss.... but mostly miss. Their Big Mac used to be good. not so much anymore. I think I cut my tongue on a burger patty.... razor thin. I got my hopes up for the Angus burgers (against my better judgement).... I'm sure you guys have tasted those (my better judgement was right.) Ans then there was the Sweet Tea... OMG was there the sweet tea. It was almost perfect.... then just 3 months after tit's introduction.... it starts tasting like it was stirred it with the spoon from the McCoffee McMochachino or some ****.
I almost came back on the regular for the Sweet Tea and some hit and miss fries... but no, they turned me away again.
Let's just say that Monopoly has become a yearly tradition for me and that would basically be the only time of the year I would even eat McDonalds anymore... not this year though. Monopoly came and went and I didn't have a single thing from McDonalds. Then the other day, I finally break down and try to see what all the fuss was over these McRib's that everyone has once a year or every other(few?) years. Now that I've tried that and the "always been on the menu but never see anyone order" McFish (my McRib actually tasted like a McFish Fillet had been rubbed up against it) I officially have no reason to ever go back to McDonalds. Nothing there is good anymore (even the McNuggets don't taste that good anymore).
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Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 08, 2010, 04:40:06 PM
Honestly no one on this planet should be eating *anything* from McDonalds. That **** is *not* food. Look for the person with the blog that has the 180-day old McDonald's cheeseburger and fries, it's been sitting on her counter for half a year, and has not even begun to grow mold or rot.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 08, 2010, 04:47:36 PM
That's nothing though, you should look up the 12 year old McD's Burger (at the time of the pic). (http://aht.seriouseats.com/archives/2008/09/12-year-old-mcdonalds-hamburger-still-looking-good.html) the pic was taken back in 2008 and the burger was bought back in 1996.
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Post by: Ian Sane on November 08, 2010, 04:49:42 PM
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The McRib is such a disappointment as is everything at McDonalds. I don't know why people make a big deal over this sandwich.
If everything at McDonalds is a disappointment to you then the McRib is very much the Wii Music of food, it just isn't for you. Seriously unless you love McDonalds but think that THIS particular menu item is terrible then what value is your opinion?
I like the McRib but it is ideal for limited time promotion because I can't imagine eating it on a regular basis. It wears out its welcome. It relies a lot on the flavour being a novelty that your tastebuds are not accustomed to.
I am all disappointed because I saw an ad for this on TV and was all excited... but then realized I was watching an American channel. This is a common problem in Canada. You end up watching both American and Canadian channels and have to remember which one you're watching. You sometimes get tripped up, particularly by ads that feature prices, as prices are lower in the US. I had that temporary moment of "OH YEAH" and then realized I was watching NBC. No McRib in Canada. They don't seem to do those promotions at the same time.
While on the topic of McDonalds I will note that the Canadian McDonalds chain offers noticeably different food than the American one. If you don't care for the fries anymore, well I don't either. I go to McDonalds in the States and am shocked by how horrible the fries are. The Canadian fries are fucking awesome. I'm not familiar enough with the American ones to know what they used to taste like the Canadian ones are amazing. We also have a different McChicken. The American McChicken is a shitty value menu item. We have the same thing but call it the Junior Chicken. The McChicken is a different sandwich, in the same price range as the Big Mac and Quarter Pounder. It's the best. I get it all the time. It's not uncommon to encounter people that hate McDonalds and bitch about it whenever it gets brought up but love the fries and the McChicken.
So if you think McDonalds is the suck and are visiting Canada sometime I suggest buying a McChicken meal with a Coke (our Coke is different, too; uses sugar instead of corn syrup).
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Honestly no one on this planet should be eating *anything* from McDonalds. That **** is *not* food.
No one should probably smoke or drink either. A lot of people get on my ass about eating fast food when they order a wine or beer with every meal. I would rather live a shorter life that I truly enjoy then a long life eating healthy food that tastes like ****. :)
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Post by: Mop it up on November 08, 2010, 06:32:24 PM
The McRib scares me since it looks like a rib but doesn't have bones, so it's a whatchamacarcass sandwich.
I avoid McDonald's but not because it's unhealthy, because I think their burgers taste like the black gunk that forms underneath the refrigerator. I still sometimes have other fast food even though it almost always makes me feel sick and sometimes puke.
