Gaming Forums => General Gaming => Topic started by: Shaymin on April 29, 2010, 08:47:41 AM
Title: Bungie signs 10 year exclusive publishing agreement with YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING
Post by: Shaymin on April 29, 2010, 08:47:41 AM
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Activision has signed Bungie in a mammoth 10-year publishing deal. The publisher will have worldwide rights to "bring Bungie's next big action game universe to market". "Under the terms of the agreement, Activision will have exclusive, worldwide rights to publish and distribute all future Bungie games based on the new intellectual property on multiple platforms and devices." The press release points out that Bungie "remains an independent company and will continue to make their own intellectual property". Bungie boss Harold Ryan said the studio picked Activision for its "global reach, multi-platform experience and marketing expertise". This suggests that the Halo maker is finally going to develop for formats other than Xbox 360.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/bungie-signs-10-year-activision-deal_5 Key statement: Bungie owns the IP, so this is more of an EA Partners thing. Still... goddamn.
Title: Re: Bungie signs 10 year exclusive publishing agreement with YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING
Post by: TJ Spyke on April 29, 2010, 09:46:08 AM
I am surprised by two things: that they didn't do the deal with Microsoft (which means their games could appear on PlayStation 3 and Wii), and that it's for 10 YEARS. The wording says for new IPs. I take this to mean that they could make new Marathon games and have them be published by Microsoft.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on April 29, 2010, 10:29:11 AM
Looks like Activision now has another studio to push around and rob of their lunch money.
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Post by: UltimatePartyBear on April 29, 2010, 12:14:21 PM
After the success of the Halo series, I bet Bungie has a big enough war chest to stay independent for more than ten years, even if they pull a Duke Nukem Forever.
Title: Re: Bungie signs 10 year exclusive publishing agreement with YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 29, 2010, 12:19:47 PM
Looks like Activision now has another studio to push around and rob of their lunch money.
I don't know. I hope it just means that Activision has first refusal rights on any Bungie property (outside of Halo) and that if Activision passes on it, they can shop it to another Publisher.... otherwise, with all the mess that's going on right now, you think they would wait till the dust settles around the Activsion offices before making a solid agreement unless they have a game that's ready to go (and they had MS lawyers check the fine print, cross the "t"'s and dot the "i"'s).
Title: Re: Bungie signs 10 year exclusive publishing agreement with YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING
Post by: TJ Spyke on April 29, 2010, 12:38:28 PM
I'm not sure what incentive Microsoft would have to help out the competition. This deal means that Activision Blizzard will be publishing Bungie's games, and they can choose to not make Xbox 360 versions.
Title: Re: Bungie signs 10 year exclusive publishing agreement with YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 29, 2010, 12:47:02 PM
But MS still has rights to Halo and a very good relationship with Bungie. They wouldn't be helping out the competition (which is Activision), they would be helping out a friend and business partner and preventing them from getting screwed(over the next 10 years) so that they are still able to focus on Halo games when the time arrives in the future.
completely hypothetical, but I'm sure MS would gladly lend a hand from their lawyers to review the contract as long as Bungie made sure there was always a 360 version of every game published by Activsion from them.
Title: Re: Bungie signs 10 year exclusive publishing agreement with YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 29, 2010, 01:04:51 PM
Ok. on a re-read and reading a full article from a different source, I can clear something up right now.
Activision has a 10 year exclusive publishing agreement for Bungie's next NEW IP (that is singular). That means that if Bungie's next game flops hard, that is it unless Bungie makes a sequel to that IP. the next new IP after that is up for grabs.
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“We chose to partner with Activision on our next IP because of their global reach, multi-platform experience and marketing expertise,” said Harold Ryan, President of Bungie. “From working together over the past nine months on this agreement, it is clear that Activision supports our commitment to giving our fans the best possible gaming experiences.”
So there is no worries over this decision unless Bungie somehow game creative control to Activision so that they can dictate when and how the game and it's sequels are made, which I'm sure they didn't.
Title: Re: Bungie signs 10 year exclusive publishing agreement with YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING
Post by: Ian Sane on April 29, 2010, 01:32:56 PM
With Activision's recent lawsuit with Infinity Ward I'm surprised Bungie would want to be involved with them. I'm guessing Bungie wants to make multiplatform games. Otherwise they might as well stay with MS. There is no point in going with a company like Activision to make Xbox 360 exclusives. Even then, with the X360 being the more popular of the HD consoles, I'd argue it only logically makes sense to go outside of MS to make Wii or DS games. Being able to make PS3 ports seems like it would have minimal value.
Title: Re: Bungie signs 10 year exclusive publishing agreement with YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING
Post by: Chozo Ghost on April 29, 2010, 03:58:58 PM
Would this be kinda like with Rare where they were allowed to make games for the DS even though they were owned by Microsoft?