Title: Re: The Mcrib has returned !!!!!!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 08, 2010, 06:41:27 PM
The McRib is such a disappointment as is everything at McDonalds. I don't know why people make a big deal over this sandwich.
If everything at McDonalds is a disappointment to you then the McRib is very much the Wii Music of food, it just isn't for you. Seriously unless you love McDonalds but think that THIS particular menu item is terrible then what value is your opinion?
Almost sounds like you didn't read my next post....
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I like the McRib but it is ideal for limited time promotion because I can't imagine eating it on a regular basis. It wears out its welcome. It relies a lot on the flavour being a novelty that your tastebuds are not accustomed to.
I am all disappointed because I saw an ad for this on TV and was all excited... but then realized I was watching an American channel. This is a common problem in Canada. You end up watching both American and Canadian channels and have to remember which one you're watching. You sometimes get tripped up, particularly by ads that feature prices, as prices are lower in the US. I had that temporary moment of "OH YEAH" and then realized I was watching NBC. No McRib in Canada. They don't seem to do those promotions at the same time.
While on the topic of McDonalds I will note that the Canadian McDonalds chain offers noticeably different food than the American one. If you don't care for the fries anymore, well I don't either. I go to McDonalds in the States and am shocked by how horrible the fries are. The Canadian fries are fucking awesome. I'm not familiar enough with the American ones to know what they used to taste like the Canadian ones are amazing. We also have a different McChicken. The American McChicken is a shitty value menu item. We have the same thing but call it the Junior Chicken. The McChicken is a different sandwich, in the same price range as the Big Mac and Quarter Pounder. It's the best. I get it all the time. It's not uncommon to encounter people that hate McDonalds and bitch about it whenever it gets brought up but love the fries and the McChicken.
So if you think McDonalds is the suck and are visiting Canada sometime I suggest buying a McChicken meal with a Coke (our Coke is different, too; uses sugar instead of corn syrup).
But that is my problem with McDonalds now, the fact that they have changed EVERYTHING and now nothing is as good as it used to be.
My McRib tasted like it was rubbed up against a McFish Fillet!! I'm pretty sure that's not what it's supposed to taste like, but it did. It did not make me want another one... I almost didn't finish the one I had.
Title: Re: The Mcrib has returned !!!!!!
Post by: Adrock on November 08, 2010, 07:01:58 PM
Their fries used to be THE best of any fast food chain.
Being the best at something that sucks still means they suck. I'm glad McDonald's sheer crappiness has turned you off to eating it. You'll live longer.
Title: Re: The Mcrib has returned !!!!!!
Post by: Ian Sane on November 08, 2010, 07:22:23 PM
I remember as a teenager I really liked pro wrestling. It was however not something that many people respect and it seemed like any time someone found out I liked it, unless they themselves were also a fan, they had to make a point about how it was complete garbage. I felt almost like I was in the closet, afraid to let people who otherwise repected me find out about my "shameful" interest.
Fast food is the new wrestling. I don't watch wrestling anymore which I'm sure my family and friends and co-workers and pretty much everyone who has ever known me is probably pretty thrilled about. But fast food has become the new thing that anyone who doesn't like feels the need to just dump on if it gets brought up. I like fast food a lot. It tastes good and it's cheap. And I'm not fat or in poor health either. But I routinely meet people that look at me like when I'm a heroin addict when they find out I like it. It's become the "forbidden food". So often you hear people making up excuses when they're eating it: "well I was in a hurry so I had to settle for this."
Here's the funny thing. So many people I meet who crap on fast food go to Starbucks EVERY SINGLE DAY. It's the SAME DAMN THING. The only difference is that Starbucks overcharges for everything so that elitists can feel special. They found out how to market fast food to people that scoff at fast food and they found a way to charge higher prices for it too. HA!
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Post by: ThePerm on November 08, 2010, 07:22:33 PM
hmm, BnM sounds like your problem is your going to a bad McDonalds. Shitty Employees don't prepare the food right. I know it is supposed to be food so simple any idiot can make it, but that is not the case. I used to work at Wendy's and I when I took my lunch break it was best to get in line immediately because if I waited any longer I would get a burger made by Paul and not me and it would be too damn salty. I used to eat out a lot when I was in college and I would notice the changes in quality from McDonalds to McDonalds. 2 were decent in the city, but like the other 15 were ****.
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 08, 2010, 07:59:40 PM
I go to fast food places so rarely these days (probably a handful of times a year), but when I do, it's usually Wendy's. They're way better than McDonald's.
Title: Re: The Mcrib has returned !!!!!!
Post by: Khushrenada on November 08, 2010, 08:04:26 PM
Who cares? Wendy's has brought back the Bacon Mushroom Melt. Heaven in a bun form. I was so worried Wendy's wasn't bringing it back anymore. I swear, they didn't offer it last year but no can recall if they did or not. Regardless, it's back and I am scarfing down as many as I can. Yum yum yum.
As for McDonald's, I have to agree completely with almost everything Ian says. The only thing is I'm not a fan of McDonald's fries. I just find them too salty often. For some people, it's not a bad thing but the amount of salt on them can gross me out after half a box.
There was a time where I used to go to McDonald's like 4-5 times a week. Then I discovered Quiznos and that was the end of that. But back to the point at hand. During that time, I went up, down, backwards, and forwards over their menu. I'd had it all. That was about 5 years ago. I've only been back to McDonald's about 12 times since then. I just have no interest in their food except for two things. One is their Bacon N Egg Bagel. The other is the McChicken. The McChicken is the most divine sandwich creation. The problem is that since I never want anything else there I often don't bother to order it and I'll get a McChicken equivalent from other fast food restaurants I do like. But the times I'm with a group of people and we do end up at McDonalds, it's the McChicken all the way. Sometimes I'll just order 2 buy themselves to satisfy the craving I have for them. The day McDonalds loses the McChicken is the day they are dead to me.
Hmmmm. This discussion is giving me an idea for another topic.
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Post by: Dasmos on November 08, 2010, 08:28:52 PM
In Australia "Wendy's" sells icecream not hamburgurers.
Title: Re: The Mcrib has returned !!!!!!
Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 08, 2010, 08:33:29 PM
Starbucks and fast food are nothing alike, assuming you're talking about the coffee and not the pastries. Starbucks actually usually some high quality beans, McDonald's uses beef from old dairy cows that can no longer produce milk. Horrible analogy. The beer and wine analogy is horrible too. Beer and wine are both perfectly healthy in moderation (1 drink a day or so), red wine is actually good for you. McDonald's food, even in moderation, is horrible for you. Ian, you might think you're in good health because you're not fat, but when you get diabetes at age 35 and have a heart attack at 40, you'll be telling a different story.
This thread is disgusting. There's no such thing as a "good" McDonalds. Even if the employees prepare the **** to look like it does in the commercials and serve it on golden plates, it's still complete horse ****. I'm not trying to get everyone to go buy some Kashi crap or anything like that, just don't eat this crap, or you will die.
One time someone asked Anthony Bourdain what the most disgusting thing he's ever eaten was. His answer - a Chicken McNugget.
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Post by: King of Twitch on November 08, 2010, 08:35:49 PM
Do they sell them 6 months late for 2x the price
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Post by: ThePerm on November 08, 2010, 09:17:06 PM
any food is perfectly good in moderation. The fact of the matter is you only need to eat every 2 days. The thing that kills people is sedentary lifestyle. I make the analogy that food tastes terrible when there are bad employees, not that its healthier for you when you have better employees. a plain regular mcdonalds hamburger, not extra patties on a bun, with pickles and ketchup and no cheese is 250 calories, 9 g of fat. People not forced to eat a ridiculous super burger with 3 quarter pound patties with mily cheese. I like a nice plain burger, and it seems that such simplicity is overlooked for machismo sake. The mcrib has 500 calories which is double a regular hamburger, but you could eat 4 a day and not go over a 2000 calorie limit. Thats not accounting for vitamins and minerals, but every damn thing has a nutrition label. Read it. Some people would go on a pulpit and criticize people eating hamburgers and then go eat an entire bag of Reese's peanut butter cups not realizing each one is a hamburgers worth of food.