Title: Re: Bungie signs 10 year exclusive publishing agreement with YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 29, 2010, 04:09:00 PM
Not at all since Bungie owns Bungie. They bought their freedom from their masters a little while back.
So this would be like Activision is exclusive publisher to 1(one) New Bungie IP (and any sequels that it may spawn) for the next 10 years.
Not really that big of deal when you consider that Bungie owns the property, has complete creative control and should the IP fail miserably, then there is no need to worry about the rest of the 10 years on that agreement.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on April 29, 2010, 04:16:40 PM
With Activision's recent lawsuit with Infinity Ward I'm surprised Bungie would want to be involved with them. I'm guessing Bungie wants to make multiplatform games. Otherwise they might as well stay with MS. There is no point in going with a company like Activision to make Xbox 360 exclusives. Even then, with the X360 being the more popular of the HD consoles, I'd argue it only logically makes sense to go outside of MS to make Wii or DS games. Being able to make PS3 ports seems like it would have minimal value.
How do you know that isn't what they had in mind? Activision has published many titles on Nintendo platforms. What makes you think this is just for the PS3?
Title: Re: Bungie signs 10 year exclusive publishing agreement with YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING
Post by: Ian Sane on April 29, 2010, 04:39:13 PM
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How do you know that isn't what they had in mind? Activision has published many titles on Nintendo platforms. What makes you think this is just for the PS3?
A lot of games are made for the PS3 and Xbox 360 and not the Wii. So it would not be unbelievable if the same thing happened here. And I would consider that to be a huge waste. If you're going to leave MS you should reap the full fruits of multiplatform development.
Actually what I figure would happen is Bungie would make the PS360 verison and then some other team would make a Wii port, that's released later.
Title: Re: Bungie signs 10 year exclusive publishing agreement with YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING
Post by: MoronSonOfBoron on April 29, 2010, 05:24:15 PM
*crossing fingers for Pimps At Sea*
Title: Re: Bungie signs 10 year exclusive publishing agreement with YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING
Post by: Shaymin on April 29, 2010, 06:50:05 PM
"You know, the Treyarch Pimps at Sea games just aren't as good."
Title: Re: Bungie signs 10 year exclusive publishing agreement with YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING
Post by: ThePerm on April 30, 2010, 12:02:51 AM
The Reason why Bungie did this was because its a good deal, the reason why Activision did it is damage control. Hey Bungie we have these bonus checks we never sent out for millions of dollars...wanna make games for us?
Title: Re: Bungie signs 10 year exclusive publishing agreement with YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING
Post by: BranDonk Kong on April 30, 2010, 01:38:21 AM
Halo of Duty. Just wait.
Title: Re: Bungie signs 10 year exclusive publishing agreement with YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING
Post by: Chozo Ghost on April 30, 2010, 10:41:58 AM
Call of Halo.
Title: Re: Bungie signs 10 year exclusive publishing agreement with YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 30, 2010, 11:13:04 AM
When is porn gonna get into parody gaming?
Call of Booty
Title: Re: Bungie signs 10 year exclusive publishing agreement with YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING
Post by: Dirk Temporo on April 30, 2010, 01:25:59 PM
I'd argue it only logically makes sense to go outside of MS to make Wii or DS games.
That's a terrible argument and there is literally no way you could ever make that point against anybody with any sort of financial know-how. More sales is more sales dude. It doesn't matter what platform they're on, or how much more platform X sold than platform Y. Platform X was going to sell A anyway, and platform Y just adds B to the sales.
And you're totally ignoring the Wii, dude. Larger installed fanbase than any of the other consoles, and you're talking about one of the single most popular developers in the last ten years. If anybody could whip the third-party games into shape, it's Bungie.
Title: Re: Bungie signs 10 year exclusive publishing agreement with YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING
Post by: Adrock on April 30, 2010, 08:16:36 PM
Activision has a 10 year exclusive publishing agreement for Bungie's next NEW IP (that is singular). That means that if Bungie's next game flops hard, that is it unless Bungie makes a sequel to that IP. the next new IP after that is up for grabs.
So, in other words, people are making a big deal out of nothing. Correct me if I'm wrong, for this to even have happened, Microsoft had to have turned this project down first since they originally had right to first refusal and now Bungie signed a deal with Activision to have right to first refusal. This could turn out of be Too Human all over again......
Title: Re: Bungie signs 10 year exclusive publishing agreement with YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING
Post by: ControlerFleX on April 30, 2010, 08:21:56 PM
And you're totally ignoring the Wii, dude. Larger installed fanbase than any of the other consoles, and you're talking about one of the single most popular developers in the last ten years. If anybody could whip the third-party games into shape, it's Bungie.
Nah....