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Post by: Caliban on November 08, 2010, 11:17:12 PM
I'm surprised anyone has to taste McDonald food to see if it's good. I can't even stand the smell of any of their products, not even the fries.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 09, 2010, 12:40:16 AM
The thing is that I've been to many different McD's and that's why I say the fries are hit and miss. And the fries are best when salty and fresh out the oil. But it still has to be done a certain way to be done right. I may have only had the McRib once, but everything else across the many many McD's I've been to have been disappointing ever since they changed stuff to conform to the pressures from that movie Super Size Me - that movie has ruined McDonalds in multiple ways for me.
@Ian - since you seem to think that I'm dissing on McD's just because it apparently the popular thing to do nowadays, I'll just say this; I used to eat at McD's all the time, we practically hung out there when we were younger (4:20 + friends that works there = heaven). Up until about 5-6 years ago, it was always one of the top choices of places to go (McD's, JntB, KFC or TB <- the 4 closest fast food to my house - all next to each other). Now they changed almost everything on their menu for health or PR concerns. NONE of it taste like it used to. They even fucked up the Sweet Tea after only offering it for a few months, and that is at every McD's I've been to over the last year or so(Sweet Tea is more hit & miss than the damn fries).
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Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 09, 2010, 01:03:27 AM
It has nothing to do with calories or anything like that. I myself just took a big chunk out of my daughter's bag of Halloween candy. The point is - what is inside McDonald's food, is absolute garbage. I eat tons of hamburgers, I typically eat 4 or 5 slices of pizza when we order out, I am by no means the beacon of health - I'm just saying that McDonald's food - fat content, calorie count, and carbs aside, is ****. Sure, there is a nutrition label on it, but it doesn't say anywhere on it that the beef comes from dying cows that have been fed corn their whole life, or that beef in general means "cow meat" and doesn't specify any part of said dying cow's body that the beef came from. I wasn't talking about healthy vs unhealthy with the quality of employees either, I was talking pure presentation. The point is, you can polish a turd all you want, but it's still a turd.
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Post by: bustin98 on November 09, 2010, 01:04:21 AM
I thought I was with Brandogg...
Perm, any food is fine in moderation, just depends on what you call 'food'. Just don't eat anything processed or with added sugar, preservatives, or artificial coloring. And say no to corn syrup.
Watch the documentary 'Supersize Me!', and you may have a hard time going back to fast food.
That said, I loved getting the McRib with no onion or pickle and with cheese. I miss it so...
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Post by: TJ Spyke on November 10, 2010, 10:12:54 AM
Honestly no one on this planet should be eating *anything* from McDonalds. That **** is *not* food. Look for the person with the blog that has the 180-day old McDonald's cheeseburger and fries, it's been sitting on her counter for half a year, and has not even begun to grow mold or rot.
She is not doing something right. Take a look at the movie Super Size Me for a better look (the only thing from McDonalds that wasn't moldy or rotten were the fries, after several months they still looked the same as the day he got them).
I am not a fan of McDonalds. In the last 5 years I think the only thing I have eaten from them was the Quarterpounder (and even then it was only because somebody else bought it for me). I prefer Burger King or Wendy's for fast food burgers, although Wendy's tend to be the most expensive of the three.
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Post by: that Baby guy on November 10, 2010, 11:17:22 AM
I hate Super Size Me. It's a terrible movie, a terrible documentary, and makes an example of what's fundamentally the wrong way to tell a true story.
To begin with, Morgan Spurlock sensationalizes his decision to eat McDonald's food as an experiment. It isn't. Any valid experiment follows the scientific process. Any valid experiment can be duplicated. His, I guarantee, can not, because he leaves out much of the truth throughout the movie. Morgan Spurlock is a journalist, not a scientist or a nutritionist of any sort, and the movie shows it.
He starts out on what's nearly a vegan diet, because he eats with his girlfriend, who is a vegan, often. Whether that diet is balanced or not, honestly, we don't know. It wasn't well documented, though it would need to be for us to actually perceive anything Spurlock does as meaningful. I'm not going to claim I'm a nutritionist, either, but I will say that with a little research, you'll find drastic, sudden changes to one's diet can have a severely debilitating effect.
Anyway, moving beyond the basic scientific issues with the film, I have to mention that Spurlock decided to leave out a few nice facts. Most specifically? A major portion of his calories came from milk shakes. Milk shakes are single-handedly the worst menu item at a variety of places. Milk, itself, is unhealthy, contains high volumes of fat and calories. Add in the sugar, and it's a bit worse. Had Spurlock wanted to take an honest approach, he would have at least divulged that he favored milkshakes enough that his nutritionist would site them as being the most debilitating part of his diet. In fact, at least according to wikipedia, his nutritionist said 1/3 of his calories were from soft drinks and shakes.
That's not normal, and clearly that's not healthy. That's also not an aspect of normal McDonald's food, either. Oh, also, he's refused to publish food logs of what he ate during his "experiment." Why, if this thing actual was an experiment, would documentation like that not be released?
Spurlock's goal was to create a piece of sensational media. What you see in the movie isn't based on scientific fact. It's there to elicit a sudden, knee-jerk response. Without the documentation of a food log, it's impossible to duplicate the actions Spurlock took. He's withheld information to elicit a false moral high ground, and people jumped to react to it. Take a look at the movie Super Size Me to see a lot of lies and misleading of the truth.
I'm not saying that a McDonald's diet or a fast-food diet is good for you, I'm not saying it's bad. I'm saying that using Super Size Me as a source for anything is just a poor decision, and I encourage you to invest some time into looking into the facts and realities of the movie, as well as the facts and realities of nutrition in general.
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Post by: TJ Spyke on November 10, 2010, 11:53:18 AM
He was just trying to show what would happen if you ate only at McDonald's for all of your food for 30 days. We already know it's fact that eating a lot of fast food is bad for you, he was just showing how bad it can be. Besides, he never said his results would be the exact same for everyone. It's like alcohol, some people get drunk after 1 drink while others can have like 10 drinks and not act drunk. As for what's the unhealthiest item, it depends on how you want to look at it. The 32 ounce Chocolate Triple Thick Shake has the most calories at 1160. Most sodium belongs to the Angus Steak & Cheese at 2070 milligrams (although the Big Breakfast with Hotcakes Large Biscuit has 2260 milligrams). The McSkillet Burrito with Sausage has the most cholesterol at 410 milligrams.
The movie did help make the McDonald's menu a little healthier (although McDonald's denied it). A few weeks after the movie was released they announced several changes to make healthier options. The point of the movie wasn't even specifically about McDonald's (he picked it because it's the most popular one (83 stores in Manhattan alone, including some that actually deliver), it was about how unhealthy a fast food diet is and how partially to blame fast food places are. For example, the standard order of fries when they started in 1955 are now the size used for Happy Meals.
Besides, my whole point was about what happened when he put various McDonald's food items in containers to see what happened over time. After 10 weeks, all of the food was moldy or decomposed except for the fries. The fries still looked the same, Morgan said he would have kept them to see how long that lasted except one of the interns at his company threw them away along with the sandwiches (because they were starting to smell really bad and they worked in that office).
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Post by: Ian Sane on November 10, 2010, 12:15:07 PM
My brother did the perfect test to see if Super Size Me was full of ****. Back when he still lived at home our parents and I went on vacation for three weeks while he was left at home by himself. He had relied largely on Mom making his meals so he got fast good for lunch and dinner literally EVERY SINGLE DAY. 21 days of eating deep fried fast food twice a day. And he was fine while the Super Size Me guy was acting like it was killing him.
Now my brother wasn't ordering shakes or any kind of dessert and he rarely super-sizes a meal and usually gets Diet Coke as the drink. But still that was his diet for a good period of time and it had no noticable affect on his health. He does exercise regularly so it isn't the same as some couch potato. And I would never recommend following such a diet in the long term but then I would never suggest someone eat nothing but hamburgers or fries no matter how they were made nor would I suggest eating every meal at a restaurant nor would I suggest having the exact same thing for every meal. There is a certain amount of common sense here.
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Post by: TJ Spyke on November 10, 2010, 12:42:06 PM
And he was fine while the Super Size Me guy was acting like it was killing him.
As you even admitted in your post, your brother did a lot of things differently. First, your brother exercised. Morgan wanted to be like the average person (the average person doesn't exercise) plus he limited himself to 5,000 steps a day since that is the average amount people walk. He made sure to have everything on the menu. Morgan made sure to only super size if he was asked by the cashier. If your brother had kept up that diet, it would eventually had very serious effects on him too.
Morgan shows that the problem is bigger than just fast food, he went to a middle school and saw that many of the students were only eating junk food, then he went to a school for troubled students (i.e. those kicked out from other schools) and saw that they were being fed healthier food. Other stuff included adults knowing the Big Mac jingle by heart but not knowing the words to the Pledge of Allegiance.