Nobody can "whip 3rd Party gaming into shape" on the Wii. Only a few Wii owners want's/cares about premier developers for the Wii. Yes yes the shear numbers of 70+ Million world wide should constitute in at least each title selling 700,000 but it just doesn't happen.
Take NSMBW for example, it's sales are super impressive..... they should be crazy stupid insane good!
WE(the folks that enjoy sites like this) would love some Bungie luv on the Wii but it definitely does not = Success.
Title: Re: Bungie signs 10 year exclusive publishing agreement with YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 30, 2010, 08:31:05 PM
And you're totally ignoring the Wii, dude. Larger installed fanbase than any of the other consoles, and you're talking about one of the single most popular developers in the last ten years. If anybody could whip the third-party games into shape, it's Bungie.
Nah....
Nobody can "whip 3rd Party gaming into shape" on the Wii. Only a few Wii owners want's/cares about premier developers for the Wii. Yes yes the shear numbers of 70+ Million world wide should constitute in at least each title selling 700,000 but it just doesn't happen.
Take NSMBW for example, it's sales are super impressive..... they should be crazy stupid insane good!
WE(the folks that enjoy sites like this) would love some Bungie luv on the Wii but it definitely does not = Success.
So selling close to 15 million copies isn't crazy insane good? Rrright.
Title: Re: Bungie signs 10 year exclusive publishing agreement with YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING
Post by: NWR_insanolord on April 30, 2010, 08:56:06 PM
And you're totally ignoring the Wii, dude. Larger installed fanbase than any of the other consoles, and you're talking about one of the single most popular developers in the last ten years. If anybody could whip the third-party games into shape, it's Bungie.
Nah....
Nobody can "whip 3rd Party gaming into shape" on the Wii. Only a few Wii owners want's/cares about premier developers for the Wii. Yes yes the shear numbers of 70+ Million world wide should constitute in at least each title selling 700,000 but it just doesn't happen.
Take NSMBW for example, it's sales are super impressive..... they should be crazy stupid insane good!
WE(the folks that enjoy sites like this) would love some Bungie luv on the Wii but it definitely does not = Success.
So selling close to 15 million copies isn't crazy insane good? Rrright.
Yeah, NSMBWii has already sold more copies than well over 99% of the games that have ever been made, and is still selling very well. I don't understand what more you could expect than that.
Title: Re: Bungie signs 10 year exclusive publishing agreement with YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING
Post by: Adrock on April 30, 2010, 11:00:43 PM
You guys are ridiculous. Did you buy 2? No? Not that impressive. That's what he means.
Title: Re: Bungie signs 10 year exclusive publishing agreement with YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING
Post by: ControlerFleX on May 01, 2010, 03:51:00 AM
You guys are ridiculous. Did you buy 2? No? Not that impressive. That's what he means.
That's funny but not quite what I meant...... insanolord, GoldenPhoenix I know my comment was a bit EXTREME but the point I wanted to make is that even if half of the Nintendo's Wii audience didn't buy the company's single most important IP, what makes you think they give a rats a$$ about Bungie possibly developing a game that'll be ported over and dumed down for the Wii. Didn't mean to insult the Gods.
Title: Re: Bungie signs 10 year exclusive publishing agreement with YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING
Post by: ThePerm on May 01, 2010, 04:28:33 PM
I always thought Bungie Hype was hot air
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Post by: Spinnzilla on May 02, 2010, 01:52:00 AM
Call of Booty: Black C***s (hint: it rhymes with Ops)
Why do you need to censor the word Cops?
Anyway, you can't have a proper black cop movie without Reginald VelJohnson in it, so I hope he is.
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Post by: ThePerm on May 02, 2010, 11:14:45 PM
i agree with Chozo Ghost, but if your going to have Reginald VelJohnson, you should have Jaleel White, he is seriously under-utilized genius, and needs a Travolta-esque career boost.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on May 03, 2010, 11:24:39 AM
I always thought Carl Winslow looked like Doc Louis from the original Punch-out game on the NES. If they ever made a Punch-out movie they would need to have him star in it.
Jaleel White could star as Little Mac.
Title: Re: Bungie signs 10 year exclusive publishing agreement with YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 03, 2010, 12:52:26 PM
I always thought Carl Winslow looked like Doc Louis from the original Punch-out game on the NES. If they ever made a Punch-out movie they would need to have him star in it.
Call of Booty: Black C***s (hint: it rhymes with Ops)
That only rhymes if you're rapping.
It only doesn't rhyme if your white. (and/or can't/don't like rap)
Title: Re: Bungie signs 10 year exclusive publishing agreement with YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING
Post by: Dirk Temporo on May 05, 2010, 02:51:42 PM
I would say that standard poetic formula likely wouldn't regard that as a rhyme, however the long O and the fact that it ends in a hard consonant would probably be enough for it to fly in most circles.
But it would be better off in rap, especially given the words in question. =P