To try and get back on topic, I have never had a McRib before but I may try one eventually.
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Post by: bustin98 on November 10, 2010, 01:37:19 PM
Another thing about the Super Size Me guy (one more off topic post) is that he rarely if ever ate fast food before the diet change. On the third day he puked as his body acclimated to the higher sugar and fat content. Your brother more than likely was already used to eating that type of food. And he wasn't 'acting' like it was killing him. Doctors taking care of him measured the effects of the diet on his body, and had he continued he would have died of liver failure.
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Post by: that Baby guy on November 10, 2010, 02:08:20 PM
McDonalds claims that the menu was in the works during the film's development. It's conceivable, but by no means provable that the menu was going to change regardless of Spurlock's movie. McDonalds did deny it. It's their word versus yours, essentially. I'm not going to try to determine how long it takes a food item to be conceived, then placed on menus nationwide at a large chain. I will note, though, that my town was a test-market for Hardee's Thickburger sandwiches back before they were all over the place. Those things were probably around at least half a year, if not more, before they were placed on the menu permanently. Don't believe restaurant menus for places like McDonalds are taken lightly and modified on whims.
Additionally, the other items you quote weren't on the menu at the time Super Size Me was filmed. The milkshake was, the rest weren't, at least not nationwide.
As far as fries go, I would imagine this would be the result for a number of salty foods. While I've done absolutely no research, I do know that osmosis takes place, and salt on the outside of the fry would result in the fry drying out much more rapidly than anything else placed in containers, which potentially means most moisture could've left before the fries were enclosed. Of course, Spurlock and his crew didn't do any actual research or testing either, so I suppose I might be as much of an authority on the matter of what happens to fries over a few weeks as he is.
I honestly don't recall that part of the movie, though. I'm really surprised to hear that something enclosed in a container could be smelt. I would think the purpose of the container would be to keep the contents closed, air-tight, to show what happens to them over time. If the food smelled bad, then that means the containers weren't air-tight. If the containers weren't air-tight, given what a few recent things have shown, the food (at least the smaller burgers, and definitely the fries), should not have grown mold or anything, and instead should have stayed well preserved. That's what those foods would typically do, at least according to light research I've read over the hubbub of that woman and her McDonalds "experiment." Did Spurlock or the movie say the conditions under which the food was kept? If he suggested they were sealed, but were later thrown out because of scent, then they weren't sealed. I'm a little confused as to what you're suggesting he's suggesting, regardless.
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Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 10, 2010, 02:18:40 PM
I don't think the point is that if you eat nothing but McDonald's for every meal for a month you'll die, the point is, if you eat it once or twice a week, for your entire life, you will die.
Smelt is a type of fish by the way. Also, the fries are packed full of grease, the salt isn't going to suck that all out. You can do the same experiment if you want, but get the fries unsalted.
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Post by: that Baby guy on November 10, 2010, 02:39:30 PM
If you do anything for your entire life, you'll die. If you... don't do anything for your entire life... you'll die. I'd edit out the "smelt" in my post above, but now I feel obliged to be corrected.
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Post by: ThePerm on November 10, 2010, 02:55:35 PM
above is the message of "the ice harvest", which was a great movie
as for fries...Wendy's has a pretty good drainage system. The fryer(person) is supposed to let the grease drain back into the fryer for like 10 seconds. Then hoist the frys into the fry pan, which itself has a draining system. Added Salt, because salt binds to grease molecules making them not grease molecules. I doubt the changed molecules are any healthier for you.
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Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 10, 2010, 03:32:19 PM
Wendy's fries taste like ****. Even if you get them fresh and add salt, they taste like they've been sitting on the counter for 6 hours and the salt just vanishes.
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Post by: ThePerm on November 10, 2010, 03:57:03 PM
wtf? before they are fried they are just chopped up potatoes. Nothing added to them.
ok lemme explain how they are made.
The fries are kept in a fridge room until a couple hours before they are going to be used. At which time they are just put in a smaller refridgerator close to the fryer. The maximum they are allowed to be kept in this fridge is like 4 hours. The mini fridge is not supposed to be overpacked, because if it is, than the fries start to get soggy, which is bad and will ruin them. When the fries are supposed to be cooked. They are stored in sealed paper bags. So when you go to fry them you pour a quarter of a bag into the fryer. You drop them for 3 minutes and 30 seconds. Once they are pulled out they should be a nice golden color. Let the cage drain for 10-15 seconds. When that is done, you hoist the frys into the fry bin. Proceed to salt evenly. Turn on the timer. IF the frys are still there in 15 minutes throw them in the garbage. Thats the policy, that is how I used to do it. Likely, your getting fries from some shitty noob, who is cutting corners and making Dave Thomas roll in his grave.
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Post by: Ian Sane on November 10, 2010, 04:43:11 PM
The thing is that Super Size Me had a big effect on the public's perception of fast food and if someone is giving you this big ass lecture about how much of an idiot you are for eating it they'll point to that film. But the film is misleading which makes the lecture all the more annoying.
You should not eat nothing but fast food. You should not do no excercise. That's obvious. I didn't need a movie to tell me that. But that's extreme negligence towards one's health. Regular people should not get talked down to every time they go to McDonald's by annoying know-it-alls because of it.
Though I think things are a bit different in the States. You guys have much larger super sizes for example. Our medium is your small and your large is not available in any form here. There is the stereotype that Americans are big fatsos and, well, us Canadians always notice it when we travel there. I go into Carl's Jr. during busy hours and there is always at least one incredibly obese person eating there. That is a rare sighting at home. I see chubby people all the time but a really obese person is a rare sighting. When I go to America it's like a given that I will see such a person. I go into Wal-Mart or Fred Meyer and the place will be crawling with them. Here in BC Wal-Mart is full of very normal looking people of average health.
It feels very much like fast food or snacks like chips and chocolate bars are under attack. It's become a popular political topic to suggest bans or stricter health restrictions or taxes for junk food. I like that stuff. Any normal person likes that stuff. So this anti-junk food idealogy seems very anti-fun to me. But we don't have a culture of obeseity here and there's something going down in the States that makes it different. Just like how most people can drink and not be an alcoholic, most people can eat junk food or fast food and not be an obese person with serious health issues. That's what really bugs me about all this. Regular folks should not be punished or harrassed because some people have serious problems.
I always hear about needing to ban junk food vending machines in the schools. I had vending machines at my school and maybe 1 in 30 kids was fat. So if you're having a problem with childhood obeseity maybe you should look more into it and not assume that the mere presence of junk food is destroying society.
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Post by: Caterkiller on November 10, 2010, 06:28:01 PM
HOLY SMOKES! Are you guys for real!? McDonald's burgers don't age! I bet they could survive the vacuum of space! A super armor that can be used as a super weapon! They could so easily sell a yucky 3 year old patty!
Transcending history and the world! A tale of beef and fries eternally resold!
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Post by: ThePerm on November 10, 2010, 08:10:20 PM
The problem people are having is the patronizing from the know-it-alls.
The problem here, is gluttony and sloth. Its bad being a glutton, and its bad being a sloth, but if your both than thats just disgusting.
μέτρον ἄριστον. Métron áriston. "Moderation is the best thing."
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Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 10, 2010, 08:39:59 PM
You don't need to explain how Wendy's makes their fries, and I know how to make them myself. I'm just saying, every time I've had them, they tasted like ****, at every Wendy's I've ever been too. I know they're just potatoes, but it seems like they just use some kind of shitty oil, and the salt they use always seemed to be granulated much finer than any kind at any other restaurant and for some reason just doesn't enhance the flavor like it's supposed to. Every time I've had to eat Wendy's I always get a thing of ketchup and add salt and pepper to it so I can get some kind of flavor in there.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 10, 2010, 09:59:49 PM
I know they're just potatoes, but it seems like they just use some kind of shitty oil, and the salt they use always seemed to be granulated much finer than any kind at any other restaurant and for some reason just doesn't enhance the flavor like it's supposed to. Every time I've had to eat Wendy's I always get a thing of ketchup and add salt and pepper to it so I can get some kind of flavor in there.
I've noticed that too and that's why I always had to add more and most times use ketchup. If I feel the need to use ketchup on fastfood fries, then someone didn't make them right.
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Post by: TJ Spyke on November 10, 2010, 10:09:52 PM
I honestly don't recall that part of the movie, though. I'm really surprised to hear that something enclosed in a container could be smelt. I would think the purpose of the container would be to keep the contents closed, air-tight, to show what happens to them over time. If the food smelled bad, then that means the containers weren't air-tight. If the containers weren't air-tight, given what a few recent things have shown, the food (at least the smaller burgers, and definitely the fries), should not have grown mold or anything, and instead should have stayed well preserved. That's what those foods would typically do, at least according to light research I've read over the hubbub of that woman and her McDonalds "experiment." Did Spurlock or the movie say the conditions under which the food was kept? If he suggested they were sealed, but were later thrown out because of scent, then they weren't sealed. I'm a little confused as to what you're suggesting he's suggesting, regardless.
It was not in the movie itself, it was one of the extras on the DVD release. I would have to find my copy to get the details. It was more of a side experiment. I don't think think they were sealed, I think he just put them in a glass case and was amused at how everything except the fries were decomposing (the McFish especially looked nasty and disgusting).
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Post by: King of Twitch on November 10, 2010, 10:17:46 PM
I know they're just potatoes, but it seems like they just use some kind of shitty oil, and the salt they use always seemed to be granulated much finer than any kind at any other restaurant and for some reason just doesn't enhance the flavor like it's supposed to. Every time I've had to eat Wendy's I always get a thing of ketchup and add salt and pepper to it so I can get some kind of flavor in there.
I've noticed that too and that's why I always had to add more and most times use ketchup. If I feel the need to use ketchup on fastfood fries, then someone didn't make them right.
Weird, I thought I was the only one. I rarely use ketchup for fast food fries but Wendy's is a must.
Whine and you shall receive:
Wendy's sells new fries with potato skin, sea salt http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101110/ap_on_bi_ge/us_wendy_s_new_fries (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101110/ap_on_bi_ge/us_wendy_s_new_fries)
Calories in the medium size will jump by 10, to (ahem) 420.
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Post by: TJ Spyke on November 10, 2010, 10:27:49 PM
I won't eat french fries (fast food or at home) without ketchup, barbecue sauce, or something else.
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Post by: bustin98 on November 10, 2010, 10:37:35 PM
Wendy's fries dipped in a Frosty is the only way to eat them.
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 10, 2010, 10:40:04 PM
I won't eat french fries (fast food or at home) without ketchup, barbecue sauce, or something else.
I'm the same way, with a couple exceptions.
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Post by: Caliban on November 10, 2010, 11:00:02 PM
I like the french fries from Wendy's. None, to little salt. No Ketchup either. Then again I'm used to eat with little to no salt, or any other processed condiments. I do like Dijon mustard, or regular mustard, whichever I have available. Relish too, but that's extremely rare for me to buy.
On the other hand, my only guilty pleasure in regards to fast food is KFC. Macaroni salad, and the pieces of chicken are my favorite. The french fries suck.
It's actually been months since I've eaten any fast food.
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Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 10, 2010, 11:57:18 PM
Wendy's new fries taste like **** too. I had them them on Halloween (Chic Fil-a was closed and the wife wanted a spicy chicken sandwich), they taste just like the old ones, but every now and then you get some skin on there. Sea salt is a fad that will be gone soon, and it also lacks iodine, which is a necessary mineral. Table salt is processed, and has calcium citrate added (to avoid caking, it's in tons of ground spices), but the processing also removes any impurities. In any case, kosher salt FTW.
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Post by: Caliban on November 11, 2010, 12:28:10 AM
Potato skin ain't gonna kill ya. Never had mini potatoes roasted in an oven? Delightful.
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Post by: Khushrenada on November 11, 2010, 05:54:23 PM
Strange. I like Wendy's fries but other friends of mine hate them also. They say they all taste soggy to them but I like the softness. While I have no problem eating them plain, I love to pour vinegar on them. The Wendy's fry container is the best one to do this for since it is a solid bottom. Pretty much all other restuarants put the fries in a paper bag or container with holes on the bottom and you can't pour vinegar over something like that. Salt and vinegar. Great combo.
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Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 11, 2010, 11:54:23 PM
I have no problem with potato skin, I was just pointing it out. I make roasted red bliss potatoes all the time at work, I made some today actually and ate a bunch of them.
